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Speed Devil
Caldari
Mean Machines
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Posted - 2007.07.31 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Speed Devil on 31/07/2007 19:41:29
so bajran bali invited his victim of wich he stole ore from to our channel :)
victim> i have reported you for theft..and hopefully you will not be playign anymrwe
he closes our channel and didnt notice i was there ^^
so i send him a mail
2007.07.31 18:57
bajran bali paid me 100m to me to kill u repeatedly for a month. pay me 150m and ill leave u alone and protect ur miningoperation. nobody will steal anything anymore
victims answer
2007.07.31 19:03
no thanks,this is my second day back after reavtivating my account , i have petitioned that idiot and am waiting to see what eve have to say and if its not to my liking i will quit again anyway and go back to WoW so iam affriad i wont be paying you and his money was waisted in paying you so have a good day..goodbye
my answer
2007.07.31 19:05
petitioning wont help at all. orethieving is allowed
and his answer again
2007.07.31 19:08
is allowed , that is stupid , i came back to this game cause i was burnt out on wow and on my second day i get a ****er stealign right out from under my nose while i was tellign him to stop and now get a "bountey hunter" or hired hand or what ever the hell you think you are telling me to pay up or else...F*%king stupid GAME
he logged never to return again 
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Zkillz kun
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.31 19:55:00 -
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wow***s make me lol
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Scott Ryder
Omen Incorporated
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.07.31 20:47:00 -
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No but griefing a noob til he quits is a bannable offense..
Just mentioning
Oh noes!! Its as foretold! The whinageddon is upon us - Take cover!!! |
Kuromugi
Caldari
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.31 21:06:00 -
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I lol'ed because some people are actually like that, though, Stealing from a can and the having a player quit is hardly grieving if it wasn't done over and over again to the same player, if they decided to quit over that 1 thing, then someone really needs to gb2/wow/
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Saki Tnubkakes
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Posted - 2007.07.31 21:46:00 -
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Yay! You made someone annoyed enough to quit. Pat yourself on the back, you're just awesome. What an adult! What an example to all of us! Hell, let's all kill new players in high sec repeatedly so they quit. It would make a great community.
You can't speak without the conch, after all!
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Grig Orig
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Posted - 2007.07.31 21:56:00 -
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Well, if the fella had been paying attention, then he wouldn't of had anything stolen, now would he?
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.07.31 22:26:00 -
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can i pay you 150 mill to protect my mining operation?
SKUNK
 Originally by: Fink Angel
They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
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Speed Devil
Caldari
Mean Machines
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Posted - 2007.07.31 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk
can i pay you 150 mill to protect my mining operation?
SKUNK
i would accept the isks but then id blow u up myself actually 
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Jak Silverheart
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.31 23:31:00 -
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I will gladly accept 150mil to protect your mining operation, I will protect it till my death. Though I will be hitting the self-destruct button on my pod shortly after reciving the money though...
Originally by: Scordite
Who was it that said that flying minmatar is kinda like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an uzi? 
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Devian 666
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.08.01 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Saki Tnubkakes
Yay! You made someone annoyed enough to quit. Pat yourself on the back, you're just awesome. What an adult! What an example to all of us! Hell, let's all kill new players in high sec repeatedly so they quit. It would make a great community.
You can't speak without the conch, after all!
He activated his account so he wasn't a noob player. If he didn't know about ore theft then he's a noob in the brain department. No great loss as all he'd do is whine in petitions to gms for things that are allowed anyway, thus wasting their time.
There seems to be one thing that WoW culture brings to eve and that's whiney smacktalkers that can't understand why they've been war dec'd.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star.
Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |
Saki Tnubkakes
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Posted - 2007.08.01 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666
There seems to be one thing that WoW culture brings to eve and that's whiney smacktalkers that can't understand why they've been war dec'd.
It's funny how "WoW culture" is used as an epithet for somebody who doesn't want to act like a 14-year old jerk, OR someone that does act like a 14-year old jerk.
Not a personal slight Devian, just a general observation.
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Devian 666
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.08.01 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Saki Tnubkakes
Originally by: Devian 666
There seems to be one thing that WoW culture brings to eve and that's whiney smacktalkers that can't understand why they've been war dec'd.
