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King GeorgeV
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Posted - 2007.07.29 17:33:00 -
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havnt read the rest of the post. but to the op, yes u can have ur 8th turret, if i get my 7th back on the cane.
deal? beautiful.
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Storm Strike
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Posted - 2007.07.29 18:36:00 -
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But your hurricanes turrets are still balanced even missing one , harbinger is lopsided.
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The RepoMan
Caldari Red Horizon Inc Red Horizon
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Posted - 2007.07.29 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: The RepoMan on 29/07/2007 19:29:49 Edit holy quotes batman, editing out the text.
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: The RepoMan Edited by: The RepoMan on 29/07/2007 17:01:37
Originally by: Zkillz kun
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: The RepoMan [harbie owns]
[wtf?]
[i was gonna say the same thing lol]
[rtfm noobs]
You nano-fit a Harbinger? Seriously? The thing is both slow and heavy. There is no way you should be able to keep those ships out of web range. And in order to do that you need to be shooting Scroch anyway, which means you are shooting into a base 30% resist against this supposed hurricane which cant kill you.
The Harbinger is a fine ship, and doesnt really need any changing. But an 8th turret would be nice for asthetics. That or 6 turrets and a double damage bonus[in exchange for less drones]
I never said nano. It would probably work, though you'd lose out on the versatility of the ship. And t2 ammo is misused 99% of the time, if I was going to nano it, i sure as hell wouldnt be using scorch, except when they mwd at me or if it's a bs. Thankfully there's no launcher on the damn thing so even with the crystal change bug you can still swap ammo fairly quickly with liberal use of ctrl-r. If you're packing t2 ammo only on a amarr ship, you fail at life, big time.
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.07.29 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: Goumindong on 29/07/2007 19:53:25
Originally by: The RepoMan
I never said nano. It would probably work, though you'd lose out on the versatility of the ship. And t2 ammo is misused 99% of the time, if I was going to nano it, i sure as hell wouldnt be using scorch, except when they mwd at me or if it's a bs. Thankfully there's no launcher on the damn thing so even with the crystal change bug you can still swap ammo fairly quickly with liberal use of ctrl-r. If you're packing t2 ammo only on a amarr ship, you fail at life, big time.
You dont really have any clue what you are talking about. The Harb cannot own similarly fit comparable battlecruisers. Its just plain not fast enough and hits against their strong resists. It will take a Brutix, but it wont take a myrmidon. It wont take a Hurricane. The Myrmidon is simply too strong in either a gank or nos fit. And the Hurricane just has the tanking advantage.
I know, when i was able to get online i flew a Harb all the time[FMP+1600 plate usualy] and it was pretty resiliant with decent damage. But it wasnt going to beat a Myrm or Hurricane that was properly setup no matter what crystals you were using.[And the plate+fmp is a better setup than the HP when attacking single ships]
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.29 20:14:00 -
[35]
I'd settle for some more grid/CPU, tbh.
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Arana Tellen
Gallente The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2007.07.30 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Zkillz kun
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: The RepoMan kind of silly to compare the two, harbie cant fit t2 heavy pulse setup without severely sacrificing in some other aspect.
The damage difference is only a few % with comparable setups. And gank ships are absolutely ********, lets not add more of em. Also if you're trying to use heavy pulses for gallente-esque ganking, you really need to find another game or invest in a clue. Well piloted harbie will decimate any normal fit bc in standard combat, and it's sure as hell not because it does more damage.
Man What? The only Teir 2 BC that a harb should stand a chance against is the Drake, because the Drake shield tanks. Hurricane will beat it as will the terribly overpowered Myrmidon.
i was gonna say the same thing lol
Myrm overpowered? All you need is light drones and you can reduce the myrmadon's damage to 0  ---------------------------------
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.07.30 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Arana Tellen
Myrm overpowered? All you need is light drones and you can reduce the myrmadon's damage to 0 
No, you cant
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Zosimos Sabina
Tritanium Workers Union Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.30 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Arana Tellen
Myrm overpowered? All you need is light drones and you can reduce the myrmadon's damage to 0 
Only if Myrmidon pilot can't hit the "Scoop drones to bay" selection on mouse menu.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.30 01:42:00 -
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Well to be fair, if you can keep away from the myrmidon (arond 20 km) takes logn time for his ogres to rescoop. So you can reaally cripple his dps. Problem is that for that you cripple your also. SO the best you can get is a draw. Of course if you have 2 webs, its bye bye mirmy drones
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.30 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: The RepoMan kind of silly to compare the two, harbie cant fit t2 heavy pulse setup without severely sacrificing in some other aspect.
The damage difference is only a few % with comparable setups. And gank ships are absolutely ********, lets not add more of em. Also if you're trying to use heavy pulses for gallente-esque ganking, you really need to find another game or invest in a clue. Well piloted harbie will decimate any normal fit bc in standard combat, and it's sure as hell not because it does more damage.
Man What? The only Teir 2 BC that a harb should stand a chance against is the Drake, because the Drake shield tanks. Hurricane will beat it as will the terribly overpowered Myrmidon.
I don't see the problem.
Originally by: Goumindong it is at the point where it is impossible to determine whether or not you are trolling or if you area really out of your freaking mind.
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.07.30 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: The RepoMan kind of silly to compare the two, harbie cant fit t2 heavy pulse setup without severely sacrificing in some other aspect.
