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Ja'kar Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.08.01 16:27:00 - [1] a) That you play computer games b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? add your own Q/A
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.08.01 16:37:00 - [2] Originally by: Ja'kar a) That you play computer games b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? add your own Q/A a) "My hobbies, in addition to ________ and _______, include computer and videogames." b) See above c) EVE is an open-ended game where the majority of content arises due to interactions between large numbers of players. How's that? ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION \| Forum Whiners - Unite!
Khnaedra D'Val Black Knight Buccaneers Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.01 16:47:00 - [3] a) I play computer games! b) I'm 30, I still play computer games! c) Lasers, missiles, explosions!! Who cares what people think of you, as a gamer? If I cared that much, my XFire profile wouldn't show 4400 hours of gaming since February 2005!
Lysianna	Posted - 2007.08.01 16:58:00 - [4] a) That you play computer games I just say, I love computer games and that it replaces the brain dead TV for me. Usually, no one can say anything since most watch tv... b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games I'll let you know when I'm 30. c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? I play in a death metal band and I am pretty fit. I just like to relaxe on EVE after my long hours of music, training and work. Since I don't like to be brain dead, I play EVE.. Usually, people tend to not know what to reply :)
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.08.01 17:02:00 - [5] If you play computer games at age 30, then I'm sorry, but you are a geek... Especially if you play a game like EVE... That's just the way it is... My Infinity Ship Designs:T-Y9, Medium Hauler
Digital Solaris	Posted - 2007.08.01 17:16:00 - [6] 1. I enjoy games with stories to tell. In the same sense like a movie or a book is revealing its story. 2. I grew up with books, I grew up with movies so its only natural that I continue to play games even if I am 30 because I enjoy games as much as I enjoy reading books or watching movies, with something to tell. 3. Action, comedy, drama, horror, romance, thriller and weirdos. All this in a galaxy from Iceland.
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.01 17:19:00 - [7] Originally by: Ja'kar a) That you play computer games b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? add your own Q/A A) I don't B) It's none of their business C) It's a fun game and if you make fun of me I'll beat the living crap outta you. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Judas Lonestar Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.01 17:22:00 - [8] I just explain I can either be out drinking and acting stupid, or I can be playing games. Everyone has a hobby, mine is shooting. Be it real guns or imaginary internet spaceship guns, if it goes bang I'm gonna play with it!
Scorpyn Caldari Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.01 17:46:00 - [9] Originally by: Ja'kar a) That you play computer games b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? add your own Q/A What, exactly, is the problem with playing games? 2007-07-19 20:26
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.08.01 17:52:00 - [10] Originally by: Scorpyn Originally by: Ja'kar a) That you play computer games b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? add your own Q/A What, exactly, is the problem with playing games? Typically most women in their late 20's and older see it as childish, and would prefer to not date men who play computer games... I'm pretty sure this is where the OP is coming from... He's afraid to tell women that he plays computer games... My Infinity Ship Designs:T-Y9, Medium Hauler
Ja'kar Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.08.01 17:53:00 - [11] If you play computer games at age 30, then I'm sorry, but you are a geek... LOL np was just a bored post
Lucifer Fellblade Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.08.01 18:01:00 - [12] How do you tell a none gamer your a gamer? Simple answer to that one. You don't. ------
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.01 18:08:00 - [13] Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Scorpyn Originally by: Ja'kar a) That you play computer games b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? add your own Q/A What, exactly, is the problem with playing games? Typically most women in their late 20's and older see it as childish, and would prefer to not date men who play computer games... I'm pretty sure this is where the OP is coming from... He's afraid to tell women that he plays computer games... Tell em you'll stop playing your games if they stop playing theirs if you get my meaning. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.08.01 18:17:00 - [14] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Scorpyn Originally by: Ja'kar a) That you play computer games b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? add your own Q/A What, exactly, is the problem with playing games? Typically most women in their late 20's and older see it as childish, and would prefer to not date men who play computer games... I'm pretty sure this is where the OP is coming from... He's afraid to tell women that he plays computer games... Tell em you'll stop playing your games if they stop playing theirs if you get my meaning. It's not possible for women to stop playing their emotional/drama games, it's how their brains are wired. Just as it's not possible for men to not act like kids sometimes, or have childlike hobbies. No, we never grow up, deal with it women of the world... My Infinity Ship Designs:T-Y9, Medium Hauler
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.01 18:19:00 - [15] Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Scorpyn Originally by: Ja'kar a) That you play computer games b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? add your own Q/A What, exactly, is the problem with playing games? Typically most women in their late 20's and older see it as childish, and would prefer to not date men who play computer games... I'm pretty sure this is where the OP is coming from... He's afraid to tell women that he plays computer games... Tell em you'll stop playing your games if they stop playing theirs if you get my meaning. It's not possible for women to stop playing their emotional/drama games, it's how their brains are wired. Just as it's not possible for men to not act like kids sometimes, or have childlike hobbies. No, we never grow up, deal with it women of the world... I think your my long lost brother!!!..... ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Jimmy Trevett	Posted - 2007.08.01 18:20:00 - [16] Originally by: Ja'kar a) That you play computer games b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? A. I blow stuff up do you have a f**king problem with it? B. If you are playing at age 30 then you need a girl. C. Sorry, but you are. Reguard, Jimmy Trevett
