Originally by: Angelus Damelon

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Originally by: Prez21

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Bob arnt losing they win most battles and kill alot more ships than there enemies, i will agree that they arnt doing aswel as before, but after seeing all the garbage posts 6 months back about how bob would be dead within a month they dont seem to be doing to bad do they?

The stations they have lost are stations that they already took of goons and friends so its not like its a major loss to them. When i see Bob losing more BS than they kill and start losing stations closer to home than i,ll take these post alittle more serious, until then it doesnt mean a thing.

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This is not a flame; however, I truly believe that only people who were involved in the southern front of the war can understand just how broken Titans were before Rev II and how multiple Titans completely changed fleet warfare. Even BoB leadership admitted that they were broken pre-nerf.

Examine the territory that BoB gained in the south (all of it pre-nerf). 9-9, XGH, and Omist -- which was abandoned by GS, just as it was abandoned by LV; it is a difficult area to defend from attack from Tenerifis / Detorid once you lose control of 9-9, due to moon count and choke points.

Omist was thus won by default once BoB captured 9-9. They captured 9-9 by spamming POS (again, huge moon count); thanks to Titans, both subcapital fleets and fighter drones became strategically worthless -- with 4 Titans, BoB could fire a DD every 15 minutes, or fire multiple DDs at once to wipe out even the heaviest tanked battleship (which would ultimately be so heavily gimped by fitting that tank that it would be rendered worthless anyway). Further, they were able to deploy their own subcapitals and fighters at will. Once solidifying their hold on 9-9, the same tactic was used to take XGH.

Just like no one expects an opposing fleet to hold their fire if the opposing fleet has clearly crashed or desynced, no one can blame BoB for taking full advantage of their wealth to spam POS and Titan invulnerability to turn the southern battles into Capital Ships Online, removing subcapitals from any relevance.

Post-nerf, BoB has lost XGH and 9-9. 2 stations in Omist have already been taken by TCF and I believe a third is either taken by UNL or will be within days, once sov kicks in. That leaves 2 stations that BoB has taken from RSF from the beginning of the war in the south, D2EZ and 66-, both of which are being heavily fought over right now.

9-9 and XGH in particular were taken both by sieging BoB POSes and counter-spamming larges. Any kind of POS battle report would show that BoB has been nearly unable to defend their own POSes when they come out of reinforced, while also being unable to take out RSF POSes when they come out of reinforced. This same kind of warfare is going on in D2EZ and 66-.

This is not to say that BoB is dead, nor that anyone really expects them to failure cascade back to Delve within the next week.

Since the leveling of the battlefield, BoB has continued to lose ground. They have won particular battles, and almost always have a better kill:death ratio. However, kill:death ratio is meaningless unless it weakens your enemy's morale or outpaces their logistics, production, or wealth, which it has yet to do.

To conclude: BoB has not lost yet. But they are losing, at the moment. That does not exclude the possibility that they will regroup or call in more allies and stall the push into Omist; however, the only way to analyze the current situation and come to any other conclusion than "BoB is losing" is by looking purely at kill:death ratio, which is utterly meaningless.

Also: guys guys MY GIRLFRIEND

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