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Arleonenis
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Posted - 2004.02.02 12:29:00 -
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it is theoretically possible, but
I was in tempest, friend of mine in megathrone and we use only guns... after an hour we managed to kill him.
If you are in typhoon you have chance in 1on1 if you use torps this is best weapon against him and load emp shells to those 1400mm
and don`t go to close this a$$hole have mwd and disruptor range of 30km.
And forget the defenders i don`t know if this is new bug but when i try to get some distance with npc and fire defenders speed of my ship goes to 0, this is "best" way to be catched in disruptor range and lose ship...
Oh remember to use em and thermal hardeners and xlarge booster this rat fire cruise missle in rate of: one cruise each 2 sec and usually don`t stop fire
He also have xlarge booster running on auto all the time so use emp ammo and torps with em damage
Good luck to you
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:14:00 -
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Could someone please tell how to get this Zor mission?
I have a Caldari faction standing of 4.91 so I have access to most Caldari lvl 3 agents.
Thank you.
 Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.02.02 23:23:00 -
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Just a quick question for those who've fought against Zor and his accompanying cruisers.
Would a reasonably well equipped Typhoon, with a pilot with reasonably high level in skills (apart from battleship, will probably only have that at 3 by the time I go hunting in it) have a good chance against him? By high level I mean either level 4 or 5 in pretty much all related combat skills with the exception of EW.
Up until now I've never used battleships but given the way agent missions are going I've decided I am going to have to bite the bullet and use one. I only have Min ship skills so am sticking with Min battleships, and whilst I could afford a Tempest its a lil too expensive for my tastes.
Just finished fighting Zor in my Typhoon...
He was a pushover. Drones ate the escorts, as usual. Then Zor and I got into a slugfest. He lost...badly.
But my Typhoon isn't anywhere near a standard config.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Arleonenis
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Posted - 2004.02.03 01:36:00 -
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JAzz it is very rare mission, in loot you could be able to earn even a 100m of isk, so you could get one for few days of hard mission running
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Cirle
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Posted - 2004.02.03 02:44:00 -
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Well, Zor just killed my Tempest after a 40+min fight..
after i went through my 118 defenders, he just widdled me down, and it seemed as thou he was boosting too cause he never lost more then a third of his shields, and when guns were off he quickly went back up...
Yup, shields seem to recharge fast... first time I was using torps, and ran out, and my guns never got close. Managed to warp out (fortunately) and came back with heavies (thunderbolt). They did the trick a treat. Torps were too cost ineffective, I think... however, it was scary to watch three 425s with medium ammunition not making the shields go down... :|
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.02.03 05:34:00 -
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Well, Zor just killed my Tempest after a 40+min fight..
after i went through my 118 defenders, he just widdled me down, and it seemed as thou he was boosting too cause he never lost more then a third of his shields, and when guns were off he quickly went back up...
Yup, shields seem to recharge fast... first time I was using torps, and ran out, and my guns never got close. Managed to warp out (fortunately) and came back with heavies (thunderbolt). They did the trick a treat. Torps were too cost ineffective, I think... however, it was scary to watch three 425s with medium ammunition not making the shields go down... :|
Cirle
Typhoon:
4x 800mm + 4 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile (1 Paradise + 3 Cataclysm Cruise missiles).
No defenders and I was armor tanking. Zor never got the Typhoon past 3/4ths armor. And I lost about 200 structure during the fight.
I wasted a lot of cap trying to mwd closer to him despite being webified + running the large armor repairer on autorepeat + running em/kin armor hardeners that I did not need.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.03 06:13:00 -
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People are scared of missiles way to much. I am sorry, but I can see no reason to lose a BShip to zor. There is not a bship out there that can not fit 2-3 thermal tac shields. Once this is done, zor is a joke. Don't worry bout defenders and sbombs. They are inefficient at best, and not needed for this type of battle. Tank the damage. Use EM cruise/torps to batter the shields down. Once you thru the big shields on zor, he goes down quickly.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.02.03 07:24:00 -
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JAzz it is very rare mission, in loot you could be able to earn even a 100m of isk, so you could get one for few days of hard mission running
Thank you.
Guess I'll just start working for the Caldari Navy and hope for the best.
I want me a piece of Zor!