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.08.01 18:28:00 - [17] Edited by: DarkMatter on 01/08/2007 18:30:23 Quote: B. If you are playing at age 30 then you need a girl. That's the problem... I'm 34, and have both a woman(GF) and computer games & other manly toys/hobbies. Luckily this does not bother my woman. MOST women however, won't stand for it, and it causes relationship problems (My GF would probably not like it so much if we were married, and the game(s) interfered with the relationship) To the point, that there is a stigma against men who play computer games. They are geeks, or non-datables... So what's the lesson? Most women want marriage above all else. So it's up to us men to NOT give it to them IMO... My Infinity Ship Designs:T-Y9, Medium Hauler
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.08.01 18:35:00 - [18] Quote: B. If you are playing at age 30 then you need a girl. I fail to see why having a girlfriend and enjoying videogames are mutually exclusive. Originally by: DarkMatter I'm 34, and have both a woman(GF) and computer games & other manly toys/hobbies. Luckily this does not bother my woman. MOST women however, won't stand for it, and it causes relationship problems (My GF would probably not like it so much if we were married, and the game(s) interfered with the relationship) To the point, that there is a stigma against men who play computer games. They are geeks, or non-datables... I don't think this is really true anymore - you would have to look fairly hard to find a guy that didn't play some kind of videogames, even those of marrying age. After all, guys in their 25-30s now were kids during the time of the Atari, arcades, and nintendo (approximately). And if you're mature you can figure out how to balance your games and your relationship, no different than any hobby to be honest. ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION \| Forum Whiners - Unite!
Arvald Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.08.01 18:46:00 - [19] a) That you play computer games i play computer games b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games im not 30 so no comment c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? you are a closet geek =D forum warrior in training Your signature is beyond the file size allowed on these forums. Email [email protected] if you have further questions. -Wachtmeister
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.01 18:48:00 - [20] Originally by: Jimmy Trevett B. If you are playing at age 30 then you need a girl. Why do people always say 'you need a girl'. Are they the key to life or something? Just get a hooker. They're cheaper and you only have to put up with em for a hour. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.08.01 18:49:00 - [21] Originally by: Tarminic Quote: B. If you are playing at age 30 then you need a girl. I fail to see why having a girlfriend and enjoying videogames are mutually exclusive. Originally by: DarkMatter I'm 34, and have both a woman(GF) and computer games & other manly toys/hobbies. Luckily this does not bother my woman. MOST women however, won't stand for it, and it causes relationship problems (My GF would probably not like it so much if we were married, and the game(s) interfered with the relationship) To the point, that there is a stigma against men who play computer games. They are geeks, or non-datables... I don't think this is really true anymore - you would have to look fairly hard to find a guy that didn't play some kind of videogames, even those of marrying age. After all, guys in their 25-30s now were kids during the time of the Atari, arcades, and nintendo (approximately). And if you're mature you can figure out how to balance your games and your relationship, no different than any hobby to be honest. Most women see playing a computer game anymore than 2 hours, a couple nights a week after work, as a problem. Not the kind of man they want, blah blah blah... Try playing EVE for 30 minutes, 3 times a week and see how much satisfaction you get from the game... Pretty much none... This is what a lot of men are faced with... My Infinity Ship Designs:T-Y9, Medium Hauler
Nachshon Caldari Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.08.01 19:01:00 - [22] Regarding women & games... I know many gamers who have SOs. One would be my father. Others include a few members of my corporation - who are married to each other. Anyway, as to your questions... a) When she asks what you like to do in your spare time, say 'computer games' b) I don't see a problem with this. If she says that computer games are childish, point out that they are no more childish than movies - and that the gaming industry is about as big as the film industry. c) If you play eve, you are a geek. Be proud of it. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.08.01 19:15:00 - [23] It's all in how you phrase it. "Do you watch much TV?" "I watch a couple of hours a night; who doesn't?" "I don't. How can you put up with staring at regurgitated content without ever using your brain? I'd rather read a book or play a video game and actually have a hand in entertaining myself. Besides, with today's video games mostly being online and multiplayer, it's a great way to get together with friends from other countries and do something together. And speaking of 'group activities'..." cue *** music*
Bosie Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.08.01 19:36:00 - [24] Originally by: Ja'kar a) That you play computer games b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? add your own Q/A a) I don't stare at a screen to see what the images say and do next, I interact with them. b)See above, "what your 40 and you watch 12 folks sitting in a house!!!!111" c)I play a game where I met and mingle with folks from all walks of life. I am 31 married with kids, my wife met me at a time when I was subbing to Eve and although my Eve time has varied and mainly decreased she excepts if as part of my life. The same way I accept Big Brother and all the other crap she watches as part of her life. If a woman is not going to take you for who you are, or wants to change you then get out of dodge as it will all end in tears. Got the t-shirt on that one. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND."
