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Dash Kendar	Posted - 2007.07.25 15:13:00 - [1] Is it possible to be a Pirate in just a Crow Interceptor? And most likely by yourself? I know that they can go very fast and don't take a lot of damage because of it, but I have never heard of a single crow being able to Pirate effectively or any Interceptor for that matter.
Vizranuh	Posted - 2007.07.25 15:22:00 - [2] Yes, and it's quite enjoyable. I've gone solo in a crow, crusader, and malediction. You have to pick your targets but it's good good fun. The crow is probably the easiest to solo in since it does good DPS and uses little cap. Have fun --
XrayZ Euphoria Foundation	Posted - 2007.07.25 15:23:00 - [3] http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/md-k/metropolis.wmv check that one out and think again --------------------------------------
xenodia Gallente Shadowrun Company	Posted - 2007.07.25 15:24:00 - [4] Originally by: Vizranuh Yes, and it's quite enjoyable. I've gone solo in a crow, crusader, and malediction. You have to pick your targets but it's good good fun. The crow is probably the easiest to solo in since it does good DPS and uses little cap. Have fun And because its primary damage type (rockets/missiles) arent affected by how fast you are going. As opposed to say a taranis, which isnt going to hit anything when youre moving 7k per second.
Callente Riveara Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.25 15:30:00 - [5] no. It is not. You need a Parrot to be an effective Pirate.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.07.25 15:31:00 - [6] I know of the following happening in my local area with regards to Crows: Someone solo pirated a Ferox in a Crow A pair of inties (one a crow) took down a Drake A gistii crow took on a rupture and bbq'd it A gistii crow took on a drake and got popped by a Huginn Overall? Yeah, you can pirate in a crow... just be careful. Webs = bad. Liang Originally by: "QproQ" When people say "Put 'stabs on your 'cane", they mean GYROSTABS"
Lore Isander Caldari Paisti	Posted - 2007.07.25 15:39:00 - [7] And first Crusader you meet puts an end to your miserable Gistii-Crow. (Unless you manage to make a run for it.) And about Crow being fun to fly, I dont really agree with that. Crow is as boring as NanoCurse is, VERY boring.
Lobster Man Murder-Death-Kill Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.25 15:48:00 - [8] Edited by: Lobster Man on 25/07/2007 15:49:48 There are 3 things a crow needs to be good at solo piracy: 1. An mwd; faction is best. You're going to need to be able to maintain 6k/s+ to be effective. 2. 24+ km scram. Get a further one if you can afford it, the quicker you get that point on the better, 3. This one here is just personal preference. A faction web. If you can web them while orbiting at 14+ km, they're screwedd becuase they're webbed and scrammed and this little ship orbiting them at 7k/s is spamming missiles and they can't do anything about it. (this one is especially nice against other inties) Now if you're planning on taking out larger ships I'd be tempted to swap the web for a tracking disruptor.
Elles D Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.07.25 15:51:00 - [9] http://akak.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=622244 Gistii Crow you say? Lol i do it in T2 quite comfortably; Crusaders do **** tbfh. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Jake Stevens The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen	Posted - 2007.07.25 15:51:00 - [10] Its awesome to pirate in... until you realise you cant break anyones tank. I really mean anyone. I think my battlehauler puts out as much dps as a crow. Crow = tackler Crow != solopwnmobile
Cpt Fina Insult to Injury	Posted - 2007.07.25 16:23:00 - [11] You can solopirate in a crow for sure
Great Artista Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.25 16:31:00 - [12] Originally by: Lore Isander And first Crusader you meet puts an end to your miserable Gistii-Crow. (Unless you manage to make a run for it.) And about Crow being fun to fly, I dont really agree with that. Crow is as boring as NanoCurse is, VERY boring. Total agreement. If you want to have speed tank AND THINK when you pvp, I recomend stabber. Vagabond is kinda meh too, you have that fall-off bonus so its not so intesive, as balancing in the range of your turrets and avoiding web range becomes much easier. But each to their own aguess. _______ GA out.
