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FanXian Tuo
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Posted - 2007.07.25 13:09:00 -
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Hi there just wanted to know what the deimos is like in pvp. Role, Str, weaknesses and so on.
How to fit for pve/ pvp
Whats better ratting ship overall in 0.0 hyp or deimos?
What about the Gallente recons are they worth the training lets say for 1on1 or fleet?
Thanks for your help and suggestions...
FanXian
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Blitza Ling
O.E.C
Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.07.25 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Blitza Ling on 25/07/2007 13:28:05
The Deimos dishes out great damage in a gang fight but are typically the first ship to be called primary. They die very quickly after this. In solo pvp all it takes is a single nos to ruin your day.
Their powergrid is anemic and you need to fit 2 PG rigs to get the most out of the ship. Its slower than it should be and this hurts as well. I believe I fitted 4 Neutron IIs, and 1 Ion II, MWD, web, injector, 1 medium repper, an explosive hardener and rest were mag field stabs, but have sold it now that I've got command ships.
Basically, buy an Ishtar for PVE or PVP.
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FanXian Tuo
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Posted - 2007.07.25 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: FanXian Tuo on 25/07/2007 13:58:21
And what about the recon ships for pvp heard they are pretty good?
btw wouldnt the Ishtar be the same like a a little dominix. if yes i havea domi so why go for ishtar.
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Vito Parabellum
Fivrelde Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:02:00 -
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Deimos is crap, ishtar is good but a myrmidon is similar and is a lot cheaper.
Arazu/lachesis are very good in pvp so go for them if pvp is your thing.
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Lord DarkStar
Gallente
Mobile Alcohol Processing Units
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:03:00 -
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for pvp both lach and arazu are good ships,both are skill intensive,damps mostly,cov ops for arazu and missles for lach,but they are not high dps,very very good support ships,arazu is a good combat scout,mine worked very well untill a bug in the game caused it to warp ontop of 2 bcs close range ... didnt work well ... but all in all,if you want to fly with the gang and have more dps,lach is cheep and effective as long as you have good missle skills (ive never flown a lach) and if you want to fly with the gang or be a scout and get points on enemys then arazu is better,its dps sucks but cloak makes up for it,and with the ship bonus on both it can easily stay at 30km and scram targets,
all in all perfict support ships,totaly worth the time training but arazu is too freaking expensive nowadays to lose them every other day :P
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FanXian Tuo
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: FanXian Tuo on 25/07/2007 14:19:26
hm skills are not sop the problem ...yes the missile ones maybe should train em a bit up.
i can fly ishtar and dominix both also have t2 large and med hybrid as t2 drones.
what would be better for ratting/pvp now ..... until i get my recons.
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Mrs Brown
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: Mrs Brown on 25/07/2007 14:51:52
Love my Deimos, the looks alone are enough to have one in the hanger, however...
PvP it sucks, really hard. NOS kills it, getting webbed back kills it, too slow; vagabonds and any nano ship kills it.
Was the best ship in the game untill they reduced the drone bay from 8 (or was it 6???) heavy drones a year or so ago, insane DPS 
Current DPS is still good, but luck plays a bigger part.
Before drone nurf, if you couldn't get within 10km the guy will still have lots of drones on him. Now the guy would have 50m/3 worth of droneage, not enough... Oh and the fact that the powergrid got gimped around tbe same time nutrons, nos, MAR and MWD are a pig to fit.
As for 0.0 ratting, the ship rules. Enough tank for ANY 0.0 spawn, speedy cruiser sized warping means that you can cover all the belts in a system very quickly and move onto the next. Also ratting is so boreing you need a pretty ship to look at.
try this
0.0 ratting -
ion's
Cloak
MWD
Web
Cap recharger
MAR
2x rat specific hardeners
CPR
2x mag stabs
You need to perma run it all including the MWD. MWD is half the tank! Swap out the mStabs for CPR's, try some rigs or something.
You ARE useing t2 right?
My goal is to get a x10 dmg mod  , 3 slot tank and MWD... has anyone achived this yet?
Good luck, you're gonna need it if you decide to pvp 
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Ziggy Stardustt
SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:45:00 -
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^^ should have posted with Ziggy, sry 
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FanXian Tuo
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:57:00 -
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yeah i run t2 ... not on this char thats my posting alt ;o)
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n0thing
omen.
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Posted - 2007.07.25 15:09:00 -
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Deimos imo is a gang ship when you got EW support and such. Then it can help killing stuff fast.
Not that bad at that role imo, but yeah prolly need 2 PG rigs to get most of it.
As for Ishtar and Myrmidon comparsion. It keeps coming back and it keeps being silly. You cant compare HAC and BC. Ishtar is more agile and has better speed/lock time thus its a good choise over a Myrmidon for ranged solo flights.
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Kua Immortal
RSP Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.07.25 18:53:00 -
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 Originally by: n0thing
Deimos imo is a gang ship when you got EW support and such. Then it can help killing stuff fast.
Not that bad at that role imo, but yeah prolly need 2 PG rigs to get most of it.
As for Ishtar and Myrmidon comparsion. It keeps coming back and it keeps being silly. You cant compare HAC and BC. Ishtar is more agile and has better speed/lock time thus its a good choise over a Myrmidon for ranged solo flights.
It can pack its own Ewar support to an extent - in the form of ECM drones. It's a bit hit and miss though.
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Diehard Si
UK1 Zero
Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.25 19:48:00 -
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i've just fit a rack of ions and a medium NOS to mine to try out, not had chance to see how effective it is yet.
Had a scrap with a mates myrmidon who had lower skills and tech 1 drones and he ate me alive.
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Ziggy Stardustt
SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.26 11:17:00 -
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Yea, drone ships really nob on the deimos.
As I said before, the ship is 1/2 and 1/2 armor and speed tank. Drones > speed 
The emphasis on tanking now really hit the deimos hard. It is a long time since I chewed my way through gank geddons or similar, no one really flys like that any more 
Originally by: Diehard Si
i've just fit a rack of ions and a medium NOS to mine to try out, not had chance to see how effective it is yet.
Had a scrap with a mates myrmidon who had lower skills and tech 1 drones and he ate me alive.
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n0thing
omen.
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Posted - 2007.07.26 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Diehard Si
i've just fit a rack of ions and a medium NOS to mine to try out, not had chance to see how effective it is yet.
Had a scrap with a mates myrmidon who had lower skills and tech 1 drones and he ate me alive.
Did your mate had nosfs and dual rep tank? Then ofc he ate you alive, so it will anything that will get into <10km range.
Point of deimos is not going for head-to-head combat, imo its mostly as gang damage dealer when your target EWed/webbed and whatnot.
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Dreadmuppet Four
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Posted - 2007.07.26 12:51:00 -
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makes a great 0.0 ratter
Deimos
Heavy Electron Blaster II [200xAntimatter Charge M]
Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xAntimatter Charge M]
Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xAntimatter Charge M]
Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xAntimatter Charge M]
Heavy Ion Blaster II [120xAntimatter Charge M]
Prototype Cloaking Device I
Patterned Stasis Web I
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Medium Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
Rigs : Empty Slot \ Empty Slot \
Hammerhead II
Hammerhead II
Hammerhead II
Hammerhead II
Hammerhead II
1334 shield, 3.34/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/64/86/64
2550 armor, E/T/K/Ex=65/87/93/65
1611.328125 cap, +20.67/s, -43.944/s
1392.0 m/s
201.6 DPS (plus drones)
I have an expl hardener fitted so if I'm needed at a gate to gank something I can without endangering my ship too badly. could prob swap it out for a mag stab I guess
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