Kalahari Wayrest	Posted - 2007.08.01 19:40:00 - [25] Quote: a) That you play computer games b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? a) There's no way to make computer games sound cool, so just say as little as possible b) I don't think age is much of an issue, it's largely subjective depending on who you're talking to (and which games you're playing). For example, in WoW and Kal Online I've been told by a 17 year old and a 13 year old respectively that I'm too old to play video games (I'm 23). In EVE most of the community I play with see me as young c) It's a science fiction game where you play co-operatively and competitively, and interact with thousands of different people from all over the world. __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
Mari Onette Amarr	Posted - 2007.08.01 20:26:00 - [26] a) I don't mention it unless it comes up. There is a time and a place for conversations about games and usually it is not while meeting new people at parties. b) You are doing something you love. Maybe other people don't enjoy it the way you do, but they don't have to. c) A game of internet spaceships where things like spying and espionage are valid tactics. Don't want a corp building a ship? find their assembly array and go blow it up. Or gain access to their corp wallet and drain their coffers so they can't afford one. A lot of eve is more about working with other people then it is about pew pew lasers. ------ I am in blood! Stepp'd in so far that, should I wade no more, it would be as tedious as going over. -MacBeth
Plaetean Murder-Death-Kill Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.01 21:21:00 - [27] Originally by: Ja'kar c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? I've had serious problems with this one -----
Wild Rho Amarr Endgame.	Posted - 2007.08.01 21:24:00 - [28] I just tell most people I meet I'm a huge computer geek straight up. Doesn't bother me and I've never met anyone bothered by it either.
WGAnubis Marrith Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.01 21:54:00 - [29] I ask them to explain the diffrence between a video game and its RL counterpart when im asked what I play video games. Surprisingly that ussually gets them to change the subject.
Royaldo Gallente KVA Noble Inc. Institute of Cooperative Education	Posted - 2007.08.02 00:59:00 - [30] Originally by: Wild Rho I just tell most people I meet I'm a huge computer geek straight up. Doesn't bother me and I've never met anyone bothered by it either. this is true. i said to my gf, i play eve, its a online game, and i sometimes play it alot. she said, 'sometimes i like to be alone, listen to music and design my own clothes. i got no problems with your hobbies if you dont have any trouble with mine.' way better than: i got some exams next week, need to study alot online....with a headset and speak english in my room alone..
Royaldo Gallente KVA Noble Inc. Institute of Cooperative Education	Posted - 2007.08.02 01:14:00 - [31] listen..why are you all covering up the fact that you play games? cus some loser has been reading more books than you and now has more rights on the good sides of live than you? cus there is nothing such as a geek of anything else but games?.... please! a geek to me is someone who is so stuck on 1 subject that he cant keep up conversation without speaking about hes 1 subject. could be working out, diets, guitars, blackmetal(omg theres alot nerds within the metal ranks)etc etc. very much like someone infantil autistic traits tbfh.
Fendra Caldari Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.08.02 01:53:00 - [32] If they are so closed minded that they wont even get to know you because you play video games, they arent worth the time. Video gaming industry is bigger then Hollywood, and MMO's generally have a huge social side to them.
