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Finraer
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Posted - 2004.01.29 15:17:00 -
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Are people generally in favour or against agent missions post patch, 'cause I am seriously considering going back to mining?
I have a standing of 9.7 with my agents corp, negotiations, connections etc at level 4 - level 3 agent has an EQ of well over 40. The last mission I got offered was to ferry 5 caldari shuttles (5000 volume each!) 3 jumps in 3 hours for about 70k, plus about 10 caldari shuttles as reward. I can't make a living doing this.
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Heritor
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Posted - 2004.01.29 15:30:00 -
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I get similar sort of missions after last patch....re-thinking my allegiance

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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2004.01.29 15:42:00 -
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Since that patch my money rewards have fallen through the floor, and t2 construction gear/module rewards are non-existent, impossible to earn a decent living like this. Makes me wonder why i trained social skills up to 4 in the first place. Tomorrow im heading back to my main base to get my miner 2 thorax out of the garage and actually make money mining in 0.8 space.
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Ciar Meara
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Posted - 2004.01.29 17:45:00 -
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Yeah I thought CCP had made the rewards higher but my 8.45 sarum family standing only gives me between 18000 and 50000 rewards and even lower bonus, wats up with that? I can't earn money that way and I hate mining and chain killing.
Wat happend?
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.01.29 18:15:00 -
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I'm not much of a mission runner (a few missions a week), but I'm getting the same.
EQ 6...
Rewards ----------------------- Upon completing the mission, the following will be awarded to you: 55120 credits
Bonus Rewards ----------------------- The following bonuses may be awarded to you: 44000 credits - if you complete the mission before 2004.01.29 18:51
Only non-ISK reward today (6-7 missions) was 5 shuttles.
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Falnaerith
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Posted - 2004.01.29 19:19:00 -
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1 word response to topic:
No
Couple reasons:
1. You can put a couple miner 1's on your frigate and go and make more money vs the time for missions than for rewards.
2. Like as not, the kill missions will give you a different person to kill and you'll lose your ship.
3. Tech 2 doesn't drop almost at all anymore.
4. CCP wants this to be a mining simulator, check the recent changes.
5. CCP likes to act the god and watch us all scurry around like ants, then see what they can make us put up with. ------------------- Basic truths? Idiots make us rich. - Some people are only alive because it is illegal to kill them. |

Skandranon
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Posted - 2004.01.29 19:31:00 -
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T2 Gear is still existant. Just in smaller amounts perhaps. I'm getting some RAM modules as a bonus as we speak.
Also rewards aren't all that nerfed. I did a mission where I made almost 200k on one trip, 6 jumps round trip. And my agent isn't anything to write home about.
Only thing is time to complet seems a little shorter, but still very doable even in my slowest cargo hauler.
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Kyndoku
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Posted - 2004.01.29 19:55:00 -
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Just to add another view;
My rewards have gone through the floor post patch too. Even those on important ones - 9 jump courier important for a lvl 3 eff. 30 as we speak - combined isk total of reward and bonus: 75k.
Long story short, more missions with Isk as a bonus and all isk rewards reduced on average by about 20-40k.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.01.29 20:06:00 -
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No one but I will do agent missions. See yall later. --------------------------
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Wraeththu
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Posted - 2004.01.29 20:13:00 -
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Quote: No one but I will do agent missions. See yall later.
The way I look at it, at least my standing doesn't get reset to 2.0 half the time when I log out, like it did back in the 'ole days.
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Drac Dragnog
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Posted - 2004.01.29 21:08:00 -
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As for tech 2 gear I get it all the time... I use lvl 1 and 2 agents at the moment. I think the rewards are low on Isk but I got a ton of this tech 2 stuff sitting around taking up space.
