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Revan Slahka
0n3 World Industries
Crucial.
6
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Posted - 2012.01.10 02:34:00 -
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After many months of running this corporation only allowing friends to buy shares, i now wish to release shares to the public.
5000 shares are already been bought up by those private investors and with 3000 staying in the corp to allow 30% of profit for growth. this leaves the public with 2000 to buy up atm.
About us:
We are mainly a manufacturing corp, building a wide variety of items. we also dabble into station trading and are doing well in that area. We are all composed of close friends.
How it all works out:
we base our shares price on our NAV and use EMMA to calculate it. every day NAV is checked and new share prices for that day are announced. i shouldn't have to say what percentage of our profit is paid out, if you read above, but for those others its 70%. i don't mind buy backs, some time may be needed to gather funds to do it, but the buy back price on shares will always be on the day eve-mail was sent. not day of processing.
the Maximum shares a single person is allowed is 500, you are welcome to discuss politics or cast votes. we may create more shares in the future but right now. i want to see how you guys take this.
Current Share price: 910,023.35 isk
Current NAV: 9,100,233,535.87 isk
Profit Margin: 25.90% (last months)(current month will be calculated at the end of the month)
there will be a mailing list created which the share holders will be supplied with so they can see updated share prices and such or to relay information.
if you guys have any questions or anything else let me know.
:Edit: forgot to mention dividins will be done at end of every month |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
53
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Posted - 2012.01.10 03:29:00 -
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Seems legit |
Brock Nelson
246
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Posted - 2012.01.10 03:32:00 -
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Didn't TMP do it this way? |
Revan Slahka
0n3 World Industries
Crucial.
6
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Posted - 2012.01.10 03:35:00 -
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whos TMP and did what? |
Jethyl Silverscar
Soldiers of Yggdrasil
0
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Posted - 2012.01.13 16:56:00 -
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Are you selling them asap or reserving ?
Atleast I-¦ll reserve 500 |
Levija Saplina
Supremacy Inc.
Not Found.
55
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Posted - 2012.01.13 18:57:00 -
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Would like pledge 20 bil |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
In Vitro.
275
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Posted - 2012.01.13 19:14:00 -
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See, the thing is i'd probably buy into this sort of thing if it wasn't blatantly obvious that the OP is lying. I know how profitable manufacturing can be and 500 shares is play money tbh. It would have been something of a giggle.
The problem that I've got is that when you look at his corp info in-game it lists the number of shares as 10,000. So my question is how many shares actually exist. Because it sure as hell ain't 10,000.
The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/
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El 1974
Bendebeukers
Green Rhino
52
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Posted - 2012.01.13 23:36:00 -
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Ok, so how do you want to arrange this? We just send you money? Or should we reserve shares here? I see no minimum amount, so i'd like to reserve one as a collectors item and to test the waters.
Might want more later if it works out well.
If I interpret your post correctly, you intend to do a share emission. 10.000 shares have been created, of which currently 5.000 are still in the corp and 5.000 shares are held by shareholders.
The NAV is 9B. The value of a share would then be 9b / 5.000 = 1.8M/pc.
You want to emit another 2k shares for 1.8 B (900k/pc). This isk infusion would raise the NAV to 10.8B. The value of shares would then drop to 10.8B/7.000 = ~1.5M/pc.
Or did I misinterpret and is half your NAV made out of the 5.000 shares held by the corp and the other half by other assets? |
Revan Slahka
0n3 World Industries
Crucial.
7
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Posted - 2012.01.14 01:03:00 -
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Lauren Hellfury wrote:See, the thing is i'd probably buy into this sort of thing if it wasn't blatantly obvious that the OP is lying. I know how profitable manufacturing can be and 500 shares is play money tbh. It would have been something of a giggle.
The problem that I've got is that when you look at his corp info in-game it lists the number of shares as 10,000. So my question is how many shares actually exist. Because it sure as hell ain't 10,000.
maybe i didnt state it clearly enough in orginal post 5000 of the shares have already been bought by private investors. originally i only had 1000 shares and only allowe the private investors 20 shares. since then i have gotten more serious in my manufactureing(last month being when i finnaly started to get into it and break 2 billion a month). wich this leaves 2000 shares left for who ever wants them.
yes its true, manufactureing is very profitable, last month have made 2.4 bill. 30% of payed to dividens(only 30% of shares were owned) so i figured id creat more shares up the maxiumum for private investors <=== friends and corp memebers. to 1000 shares max and public investors to 500.
also more shares will be created in the future depending if more people who want to invest show interest. |
Revan Slahka
0n3 World Industries
Crucial.
7
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Posted - 2012.01.14 01:20:00 -
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El 1974 wrote:Ok, so how do you want to arrange this? We just send you money? Or should we reserve shares here? I see no minimum amount, so i'd like to reserve one as a collectors item and to test the waters.
Might want more later if it works out well.
