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Jientolical
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Posted - 2007.07.25 08:18:00 -
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I have never used a hyperion before so had a look over on the test server. I have found a pretty nice uber damage fitting- but that would only be for capital support as it has little tank to speak of, and doesn't make use of the nice repping bonus. As i said it's not for anything other than damage.
Highs: 8x Neutron Blater(Modal Mega or T2)
Meds: 3x Large Shield Extender, Invulnerability Field, Photon Scattering Field
Lows: 2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer 4x PDU (or 3x Magnetic Field Stabilizer and 3x PDU if you don't need the extra Powergrid)
This has 20k+ shields with decent skills, and does close to 850dps with all required skills at least level 4 (if you use the 3 MFS and T2 blasters).
Just posting this to see if anybody has other ideas on a fitting. I wouldn't use the hyperion for solo fighting (Domi>Hyp for that) and would only use it in large fleets of capital ship support/ fighting.
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.25 08:23:00 -
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 no, just no. Armor tank it. seriously.
DE
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Stientolical
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Posted - 2007.07.25 08:26:00 -
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I'd love to if you could fit 3 Magnetic Field Stabs and 8 neutron blasters and still have an armor tank 
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.25 08:31:00 -
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Edited by: DarkElf on 25/07/2007 08:31:29
 Originally by: Stientolical
I'd love to if you could fit 3 Magnetic Field Stabs and 8 neutron blasters and still have an armor tank
I'd wager that a large rep, eanm, dmg ctrl and 3 mag stabs would probably still tank better than that setup. Plus without a tracking mod and neutrons you really struggle for tracking tbh.
DE
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Stientolical
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Posted - 2007.07.25 08:36:00 -
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The PDU give Powergrid bonuses as well as all the other stuff- without them there is no way you could fit the 8 neutron blasters + LAR etc. With them there are no slots for LAR etc
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Redora
Gallente
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.25 08:37:00 -
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Edited by: Redora on 25/07/2007 08:39:08
3x MFS and Neutrons are out of the question, but I can fit:
8x Modal Meg Neutrons
Quad Lif MWD
Web
Scram
2x Electrochem Med Injector
(Drop the 2x Med Electrochems, add in a Heavy Electrochem and a tracking comp gives you some extra tracking, but you have to drop to best-named rep without AWU 5.)
LAR II
DCU II
2x EANM II
2x MFS II
2x Aux Nano Pumps
PG rig.
Needs AWU 4 and Eng/Elec 5.
MWD Up to target, and as long as you turn off the MWD and stagger the Med Electrochems, you can permarun the tank (for as long as you have charges).
750ish DPS with drones. (3x Heavy 2x Hammerheads, or 4x Heavy for -10ish DPS)
And ACTUALLY USES THE ARMOR REPPING BONUS, if not to full effect. Shield tanking Gallente ships is usually hard, shield tanking them with an armor repping bonus is not smart, and blaster fitting without a MWD is just suicide.
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Stientolical
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Posted - 2007.07.25 08:42:00 -
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Well that looks much better than my fit. Trouble is i don't have AWU to level 4 yet, but that is somewhere on my short term list of skills  That looks like a very nice fitting- thanks for the idea
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Stientolical
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Posted - 2007.07.25 08:44:00 -
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To free up a med slot use Webifier drones- otherwise the moderate drone bay goes to waste. Don't know what you could put in the med slot other than Cap Recharger though
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Fswd
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Posted - 2007.07.25 08:47:00 -
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I never thought I would say this, but I just murdered my first kitty.
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Derofey Diknose
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.07.25 08:48:00 -
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I've found this setup to be the most succesfull for me.
Highs: 8x Modal Mega Neutron
Mids: Named MWD, Webber, Scram or cap rechargers, tracking comp
Lows: T2 LAR, 3x N-Type hardeners, 2x T2 Mag field stabs
Rigs: 3x CCC
I've had some good outings with this one in 0.0 and as a DPS ship in lvl 4's
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Stientolical
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Posted - 2007.07.25 08:51:00 -
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How in the world do you fit that with the hyperion's PG?
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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.25 08:53:00 -
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You people are sick. What the hell is wrong with you? Don't ever undock a Hype. Ever.
Originally by: Goumindong
it is at the point where it is impossible to determine whether or not you are trolling or if you area really out of your freaking mind.
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Gladiator Jonny
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.25 09:05:00 -
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I have a hyper, i generally use it purely as a sponge/bait to soak up all the damage  because it deserves it.
Prefer my megathron for everything else tbh,
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Derofey Diknos
Gallente
Alliance among Wolves
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.07.25 09:10:00 -
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Oh definantly prefer the Mega to the Hyp. The Hyp is like a tweaker, possible potential in the right circumstance's, but more than likely completely worthless.
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.25 09:16:00 -
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My Current hyp setup
8 ion II's
mwd, web, disruptor, heavy injector, tracking comp II
2 x LAR II, 2 x EANM II, dmg ctrl, mag stab II
pg rig, 2 rep amount rigs (could be 2 pg rigs i can't quite remember)
pwn
DE
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Gladiator Jonny
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.25 09:27:00 -
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how does your cap play with that setup?
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Gladiator Jonny
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.25 09:27:00 -
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how does your cap play with that setup?
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.25 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gladiator Jonny
how does your cap play with that setup?
it's an issue tbh. I have maxed cap skills so not under nos it can run for quite some time all blazing. Under a few of heavy nos you can't really keep the twin rep going for too long.