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Cirle
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Posted - 2004.02.03 08:51:00 -
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No defenders and I was armor tanking. Zor never got the Typhoon past 3/4ths armor. And I lost about 200 structure during the fight.
I wasted a lot of cap trying to mwd closer to him despite being webified + running the large armor repairer on autorepeat + running em/kin armor hardeners that I did not need.
Sounds about right... the trick definitely seems to be to just pound the shields, and if you can get through them then you have no problem.
How many cruise did you use in the end?
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.02.03 14:23:00 -
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Sounds about right... the trick definitely seems to be to just pound the shields, and if you can get through them then you have no problem.
How many cruise did you use in the end?
Cirle
Around 20-30. More important is tuning the damage to fit the situation. The 800mm were 3 loaded with EMP and 1 loaded with Fusion, till the shields went down, then 1 EMP and 3 Fusion. And the drones were all Praetor (emp damage) + the Paradise cruise launcher.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Cirle
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Posted - 2004.02.03 15:03:00 -
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How many cruise did you use in the end?
Around 20-30. More important is tuning the damage to fit the situation. The 800mm were 3 loaded with EMP and 1 loaded with Fusion, till the shields went down, then 1 EMP and 3 Fusion. And the drones were all Praetor (emp damage) + the Paradise cruise launcher.
Sadly, the choice of ammunition type is limited with rails, but shifting the missiles entirely to emp seems to work, then the hybrid ammunition is quite effective on the armour.
Do the drones get targetted at all, or caught in splash damage?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.02.03 15:57:00 -
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A typhoon should do it easily tbh, in much the same way as a tempest does. If you have a fiddle with reactor upgrades you can squeeze on 4 1400's to go with the 4 missiles. Large shield booster, thermal hardener ... (2 more to personal taste in the mids) Couple of weapon mods in low, 2-3 reactor mods (depending on skill) couple of cap chargers.
You are looking to pot the escorts at high range (the typhoons optimal boost may help) and you can begin to soak up the Raven's shields with paradise while doing this.
Once escorts are dead then you turn guns on Zor, and while soaking the 120 per strike from the reduced incoming cruise damage (thermal hardeners) you have plenty of time to blast zor to bits.
Mid slot options?
A mwd will let you diengage from cruise range if it all gets too hot,
or more hardeners/amps/whatever to make it easier.
No problem really.
More battleships to kill please Papa Smurf!
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.02.03 16:19:00 -
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More battleships to kill please Papa Smurf!
Agreed. I only have 2 reason for doing agent missions right now;
1) Hoping to get a battleship kill mission
2) Getting implants, which I never do, except from Zor possibly... Have never gotten that mission though.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.02.03 16:20:00 -
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Sadly, the choice of ammunition type is limited with rails, but shifting the missiles entirely to emp seems to work, then the hybrid ammunition is quite effective on the armour.
Do the drones get targetted at all, or caught in splash damage?
Cirle
You really don't have to switch hybrid ammunitions except to tune the range between yourself and the target. Hybrid ammo does excellent against both shields and armor.
The drones + the missile types used against Zor was prolly more helpful. A swarm of heavy drones + cruise missiles chosen specifically for shield damage help to batter the shield down. I came back light on drones but I suspect they got squished in the exchange of missiles.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2004.02.03 19:35:00 -
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Edited by: Rancid Mare on 03/02/2004 19:48:30
Edited by: Rancid Mare on 03/02/2004 19:37:08
one scorp.
two Thermal hardners
one xlarge shiled booster.
3x425mm's with AM
3xheavy laucnhers with mix of torps/heavys as dropped by other mission rats.
it really isnt that hard.
you can see from the eve time bottom left took all of 6 mins.
also note the twin MWD so greatly reduced shileds and caps.
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Mori'Dae
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Posted - 2004.02.03 22:42:00 -
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Zor really wasn't all that bad. I flew an Apoc.
3 Tachs, 1mega, 2 Med Hvy, 1 M12, 1 H-50. Radio/Micro crystals in all guns, defenders and cruise. Only used 1 Thermal hardener. Just kept him at range. Defenders took care of half his missles, shield hardener dealt with the rest. Took a little bit of time to widdle him down, but he wasn't as bad as i had feared.
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