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Mos Superum
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.08 18:47:00 -
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Well -- I did it. 3+ hours of ratting in low sec. Followed Ard's suggestions here and the tips from my gang mate, a fella I met in Eve-Uni pub channel who offered to ghost me in case I ran into trouble.
I ran into 2 pirates -- neither of whom chased me. They sort of scared me both being in the same station in 0.3 space, but when I undocked, they didn't follow.
Low sec ratting was profitable. Sadly, I couldn't bring much in the way of loot with my Incursus. I think I put too powerful blasters on it -- didn't have much cap either with the MWD. I had to warp out a few times when I over-aggro'd, but I would come back and circle targets close and blast away without too much injury.
All in all -- a fun outing, and I'll try solo'ing next time.
Thanks again for the encouragement, Ard.
Mos Superum
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Pranja Jones
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Posted - 2007.08.08 19:01:00 -
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Great thread Ard! I just wanted to throw my 2 isk in as a new player, about 18 days old.
By day 3 I was bored to death with Eve hi-sec and made my way into low sec (0.1 to 0.4)space and have been hooked ever since!
I don't get a chance to play much with RL getting in the way, so hit it after the wife and kids go to bed for an hour or two. No better way to relax!
Here are a couple of things that I'd like to add from my experiences:
1. Low sec and 0.0 are totally different animals- 0.0 corps defend their turf. Meet the locals, get to know them and you reduce the risk of getting ganked. I've even had a local corp chase off gate campers and pirates then tell me to yell if I needed anything. Low-sec is more flow like a river- some nights it's hide and seek, while others are just rats. Some nights I'm solo and each fill of my rifters hold nets me 6-10 mil in loot and salvage. I've ganged with some really fun ratters other nights and made 20 mil in an hour and a half!
2. Use your map "statistics" and know where the ships, pods are being killed and where people are jumping to. I also like to check out the system map and learn the lay of the land. I like the spread out systems vs the clumps. I hunt the dead (no jump) systems solo vs the multi gate.
3. EW is your best friend! Learn how to defend vs it and use it! I only have level 1 in most and level 2 in a few but EW has got me out of a few little messes.
4. Listen to and read what everyone has to say. Then filter it to what you enjoy doing. Yes I may lack in skills and may develope slower than someone else would like, but who cares? Join a corp or solo, makes no difference as long as you are enjoying your play time be it an hour or 23/7.
5. You will lose a ship every now and then but a loaded rifter costs less than 1 mil isk so once again, who cares? And getting podded is no big deal either, I've got a clone. Why would I play a game with fear? Relax, sip your favorite beverage and have fun!
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Jonny Magellan
Amarr
Edyta Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.08.08 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Jonny Magellan on 08/08/2007 20:25:08
Very good write up. I too am new to the game and been in low sec and 0.0 since day one. In fact I think most new players try to get into low sec since EVE is mostly known as "the closest thing to UO" in the pvp communities and I belive the largest chunk of EVE's new players come from there.
Not all is sweet though, I am having trouble finding the pvp I crave. On low sec you wont find any good targets unless you re ganged and though I ve joined a corp they re more concerned with fleet ops which I loath. Most pirates have BC and above in order to tank sentries and so are out of my league as a new player.
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Cipher7
OldBastardsPub
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.09 01:07:00 -
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It's really heartening to see new guys who really understand what the Eve experience is all about.
There are literally 500 online games out there where you can run quests/missions and mine without anybody being able to flip your can or suicide gank you or steal your mission wreck, most of them have MUCH better PVE content than Eve.
If PVE is what you want, save yourself time and money and play a better game.
What differentiates Eve from everything else are a number of really cool concepts.
1) Sovereignty. The feeling of being in a piece of space and saying, "this, all this, is my HOME. If we lose, we don't lose "honor" we lose our HOME, our freaking HOME." Which opens up a number of interesting political situations and really gives you something worth fighting for.
2) Unconsentual PVP aka "surprise sex" Did the B17's fly lower to give the faschisti a fair fight? It's not supposed to be fair, it's supposed to be WAR.
3) Dark, seedy, culture with slavery, drugs and crime. In this world there is much weeping and gnashing of teeth. Your job is to make sure it's someone else doing the gnashing.
Without those things, Eve isn't Eve, it's just WoW clone #8642.
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Verona Mal
The Drop Outs
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Posted - 2007.08.09 20:08:00 -
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This is one of the only threads in the entire EVE forums that I've actually enjoyed reading in its entirety. Ard and others bring up a lot of great points, but I think there's too much focus on the PVP going on in low sec to fully explain the depth of EVE.
