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Markousa
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2007.07.31 06:12:00 -
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Hi Guys
I know i'am probally in panic mode and not that I use them a lot but what the hell? Eve is removing the paper scissor rock conundrum I notice in most of the forums that say nerf nos nerf nos. they curse is the biggest punching bag i mean really the curse can hurt you if it catches you hiding in a belt ratting where the rats do the dps and the curse breaks your tank . By making nos useless what has the curse got? It certainly doesnÆt have dps. I mean tanked curses are nasty but all it can do is nos you it canÆt hurt you and a nanocurse is tough to beat but you get a web on him heÆs boned because last time I checked nano's have no tanks. If he has a buddy with him with dps then what can I say itÆs your fault getting caught by him. So now that makes another ship nerfed are ccp really trying to move the focus away from 1v1 or small roaming gangs and onto HUGE fleet battles? Well that doesnÆt work either usually there is to much lag and people canÆt see or shoot anything anyway last fleet I was in was about 50/50 either side the lag was impossible
Another reason for the nos nerf really is it to extend fights. another example is fleet battles no matter what tank you have your dead in 3 seconds so they cant extent fights that way either the other one would be small fights but that doesnÆt work either e.g. Ratter raven gets stuck in belt near home system small 4 man gang attacks raven raven tanks some damage and screams in corp chat for help corp comes with 14 man gang small 4 man gang runs away. ThatÆs from my experience so how is this a pvp game again? And wouldnÆt the golden rule be DONT GET STUCK IN A BELT WITH HOSTILES? Is it coming to the point where eve is becoming like real life and common sense is going out the window?
Nerf nos you have nerfed a wide range of ships whatÆs next?
Vagabond - nanoships are getting hit hard I wouldnÆt be surprised if this goes next wait we will take away the speed bonus at add a energy weapon bonus genius
Remote Damps - well they probably do need a nerf yet some how the nos kind of got hit first when damps are probably the best defense against nos
so again ccp have made people who brought a very expensive ship have another expensive paperweight I mean really you might as well take away shield boosters OMG my 1 gun cant kill a bs nerf it nerf it . A little exaggerated I know but really is that what this game is coming to? The way this game is now there is no way any amount of hardware will fix large fleet battles Jita is the best example. they keep fixing it but last I checked its still laggy the less lag you get the more people go there the more go there the more lag you get hence a vicious cycle
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Markousa
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2007.07.31 06:36:00 -
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as with everything nerfs fix and destroy things .
a curse is not an IWIN button 1v1 as most people seem to love to use as an example .
Curse uses NoS takes all your cap can no longer drain any more cap because you have none . so which means both you and him are sitting there with no cap the curse cant do any dps at all other than drones and most people that get in fights use their drones so sounds more of an even fight other than an IWIN button .
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Markousa
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2007.07.31 11:22:00 -
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you will be getting lots of jacked off people with this nerf and i spose every nerf as an amarr recon takes a long time to train and even longer to train one well then the ammount of money put into one with rigs / faction items get your setup just how you like it then ccp say ok we will take away everything that ship is about . as i said in the forum earlier . imagine training for a Vagabond with faction equipment and then have ccp say oh wait sorry we are going to swap the speed bonus for a missile bonus . to all you people who dont fly a vagabond its easy to go pfft was over powered and needed to be nerfed to the people that put the time in to get that ship and use it how iam sure it was intended it is a very bad waste of skill points . now all those people out there who have trained these ships have basically a paperweight they spent lots of money to make and get good at using . i can see someone saying oh the vagabond sucks to or something but that whole eg can be put on the every ship . what if ccp decided that missles were to much of a stack and then all the sudden changed all the missile slots on the raven to turret hardpoints not that it would happen you would get a very large player base unhappy . The one thing that i feel make this game good is that you can beat a 2003 player if you have the right setup to counter his but taking away specific advantages of certain ships and moduals leads the game to more of a this ship is the best in every situation everyone fly that . i mean if a ship is close range use long range to counter it . it uses nos ? damp it or jam it . there are so many ways to beat things other than a super nerf i do believe that nos in some cases are insanely overpowered but you dont use a boulder to catch a mosquito i mean some better examples have been on the forums . even something like Nos can only be used on ships the same size or larger than you ? that way you keep the interceptors happy and that way you dont make them completely useless
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Markousa
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2007.07.31 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: Markousa on 31/07/2007 14:26:07
ahh maybe like most curse pilots ive seen specially nano ones usually start nossing you then send thier drones on you why not as a first measure while you still got cap Smartbomb them ? kill 98% of the curse's dps instead of a no my fitting should pwn a cruiser that takes 40 days ish to train just to fly and more if ya want to fly it well there is ways to beat anything in this game if curse's are the ULTIMATE solo pwn mobile everyone says they are iam surprised you can even get into lowsec cause hell if they were as good as everyone says they would id have 1 memeber of a 100 man corp camping every gate from empire to lowsec its paper scissors rock something can beat everything
just wait shield boosters are next i can see it now . and maybe gallente get an extra missile hard point and take away some of those turrent ones oH NOES blasterthron does to much dps :P
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