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Daspope	Posted - 2007.07.30 05:43:00 - [1] i keep hearing about how people make craploads of money in 0.0 space but i cant seem to make the 200mil a day that most people claim. im a miner and i do ratting on an alt. can someone please explain how you make this big money?
JonnyWarhawk	Posted - 2007.07.30 05:47:00 - [2] I'd imagine with a large mining ship you can mine enough to make quite a bit. I'm not sure if people are serious about 200mil though.
Daspope	Posted - 2007.07.30 05:49:00 - [3] eh just goin by what i hear i can make about 20mil on a good day
RuriHoshino Minmatar The Mission Guys	Posted - 2007.07.30 05:51:00 - [4] Ratting. Warp to belt. Kill bship spawns. Warp to another belt. Kill bship spawns. Warp back to previous belt and kill new bship spawns. Rinse and repeat over and over and over. Alternatively, if you're lucky and can catch / kill a nicely faction fitted Machariel, that will net you more than a few hundred million. Good luck with that _
Paracidic Infection	Posted - 2007.07.30 05:51:00 - [5] 200mil? i wish.... Depending on skills and region you are in, and you are carebearing it up without any hostiles, you should on average 10-20mil/hour. Not much different then running a good agent, but the ore and loot could earn you more if you can get it to empire to sell.
Daspope	Posted - 2007.07.30 05:52:00 - [6] what about for industry i didnt say how much i make selling **** cuz that follows a different patter iv managed about 100mil on 1 great day but i think taht was due to corp war when i was selling missiles
Battle Pope	Posted - 2007.07.30 05:53:00 - [7] Edited by: Battle Pope on 30/07/2007 05:53:55 Its really all dependant. 1 - Which region 2 - System true sec rating 3 - type of rats 4 - alliance controlled space with no hostiles vs. roaming hostiles vs all hostiles 5 - player ship skill I can generally pull around 20 mill an hour in a good system with no interupts. Though its not the best 0.0 region by far. Taking ALL loot also makes a good difference. The extra ore from refining adds up.
Spacy Tracy	Posted - 2007.07.30 05:54:00 - [8] 200 mil a day is tough in the general case. However, 50-75 mil a day with dedicated ratting, looting and salvage is extremely achievable. You will occasionally have weeks where your average is maybe double that with elite spawns (Dread Guristas, etc). 1 bil a month in an alliance setting is a straightforward goal.
Ephemeron Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.30 06:29:00 - [9] to get 200 mil a day ratting in 0.0, you'll need to kill 200 NPC bs. Average bs per spawn is 2, means you need to kill about 100 spawns. It can take about 6 minutes per spawn. That's 600 minutes or 10 hours. Conclusion, if you have no life for 10 hours grinding spawns in 0.0, you can make 200 mil per day.. that's not counting loot since picking up loot increases time spent per spawn.
Cammulos Shadow Of The Light R i s e	Posted - 2007.07.30 06:54:00 - [10] I just ratted for about 35min and made roughly 15m in bounty+loot. And thats all I intend to do for a week. You CAN rat for 200m a day, I have known people who do it, and ya know what else....? They have NO lives.
Daram Thakk'ar Minmatar 343rd Mining Division	Posted - 2007.07.30 07:19:00 - [11] I have on one occation spendt 14 hours per day for a week straight ratting (hey, ill and home from work... had to do SOMETHING), that was using a Raven in Stain. I did make 1.5 billion, but by the end of that week I was just about ready to throw myself in front of a bus... Ofc... a corpmate came down on Saturday, undocked in the system we based out of, warped to a random belt just to test his tank, dropped out right on top of Chelm and made 5 billion in 5 minutes At that point I was just about ready to throw HIM in front of a bus....
Gojyu Gallente Ever Flow FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.30 07:28:00 - [12] Originally by: Ephemeron to get 200 mil a day ratting in 0.0, you'll need to kill 200 NPC bs. Average bs per spawn is 2, means you need to kill about 100 spawns. It can take about 6 minutes per spawn. That's 600 minutes or 10 hours. Conclusion, if you have no life for 10 hours grinding spawns in 0.0, you can make 200 mil per day.. that's not counting loot since picking up loot increases time spent per spawn. You forgot faction spawns and officers as well as drones. To the op- it strongly depends on where you're ratting. If you're in a well defended -1.0 system, carefully tended to get double/triple spawns and a few gsc's to drop off loot, it might just be possible to pull 75-100 mil an hour, I can also see high sp characters doing far better. I've been out ratting with a guy that has around 30mil sp, and suffice it to say, 6 minutes per triple spawn would give him time to kill the mobs, loot, get up and make a cup of coffee.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.30 07:30:00 - [13] x mil a day says nothing. This can be 2 hours or 18 hours, so you can't seriously compare the income / day. Also it's difficult to say how much the real income from ratting is, cause of that rare officer spawns. If someone made 200mil a day, with looting a rare officer item, this does not mean that his usual income is that high. For missions e.g. you can easy say how much isk/h as the income is quite steady, for ratting this would be a complicated formula (taking all that chances of rare officers into calculation etc.) .. if you like to estimate this, you should take a long period of time, at least few months, and then compare how much hours you hunted with how much isk you made in that period. Very difficult to say this is.
meepsheep	Posted - 2007.07.30 07:35:00 - [14] aparently a hulk with max skills can make almost 100mil in an hour acording to someones calculations
Mennelaos	Posted - 2007.07.30 07:44:00 - [15] Originally by: meepsheep aparently a hulk with max skills can make almost 100mil in an hour acording to someones calculations These times are over :( Today a maxed hulk can make about 50-60 mille/hour still not bad...but...hmm ;)
Malakai Draevyn Caldari The Lions of New Avalon	Posted - 2007.07.30 09:41:00 - [16] Originally by: Mennelaos Originally by: meepsheep aparently a hulk with max skills can make almost 100mil in an hour acording to someones calculations These times are over :( Today a maxed hulk can make about 50-60 mille/hour still not bad...but...hmm ;) Even still - this easily beats the OP's request of '200M a day' - 3-4 hours of mining in that hulk config could net the 200M... ..:: MD ::..
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.07.30 11:25:00 - [17] Originally by: RuriHoshino Ratting. Warp to belt. Kill bship spawns. Warp to another belt. Kill bship spawns. Warp back to previous belt and kill new bship spawns. Rinse and repeat over and over and over.] And they call us empire dwellers carebears CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
Lady Valory	Posted - 2007.07.30 11:34:00 - [18] You need to do "flavor of the month" ratting to get the 200mil isk a day. Here is an example--before invention it was 425mm prototype rail guns from serps. Those were selling for 15-20 mil isk each, so rat for those. Now it is the named sensor damps... Those can sell for 10 mil each for the best ones--rat for those... Also current is alloyed tritanium bars--300000 each and some bs drop 4 each--so thats almost 3 mil ISK per bs... Rat for those... Just ratting and killing bs with two one-dimensional to make the 200mil isk a day... I will give you one more tip... When you find your favorite ratting system, set up a personal small tower for you and your alts. This lets you stock ammo, ships, mods, and store stuff. That way if you rat and salvage, you can store 30000m3 of rat loot/salvge THEN move it all with one op. This saves a lot on downtime, and your hauler can bring in fuel for the POS on the return trip. If you are really good, your rat base POS can be a medium tower and make a simple reaction... If not, mine a good metal and sell that. Example: small tower with sovereignty fuel costs--1 mil a day. Saving 1 hour a day hauling or switching to salvaging ships--BONUS 50mil extra rat income.

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