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.02 03:06:00 - [33] Originally by: Fendra If they are so closed minded that they wont even get to know you because you play video games, they arent worth the time. Video gaming industry is bigger then Hollywood, and MMO's generally have a huge social side to them. Sadly that is true. I actually have more in game friends than RL friends and even then half my RL friends are also in game friends. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Oriodus Skiddies of Doom	Posted - 2007.08.02 12:49:00 - [34] As i've written on my C.V/Resume for several years under the hobbies section: "Interested in electronic entertainment"...the only way to cover up the fact i'm a complete game-aholic using 'professional' grammar ;)
Trak Cranker Serenity Inc	Posted - 2007.08.02 13:49:00 - [35] This thread reminded me of this strip: http://www.xkcd.com/150/
Calvin Firenze Minmatar The Lunar Bin	Posted - 2007.08.02 15:38:00 - [36] If anyone ever gives you **** for being a gamer, you should quote the founder of wikipedia. "You sit at home all day on Sundays and watch sports with no human interaction and you call ME a nerd?" this is not a signature, whatever anyone has told you is false. look away
Chereadenine Zakalwe VENOM72 Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.02 16:47:00 - [37] Originally by: Bosie b)See above, "what your 40 and you watch 12 folks sitting in a house!!!!111" Win Fancy a change of scenery?
Jimmy Trevett	Posted - 2007.08.02 18:08:00 - [38] Quote: B. If you are playing at age 30 then you need a girl. That's the problem... I'm 34, and have both a woman(GF) and computer games & other manly toys/hobbies. Luckily this does not bother my woman. MOST women however, won't stand for it, and it causes relationship problems (My GF would probably not like it so much if we were married, and the game(s) interfered with the relationship) To the point, that there is a stigma against men who play computer games. They are geeks, or non-datables... So what's the lesson? Most women want marriage above all else. So it's up to us men to NOT give it to them IMO... Yea, thats the problem. Im not 30 but I am 24 and my wife playes games as do I.
Aura Noire	Posted - 2007.08.02 18:43:00 - [39] Who cares! I had an interview recently, and I struggled a bit with one question they asked me: "describe a situation when you had to work as a team" lets just say my answer started "I am bit of a online gaming geek.." Suffice to say I got the job :D
ThaMa Gebir Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.08.03 05:55:00 - [40] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Jimmy Trevett B. If you are playing at age 30 then you need a girl. Why do people always say 'you need a girl'. Are they the key to life or something? Just get a hooker. They're cheaper and you only have to put up with em for a hour. Win, pure and simple, just have a firewall or you might download a virus you didn't want, the worst are those that wait 9 months and the screw your life up right and proper... ---------------------------- Confirmed heaviest member of RDEX........ Hah, no more hijacks here.
Miss Anthropy School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.08.03 14:30:00 - [41] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Why do people always say 'you need a girl'. Are they the key to life or something? Well said. Aldous Huxley once said; "An intellectual is a person who has discovered something more interesting than sex." Hell is other people's ringtones.
Blacksilk Caldari Absolutely No Return	Posted - 2007.08.03 20:22:00 - [42] I see video games as a natural progression on from books. A good game with a good story is just like a good book, you cant put it down until you reach the end. Age? pffffft I play Eve at 36 and I enjoy it just as much as the next man - and why shouldn't anyone, regardless of age.
Mitch Manus Global Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.03 21:29:00 - [43] Originally by: Miss Anthropy Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Why do people always say 'you need a girl'. Are they the key to life or something? Well said. Aldous Huxley once said; "An intellectual is a person who has discovered something more interesting than sex." I guess i don't want to be an intellectual person then
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.03 21:37:00 - [44] Originally by: Mitch Manus Originally by: Miss Anthropy Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Why do people always say 'you need a girl'. Are they the key to life or something? Well said. Aldous Huxley once said; "An intellectual is a person who has discovered something more interesting than sex." I guess i don't want to be an intellectual person then I probably coulda had a girlfriend a long time ago if I could find someone with brains not just a ankles to ears type. I'm sorry but the stupid girl routine just ****es me off at times. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Monkeing around	Posted - 2007.08.03 22:04:00 - [45] a) That you play computer games I just tell people straight up, i hate anyone who does the whole 'say one thing mean another'. I Play Games and it's fun for me, i also read harry potter, and like long walks on beaches filled with the rotting corpses of my enemies b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games I only just hit the quarter century last month, and there is a sign i have on my front door that answer all three of these questions, which i will replicate for your viewing pleasure 'TAKE ME AS YOU FIND ME AND YOUR WELCOME TO MY LIFE....IF NOT ** OFF, YOUR NOT WORTH MY TIME' This sign is especially funny when the local god-bothers come round banging on peoples doors, most everyone get a few polite soft knocks. I get great whopping thumps on my door. SIDE NOTE - When these people come round i have taken to answering the door starkers and saying, 'This better be *** good, I just got the missus in the mood, and then you s turn up and interrupt me'. The horrified look on their face (especially the little old 70+ ladies faces is hysterical). c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek?** Can't be done so I don't bother, it just waste my time (which i could better spend entertaining myself - see side note) and they end up more confused than they were in the beginning.