Lore Isander Caldari Paisti	Posted - 2007.07.25 16:42:00 - [13] Edited by: Lore Isander on 25/07/2007 16:43:07 Originally by: Elles D http://akak.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=622244 Gistii Crow you say? Lol i do it in T2 quite comfortably; Crusaders do **** tbfh. Come do the same to my Sader, kay? That Sader was close range fitted, it wont kill anyone. ( Except maybe some poor frigates or something). It's all about Dual Light Beam II pwnage and dictating your range.
Jogvan The Rat Pack	Posted - 2007.07.25 16:53:00 - [14] Originally by: Jake Stevens Its awesome to pirate in... until you realise you cant break anyones tank. I really mean anyone. I think my battlehauler puts out as much dps as a crow. Crow = tackler Crow != solopwnmobile So true...I used to fly around in crow/inty gangs usually with 3-4 people and it was great fun. Then later tried to solo in crow and gave up since it took ages to just kill t1 cruisers. Almost managed to kill a drake solo (+ help from low sec belt rats) but the guy had ecm fitted (not drones!), jammed me and warped out Crow != solopwnmobile Crow = gangpwnmobile
Elles D Caldari Epic.	Posted - 2007.07.25 16:56:00 - [15] Originally by: Lore Isander Edited by: Lore Isander on 25/07/2007 16:44:16 Edited by: Lore Isander on 25/07/2007 16:43:07 Originally by: Elles D http://akak.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=622244 Gistii Crow you say? Lol i do it in T2 quite comfortably; Crusaders do **** tbfh. Come do the same to my Sader, kay? That Sader was close range fitted, it wont kill anyone. ( Except maybe some poor frigates or something). It's all about Dual Light Beam II pwnage and dictating your range. Dead Gistii-Crow Funnily enough i can dictate range perfectly with mine too, and id do it by flying manually so ultimatly it would die too. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Great Artista Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.25 17:05:00 - [16] Edited by: Great Artista on 25/07/2007 17:08:59 Originally by: Elles D Originally by: Lore Isander Edited by: Lore Isander on 25/07/2007 16:44:16 Edited by: Lore Isander on 25/07/2007 16:43:07 Originally by: Elles D http://akak.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=622244 Gistii Crow you say? Lol i do it in T2 quite comfortably; Crusaders do **** tbfh. Come do the same to my Sader, kay? That Sader was close range fitted, it wont kill anyone. ( Except maybe some poor frigates or something). It's all about Dual Light Beam II pwnage and dictating your range. Dead Gistii-Crow Funnily enough i can dictate range perfectly with mine too, and id do it by flying manually so ultimatly it would die too. Crusader packs more low-slots. Crusader does more dps. EDIT: Oops, I remembered wrong, crow is slightly lighter Yet the amount of lowslots compensates it a bit. And higher base speed _______ GA out.
Lore Isander Caldari Paisti	Posted - 2007.07.25 17:10:00 - [17] Originally by: Great Artista Edited by: Great Artista on 25/07/2007 17:08:10 Originally by: Elles D Originally by: Lore Isander Edited by: Lore Isander on 25/07/2007 16:44:16 Edited by: Lore Isander on 25/07/2007 16:43:07 Originally by: Elles D http://akak.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=622244 Gistii Crow you say? Lol i do it in T2 quite comfortably; Crusaders do **** tbfh. Come do the same to my Sader, kay? That Sader was close range fitted, it wont kill anyone. ( Except maybe some poor frigates or something). It's all about Dual Light Beam II pwnage and dictating your range. Dead Gistii-Crow Funnily enough i can dictate range perfectly with mine too, and id do it by flying manually so ultimatly it would die too. Crusader packs more low-slots. Crusader does more dps. EDIT: Oops, I remembered wrong, crow is slightly lighter Yet the amount of lowslots compensates it a bit. Crusader is still the fastest inty in the game. And without Gistii MWD your Crow will definitely be slower than mine. And if you want to be out of my shooting range, you have to be out of scram range, which means I could just run too. I dont see how a good Crusader pilot is going to die to a Crow.
