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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.01.31 00:07:00 -
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Just a quick question for those who've fought against Zor and his accompanying cruisers.
Would a reasonably well equipped Typhoon, with a pilot with reasonably high level in skills (apart from battleship, will probably only have that at 3 by the time I go hunting in it) have a good chance against him? By high level I mean either level 4 or 5 in pretty much all related combat skills with the exception of EW.
Up until now I've never used battleships but given the way agent missions are going I've decided I am going to have to bite the bullet and use one. I only have Min ship skills so am sticking with Min battleships, and whilst I could afford a Tempest its a lil too expensive for my tastes.
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.01.31 01:21:00 -
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You want a tempest on it quite honostly... You just cant deal enough dmg with a typhoon (sure 4x arba's with cruises can hurt... but that will mean you will pay more in terms of missles as what you would get out of the bounty ;))
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Aran'gar
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Posted - 2004.01.31 02:27:00 -
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A small launcher with defenders would be a good idea in my oppinion.. fast ROF and you can reload in the time it takes the large launchers to fire....
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Camar
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Posted - 2004.01.31 02:44:00 -
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Edited by: Camar on 31/01/2004 02:50:44
Just went up against him, had help from a few friends though. Tempest might be able to take him on 1vs1, 3 launchers with defenders and 5 1400's and thermal-hardner. Mwd could be a good thing as well to keep the distance 
Sensorbooster might be a good idea as well if you can get even further out then 70km...
***had to edit em-hardner to thermal considering he fires more thermal? cruise-missiles then em***
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.31 18:03:00 -
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solo'd in a tempest 1st time, apoc second. Warp in at 60, do a 180 moving away. em torps or cruise-- emp l or radio L. Once it's shields are gone, move towards it. Doesn't have much armor, seems the shields are the toughest to deal with. Run 2 thermal hardeners. Zor seems to reload.
BTW for others, you get drops from Zor that... a raven shouldn't have? I got a Mega Modal Afocal Maser.. no idea what a raven doing runnin round with one. (Named Megabeam)
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Ithilgore
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Posted - 2004.01.31 18:52:00 -
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solo'd in a tempest 1st time, apoc second. Warp in at 60, do a 180 moving away. em torps or cruise-- emp l or radio L. Once it's shields are gone, move towards it. Doesn't have much armor, seems the shields are the toughest to deal with. Run 2 thermal hardeners. Zor seems to reload.
BTW for others, you get drops from Zor that... a raven shouldn't have? I got a Mega Modal Afocal Maser.. no idea what a raven doing runnin round with one. (Named Megabeam)
I got bad loot from him, exept the standard +4 perception implant.
Mission npc's must be realy confused with what type of ammo & guns they use 
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Yukka Detac
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Posted - 2004.01.31 19:02:00 -
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Don't forget to insure your ship! :)
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.01.31 19:13:00 -
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Am I really the *only* one who thought about using a scorpion with something like 4x multispectrals (to jam Zor), XL Shield booster, thermal/EM/kin hardeners or something like that?
Hardeners to catch up with the escort cruiser damage, of course.
Should work, right?
(Yes he gets jammed by the multis)
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Atinia
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Posted - 2004.01.31 19:19:00 -
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Anyone know what kinda guns Zor has, besides rockets?
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.01.31 21:14:00 -
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Anyone know what kinda guns Zor has, besides rockets?
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No guns at all. He ONLY fire thermal cruise missiles.
His friends has guns though...
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Atinia
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Posted - 2004.01.31 21:26:00 -
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Just a though, a Blackbird with 4 to 6 of those ECCMs that gives -4 on each radar type, would that be enough to jam him?
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SLIM
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Posted - 2004.01.31 21:45:00 -
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Soloing him in a dominix is easy. Just use hardeners, lots of hardeners :) Scorp should be near-invincible.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.01.31 22:08:00 -
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Just a though, a Blackbird with 4 to 6 of those ECCMs that gives -4 on each radar type, would that be enough to jam him?
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If you mean Multispectrals, yes... But on a blackbird, you wouldn't be able to run them for long enough.
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Atinia
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Posted - 2004.01.31 22:39:00 -
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Would you need 4 or 6, or any other number, to jam him?
