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Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.07.27 07:41:00 - [1] Back in the day (read 2 years or so ago) I used to hang in 0.0 and low sec and do my thing in relative peace. I took a break from EVE for about a year then returned and have mostly hugged hi sec since. Currently living in overcrowded Caldari space my occasional jaunts into low sec just reinforced my notion of not wanting to bother with it. But, I figured, I might be wrong and endeavored to give low sec a serious look. I hopped in a CovOps frig and made an extensive search of low sec systems (searched Amarr, Gallente and Minmatar space). I specifically looked for deep (i.e not border) systems several jumps in and off of common routes. I looked for low "Jumps in the last hour" systems with low kill rates and few if any people in the system. I also opted, where possible, for systems with only two jump gates (or better a dead-end system) to minimize drive through traffic. Mind you I am looking at these places as a miner/industrialist and not a PvPer. I realize that other players will roam by from time-to-time and fully expect to see pirates on occasion and that's fine. I was not prepared for how many pirates I found however even in these back water systems. While certainly not as abundant as what I see in most of Caldari space they were nonetheless fairly common. The most time I made it in one system without seeing a pirate come by was 30 minutes and most stopped to come find me (in many cases I was the only person in system and no stations for them to dock...nor a POS in their case as while waiting I surveyed all the moons to see whose POS were there and it wasn't theirs). Dunno...maybe they stopped to rat but somehow I doubt it. I chatted with a few and all were normal and good to talk with despite knowing they'd shoot me on sight. However, as a miner/industrialist I cannot ever see it being worth trying to set down roots out there. This is not a whine, I fully expect pirates and all that comes with it and the occasional fight or flight from them makes things interesting. But not so interesting that I want to deal with it every 30 minutes (or less) while mining. Is there anywhere out there that is relatively peaceful? Note I said "relatively"...again this is not a whine and I expect pirates as part of the package? I am not suggesting someplace they only show once a week...every few hours would be livable...but every 30 minutes (or less)?
flashfresh Independent Pilots	Posted - 2007.07.27 08:09:00 - [2] Hi there, Pirates are not everywhere but most tend to roam as low-sec is a bit sparse and one needs to move about to make isk. However, I do know of some areas that are completely dead. I have been sitting there (actually on MSN and needed a quiet spot to park myself) in these systems and haven't seen anyone for hours. All I am saying is that there are systems that match your criteria but then again, EVE-Online is a MMORPG not a single player game. Another point, if you happen to be the ONLY one in local, most peeps like me would pause and look for you. Best be in a low-sec system that is relatively busy...safety in numbers and all that. F ---------------------------------------------- ôMe, I'm dishonest, and you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you have to watch out for...'ö --------
Kermis Caldari The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.07.27 08:14:00 - [3] That's a bit of a problem nowdays. Pirates are everywhere and targets aren't. There are a few reasons to this. For example the rewards to be had as a miner in lowsec are very low. It's alot safer and alot more profitable to mine scordite in highsec than plag in lowsec. The rat bounties suck aswell. You need a good setup frig or a cruiser to rat in, and the chances they get shot are wa too high compared to the bounties on the rats. And other than mining and ratting, there are really no reasons to be in lowsec, and those reasons mostly suck. If you want big bounties or nice ore not found in highsec, just go to 0.0 and talk to an alliance.
Le Bon Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.27 09:46:00 - [4] Without reading your wall of text as i've not perticulary woken up yet. But i find domain is more populated with anti-pie's then pirates. When i used to run through thier with my carebear alt i screamed to myself several times seeing unscouted haulers at gates.. was a sad time to not be in combat ships.. but i guess its a good region for the carebears. = Ninja Smack Alt
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.07.27 10:05:00 - [5] Originally by: Le Bon Without reading your wall of text... I forgot this is the pirate section of the forums where you are supposed to use small words and not write more than two sentences for the short attention span folk. And hey...I used paragraphs and punctuation and proper spelling (mostly) and capitalization. Not your typical wall of text I'd say.
Lord Zoran Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.07.27 10:33:00 - [6] Originally by: Kermis That's a bit of a problem nowdays. Pirates are everywhere and targets aren't. There are a few reasons to this. For example the rewards to be had as a miner in lowsec are very low. It's alot safer and alot more profitable to mine scordite in highsec than plag in lowsec. The rat bounties suck aswell. You need a good setup frig or a cruiser to rat in, and the chances they get shot are wa too high compared to the bounties on the rats. And other than mining and ratting, there are really no reasons to be in lowsec, and those reasons mostly suck. If you want big bounties or nice ore not found in highsec, just go to 0.0 and talk to an alliance. what they said tbh now that theres a lack of targets its getting more of pirates vs pirates --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!!
Jvxta	Posted - 2007.07.27 11:09:00 - [7] You also have to take into consideration that most people will have a low sec. stat wether they are pirates or not in low-sec. To guard miners etc. most combat oriented players will shoot ppl rather indiscriminatly when on guard-duty. Hence that it might appear that there are pirates in all of low-sec when infact they might be rather friendly chaps. Not to say that there aren't alot of pirates, but if you start communicating with ppl in local, that seem friendly, they might let you live in a semi-controlled environment in lowsec.
Halkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.27 11:24:00 - [8] Originally by: Le Bon Without reading your wall of text as i've not perticulary woken up yet. But i find domain is more populated with anti-pie's then pirates. When i used to run through thier with my carebear alt i screamed to myself several times seeing unscouted haulers at gates.. was a sad time to not be in combat ships.. but i guess its a good region for the carebears. seeing as though you seeem to struggle with words/letters, can anyone do this in a painting by numbers format? Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
Vaedian GER Excidium.	Posted - 2007.07.27 11:31:00 - [9] Originally by: Kermis That's a bit of a problem nowdays. Pirates are everywhere and targets aren't. There are a few reasons to this. For example the rewards to be had as a miner in lowsec are very low. It's alot safer and alot more profitable to mine scordite in highsec than plag in lowsec. The rat bounties suck aswell. You need a good setup frig or a cruiser to rat in, and the chances they get shot are wa too high compared to the bounties on the rats. And other than mining and ratting, there are really no reasons to be in lowsec, and those reasons mostly suck. If you want big bounties or nice ore not found in highsec, just go to 0.0 and talk to an alliance. /signed CCP completly ****** up the Low Security Space, especially with the new regions which made mining in Low Sec as profitable as ratting in Jita. The Exploration thingy is another waste of time. I tried it a few times and omg found complex like scenarios with like 4-5 50k Cruisers in the end. Good job guys, but hey, station walking and your Eve TV Comedy show are much more important than caring about the actual gameplay.
Jormunrek Amarr Radio Free Aridia	Posted - 2007.07.27 11:31:00 - [10] Another possible option are the alliances that don't follow a nbsi policy. There are still a few left out there. They are not completely safe, but let's face it, completely safe doesn't really exist anyway. Just make sure to send an evemail to the their respective diplomatic people to see if you can come into their backyard and get standings sorted out. This will also help you to identify their local pirate corps that are well known to them. If you don't mind being a team player check some of the office renters in the low sec you are scouting out, you might get lucky and find a local operation that you could become a part of. Most renters will probably not be real locals but you might get a couple leads that way. With the age of the game you are likely to find trawlers pretty much anywhere in low sec looking for an easy mark. Jorm Me? I'll be spinning wax and watching the ships go by. =)

Engelsmutter The Blue Omega Gene	Posted - 2007.07.27 11:45:00 - [11] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Le Bon Without reading your wall of text... I forgot this is the pirate section of the forums where you are supposed to use small words and not write more than two sentences for the short attention span folk. And hey...I used paragraphs and punctuation and proper spelling (mostly) and capitalization. Not your typical wall of text I'd say. dewd.. wait.. w00t? Eh-m000 out
Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2007.07.27 11:59:00 - [12] You could always try Hagilur...Hagilur is totally and completely safe, there are no pirates there at all. I guarantee it.
Siobhan Ni Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.07.27 12:18:00 - [13] There are plenty of low-sec systems that have very few people, and indeed no pirates. The problem though is that once many people populate these systems the pirates come hunting. Pirates tend to hang around places where they're most likely to find victims.
DRMALIKIA United Technologies	Posted - 2007.07.27 13:10:00 - [14] Edited by: DRMALIKIA on 27/07/2007 13:10:51 I think it is more a function of scouting out systems at various times of day. I know several low sec areas I have setup shop in the past are busy during prime time hunting hours. After that is over with, they are vacant for hours on end. You find enough systems like that, you have hours of free time to mine, rat, or just fly around in circles. Before you setup shop anywhere just sit around and check things out in your covert ops ship. Warping while cloaked will let you get all your bookmarks in place for whatever you are going to do, set up SS, watch the locals and see what they do. Document times people are active, adjust your schedule around those. Was plenty of days I would get up early on a saturday adn have free rain over the system for about 4 hrs before people start showing up, then I would just move 7-10 jumps away to another system dead for the next 3 hours. Works like a charm, just invest your "Spying" time up front. Or, just join the pirates, they need ore too you know! Originally by: CrestoftheStars if you don't bother to read the tread could you pls keep your comment out of it ? please:)
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2007.07.27 13:43:00 - [15] I have found that at the right time of day/week even normally dangerous systems are quite safe. With that said, most pirates do tend to scout through several systems looking for targets. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Le Bon Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.27 14:10:00 - [16] Originally by: Halkin Originally by: Le Bon Without reading your wall of text as i've not perticulary woken up yet. But i find domain is more populated with anti-pie's then pirates. When i used to run through thier with my carebear alt i screamed to myself several times seeing unscouted haulers at gates.. was a sad time to not be in combat ships.. but i guess its a good region for the carebears. seeing as though you seeem to struggle with words/letters, can anyone do this in a painting by numbers format? Diaf. = Ninja Smack Alt
vile56 Nubs. D-L	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:41:00 - [17] look around placid there are always a couple nice remote systems there -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sig removed. Is in appropriate for the forums. mail us with a link if you want to know why -Kaemonn ([email protected])
Anton March Yiotul Fighters	Posted - 2007.07.27 17:06:00 - [18] Back before I decided shooting stuff was more fun than not shooting stuff, I used to hang out in low-sec Genesis. This was 8-10 months ago, but I can't imagine it's got too much more crowded. I used to have to leave the reigon just to buy anything. There wasn't even ammo within 10 jumps of most places.