There are a lot of people who feel that EVE is pew pew PVP, which I think is wrong and keeps a lot of people away from the game. As I'm finding, you can have a lot of fun playing EVE your own way. I look forward to building a high sec industrialist to supply PVPers and build my own little commercial empire. Along the way I get to run missions, immerse myself in market PVP, and maneuver myself into a corporation whose goals align with mine. Market PVP in EVE isn't just undercutting your opponent by 0.01 ISK, it's controlling a market sector in the same way that an alliance can own a piece of 0.0 space. Can I find this sort of depth in any other MMO? Hells no. PVP drives the economy, but beyond that I have no desire to engage in it.
However, reading a thread like this really lets me understand the motivation behind PVP and the force that drives EVE. I'd never understood how the EVE market has such high demand for goods all the time. In any other MMO the 'market' is constantly flooded and fairly worthless because people only need new items to trade up... there is no loss in the game and there is no strategy. There's no real danger. It's a shallow experience for everyone. In EVE, with people constantly destroying each other's stuff, it becomes pretty obvious that there will be a constant demand.
Players like Ard make the game fun for me by creating a meaningful market and I make the game fun for Ard by making sure there's a fresh ship waiting for him when he's blown up the one he's currently flying. Just don't forget there's two sides to every coin and not every carebear stays in high sec because he's scared.
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Ard UnjiiGo
Dastardly Bastards
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Posted - 2007.08.10 01:22:00 -
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(Apologies in advance. This post kinda grew. I hope that if you take the time to read it you enjoy it and I believe rookies interested in low-sec will find some good stuff in it. There are also quite a few questions that could really use a vetÆs experience.)
Great post and observations Verona! This last week, along with posts by others here, has me really appreciating the "ecology" of EVE that you describe. Currently, I'm afraid, I am near the bottom of the food chain. I think this past week I might have risen to feral cat status but still a long, long ways from low-sec prowling lion.
I want to return to your post, however, before I do I feel like it's a good time to share a few more experiences so that folks following the thread and thinking about coming down here have a good idea what they are getting into, as many folks have advocated. Yesterday and the day before were gravy days and today was a lumps day.
Highlights, Lessons Learned and Questions for Others
Tuesday's Highlight: A lot happened but the most interesting thing was that one of our corp members, Mr. Bodacious, was out scouting for targets. He found one but as he calls us all to come the fella asks him in local if he wants to frig duel. So Boda says "sure". Boda asks us to stand down. Three of us decide to go to the gate where it's going to happen to watch and do our best if the 1v1 isn't honored (everyone should begin quaking from T1 fitted RifterSwarm fear now ). Meanwhile Boda heads back to drop his T2 guns for an all T1 fit. Boda returns, we're all there and the two of them get to it. Boda gets popped. In corp chat he begins telling us that he's disappointed: the guy was using T2 gear. We're orbiting the fella and yapping about it and what would be an acceptable thing to do (We're all so new we have no idea if this was "unsportsmanlike" or what.). Fortunately, the decision was taken out of our hands as the guy starts pew pewing the newest one of our members. We all pounce on him and in the end walked away with much of his T2 gear. We didn't pod him for two reasons: 1) he didn't try to pod Boda after the duel 2) He had a 5k isk bounty and it seemed funnier to let him keep running around with it .
Lesson Learned: Backing up a 1v1 can be rewarding and more fun than you might at first think and try not to underestimate the power of a Newbie RifterSwarm (queue ominous music here ).
Question: If someone asks you to a frig/cruiser/"what-have-you" duel, is it assumed you should do it in T1 unless otherwise talked about and agreed to? Where is EVE Ms. Manners when you need her?
Wednesday's Highlight: Three of us are scanning home system and there are some likely targets. We decide to try a bait approach this time for a change. We send Boda out since he's got low sec status and a bounty (I gave him a 5k one after Tuesday as a remembrance.  ). So he starts cruising the belts ratting and runs into a guy in a Cruiser (Boda is in a Destroyer). The guy asks Boda in local if he wants to duel (Boda is some kinda cosmic duel magnet.) ;he's got a new fit he wants to try. Boda tells him to kick a can out. The guy refuses and says "Let's go to your safe to do it.". Boda says nothing and the guy starts approaching him. Boda begins smelling something suspiciously "ratty". He calls out to us to "Come NOW". We warp in and squish him. Tried to scram his pod but that is damn hard to do. A minute later local is filled with smack. He complains that we didn't honor the 1v1. Boda basically responds "What 1v1?" We all just do our thing: "GF","Yeah, you were outgunned but you did good.". He keeps swearing and tells us to "watch your backs". Boda tells him we'd like to have him as a stalker and that's the end of it. Accept it's not. He was around today but wouldn't go to the belts.