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Drutort
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Posted - 2004.01.29 21:34:00 -
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yes i wasted my time on social 4,neg 4, connection 4 and few others etc... oh well
CCP thinks this is good then they are the onlyones with few others that will be doing agent missions then. support Idea: QuickInfo an alternative to ShowInfo
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Tirren
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Posted - 2004.01.29 23:27:00 -
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Prepatch I would average total isk rewards for missions at around 80-100k isk. Every 3rd-4th mission I'd get a good 100k reward plus 70-120k bonus. I have YET to break 100k post patch and I'm social 5, neg 4, effective q 36 with a level 3 agent... not to mention high standing. On top of it all, I have never had to travel more than 7 jumps in one direction for a mission with this agent (prepatch) now I'm getting frequent 8-10 jump one way and no more quick back traveling.
Give us Agent runners a break here and give us something nice instead of "and he taketh away..." "I can only take so much before I'll blow up my own ship. Hey isn't that what insurance is for?"
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Kyndoku
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Posted - 2004.01.30 02:30:00 -
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My average number of jumps has risen by a good 2 or 3 too. Also, my lvl 3 agent keeps asking for things other than minerals (Electronic parts, super conductors) much more frequently, and in bigger quantities. The chances of breaking even on these now the rewards have been lowered are practically nil. 
Why CCP? Why?
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.30 03:07:00 -
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Nope not worth doing, don't bother anymore 
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Rowland Deschain
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Posted - 2004.01.30 04:35:00 -
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Edited by: Rowland Deschain on 30/01/2004 04:37:26 Are they worth doing? Look at this mission from a level 2 agent then you tell me.
Collateral ----------------------- Prior to accepting this mission, the following must be provided by you as collateral, to be returned to you upon successful completion of the mission: 453180 credits
Rewards ----------------------- Upon completing the mission, the following will be awarded to you: 34000 credits
Bonus Rewards ----------------------- The following bonuses may be awarded to you: 35 units of Rolled Mexalite Armor Plate at ? if you complete the mission before 2004.01.30 04:51
Think something is alittle off or what? Edit:"took alittle over 23 min to complete this" ______________________________________________________ PIE Inc. Last in the line of Eld, a true Gunslinger
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Pretorian 1
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Posted - 2004.01.30 05:08:00 -
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27k ISK and 1x small armour repairer is my current mission reward.... No, missions are no way worth doing now, not when this is a high quality lvl3 agent hehe.
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Naal Morno
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Posted - 2004.01.30 05:19:00 -
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Edited by: Naal Morno on 30/01/2004 05:21:10 I did a total of 9 missions with my agent today... 9.77 standing with his corp, 9.30 with agent, EQ 38 or so...
Got krap, some 60-70k per mission reward, usual shuttles/basic cargo , nothing T2, no skills, no comps, nothing... With no insta-back gating this is just not feasible to do agent missions anymore.... I'd rather play mining simulator and get solid 2.5mln/hour...
With the latest changes I will think of starting ganking peeps for money, and I am not the only one from my narrow group of friends in Eve thinking along the same lines... I think Eve, in light of recent changes, will become much more hostile environment from what it is now... Your Heavy Neutron Blaster II perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Sentinel, wrecking for 660.4 damage.
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Eyeris
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Posted - 2004.01.30 08:21:00 -
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Im laying off agent missions too. Rewards got nerfed hard and difficulty increase is hardly a compensation for it.
Going to do rat hunting now.
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Starflare
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Posted - 2004.01.30 08:28:00 -
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The problem is EQ seems to be bugged.
I had two identical missions from 2 level 3 agents and they paid out the same even though EQ of one is much higher than the other.
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Lucre
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Posted - 2004.01.30 09:07:00 -
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Quote: Are people generally in favour or against agent missions post patch, 'cause I am seriously considering going back to mining?
I am very annoyed at the changes, partly because they were introduced without notice or discussion but mostly because of the self-righteous "We're just putting things back in balance" when blatantly IMHO they are whacking things way *out* of balance.
So yes, I'm seriously considering going back to mining. Or at least until I've got a new BS after which I might try hunting again. But there's not enough income in agent missions now to make them a worthwhile expenditure of time.
And as for 'risk free', try a Damsel mission sometime - I was lucky, mine was only an 85k rat with two 35k escorts and I was able to get a corp mate to help in her Mega. Hello ccp, some hint of mission difficulty (i.e. bounty!)in the journal might just be nice...