K'reemy G'udness Delicious	Posted - 2007.07.27 19:19:00 - [19] Originally by: Halkin Originally by: Le Bon Without reading your wall of text as i've not perticulary woken up yet. But i find domain is more populated with anti-pie's then pirates. When i used to run through thier with my carebear alt i screamed to myself several times seeing unscouted haulers at gates.. was a sad time to not be in combat ships.. but i guess its a good region for the carebears. seeing as though you seeem to struggle with words/letters, can anyone do this in a painting by numbers format? Yes, I can. Sincerely, K'reemy ---
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.07.27 19:57:00 - [20] A general rule of thumb: Pirates are afraid of 0.0, most because Alliances kick the ever loving crap out of them if they decide to hang out in "claimed" systems.

K'reemy G'udness Delicious	Posted - 2007.07.27 20:08:00 - [21] Originally by: Derovius Vaden A general rule of thumb: Pirates are afraid of 0.0, most because Alliances kick the ever loving crap out of them if they decide to hang out in "claimed" systems. Oh, boobhead, you are so wrong. You should come to PF-346. Sincerely, K'reemy ---
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.07.27 20:20:00 - [22] Originally by: K'reemy G'udness Originally by: Derovius Vaden A general rule of thumb: Pirates are afraid of 0.0, most because Alliances kick the ever loving crap out of them if they decide to hang out in "claimed" systems. Oh, boobhead, you are so wrong. You should come to PF-346. Your sig has officially given me nightmares.
Johncrab Minmatar Typo Corp	Posted - 2007.07.27 20:45:00 - [23] Pirates hang mostly near high sec. Systems over 5 or 6 jumps from a high sec system, should be empty most of the time. Pirates need to be where the targets fly by. Originally by: ry ry gatecamping is just PvP mining.
Jak Silverheart Minmatar	Posted - 2007.07.28 04:10:00 - [24] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Le Bon Without reading your wall of text... I forgot this is the pirate section of the forums where you are supposed to use small words and not write more than two sentences for the short attention span folk. And hey...I used paragraphs and punctuation and proper spelling (mostly) and capitalization. Not your typical wall of text I'd say. sarcasm Sir may I remind you this is C & P, we are well aware of the requirements, such as the ones you pointed out. But can you please reframe from using big words such as "punctuation" and "capitalization" since they exceed our 9 letter per word limit for this forum. Originally by: Scordite Who was it that said that flying minmatar is kinda like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an uzi?
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.07.28 07:16:00 - [25] There are no pirates in Jita Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
Balthasar Moreq	Posted - 2007.07.28 14:11:00 - [26] As has been said above, allot of it depends on time of day. At peak times you are pretty much gonna bump into pirates (and again as has been said, they like to roam around allot), however if you try 09:00 - 12:00 gmt on a weekday, EVE can be pretty quiet then.
Tregaron Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2007.07.28 14:36:00 - [27] Edited by: Tregaron on 28/07/2007 14:39:08 when i first started playing eve i based myself in taff was a good 7 jumps into low sec and leads 2 a dead end system. as being a noob at the time i wanted to get used to low sec i payed a visit a while back looking for prey and bumped into an alliance camping the gate luckly at -6.6 i don't go low sec roaming in anything other than vaga or crow. so quick mwd in tha crow doing 7k m/s i started toying with this alliance attacking the sniper rokh i then headed off not having support or firepower to solo a rokh in my crow. best fun is gate camping old man star for some reason having spent 3 months ther with a pirate corp it's a place i'll always come up with for gd pirate spot. [/url]
William DeMeo Gallente Serial Killers Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.28 16:04:00 - [28] Avoid all lowsec systems close to highsec as they are the most populated ones. Find an empty system (most are if they're not right next to a highsec system). Just watch local and go to an SS if a pirate comes in the dead system. Consider everyone a target, most people, bad sec status or not will have a shot at you I've found. If you just watch local and have the scanner up you really can't be killed, remember to stay aligned when in the SS though. And if you see a cov ops showing up on scan or if you find a probe, keep warping around. If you wanna overdo it and make it completely 100% safe just fit a cloak on your ship and have a friend/alt spy in a pod when heading back to empire Now thats overdoing it but atleast you won't get killed. Yarr
Onwyn Orbatsuu International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.28 22:23:00 - [29] 0.0
Petrothian Tong Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.28 22:27:00 - [30] Tons of other pies to shoot at =P -Siggi- ""PvP" isn't only direct person to person combat, it can be very indirect. Selling an item on the market which somebody buys from you is resulting in another guy not getting a sale." Oveur



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