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MultiSpec Caldari The Goods	Posted - 2007.07.27 15:42:00 - [1] will sparta be gotten rid of by tri + mates? what will happen to sparta pets praesidium liberatis? fallen souls poorly protected outpost in fade next? no flames please just replies from people in the know from the alliances in question. thanks.
Brunswick2 coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.27 15:57:00 - [2] Originally by: MultiSpec what will happen to sparta pets praesidium liberatis? praes aren't sparta pets... they're +tive to us and fly with us a lot O RLY? - Kreul
Wraithstorm Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.07.27 15:58:00 - [3] The Sparta pets that you refer to are actually TRI friends (IIRC). To answer your question, Deklein is probably a pvpers wet dream right now. No POS warfare ATM, and just good old fashioned pew pew. The scale has yet to tip to one side. My personal opinion anyways
acompton Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.27 15:59:00 - [4] I think next we will be selling eve-spellcheck programs so that people can get the region name right...
Paddlefoot Aeon Neogen Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:02:00 - [5] Only time will tell if we shall fall. And to clear something up... Sparta has no pets. We have residents who, provided they are willing to help defend, are welcomed into our space. We charge no fees for access... and the only tax to which they are subjected is the tax in the refinery... which is the same for them as for Sparta pilots. And Praesidium Libertatis is no resident... they show up as red and are therefore KOS. Please, post with your main. Best regards, Paddlefoot Aeon Diplomat, Sparta Alliance -----------------------------------------------
Zesuth Cosa Nostra Inc. Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:14:00 - [6] The original poster seems particularly well-informed in all matters concerning the region.
Koi Yokuma Praetorian BlackGuard Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:29:00 - [7] Edited by: Koi Yokuma on 27/07/2007 16:30:46 Originally by: Zesuth The original poster seems particularly well-informed in all matters concerning the region. To answer the OP, everyone here is gonna stop the fighting and bake cupcakes together.
little mang	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:35:00 - [8] i heard alot of sparta pilots quit? loss of a mothership has got to be demoralizing, the question remains does tri wish to conquer and thus have to fuel more pos's for outposts? If they wanted more area there is little doubt they could take it but it is going to be a logistical nightmare. In my opinion tri will just continue to farm the opposing alliances for pew pew and forget to POS spam that said storm armada and sparta are going to have a hard time existing with constant warefare and little chance to recoup losses. How long before Sparta turncoats again? Btw anyone know what youwhat's stance is i've heard they set tri to red?
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:43:00 - [9] Edited by: Deschenus Maximus on 27/07/2007 16:43:57 I'm not very current on northern affairs, but going about this logically: 1)Does Tri want more space? 2)Does Tri NEED more space? 3)Does Tri view its neighbours as a threat? If the answer is yes to any of the above, then Tri, I would assume, would continue pushing North. If not, then I would surmise that they will be content with pew pewing with their neighbours, as a)fueling POSes is teh suck b)having a large territory makes it harder to control and defend and c)knocking out your neighbours means that you have to go further to find pew pew, which sucks. Anyways, just the 2 cents of a southerner. Have fun up there! EDIT: I fail at English.
CyberChick Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:46:00 - [10] Originally by: little mang How long before Sparta turncoats again? I thought they just went neutral, but still set bob as negative.
Armaan Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:47:00 - [11] Originally by: little mang Btw anyone know what youwhat's stance is i've heard they set tri to red? TheyWhat?!?
Derek Shmawesome We Know Derek Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:50:00 - [12] Originally by: Deschenus Maximus I'm not very current on northern affairs, but going about this logically: 1)Does Tri want more space? 2)Does Tri NEED more space? 3)Does Tri view its neighbours as a threat? I think you missed the most and maybe only important question: Does Tri want more pew pew? To me it doesn't look like they feel or fear being threatened or running out of space. They do it for the lulz in the first place. But that's just my humble opinion.
