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DeepScarlet
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.07.24 15:22:00 -
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Being of scurvy mind, i want to drop my sec, but i also want those luscious hi sec prices on mods. so heres my simple question.
if i agility fit a rapier, with a cloak, can i go through hi sec safely? or will i be insta locked or de-cloaked?
btw i plan to be bottom end of sec scale...
thanks
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Le Bon
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.24 15:25:00 -
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Baring in mind i've not tried it myself but the people whome i talk "Gamesence" with generally have a clue.
I've known soemone to try in an Arazu, failed. I've tried in an inty, failed.
Shuttles work. =
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
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Posted - 2007.07.24 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: DeepScarlet Being of scurvy mind, i want to drop my sec, but i also want those luscious hi sec prices on mods. so heres my simple question.
if i agility fit a rapier, with a cloak, can i go through hi sec safely? or will i be insta locked or de-cloaked?
btw i plan to be bottom end of sec scale...
thanks
Make an alt, train it to fly industrial ships. Get your mods that way.
With agility kit ships, you sometimes are safe, sometimes aren't. Shuttles even get caught by the faction navy from time to time, so it'd be pretty dumb to lose a Rapier like that.
-Karl
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DeepScarlet
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.07.24 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: DeepScarlet on 24/07/2007 15:32:46 thanks for ur replies, but i didnt ask about shuttles or inties.
i know many people who have used inties well through hi sec as outlaws.
can anyone answer me on behalf of the rapier?
the cloaking makes me think itll be fine...but!!!
thankyou
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Fluffy Rabbit
Caldari Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.07.24 15:40:00 -
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cant cloak if outlawed.
Or atleast last time i flew my cov-opt through high sec system i couldnt. Something about concord jammers or something. BTW yes got away so they werent locking me.
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Fluffy Rabbit
Caldari Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.07.24 15:40:00 -
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cant cloak if outlawed.
Or atleast last time i flew my cov-opt through high sec system i couldnt. Something about concord jammers or something. BTW yes got away so they werent locking me.
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Zkillz kun
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.24 15:55:00 -
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i've gotten pretty far through highsec in a stabber but some gates you'll find have unsually h4x gate police and no ammount of skills can get you past them. just go around in a T1 frigate to find paths that you can make safely and then throw some nanos on a stabber and enjoy.
safe option is to train a minnie alt to lvl4 industrial. gets 17k m3 with T2 expanders so you can cary battlecruisers. next biggest cargo is the itty 5 with 25k or so but that requires lvl5 of the industrial skill and i doubt you want to train that on an alt.
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Speed Devil
Caldari Mean Machines
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Posted - 2007.07.24 16:29:00 -
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entered 0.8 few days ago in pilgrim by accident with -3.22 secstatus and couldnt cloack (or not in time) and they finally blew me up after 2km at 20ms
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Belial Tempter
Amarr Twisted Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Speed Devil entered 0.8 few days ago in pilgrim by accident with -3.22 secstatus and couldnt cloack (or not in time) and they finally blew me up after 2km at 20ms
Done same
It says 'unable to cloak as there are ships in warp to your location' or some equally poor excuse
And I've tested a speed tanked Curse on teh test server, again...hit and miss tbh. Some systems you can get through, some not. Depends on whether the faction police have nipped out for doughnuts I guess
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Gypsio III
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:49:00 -
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Heh. I was flying about last week and saw a Drake under Faction Police fire. He wasn't returning fire, so I assume he was permajammed. I moved in to pick up the imminent loot... but after a minute it was obvious that his tank was holding easily.
He was webbed down to 20 m/s or so, trying to slowboat back to the gate. So I decided to bump him away from the gate. A 2.8 km/s Prowler can bump a Drake impressively far, a good 30 km!
Then I convoed him, asking for 10 mill for me to bump him back to the gate, to save him slowboating 40 km at 20 m/s. He wasn't impressed... and decided to log and try it again later!
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DeepScarlet
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.07.24 17:51:00 -
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cant cloak if outlawed... that sucks major nuts.
o well...
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gfldex
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.24 19:27:00 -
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Remember: Lag kills! --
There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
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LandoMar
Mutually Assured Distraction Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.24 19:55:00 -
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If you going to start pirating you should do it right. Get yourself an alt that can haul for you. There is no sense in risking getting blown up in high sec. You going to want a safe way to get your phat lootz to high sec to sell.
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Nicocat
Caldari Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.07.24 20:00:00 -
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I've whipped around highsec in a slasher w/ istab (even better, super-istab Stiletto of Infinite DoomÖ), but it's hit and miss, as stated. Sometimes the cops insta-lock faster than you can insta-warp...
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Luke Lamarr
Macabre Votum INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.07.24 20:22:00 -
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I actually wasted some time on this question, and tried a few things.
In the end, it is very hard to predict whether you will be able to pass thru a system or not, cuz it not only depends on your agility, speed and sig radius, but it also depends on the position of the faction police when you enter the high-sec system.
If they are on the gate you are coming from, you are very likely screwed. If they are elsewhere in the system (like in the case they would have recently engaged a player at another gate/station), you will get thru if your ship is agile enough.