It's funny how "WoW culture" is used as an epithet for somebody who doesn't want to act like a 14-year old jerk, OR someone that does act like a 14-year old jerk.
Not a personal slight Devian, just a general observation.
I used to play WoW so I have first hand experience at not wanting to act like a jerk and still being one.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star.
Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |
Callthetruth
Caldari
Drunken Ratbags Inc
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.08.01 00:56:00 -
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ah well
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Arii Smith
Caldari
StarHunt
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.08.01 01:11:00 -
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Anyone who would petition because they got PVP'd is not someone I want in this game.
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Ket Halpak
Cold-Fury
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.01 02:19:00 -
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People crying over ore theiving is something that I still don't get. As a miner I understand that jetcan mining has its own risk/reward system. The positive is that I can have someone else hauling my ore back to station saving me time and allowing me to mine more. The risk is that someone else can come and take that ore, or that the hauler themselves could steal it.
The IQ of eve just went up without the noob.
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Check out my blog at RantingsofaCarebear.blogspot.com
Privateers: Those who don't adapt become victims of harsh irony |
Petrothian Tong
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.01 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ket Halpak
People crying over ore theiving is something that I still don't get. As a miner I understand that jetcan mining has its own risk/reward system. The positive is that I can have someone else hauling my ore back to station saving me time and allowing me to mine more. The risk is that someone else can come and take that ore, or that the hauler themselves could steal it.
The IQ of eve just went up without the noob.
I guess is cause that miners are already at the bottom of the chain....
I mean, is so unprofitable to do... when theres 0.0 ratting and manufacturing.
they probley complain too if they are already ****ed over by every other type and robbed by them =P
but yeah, people being griefed out of eve isnt new... tons of newbies I met/helped left for those reasons.
ah well, Life goes on.
-Siggi-
""PvP" isn't only direct person to person combat, it can be very indirect. Selling an item on the market which somebody buys from you is resulting in another guy not getting a sale." Oveur |
danadarb
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Posted - 2007.08.01 04:26:00 -
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What about when you get ransomed in a navitas after playing for a few days. Then get killed and podded. No ship (well noob ship), no money, mission failed so no agent missions. Is that inviting for new players ?
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Modrak Vseth
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Posted - 2007.08.01 05:12:00 -
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I don't personally think it's a good idea to grief new players (although I'm a pretty new player myself, so WTH do I know, right?). This is definately a different scenario though. This guy REactivated his account. Therefor, he had an account previously and he KNEW the basic game mechanics. Ok, so maybe he'd been out long enough that he didn't know ore thievery is allowed. Fine, but rather then figuring out a way to COUNTER it, he instead whines and quits. Obviously someone that wouldn't of lasted long anyway...
Originally by: danadarb
What about when you get ransomed in a navitas after playing for a few days. Then get killed and podded. No ship (well noob ship), no money, mission failed so no agent missions. Is that inviting for new players ?
Again, totally different scenario from the OP. That being said, no new players pick up EVE because they found it in the bargain bin at their local gameshop. If they're new and playing EVE it's either because:
1. They did some research on it or
2. They know someone else that plays it.
Either way, they're BOUND to know about the harsh losses that you face in this game.
Plus, you're given plenty of warning before you even make it into lowsec, so hopefully you would take it as a lesson learnt.
And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that failing one mission will make it so that you can't do missions anymore, even if you're new. Again, considering the circumstances, if they can't accept losing a ship that costs a couple hundred ISKs, tops, as a learning experience, then they would probably quit when they lost their first multi-million ISK ship anyway. At least they're saving themselves some time and frustration. 
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Malcanis
High4Life
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.01 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: danadarb
What about when you get ransomed in a navitas after playing for a few days. Then get killed and podded. No ship (well noob ship), no money, mission failed so no agent missions. Is that inviting for new players ?
Hmm, perhaps CCP should make it so that there's some kind of very clear, explicit warning that pops up when you go in to systems where that kind of thing can happen?
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Zafriel
Acidic Reign
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Posted - 2007.08.01 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: danadarb
What about when you get ransomed in a navitas after playing for a few days. Then get killed and podded. No ship (well noob ship), no money, mission failed so no agent missions. Is that inviting for new players ?