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.01.31 22:45:00 -
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Thanks for the replies folks. I'll let you know if I survive my first attempt, probably wait till I get my battleship skills up a bit more though lol.
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2004.01.31 23:46:00 -
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Well, Zor just killed my Tempest after a 40+min fight..
after i went through my 118 defenders, he just widdled me down, and it seemed as thou he was boosting too cause he never lost more then a third of his shields, and when guns were off he quickly went back up...
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munzh drazhkwood
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Posted - 2004.02.01 11:51:00 -
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i would think that the best loadout would be 4 med smartbombs set on auto + 4 1400 artys (for typhoon anyway), + some shield hardeners + shield booster. Timed propably + some decent skill in errr... smartbombing  (canŠt remember the name) not many of his missiles would get through. And on a sidenote, donŠt start fireing all guns at the same time, time it good and you have 3 fireing at him constantly.
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Ciber Wulf
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Posted - 2004.02.01 12:07:00 -
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He does rebuild his shield quickly doesnt he? I had him down to hull and mistimed it so I had to reload guns and launchers at the same time. By the time I started firing again his shield was back up to 2/3. 
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.02.01 12:39:00 -
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Ouch, that shield regen is certainly a helluva lot faster than any other ship I've ever encountered. Which means I not only have to have a good missile defence but a lot of firepower to get past his shields.
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Tirren
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Posted - 2004.02.01 14:06:00 -
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I was wondering if it would be even possible to take him on in a Cruiser. I tend to run either a Vexor/Thorax with 2 250mm railguns that fire anywhere from 35k-45k away for opt range. I also use 2-3 SB's to defend against missiles since I have no launcher points to use defenders. MWD to keep distance, a shield booster, and either a hardner or cap recharge on board for well thats sort of obvious. How far out would I have to be to be safe, how fast can he get with his AB/MWD, and how far of a jamming range does he have. Are his friends faster/slower.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.02.01 14:15:00 -
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NO, it's a Raven, a BS, and he brings friends
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Phaethon
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Posted - 2004.02.01 15:47:00 -
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Maybe, just maybe u could take him on in a caracal with 5 launchers with torps or cruise and 2 mwd's.
basic idea would be to have a good clone, insurance and then sit at 50+ km and launch missiles, then fire both mwd's at the same time to "relocate" yourself about 80 km leaving his cruise's hanging in mid air.
basicly your would be drawing a triangle or square with him in the center.
I suggest u try to take out his friends first
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Al Thorr
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Posted - 2004.02.01 15:53:00 -
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Tried the caracal option with sensor boosters.
took out the 2 escorts and got his shields down via paradise .. then the defenders get out of sync and got hit with a volley of devastaor cruise.. 2nd volley nearly pod killed me but took away my can.. this is definately a group mission imo
Now know better :)
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.02.01 16:51:00 -
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NPC missiles can't podkill you anymore, only player missiles, and a group mission, I say it's a BS mission, not a lot of cruisers can deal with the cruise missiles he spawns, BSs can.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.02.01 17:30:00 -
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... A small tidbit kind of overlooked so far, but might help. You should be able to target-jam Zor with 4 multispectral ecm modules. :s
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2004.02.01 18:42:00 -
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Since when j0sph?
Last i tried EW against a NPC nothing happened
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Saeromar
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Posted - 2004.02.01 19:22:00 -
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Hmm, question......How would one equip a Apoc against Zor & Friends?
Going at him without insurance I guess is pretty dumb hehe, so thinkin of dumping that mission at the moment but would appreciate any advice how to battle Zor with a Apoc :)
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Mangold
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Posted - 2004.02.01 19:53:00 -
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Has anyone actually tried to jam Zor?
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Atinia
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Posted - 2004.02.01 20:19:00 -
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Zor has 15 in strength on all his radars:
http://www.eve-db.com/evedb/show_misc.php?typeID=12256
So 4 multispectral will work.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.02.01 21:43:00 -
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Hmm, question......How would one equip a Apoc against Zor & Friends?
Going at him without insurance I guess is pretty dumb hehe, so thinkin of dumping that mission at the moment but would appreciate any advice how to battle Zor with a Apoc :)
A thermal hardner a shield booster, some defenders, and guns, it's a NPC not Jim Raynor lol
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