El'Presedante Alcoholic White Trash	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:52:00 - [13] Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon Edited by: Paddlefoot Aeon on 27/07/2007 16:14:33 Only time will tell if we shall fall or stand. Best regards, Paddlefoot Aeon Diplomat, Sparta Alliance My majic 8 ball say's SquishÖ 40+sparta mostly BS's, 2 carriers, 1xpos, 0x guns vs 7 hacs 2 command ships and a couple of bc's and inty's, and only 1 kill shown for that engagement. a commoroant with ginormous cohonus!! this does not look like an alliance with a will to fight or defend. more a watered down xelas, but without BoB to rescue them. I am wondering if the Leadership of Sparta is staring to think, "Maybe we should not have turned coat on our friends in the north. maybe those BoB prommisses of protection and support were not real " -------------------------------------------- I may or may not be leading this adventure. either way, it'll be something amazing to see.
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:56:00 - [14] Originally by: Derek Shmawesome I think you missed the most and maybe only important question: Does Tri want more pew pew? To me it doesn't look like they feel or fear being threatened or running out of space. They do it for the lulz in the first place. But that's just my humble opinion. I didn't forget it; I naturally assumed that the answer was yes. Now, what I meant is: are they going to try taking more space? I don't think anyone's going to go on claiming that Tri doesn't moar pew pew.
Habraka Eve Defence Force Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:59:00 - [15] Lol, you must be really good informed if you're calling us Sparta pets.
FubarSF Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.27 17:02:00 - [16] Originally by: El'Presedante Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon Edited by: Paddlefoot Aeon on 27/07/2007 16:14:33 Only time will tell if we shall fall or stand. Best regards, Paddlefoot Aeon Diplomat, Sparta Alliance My majic 8 ball say's SquishÖ 40+sparta mostly BS's, 2 carriers, 1xpos, 0x guns vs 7 hacs 2 command ships and a couple of bc's and inty's, and only 1 kill shown for that engagement. a commoroant with ginormous cohonus!! this does not look like an alliance with a will to fight or defend. more a watered down xelas, but without BoB to rescue them. I am wondering if the Leadership of Sparta is staring to think, "Maybe we should not have turned coat on our friends in the north. maybe those BoB prommisses of protection and support were not real " Don't be harse.. They de-synced when we landed on the PoS Just like in their cap yard system
Trak'anon	Posted - 2007.07.27 17:07:00 - [17] Originally by: acompton I think next we will be selling eve-spellcheck programs so that people can get the region name right... vote for renaming the region into Dereklein
Paddlefoot Aeon Neogen Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.27 17:13:00 - [18] Edited by: Paddlefoot Aeon on 27/07/2007 17:15:50 Originally by: CyberChick Originally by: little mang How long before Sparta turncoats again? I thought they just went neutral, but still set bob as negative. K... for the last time... we never "turncoated", as so many like to say. Fact #1: We were forward deployed in Fountain, shooting residents and pets. Fact #2: YouWhat changed sides, and things started to go badly in Fade. Fact #3: Sparta came to CZD at D2's request, and later D2 gave Sparta both CZD and UEJ Fact #4: Sparta assisted D2 against MC and friends in Fade, losing billions in ships and capital ships in the process. Fact #5: When Fade fell, Sparta was helping FLA, a supposed friend of D2, defend their portion of Dek (where ESA lives now). D2 did not come and help FLA. Fact #6: When FLA fell, we realized 2 things. First... Sparta was next. Second... we knew that D2 wouldn't come support us in defense of our space... because they had not come to FLA's aid either. Fact #7: We decided we would not fight for D2 when D2 wouldn't even fight for themselves, or for their Friends. We would not be D2's meatshield. Fact #8: Sparta announced that we were withdrawing from active combat. This means that we would be keeping all our standings... even letting people dock at our stations if they wanted to fly and strike at MC. However... people didn't read the announcement carefully enough, and they assumed Sparta had changed sides. Having the Eve-influence map (compiled by a pilot in a BOB resident corp, by the way) show us as part of the Blue-Bob-Blob didn't help, either Fact #9: Alliances from the northern block reset Sparta to neutral or hostile, without telling us... we still had them blue. Fact #10: After