The damage difference is only a few % with comparable setups. And gank ships are absolutely ********, lets not add more of em. Also if you're trying to use heavy pulses for gallente-esque ganking, you really need to find another game or invest in a clue. Well piloted harbie will decimate any normal fit bc in standard combat, and it's sure as hell not because it does more damage.
Man What? The only Teir 2 BC that a harb should stand a chance against is the Drake, because the Drake shield tanks. Hurricane will beat it as will the terribly overpowered Myrmidon.
I don't see the problem.
Its becasue you cant read. I didnt say that the Harb wasnt good, i said it wasnt going to win against any of the t2 battlecruisers but the drake.
Or are you trying to say the Myrmidon isnt overpowered?
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.07.30 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Arana Tellen
Myrm overpowered? All you need is light drones and you can reduce the myrmadon's damage to 0 
Any myrm pilot who's not half a tard will 1) fit damps and 2) rescoop his drones.
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2007.07.30 05:15:00 -
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I'm gonna put it simply.
Boost amarr \0/
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2007.07.30 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: Arana Tellen
Myrm overpowered? All you need is light drones and you can reduce the myrmadon's damage to 0 
Any myrm pilot who's not half a tard will 1) fit damps and 2) rescoop his drones.
or 3. the harb will be dead by the time he kills one ogre 
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.30 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: The RepoMan kind of silly to compare the two, harbie cant fit t2 heavy pulse setup without severely sacrificing in some other aspect.
The damage difference is only a few % with comparable setups. And gank ships are absolutely ********, lets not add more of em. Also if you're trying to use heavy pulses for gallente-esque ganking, you really need to find another game or invest in a clue. Well piloted harbie will decimate any normal fit bc in standard combat, and it's sure as hell not because it does more damage.
Man What? The only Teir 2 BC that a harb should stand a chance against is the Drake, because the Drake shield tanks. Hurricane will beat it as will the terribly overpowered Myrmidon.
I don't see the problem.
Its becasue you cant read. I didnt say that the Harb wasnt good, i said it wasnt going to win against any of the t2 battlecruisers but the drake.
Or are you trying to say the Myrmidon isnt overpowered?
Every Myrm I've ever soloed/killed wasn't overpowered. Never been killed by a Myrm on TQ either. Anyone who dies to a Myrm 1v1 must not have a clue, or is possibly flying a Brutix.
Originally by: Goumindong it is at the point where it is impossible to determine whether or not you are trolling or if you area really out of your freaking mind.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.30 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: Arana Tellen
Myrm overpowered? All you need is light drones and you can reduce the myrmadon's damage to 0 
Any myrm pilot who's not half a tard will 1) fit damps and 2) rescoop his drones.
if you have nto read what i said... if you are at 20 km form the myrmidon he cannot rescoop them fast. Anf if he even so keep trying to rescoop it.. they will pass 99% of time in transit... no damage.and there goes until someoen looses patience. BTw, even with 2 dampeners is really fast to lock an ogre at that condition, because to run 20-22 km he will engage MWD. BEleive-me i 've done it.. its a very boring fight where no one can kill each other if the myrmidon is carefull
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.07.30 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: Arana Tellen
Myrm overpowered? All you need is light drones and you can reduce the myrmadon's damage to 0 
Any myrm pilot who's not half a tard will 1) fit damps and 2) rescoop his drones.
if you have nto read what i said... if you are at 20 km form the myrmidon he cannot rescoop them fast. Anf if he even so keep trying to rescoop it.. they will pass 99% of time in transit... no damage.and there goes until someoen looses patience. BTw, even with 2 dampeners is really fast to lock an ogre at that condition, because to run 20-22 km he will engage MWD. BEleive-me i 've done it.. its a very boring fight where no one can kill each other if the myrmidon is carefull
How do you stay 20km from him without him running away?
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.07.30 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Every Myrm I've ever soloed/killed wasn't overpowered. Never been killed by a Myrm on TQ either. Anyone who dies to a Myrm 1v1 must not have a clue, or is possibly flying a Brutix.
In your megathron? Yea, you have a pretty good chance of winning in a Megathron. In your Harbinger which you cant fly, no, you havent. I mean ****, aparently you fly every ship in the game all t2d out.
Stop trolling
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.30 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: Arana Tellen
Myrm overpowered? All you need is light drones and you can reduce the myrmadon's damage to 0 
Any myrm pilot who's not half a tard will 1) fit damps and 2) rescoop his drones.
if you have nto read what i said... if you are at 20 km form the myrmidon he cannot rescoop them fast. Anf if he even so keep trying to rescoop it.. they will pass 99% of time in transit... no damage.and there goes until someoen looses patience. BTw, even with 2 dampeners is really fast to lock an ogre at that condition, because to run 20-22 km he will engage MWD. BEleive-me i 've done it.. its a very boring fight where no one can kill each other if the myrmidon is carefull
How do you stay 20km from him without him running away?
with a 24km scram? daaaa or you didn knew they are common now?
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.30 18:10:00 -
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the harbi can have 8 lasers the same second my cane can have 8 autocannons
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Dialorah
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Posted - 2007.07.30 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz the harbi can have 8 lasers the same second my cane can have 8 autocannons
6 turrets (25% dmg + RoF = 10 effectively, same as harbi would be with 8 + its 25% dmg bonus) PLUS 2 launchers.
Hell, how about nerf down another laser turret, so it'd have just those nice 6 on it's wing-stubs, and give it 2 (unbonused) launchers instead? That would at least remove the... ugliness of the 1 stray turret on an otherwise beautiful ship.
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