Hmm, perhaps CCP should make it so that there's some kind of very clear, explicit warning that pops up when you go in to systems where that kind of thing can happen?
Man...thats a really great idea!!!
To the DevMobile.....
0/
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Dionisius
Gallente
LEGI0N
SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2007.08.01 10:42:00 -
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Wow..stupidity really spreads fast as fire, and i'm not referring to the poor guy that quited EvE...
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Originally by: Splagada
Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39
in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire. |
Malcanis
High4Life
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.01 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dionisius
Wow..stupidity really spreads fast as fire, and i'm not referring to the poor guy that quited EvE...
You don't like my pop-up warning idea...?
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Dionisius
Gallente
LEGI0N
SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2007.08.01 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Dionisius
Wow..stupidity really spreads fast as fire, and i'm not referring to the poor guy that quited EvE...
You don't like my pop-up warning idea...?
I don't like reading about some guy that quited EvE because some wannabe eve-superstar decided to grief him until he quited.
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Originally by: Splagada
Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39
in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire. |
Dv1C3
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Posted - 2007.08.01 11:10:00 -
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Wow. Was that a "Wwwaaaaaaaaah, you stole from my jetcan"?
Didn't he notice Secure cans on the market? What did he think they were for?
Well, I guess if you don't bother to find out about the game you're playing and how it works, bad things will happen to you.
Wierd.
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Lavraen
Minmatar
Racketeers
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Posted - 2007.08.01 12:32:00 -
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I hope he wasn't mining in Isikemi with an Osprey first name of character beginning with an N?
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Garat Mant
Minmatar
Moons of Pluto
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Posted - 2007.08.01 13:08:00 -
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I know that this isn't going to go over well, but I still gotta say it. Consider it an "inevitable foot in mouth" syndrome.
If you see an obvious noob mining in lowsec, flip his can by all means. But don't kill him; explain what you did (keep an eye on local/scanner of course for the possible gank squad) and tell him what you would do were he a more experienced player.
Consider it chaining noobs - don't kill them all as quickly as possible, train some of them up, let them get bigger and better. Make your game better by creating more canny, tougher prey to hunt.
I'm not saying "give the noob 100M and faction fittings", nor am I saying "spend a couple of hours in full on teacher mode". When I got podded, my oh so evil pirate explained why he popped me and why I should have been more speedy with the ransom. He also told me how to watch local and the scanner.
Now I'm fully aware that this particular one was a little too drama llama for my advice to work. But there are many, many people who try out EVE from other games and quit early because the barrier to entry seems too high.
Not that they got ganked, or griefed or similar, but that the game is just so darned big and complex that any setback, however small, will make the game seem impossible. Try to help them over that barrier to entry.
Then maybe they'll turn into players like me - carebears to be sure, but ones who know the score. I'll try to deny you your kill as best I can, or maybe I'll trap you with more powerful players.
I made it over the barrier into this game, and I'm better prey because of it.
-G
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.01 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: danadarb
What about when you get ransomed in a navitas after playing for a few days. Then get killed and podded. No ship (well noob ship), no money, mission failed so no agent missions. Is that inviting for new players ?
It would be for me. seeing that that kind of evil stuff goes on in a game would have me hooked instantly.
DE
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K'reemy G'udness
Delicious
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Posted - 2007.08.01 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dionisius
I don't like reading about some guy that quited EvE because some wannabe eve-superstar decided to grief him until he quited.
LOL @ quited. 
Sincerely,
K'reemy
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Faekurias
Federation Fleet
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.08.01 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: K'reemy G'udness
Originally by: Dionisius
I don't like reading about some guy that quited EvE because some wannabe eve-superstar decided to grief him until he quited.
LOL @ quited.
rofl
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Dionisius
Gallente
LEGI0N
SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2007.08.01 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: K'reemy G'udness
Originally by: Dionisius
I don't like reading about some guy that quited EvE because some wannabe eve-superstar decided to grief him until he quited.
LOL @ quited.
Yessss....?????
Disclaimer thingy: I'm not english.
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Originally by: Splagada
Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39
in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire. |
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