friendly fire problems, we announced there would be a standings reset, and asked that anyone who wanted blue standings contact us. MM and RZR and the remainder of the north didn't contact us... and they continued to run gank squads through our space. So, we assumed them hostile. Let me assure you all that, through none of this, has Sparta set BOB anything but red, helped BOB in any way, or supported BOB's goals. Regardless of who we set red and who we NAP... BOB will never be anything but red to this alliance. Hope this clears things up for you all. And a personal side note, it never ceases to surprise me how people seem to focus on Sparta and our supposed side-switching... but never seem to remember that had YouWhat not switched sides... D2 might still be in the north and Fountain, plus other regions, could be BOB and bob pet free. If you are looking for people to hate in the north, I can't stop you from looking Sparta's way. Just take the blinders off and remember how we all ended up in this situation in the first place. Oh... and again... please post with your mains. Cheers, Paddlefoot Aeon Diplomat - Sparta Alliance (edit for spelling and grammatical corrections) -----------------------------------------------
Djerin Obsidian Exploration Services	Posted - 2007.07.27 18:33:00 - [19] Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon Having the Eve-influence map (compiled by a pilot in a BOB resident corp, by the way) show us as part of the Blue-Bob-Blob didn't help, either I think you're mixing that up. The influence map isn't compiled by a pilot of a BOB resident corp afaik. I think you meant the other map created by Joshua. I was a resident of the old north. I don't know if you care but i think what some people are somewhat angry about is that you made a deal with the MC so that you didn't lose your space. I dont call you turncoats because of that. But you have to admit it's not like they shot you without any reason.
Myz Toyou Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.27 18:57:00 - [20] -5/10 just for your poor knowlege about the situation. We only a Industrial Alliance that want to mine his Veld in peace, is that so hard to understand ? CYVOK > All you station jockies better get out their and start killing these idiots
Paddlefoot Aeon Neogen Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.27 19:00:00 - [21] Originally by: Djerin Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon Having the Eve-influence map (compiled by a pilot in a BOB resident corp, by the way) show us as part of the Blue-Bob-Blob didn't help, either I think you're mixing that up. The influence map isn't compiled by a pilot of a BOB resident corp afaik. I think you meant the other map created by Joshua. I was a resident of the old north. I don't know if you care but i think what some people are somewhat angry about is that you made a deal with the MC so that you didn't lose your space. I dont call you turncoats because of that. But you have to admit it's not like they shot you without any reason. MC's contract was to take out D2..... not purge the north. They only were attacking Sparta because we were preventing them from attacking D2. Once we stopped being D2's meatshield, there was no reason for MC to shoot at us anymore. They had taken FLA's space... and they took that because they needed a place to jump their capitals from. With FLA gone and MC holding a system from which they could jump into Branch, there was no logistical need for them to come further north. Incidently... D2 only wanted ppl in Dek to buy them enough time to get one last mothership out of the cooker. FLA surrendered, IRON rolled over (one tower in a station system?!?!?!?!) and we backed out... D2 lost their buffer... and ended up not getting their final ship finished. And what was D2 doing while FLA burned, you ask??? Well... I remember seeing freighters and carriers undocking like mad from CZD and UEJ stations... and I'd heard there were several Jump Bridge ops for D2 to get their assets out. So... remind me again why you expected us to die and get shunted back to empire for D2??? (NB... I will ammend my previous post to reflect that is was Joshua's map.... ty for the correction) -----------------------------------------------
Spiderus D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.27 19:18:00 - [22] If we want to go and take ESA space or Sparta's space, we will you wouldn't be able to stop us, plain and simple. If we wanted to go camp you in 24/7 we would if we want you to live there so we can make your eve lives miserable and for you to die from within, we will You just don't have the class of leadership or pvpers to stop us on any action we decide to take.