Great Artista Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.25 17:14:00 - [18] Originally by: Lore Isander And if you want to be out of my shooting range, you have to be out of scram range, which means I could just run too. I dont see how a good Crusader pilot is going to die to a Crow. Yeah, especially because at those speeds, light missile hits crusader for 0.1-2.0 dmg, while lazors still land good shots. Especially because no-one is ever orbitting crow, just head straight on, so low transveral that every shot lands. Crusader > crow. In every way, really. _______ GA out.
Cpt Fina Insult to Injury	Posted - 2007.07.25 17:38:00 - [19] Originally by: Lore Isander Originally by: Great Artista Edited by: Great Artista on 25/07/2007 17:08:10 Originally by: Elles D Originally by: Lore Isander Edited by: Lore Isander on 25/07/2007 16:44:16 Edited by: Lore Isander on 25/07/2007 16:43:07 Originally by: Elles D http://akak.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=622244 Gistii Crow you say? Lol i do it in T2 quite comfortably; Crusaders do **** tbfh. Come do the same to my Sader, kay? That Sader was close range fitted, it wont kill anyone. ( Except maybe some poor frigates or something). It's all about Dual Light Beam II pwnage and dictating your range. Dead Gistii-Crow Funnily enough i can dictate range perfectly with mine too, and id do it by flying manually so ultimatly it would die too. Crusader packs more low-slots. Crusader does more dps. EDIT: Oops, I remembered wrong, crow is slightly lighter Yet the amount of lowslots compensates it a bit. Crusader is still the fastest inty in the game. And without Gistii MWD your Crow will definitely be slower than mine. And if you want to be out of my shooting range, you have to be out of scram range, which means I could just run too. I dont see how a good Crusader pilot is going to die to a Crow. I dont see how a good Inty pilot is going to die to any other intypilot.
B1G DAVE Veto. Academy Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.25 18:25:00 - [20] Crow is a pretty decent solo pirate ship. It takes a while to kill things, but it gets teh job done eventually, and its very survivable, which is a big plus for people who fund themselves through pvp. I recently killed a harbinger in my crow solo, without even NPC rate helping. Its wasn't terribly well fitted, but it wasn't bad either. It took a while, but got there in the end :D
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.07.25 18:35:00 - [21] Killed a myrmidon in a taranis once Was in the privateers though, not pirating as such He had lasers fitted in the top slots and couldnt hit me SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
jimmyjam Turbulent	Posted - 2007.07.25 18:59:00 - [22] Originally by: Dash Kendar Is it possible to be a Pirate in just a Crow Interceptor? And most likely by yourself? I know that they can go very fast and don't take a lot of damage because of it, but I have never heard of a single crow being able to Pirate effectively or any Interceptor for that matter. No way you cant pirate in a crow.Jokeing aside the crow is a great ship to use for piracy.
Wan Li Amarr	Posted - 2007.07.25 19:22:00 - [23] Yup good ship. ---------------
Ferocious FeAr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.25 19:32:00 - [24] If I were to ever fly another fast ship it would have to be a vagabond. I mean what other HAC can go 7k a sec with 10k shields and have 450+ dps. Bah, minmatar you lucky.....people. Don't hate me, learn to love me
Susa Ou	Posted - 2007.07.25 19:49:00 - [25] Ya, but that overpriced HAC is a bigger target and dies like any other when the web hits it. . . Vegabonds are overrated - if you can't do what a vega can in a Saider, then you are just trying to compensate for your lack of skills with more firepower. . .which is only going to cost you more in the end. . . Of course, compairing a HAC with an Inti is the first mistake. How about compairing Nano-Curses to. . .Domis. . .sound similar, totaly different.
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.25 19:58:00 - [26] Originally by: Elles D http://akak.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=622244 Gistii Crow you say? Lol i do it in T2 quite comfortably; Crusaders do **** tbfh. That's a pulse-sader and not a beam-sader. Pulse-sader is not hard to beat, but beam-sader is very hard to beat in a crow. Caldari are the plague of EVE, little whiners that must be cleansed from TQ.
