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Shevar
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Posted - 2007.07.31 09:01:00 -
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Edited by: Shevar on 31/07/2007 09:02:28
 Originally by: Mindless Slave
every setup in the entire eve universe seemed to have NOS all over it
ZOMG most setups use either guns or missles! There must be SOMETHING wrong with em.
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CCP: sorry bout the flamage, you guys in the balancing department just earned some cool points in most players eyes. Ignore the forum *****s.
Interesting, could I please see the full survey results regarding this insightfull evaluation of the eve-community that appearantly warrants you to talk in name of "most players"?
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Shevar
Minmatar
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Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.07.31 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Shevar on 31/07/2007 09:22:13
Originally by: Mindless Slave
Thats right cause guns or missiles are pretty much bonused on any ship out there.... show me a non-amarr/blood ship with a Nos bonus...
how many SP does it take to use Nos as a super effective weapon.....
You're point being?
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Hey when did Guns and missiles start hurting enemies (offensive) and repairing armor/shields(defensive) like Nos does
Since when does NOS repair shields/armor? Also what about drones then? Only gallente get bonusses for em and every ship can use em. They can drain cap, they can damage, they can web they can do pretty much everything for relatively few SP.
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Sure just hold on while I go get that.... I am sure crying your eyes out will occupy you.
As in you just used some ******** statement in the assumption it would make your argumentation stronger? That's not really a proper way to argue right?
By the way it might help if you actually learned how to use [ quote ] properly your nested responces look rather, euh, odd.
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Shevar
Minmatar
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Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.07.31 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mindless Slave
Your point being?
Look at your point, we should nerf weapons and missiles cause everyone uses them. I presented a similar retort, then provided true counter arguments.
Oh the irony...
Didn't you use exactly the same argument in the OP? And i know it's a ******** suggestion just as stating Nos's should be nerfed because it is incorporated in a lot of PvP setups. A quote from your OP to refresh your memory (which seems to be rather shortlived)
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IT seemed like an epidemic, every setup in the entire eve universe seemed to have NOS all over it, and all the forum monkeys with no-skill were saying NOS was fine.
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You missed the point. Nos is an offensive and defensive weapon at the exact same time. You hurt the enemy while helping yourself. It throws off checks and balances most other things in this game have.
Your comparison using the drones are flawed logic. You loose DPS and GAIN nothing. It adversely effects your opponent.
Nos upsides:
Get cap (increasing your own tanking power)
Kill opponent's tank (active tanking)
Kill opponent's offense (laser/blaster ships)
Nos downsides:
lessened DPS
EW drone upside:
EW effects equivalent to 1 module
EW drone downsides:
Lessened DPS
How come slightly improving your own ship and slightly impacting the opponent is that much diffrent to being exclusively damaging the opponent or improving your own ship?
Considering neuts kill significantly more then a nos I don't really see an issue. I'm not against a minor nerf to nosses but quite frankly using this % system is just really awkward and basicly makes it even more difficult to do anything about smaller sized ships.
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You take an agressive tone with me, I will answer in kind sir.
What exactly is aggresive about saying the fact bringing up non-arguments to strengthen your case without any form of backing (in this case claiming the "mayority" of the eve-community shares the same reasoning as you)?
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