I've thought about using a single rep neutron setup for a while but it just seems a waste of the bonus. atm i'm running 2 dark blood reps and they rep over 3000 together per cycle which i love too much to halve 
DE
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.25 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gladiator Jonny
how does your cap play with that setup?
it's an issue tbh. I have maxed cap skills so not under nos it can run for quite some time all blazing. Under a few of heavy nos you can't really keep the twin rep going for too long.
I've thought about using a single rep neutron setup for a while but it just seems a waste of the bonus. atm i'm running 2 dark blood reps and they rep over 3000 together per cycle which i love too much to halve
DE
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Gladiator Jonny
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.25 09:38:00 -
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yea i understand.
i generally use two ships depending on the job.
Hyperion:
6x electron 2x nos.
basic meds + duel web.
Duel LAR, Hardners, damage control.
use that for some solo... takes ages to kill anything
or*
Megathron
7x ions.
basic meds.
LAR, 1600 rt, dmg control, 2x MFS, 2x EANM
2x trimarks and the other slot aint filled yet.
they work, i used to run duel rep mega with ions but the cap sucked so bad i just gave in to a buffer.
LAR.
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.25 10:58:00 -
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yeah. see i've used these ships for a very long time and mostly have used a twin rep. i tend to kill targets at gate solo or if i'm in a gang then i normally get primaried  so i like the double rep. sometimes i feel more comfortable with a single because the cap is so much more stable but i just don't quite think it cuts it unless ur gank fit and can kill very quickly.
that ion setup mega looks decent but again i normally go twin rep but u have to fit a few cheap faction mods for that.
was playing around with a single rep 8 neutron hyp and fits quite nice with 1 plate and 2 hp rigs getting me a nice 30k armor hp in gang which is a decent buffer with 1 still pretty damn good rep.
I'm never bloody happy with my setups
DE
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Gladiator Jonny
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.25 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
I'm never bloody happy with my setups
Tell me about it.
would be so much happier if nos didnt shut everything and their mum down.
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Jonak
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.07.25 11:38:00 -
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Hi: 8 x Miner II
Mid: Nothing
Low: 3 x MLU, 2 x Co-Processor
Haven't tried to use this thing for fighting yet, but I get just a little more yield than a Retriever with a T1 setup. Depending on the pilots skills of course.
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enymphia
M. Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.25 12:15:00 -
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shield tanking a ship that gets 37.5% bonus to ARMOR rep @ lvl 5? Bad idea.
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Imo thefirst
Danish Space bees
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Posted - 2007.07.25 12:46:00 -
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i mainly use my hyp as a tank to soak dam from rats in lev 4 missions when playing in group
using
high 3x 350mm rail , drone range, 4x heavy nos
mid 5x cap rechargers
low 2x LAR2 , DC2 , 2xEANM, expl resist (cant remember name)
rigs 2xCCC and a nano pump
t2 mid drones to kill friggis
can permarun the two LAR2 and my corp mates can focus on dam
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Ozzie Asrail
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.07.25 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
My Current hyp setup
8 ion II's
mwd, web, disruptor, heavy injector, tracking comp II
2 x LAR II, 2 x EANM II, dmg ctrl, mag stab II
pg rig, 2 rep amount rigs (could be 2 pg rigs i can't quite remember)
pwn
DE
Dump the pg rig for a cap amount rig and swap the heavy booster and tracking comp for 2x med boosters.
pwn more 
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Woofsie
Minmatar
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
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Posted - 2007.07.25 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jientolical
I have never used a hyperion before so had a look over on the test server. I have found a pretty nice uber damage fitting- but that would only be for capital support as it has little tank to speak of, and doesn't make use of the nice repping bonus. As i said it's not for anything other than damage.
Highs: 8x Neutron Blater(Modal Mega or T2)
Meds: 3x Large Shield Extender, Invulnerability Field, Photon Scattering Field
Lows: 2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer 4x PDU (or 3x Magnetic Field Stabilizer and 3x PDU if you don't need the extra Powergrid)
This has 20k+ shields with decent skills, and does close to 850dps with all required skills at least level 4 (if you use the 3 MFS and T2 blasters).
Just posting this to see if anybody has other ideas on a fitting. I wouldn't use the hyperion for solo fighting (Domi>Hyp for that) and would only use it in large fleets of capital ship support/ fighting.
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Where's your body?
Everybody I know who is right agrees with me.
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Billy Hardcore
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Posted - 2007.07.25 13:56:00 -
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Don't bother with single rep setups, really. Dual rep and go from there, or if you insist, HP buffer with tri-marks (EANM II, 1600mm, DCU II, 3 MFS). Megathron does that trick better tho.
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ozzie Asrail
Originally by: DarkElf
My Current hyp setup
8 ion II's
mwd, web, disruptor, heavy injector, tracking comp II
2 x LAR II, 2 x EANM II, dmg ctrl, mag stab II
pg rig, 2 rep amount rigs (could be 2 pg rigs i can't quite remember)
pwn
DE
Dump the pg rig for a cap amount rig and swap the heavy booster and tracking comp for 2x med boosters.
pwn more
I used a double med injector setup before but without the tracking comp the tracking really does suck. Even with a 5% tracking mod and maxed gunnery supports you really feel the loss of the tracking bonus that the mega gets. wouldn't mind so much if it was the tracking on electrons but ions + no tracking mod is just a little tricky.
It is a good point tho.
DE
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Gladiator Jonny
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:24:00 -
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Wondering myself what to stick in my last hypers rig slot,
currently have 2 armor rep amounts but, as its designed just to take a beating im not sure if a rep speed, exp/em pump or another rep amount would be better.
Any ideas?
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