Ferocious FeAr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.25 20:04:00 - [27] Originally by: Susa Ou Ya, but that overpriced HAC is a bigger target and dies like any other when the web hits it. . . Vegabonds are overrated - if you can't do what a vega can in a Saider, then you are just trying to compensate for your lack of skills with more firepower. . .which is only going to cost you more in the end. . . Of course, compairing a HAC with an Inti is the first mistake. How about compairing Nano-Curses to. . .Domis. . .sound similar, totaly different. What are you smokin' How is 95 million overpriced? Have you been around when they were over 200m? It is a bigger target but if the pilot knows what he is doing he is virtually invisible. As for it being webbed, same can be said about an interceptor. Plus a smart vaga pilot will never go near web range. If he dies its because of a mistake or he takes a risk, that is on the pilot no one else. Vagabonds are anything but overrated. I think you lack the experiences of engaging an experienced pilot. If I'm in an interceptor (which I rarely am, its the most boring class in EVE) I fear vaga's more then I do huginn/rapiers. I was not trying to compare each vessel, I was trying to imply that pirating in a crow is pointless when the vaga can do what it does and better. I can't see how you can argue logic. Don't hate me, learn to love me
Lore Isander Caldari Paisti	Posted - 2007.07.25 20:12:00 - [28] Originally by: Ferocious FeAr Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 25/07/2007 20:05:03 Originally by: Susa Ou Ya, but that overpriced HAC is a bigger target and dies like any other when the web hits it. . . Vegabonds are overrated - if you can't do what a vega can in a Saider, then you are just trying to compensate for your lack of skills with more firepower. . .which is only going to cost you more in the end. . . Of course, compairing a HAC with an Inti is the first mistake. How about compairing Nano-Curses to. . .Domis. . .sound similar, totaly different. What are you smokin' How is 95 million overpriced? Have you been around when they were over 200m? It is a bigger target but if the pilot knows what he is doing he is virtually invisible. As for it being webbed, same can be said about an interceptor. Plus a smart vaga pilot will never go near web range. If he dies its because of a mistake or he takes a risk, that is on the pilot no one else. Vagabonds are anything but overrated. If I'm in an interceptor (which I rarely am, its the most boring class in EVE) I fear vaga's more then I do huginn/rapiers. I was not trying to compare each vessel, I was trying to imply that pirating in a crow is pointless when the vaga can do what it does and better. I can't see how you can argue logic. Invisible Vagabond? GIEF NAU!
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2007.07.25 20:26:00 - [29] It's easier for a new player to get into an Inty than it is for a Vaga, and learning to fly at speed in an inty only makes your Vaga skills better. Saying that, I occasionally Pirate in a Crow solo (I mainly fly Rifters, Ruptures and the occasional sortie in the Vaga) and it's a bunch of fun IMO. True the Crusader will beat it if the crow is dumb enough to stay and fight(I think myself and Lore have had this discussion elsewhere in C&P)but then I tend to stay away from them, same for Rapier/Huginn. Key to any interceptor is to stay out of web range as web=death. I've been harrasing Ravens and Maelstroms ratting in lowsec recently, killing t2 drones while they conga behind me (Being an independant means it's not easy to call on friends with bigger ships to come pwn). The Crow doesn't have the DPS to break a lot of tanks but you'll find it's pretty good at taking down anything cruiser sized or smaller (Stealth Bombers which are all the rage atm are easy pickings) I got a nice ransom off a Wolf pilot just yesterday, got him to 5% structure while he didn't even scratch my paint. If you're going to fly the Crow I highly suggest using Caldari Navy Bloodclaws, they are <3 Remember, like with any ship, pick your battles.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.25 20:34:00 - [30] Originally by: Kane Rizzel It's easier for a new player to get into an Inty than it is for a Vaga, and learning to fly at speed in an inty only makes your Vaga skills better. QFT Of course you can solo pirate in low sec in an inty. Just pick your targets well, turret ships will never track you and if you go above 5km/s in orbit, no missile will hurt you. There has been a lack of inty gangs recently, possibly due to the shear amount of people fitting NOS. Even a medium NOS at 12km can completely compromise an inty. It's even more effective than webs. The speed cruiser or HAC has replaced the inty in gangs, it can take a bit of nossing and does the same job. Shame really, inty gangs are great fun I, erm, like kill things and stuff

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