Almarez Setenta Corp	Posted - 2007.07.27 19:18:00 - [23] Well, first off, I think the north is an awesome place to be atm. Lots of fights and lots of mutual respect. Whatever happens, I think were all just trying to have fun atm. Who knows we may all become friends and take on some other people. Lord knows we all have the same enemies. Just my opinion, no disrespect meant for anyone. New outpost-30 bil isk, Items to save up for cap ships-700 mil isk, Going to bed early now that you don't have to work for that and realizing how much poontang you were missing-PRICELESS
Trent Jager Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.27 19:26:00 - [24] Quote: If we want to go and take ESA space or Sparta's space, we will you wouldn't be able to stop us, plain and simple. If we wanted to go camp you in 24/7 we would if we want you to live there so we can make your eve lives miserable and for you to die from within, we will You just don't have the class of leadership or pvpers to stop us on any action we decide to take. Took the words rite out of my mouth.
Djerin Obsidian Exploration Services	Posted - 2007.07.27 19:45:00 - [25] Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon So... remind me again why you expected us to die and get shunted back to empire for D2??? Hey relax. I didn't expect that. I have no bad sentiments for you. You did what appeared the right thing for you to do. That's fine. As i said i don't call you turncoats. I was just pointing out why some people are angry. I'm not.
Wraithstorm Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.07.27 20:02:00 - [26] Originally by: Spiderus If we want to go and take ESA space or Sparta's space, we will you wouldn't be able to stop us, plain and simple. If we wanted to go camp you in 24/7 we would if we want you to live there so we can make your eve lives miserable and for you to die from within, we will You just don't have the class of leadership or pvpers to stop us on any action we decide to take. Its people like you who make your Alliance look like trash bro. Keep up the good work. If you want to take ESA out stfu and do it. Let your guns do the talking. Trust me, you dont have anyone this way shaking in their boots.
Mundem Pashdale Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.07.27 20:26:00 - [27] Originally by: MultiSpec what will happen to sparta pets praesidium liberatis? Official PRAES annoncement: We're not Sparta pets Ignorance, it seems, is indeed bliss. Please check our killboards, availalbe through google, for details if you don't believe me -Mundem Pashdale, Lead Diplomat, Praesidium Libertatis-
Dave White coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.27 20:32:00 - [28] Originally by: Wraithstorm Edited by: Wraithstorm on 27/07/2007 20:11:10 Another chest beating contest getting started. Ill stay out of it. Apologies for the empty post While I usually don't agree with Wraith, in this case I do. Chestbeating is for internal forums, keep it there Originally by: CCP Wrangler To be completely honest I don't quite understand everything I'm going to say.
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii	Posted - 2007.07.27 20:34:00 - [29] Originally by: Brunswick2 Originally by: MultiSpec what will happen to sparta pets praesidium liberatis? praes aren't sparta pets... they're +tive to us and fly with us a lot This satisfies the general forum whore's definition of "pet". Portsmouth Shipyards IPO Sales Portsmouth Shipyards IPO Discussion
Arthur Guinness D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.27 20:44:00 - [30] There's a select few that know the exact answers as to who Tri is going to destroy in the coming weeks, and that's Tri's leadership. Darknesss likes to pew pew as much as much as all of his pilots and no pew pew makes us all sad pandas. I'll state a few facts as I see them real quick: 1. Tri PVP's all day, every day. 2. We LOVE having targets that will fight us. 3. We don't care much for space, and take it just to bring targets to us. 4. If we don't have targets, we will go find them. 5. Sparta's whining has escalated our blood lust for them from just standard pew pew to the point where a lot of our pilots would like to see them destroyed. 6. We could easily destroy Sparta within a couple weeks at most. 7. Most of the above applies to Storm Armada now as well in my opinion. 8. Tri likes shaking things up. This is my opinion, and not that of Tri leadership. I personally would like to destroy Sparta and kick their corpse back to empire real quick. Wouldn't mind taking our forces to visit their "friends" after Sparta is destroyed as well. My weather forecast for the near future: Severe thunderstorms with 99% chance of destruction for Sparta and Storm Armada. Once their name is removed from the Territorial map, all bets are off as to our next move. It would be nice to remove all the "junk" from the North so that the big boys could slug it out without being bothered by pesky mosquitoes that drop T1 loot. Again, all this is speculation from a low ranking Tri pilot who is having more fun than I thought possible in Eve as of late. ---

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