In the case you get scrammed, turning around and heading for the gate you just came thru might save your skin, even if you are webbed to 0 m/s (found out that faction ships sometimes cycle their webbers on/off quickly, giving you just enough time to gather the speed needed to reach the gate)...
Anyway, try and see, but my bet woubbe to use an alt (and that is what I do now)
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Kumq uat
Gallente Round Table Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.07.24 22:26:00 -
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I actually had really good luck in an Incurses when I still had to truck 15 to the gate. Only got caught once or twice and I didnt lose anything but the ships those times.
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.07.24 22:34:00 -
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I nano fitted a claw, had no lag and still got webbed , scrammed and totaly screwed jumping into a 1.0 a few months back thinking I was quick enough.
What p1ssed me off is that I had done the trip a couple of times that week allready with the same setup.
It's pot luck I think.
Get yourself an alt.
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.24 22:49:00 -
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Rapier i wouldn't try it with but an inty with i-stabs will do it just fine.
DE
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Phiberoptick
Gallente KHM Corporation
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Posted - 2007.07.25 01:15:00 -
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i've made it out of hi sec in a i-stab rax, it was a .7 i think
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.25 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: DeepScarlet Being of scurvy mind, i want to drop my sec, but i also want those luscious hi sec prices on mods. so heres my simple question.
if i agility fit a rapier, with a cloak, can i go through hi sec safely? or will i be insta locked or de-cloaked?
btw i plan to be bottom end of sec scale...
thanks
You will die horribly, but please, try it anyway.
Originally by: Goumindong it is at the point where it is impossible to determine whether or not you are trolling or if you area really out of your freaking mind.
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Naru Narussegawa
Veto. Academy Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.25 03:15:00 -
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I got stuck undocking in a shuttle and the faction police popped me. So the alt idea is best:P
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Helen Hunts
Gallente Red Dragon Mining inc W A S T E L A N D
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Posted - 2007.07.25 05:14:00 -
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One little hitch about using an alt to haul the goods back to low-sec. Your alt is now prey for your Yarring bretheren. _______________________________
Mine da rocks, make more ships. Pop da rats, make more rigs. Sell da gear, make more money.
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Phuze
Caldari Armoured Assassins
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Posted - 2007.07.25 11:21:00 -
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Shuttles ive never had a prob getting around in through high sec. Tried a cepter setup for insta warp and failed . Think the way its set is basicly anything that can be fitted for combat is almost instalocked coming out of cloak .
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Gallente
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Posted - 2007.07.26 04:17:00 -
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Taranis with a nano and 3% agility implant gets caught in 0.7 systems. |
Azirapheal
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.07.26 08:11:00 -
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pre nerfbat istabbing ships to the hilt would get you through (although if you stopped to do anything but fly "asfastasfeckingpossibletowardsthenextgate" you would be bbq'd) i used to be able to take an armageddon out of a 1.0 system with 7 Istab2's in low (warp like a shuttle baby yeah!)
then something changed with the faction police - and my 400mill crow got bbq'd going through a .5 mainly because of the UBAR web/scramb
tbh im now using an alt to do it.
metagaming sucks... but there are NO mods in losec (and incidentally. any good traders that are willing to take a risk could probably make more money in losec than in 00)
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.26 08:59:00 -
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courier missions ftw
DE
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E'lucid
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Posted - 2007.07.26 09:42:00 -
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as far as i'm aware you looking at an inty or a shuttle , majority of other things just can't hit warp fast enough so i'd stick to a shuttle or inty to be safe
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.07.26 12:24:00 -
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The answer, which is depressingly the same answer to so many of Eve's puzzles, is "use an alt".
[sarc] And besides, what kind of pwnpwnbbq!oneelevne!nubbycakes pierate are you? [/sarc]
[forlorn] You do know that you are supposed to have between 3 and 10 high pet corps ran secretly by your alts, don't you? [/forlorn]
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Christopher Dalran
Gallente Deadly Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.26 20:11:00 -
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There is a specific police spawn that is responsable for immediatly reducing your speed to 1m/s and warp jamming you however that spawn is not alwayse present. Whenever a person with a bad sec rating enters through a gate this spawn will come. The time it takes to show up seems somewhat random but when he does you cant realy get past him.
Its chance realy, if the spawn is not there you can get past but if he is because someone tried earlier and spawned him your screwed. ------------------------------- C.D's Formula for success ------------------------------- Credit Card = Game Time Card Gametime Card = ISK Therefore Credit Card = ISK.
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Landrassa
Astral Resource Cartel
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Posted - 2007.07.26 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Blands The answer, which is depressingly the same answer to so many of Eve's puzzles, is "use an alt".
[sarc] And besides, what kind of pwnpwnbbq!oneelevne!nubbycakes pierate are you? [/sarc]
[forlorn] You do know that you are supposed to have between 3 and 10 high pet corps ran secretly by your alts, don't you? [/forlorn]
I thought the standard answer to every whine/complaint/question/all of the above was "this is a multiplayer game, get some friends!"
On a completely unrelated note, anyone want to hire a pilot with positive sec status to deliver stuff to lowsec? only a 50% markup!
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