Exortius Amarrus The Clearwater Society Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.08.04 01:29:00 - [46] Originally by: Jimmy Trevett Originally by: Ja'kar a) That you play computer games b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? A. I blow stuff up do you have a f**king problem with it? B. If you are playing at age 30 then you need a girl. C. Sorry, but you are. Reguard, Jimmy Trevett Weaksauce, if you can't have video games + girl you need to get your game up. Don't make silly excuses on forums. And yes, you're a geek, although i don't really see how that's entirely negative.
Pisi Mopsu NET Profit Trading	Posted - 2007.08.04 13:58:00 - [47] I'm a 32 year old single mom that plays. I've come to the conclusion that there is no way around the strange looks I get from people when I tell them I have to rush home to change a skill or take care of some other in game crisis. I have found that telling people it's something I play with my older son (he's 14) makes it a little more socially acceptable... at least to my family and friends! LOL
StevieSG	Posted - 2007.08.04 16:52:00 - [48] I think it's changing slowly anyways- Fanfest this year will be a good example.. I think one of the main points is that if it was a game that was more tangable- Like football, there wouldn't be such a stigma- The fact is that online gameing is in some ways, more social, highly stratigic and it's players are more committed to creating something constructive then those whos average passtime is- "Getting trashed" No offense to those that do that as well (I do that as well) but I guess it's just a question of being proud of what you do, taking it for it's merits and finding people who understand that. No age should come into it at all. It's better for the brain then vegging out. My two cents. SG A little inaccuracy sometimes saves a ton of explanation. MOLI+RE, L'Etourdi http://www.eve-online.tv/default.aspx
Dexter Rast Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.08.04 19:00:00 - [49] a) That you play computer games. i usualy just tell my mates at work that ive been playing online games, i never realy go indepth about it, if they show an interest and ask questions about it, then sure i tell them, but i usualy just `generalise` the whole subject b) At the age of 30 you still play computer games. yeah why not.. now at 31 i was brought up in a time when computers were being invented, throughout the whole of my life computers have been the cutting edge of technology, from playing football manager on the speccy 48k to the commodore amiga era i have always played computer games, they are fun, in alot of ways they are educational, and tbh if your not into technology you will be left behind c) How do you explain eve without sounding like a geek? sounding like a geek has more to do with your own perception of what you do rather than anoyone elses, if you pick people at random off the street, everyone of them will have something in thier life that others will reguard as `geekish` wether that be playing online games, linedancing, stamp/comic book collecting, trainspotting, birdwatching.... and the list would continue -------------------------------------------
Ja'kar Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.08.04 23:17:00 - [50] commodore ahhhh the old tape deck................................................................. 'CLICK... WTF!!!
Locus Bey Gallente Qalandar	Posted - 2007.08.05 01:07:00 - [51] "Yeh, I'm a Fleet Commander and I've got an important battle against the Goons, so I need to leave this date early tonight....," i wouldn't imagine is the best way of introducing your gaming habit to the unsuspecting As most people equate gaming with schoolboy behaviour, I don't generally advertise my EVE addiction. I'm 40, and have never considered myself a geek, besides you pass geekdom at 35 unless you play games that contain fantasy themes. Explaining the complexity of EVE just gets you into further trouble imo. Best let whoever discover your relationship with EVE via a change of skill training
Terail Zoqial	Posted - 2007.08.05 18:28:00 - [52] a) Games are the new TV, except that in todays games you get together with peeps from all around the world and go on great jopurneys together, or kill each other trying. b) It's the norm, it's what 'we' do these days. c) It's in space, you do pretty much whatever you like and it's a life changing/affirming experience...and really sociable to boot. I'm 31, reccently married and my wife knows i'm a gamer and isn't too bothered. I was and uber gamer a few months ago but I have calmed down and relationship stuff is cool. Been gaming for most of my life, from pong to whatever deccent games come out on the PC, or cheap games of ebay for my xbox Technology is the future, gaming is just part of it's joys.

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