If I interpret your post correctly, you intend to do a share emission. 10.000 shares have been created, of which currently 5.000 are still in the corp and 5,000 shares are held by shareholders.
The NAV is 9.1B. The value of a share would then be 9b / 5,000 = ~1.8M/pc.
You want to emit another 2k shares for 1.8 B (910k/pc). This isk infusion would raise the NAV to 10.9B. The value of shares would then drop to 10.9B/7,000 = ~1.5M/pc.
Or did I misinterpret and is half your NAV made out of the 5,000 shares held by the corp and the other half by other assets?
as to answer you question, i'll just copy and past todays NAV report from emma for you.
14 Dec 11 - 14 Jan 12|14 Nov 11 - 14 Dec 1114 Oct 11 - 14 Nov 11
NAV 5822584992.6316490245082.92 36481933690.96
Wallet Balance 2434355183.3 511289122.62 1555896414.77
0n3 World Industries 2434355183.3 511289122.62 1555896414.77
Wallet Division 1 27246662.7 5747371.85 21895641.76
Corp Share 1750084368.1 394910315.91 1470902186.17
Payout 0 0 0
Savings 0 0 0
Bones cut 155694028.87 0 0
Seniae's Division 269813744.83 0 0
Slipknots manufactureing 231516378.8 110631434.86 63098586.84
Cash in Escrow 0 19217203857.26 28898880299.28
0n3 World Industries 0 19217203857.26 28898880299.28
Wallet Division 1 0 0 0
Corp Share 0 18863202494.31 28488726847.42
Payout 0 0 0
Savings 0 0 0
Bones cut 0 47663194.59 47663194.59
Seniae's Division 0 111869530 111869530
Slipknots manufactureing 0 194468638.36 250620727.27
Assets 2510066945.45 -6038509898.32 -3936868207.38
0n3 World Industries 2510066945.45 -6038509898.32 -3936868207.38
Sell Orders 878162863.88 2800262001.36 9964025184.28
0n3 World Industries 878162863.88 2800262001.36 9964025184.28
the way i planned to do this is first come first serve. please dont sent me the money till i send you and in-game eve-mail. the contents of the eve-mail will have the following contents. current isk price on the date of the reserve, how many you requested, and the the mailing list you can subscribe to, so you can be kept up to date on the NAV, isk price, and for end month the revenue for that month, and dividens. hope this clears some things up a bit. |
Jes Visuit
Private Investment Holdings Inc
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Posted - 2012.01.14 08:17:00 -
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Can you please clarify a couple of things?
1. What is the projected dividend on these shares?
2. How often will dividends be paid?
3. Do you operate in high, low or null sec?
4. The NAV report you posted shows your NAV trending down from 36bil in Nov 11 to 16bil in Dec 11 to currently 6bil. This looks a bit worrying, is there a good explanation for this? |
El 1974
Bendebeukers
Green Rhino
52
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Posted - 2012.01.14 08:55:00 -
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I just got a msg that explains some my questions.
The NAV as calculated by EMMA (I'm not very familiar with that program) apparantly only shows what's in the wallet, plus in escrow and assets. The shares held by the corp are not on the balance sheet.
Since the OP, the shareprice (and NAV) has gone down further. I paid for one share regardless of these disturbing developments. Maybe as a shareholder I can figure out what's going on. I'll try to keep people updated.
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Revan Slahka
0n3 World Industries
Crucial.
7
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Posted - 2012.01.14 17:28:00 -
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Jes Visuit wrote:Can you please clarify a couple of things?
1. What is the projected dividend on these shares?
2. How often will dividends be paid?
3. Do you operate in high, low or null sec?
4. The NAV report you posted shows your NAV trending down from 36bil in Nov 11 to 16bil in Dec 11 to currently 6bil. This looks a bit worrying, is there a good explanation for this?
1. At this current moment the projected income for 1 share is 141,714.35 isk 500 shares 70,857,173.16 isk
2. At the end of every month. when its the finnal week of the month i do one last job and when it all sells then i do dividens. it can be done before the last day, but usualy on the first of the month.
3. i operate in high sec, no crazy enough to operate anywere else.
4. yes but i calculate my NAV from 1 month to the next. the reason you see those drops cuz i took a break mid november, due to market issues due to the new ships being introduced and drone space haveing a reduced amount of minerals coming from that space. wich in turn made minerals go up and the ship prices lagged behind. so only the first set of numbers is what i use.
even tho i took a break for that period of time i made up for it in december by no lifeing the game. didnt hear any complaints after that. i will always be up front and honest to my share holders. |
Revan Slahka
0n3 World Industries
Crucial.
7
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Posted - 2012.01.14 17:44:00 -
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o another reason after doing some digging. emma doesnt calculate whats currently in the POS. guess you cant get that info thru API. so in about a months time it should be were it was in the past. got alot of stuff researching. |
El 1974
Bendebeukers
Green Rhino
52
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Posted - 2012.01.14 18:40:00 -
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I received my share.  |
Jethyl Silverscar
Soldiers of Yggdrasil
0
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Posted - 2012.01.14 20:13:00 -
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Shares recieved |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
In Vitro.