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Dufas
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Posted - 2004.01.30 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Dufas on 30/01/2004 09:20:04 hellmar was asked about no warning with taking out the zy and mega from t2 tools...he said he thought it was in the patch notes...well i didnt see anything of the sort...typical ccp..ppl find a way to make a living and they NERF it and play dumb about it...if they wanna lower the amount of isk u get per mission then leave the amount of zy and mega the same...
.. considering how hard it is to mine for zy and mega small corps were finally getting some min's to make stuff with but enter the booming voice from above 'LET THERE BE NERF' and bang..no more mins..
so no missions r not worth doing anymore for the money or tools not to mention that useless stupid research agent that i have been visiting every day for over a month and for what..NOTHING...
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Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2004.01.30 09:30:00 -
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Oh... f'ing grand! I hadn't really noticed yet as I am doing stupid lvl 2 missions to get my rating up to get to the same lvl3 my business partner is doing. So I don't look at the pay.
Bad enough that they took away our source of mega/zyd (glad we recycled the brunt of it a bit back) but if what you are saying is right, and I don't make 100k+ a mission anymore, why the hell bother?
Hunting rats, all fine but with the Sec rating increas still not fixed, it is less of an incentive.
Close to the lvl3 Agent I want, so will check payments to have an actual first hand view on the matter. But frankly all the 'little' tweaks they do without informing their player base is starting to get on my nerves.
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Atinia
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Posted - 2004.01.30 09:33:00 -
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I've done about some 90-odd missions since the patch and haven't gotten more than 2 R.A.M.s, 45 Basic Cargo Extenders, 1 BP and the rest in ISK. So it seems that Tools is not only stripped for Meg and Zyd, but it appears they are also rarer aswell.
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Blue Ice
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Posted - 2004.01.30 11:55:00 -
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In short - "*******s" sick of this nerfing.. Love the game, its like a love/hate relationship can't be without it don't want to be with it... aghhhhhhh ;)
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.01.30 12:02:00 -
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I rejected over 100 agent missions yesterday with no good rewards, so NO. __________________________
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Tano
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Posted - 2004.01.30 12:20:00 -
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I have switched specifically to a security corp specifically for the combat missions as the rewards for courier, mineral missions are so poor.
At least for comabat you get the bounties, for the cruiser missions reasonable drops and occasionally very good drops. The down side is there is risk and some of the missions probably need a bs.
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.01.30 12:21:00 -
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Great!
If all you whiners quit doing agent missions, I get back my feeling of being unique doing sucky missions to no good rewards. And the prices for implants will again rise, and I will earn on that.
After the Castor patch, everybody wanted to do agent missions to get skills, tech2 items for ref and implants. The market is flooded with loot sold for under mineral price. And implants is falling 1M a day in price since there are so many stupid ppl out there that just "have" to sell their implant before the prices fall. I welcome this change with joy. My corp has collected nearly all the skills, and a lot of each too. We have saved all the tech2 stuff we were getting, and we have agent runners on R&D agents. Maybe our corp can benefit having a few dedicated agent runners now?
Maybe we can get back to the point where just a few do agent missions? (Those of us that actually like them, and those of us that is corp refiners and have to do them.)
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Severus Trajan
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Posted - 2004.01.30 13:21:00 -
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Quote: Bad enough that they took away our source of mega/zyd (glad we recycled the brunt of it a bit back)
LOL! From latest CSM chat:
Hellmar > as more T2 bps get invented the value of the components will be much higher that the recycling price of them Hellmar > So the people on the boards boasting about having recycled just before the patch will regret it soon
Ooops! 
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Nemesis I
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Posted - 2004.01.30 13:26:00 -
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Hmm not really if it was worth 100k in recycle pre patch now 10k in recycle post patch, sell it for 50k its more then recycle value but not as good as pre patch recycle....
Anyhow back to the topic, so basically 200k for an hours mission running or 4M mining? ohh its a hard choice...
Nem
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