Originally by: Murina

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Originally by: Orangir

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Originally by: Wigglytuff

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Then don't talk about how much other alliances suck due to not having allies to keep them alive. My point was Goonswarm wouldn't be where they are without said allies.

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And my point was that FATAL wouldn't be anywhere at all without MC because they're a terrible alliance, whereas Goonswarm can actually accomplish some tasks on its own. (see: retaking of 9-9 and XGH)

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Comments about FATAL or any other alliance being good or bad by the blobswarm is a joke.

How would a member of a alliance that prides itself on totaly out blobing to take a system and or crashing the node to defend a system even begin to know what makes a good alliance. We would wipe the floor with you if the numbers were anywhere near close or even 2-1 and so would any other alliance in eve.

Goon are by far the worst alliance in eve and it would be a better place without you and your enjoyment ruining and unimaginitive style of play.

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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean

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Originally by: Relaria Hossin

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Edited by: Relaria Hossin on 31/07/2007 19:34:16
Tactics are not limited to how well you fit and fly your personal ship. Tactics encompasses all aspects of warfare including the gathering and organizing of warm bodies to do the fighting.

If you are being out-blobbed as you put it, there are many solutions including but not limited to recruiting more people to fight for your side.

Goonswarm's "secret" to it's numbers is actually not a secret at all. The main source of pilots are people who have never even played EVE before. We recruit these new players, give them ships, move them to 0.0 space and begin teaching them how to be a useful pilot in PvP from their very first day as a member.

The result of this method of recruitment is easily apparent if you take a look at how Goonswarm has started and how far it's members have come. We have people who were flying frigates in Syndicate who now field Dreadnoughts for our capital fleet. Throughout their entire time in EVE these players have been in the deep end of EVE, PvPing with players who have been playing for months and even years longer than they have.

If you're being outnumbered by people who are recruiting more people to the game and training them from newbies, the obvious solution is to step up recruitment yourselves.

I fully endorse people recruiting more newbies into EVE regardless what corporation is doing it because in the end the winner will be EVE itself.

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I agree that tactics cover more than fitting your ship or having loads of skill points but sorry bud gaining noobs using them like lemmings and calling it a tactic does not make you skilled in anything.

Read the long winded post about it your buddy put up especialy this part il translate for ppl who are finding it a bit of a hard read.

"If we strip the combat of all modifications which it may undergo according to its immediate purpose and the circumstances from which it proceeds, lastly if we set aside the valour of the troops, because that is a given quantity, then there remains only the bare conception of the combat, that is a combat without form, in which we distinguish nothing but the number of the combatants".

This number will therefore determine victory.

Translated-

Basical he says that if you take skill, tactical knowledge and all other deciding factors out of the fight the fella with the greater numbers will win.

WELL DUH!!! LOL

Here is another bit i think is relavant as well;

"In such an aspect we grant, that the superiority in numbers is the most important factor in the result of a combat, only it must be sufficiently great to be a counterpoise to all the other co-operating circumstances".

If you read the full post you will see that the "co-operating circumstances"are tactical and strategic know how, at a personal level and as a whole.

Translated-

He is saying that numbers will only win if you bring enough to overcome the tactical skill know how and other abilitys of your enemy.

So in conclusion-

Bragging about your ability to put together a multiple alliance version of the lemmings leap and claiming it as a your tactical stroke of genius is in fact a blinding example of your total lack of strategic or tactical knowledge. And a fine example of your attempt to overwhelm BOB's skill and tactical knowledge by sheer numbers.

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