275
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Posted - 2012.01.14 20:27:00 -
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Ok folks that have just tossed some money away. Go to your wallet, open the shares tab and right click on your shiny new shares.
From there select votes and then, on the window that opens, select closed votes and count how many shares have been created. Just total up the numbers for each "Create x shares".
@Revan: You still haven't answered my direct question, although now there are others that are able to do so.
You were perfectly clear in the OP. 5,000 shares are already in the hands of other "investors", 3,000 shares are staying in the corp to fund growth and 2,000 shares are being sold here. What I want to know is what about the rest of the shares? There are at least 1,000 other shares floating around somewhere, possibly more.
The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/
Now showing: What lies beyond? It's time for a holiday! |
Revan Slahka
0n3 World Industries
Crucial.
7
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Posted - 2012.01.14 21:07:00 -
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Lauren Hellfury wrote:Ok folks that have just tossed some money away. Go to your wallet, open the shares tab and right click on your shiny new shares.
From there select votes and then, on the window that opens, select closed votes and count how many shares have been created. Just total up the numbers for each "Create x shares".
@Revan: You still haven't answered my direct question, although now there are others that are able to do so.
You were perfectly clear in the OP. 5,000 shares are already in the hands of other "investors", 3,000 shares are staying in the corp to fund growth and 2,000 shares are being sold here. What I want to know is what about the rest of the shares? There are at least 1,000 other shares floating around somewhere, possibly more.
5000+3000+2000= 10000. that all there is at the moment. just 10000 shares. share holders will confirm this. i suspect you think i hit creat 10000 shares in the vote, i typed in 9000, wich would add 9000 ontop of the already 1000 that existed. hopefully this clears things up. i like to work with good solid numbers. so next time i creat more shares there will be 100000 wich id type 90000 into the vote. dont think i can be any more clear, and i like your concern on this matter. |
Jethyl Silverscar
Soldiers of Yggdrasil
0
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Posted - 2012.01.15 00:10:00 -
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2 votes, 1 to create 9000 shares, and 1 to declare war on some noob corp 2 months ago |
Jethyl Silverscar
Soldiers of Yggdrasil
0
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Posted - 2012.01.15 00:10:00 -
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Are you happy now ? |
Jes Visuit
Private Investment Holdings Inc
2
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Posted - 2012.01.15 02:01:00 -
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alright, i'll bite, put me down for 250 shares please. Let me know when and to whom to send how much isk.
edit: confirm 250 shares received |
El 1974
Bendebeukers
Green Rhino
52
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Posted - 2012.01.15 10:14:00 -
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Ok, decided I want to raise my share from 1 to 500 (adding 499). Pls let me know if still available and how much isk to send. |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
In Vitro.
275
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Posted - 2012.01.15 11:40:00 -
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Jethyl Silverscar wrote:2 votes, 1 to create 9000 shares, and 1 to declare war on some noob corp 2 months ago
Thank you for that, although it does raise a question. Allow me a brief demonstration.
Let's take a not-so-random corp. FPA Holdings. Bet you can't guess who's corp that is. 
The show info in-game (feel free to check this yourself) states that there is 101,000 shares.
Screen cap of FPA Holdings in-game show info page.
Now, let's take a look at how many shares there really are.
Screen cap of the shareholders list taken from the FPA Holdings corp wallet.
Looks more like 300,000 to me. I've included the character sheet of the CEO just so you know it's really the right corp wallet.
The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/
Now showing: The Journey Begins: First steps in the great tour of null-sec. |
El 1974
Bendebeukers
Green Rhino
52
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Posted - 2012.01.15 11:55:00 -
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@Lauren: How did you create more shares than there should be? |
Lampsh Ell
Celldweller Heavy Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:07:00 -
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I'd like to reserve 500 shares please. Let me know to whom to send isk.
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Revan Slahka
0n3 World Industries
Crucial.
7
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Posted - 2012.01.15 18:56:00 -
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either i need to wait after my coffee when i wake to look at this forum or im woundering the same theing as the other. any ways if you want a screen shot of the corp share holders like you have shown, let me know. no need to beat around the bush. |
El 1974
Bendebeukers
Green Rhino
52
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Posted - 2012.01.15 19:39:00 -
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Shares received, have 500 total now. |
Lampsh Ell
Celldweller Heavy Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.01.15 23:40:00 -
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500 shares received |
Revan Slahka
0n3 World Industries
Crucial.
7
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Posted - 2012.01.15 23:43:00 -
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250 shares left |
Levija Saplina
Supremacy Inc.
Not Found.
56
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Posted - 2012.01.16 00:10:00 -
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This has worked out to be a perfect scam. |
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