(cont)
"the Yarr is strong with this one"
-Azirapheal |
Ard UnjiiGo
Dastardly Bastards
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Posted - 2007.08.10 01:25:00 -
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We smelled something funny again and one of our guys that was out of the system warps in to a system next to ours and scans a couple BSs camping the gate outside our system. Then this guy leaves our system and joins them . We just ignored him all day. The BSs leave and he spends a few hours jumping from station to station.
Lessons Learned:
1) Trust your corp mates in combat situations. If you donÆt trust them then they or you should be in a different corp. When a corp mate says ôCome NOWö, get there as fast as you can, find your target and start pew pewing. Ask questions later (Be sure you want to know the answers before asking them.) .
2) Be more than just slightly paranoid of everyone not in your corp/alliance. This is low-sec. This is EVE.
Questions:
1)When we decided to give this a try we agreed we wanted to be a reputable newb pie corp (feel free to laugh here) since many of the start-ups seem to have a lousy reputation. We arenÆt entirely sure what constitutes ôreputableö for a pirate corp but we all agree to honor ransoms and honor 1v1 if the corp member is inclined to do those (Me personally, in a game like EVE, I donÆt see the point of 1v1. I have corp mates if I want to test a fit. But to each their own.). We donÆt see the above situation as failing to honor a 1v1 since the guy refused to kick a can and then Boda never agreed to the alternative that he proposed (ôTake me to your safe.öàlike weÆre going to take someone not in our corp to our safes  .) and then he began closing distance with Boda. Are we wrong? How do more experienced players see it?
2)So two duel requests in two days for Boda. BodaÆs character is less than a month old. He was flying a T1 fitted frig the first one and a Destroyer when he encountered the Cruiser. Both of the folks that asked to duel him had older accounts ( I think one was like 8 months and the other over a year.) and were both in better ships (T2 pimped-out frig and a Cruiser). Is this what 1v1 is about for most people that seek it in EVE? Find someone you clearly overmatch in gear and SPs to ôtest your fitö? I welcome someone with a different perspective on 1v1 to play devilÆs advocate since in my admittedly short experience ôhonorable combatö and 1v1 donÆt seem to quite jive.
3)Are there any good tricks that make it easier to scram someoneÆs pod?
Today
Our small band of scurvy dogs (well, puppies might be more apt) has grown some in the last week. So a few more of us than usual were on and decided (since the guy from Tuesday wouldnÆt leave a station) to go out and find some bigger things to pew pew. IÆll leave out the gory details (like the Bellicose that three of us in frigs went after only to have a buddy of his in a Hound warp in and smash us to pieces) but we had the snot smacked out of us across three systems today by AFs, HACs and other things that I wonÆt be flying for a little while. If my wife utters the words ôstealth bomberö anytime in the next few days I think I might have a PTSD flashback episode (ôWTF!!!!... KILLL HIMMM!!! àNOOOOO!!!!.... WARP!! à.WARP!!! WARP DAMN YOU!!!....damnà.iÆll see your pod or clone back at the HQ brotherö) that will result in me sleeping on the couch for the next week and being pressured to cancel my EVE subscription.
Lessons Learned
1)When engaging someone spam your scanner at 360 constantly. I have not been doing this and will forevermoreàI swear.
2)You can never be too good with a scanner. It takes practice... a lot of practice for some of us (okàokàmeàI need more practice).
3)If youÆre a small frig/destroyer pack hunting something larger flying solo donÆt ALL jump into the system you want to check out. Send a scout to look for targets while the pack waits a system or two away. The target you are looking for may not be solo. He may have friends. They may be hunting for a group like yours. They will likely be better at scanning than you.
(cont)
"the Yarr is strong with this one"
-Azirapheal |
Ard UnjiiGo
Dastardly Bastards
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Posted - 2007.08.10 01:29:00 -
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4)Make safes in all the surrounding systems that you might prowl and be sure everyone in the corp has them bookmarked.
5)We have always talked after an engagement about what we did well and what could have been better regardless of whether we won or lost. After todayÆs beatings we were inspired to set up a corp-only internet forum so that we can process these things in a little bit more depth and with more reflection.
6)There is no Gravy without some Lumps.
Questions
After a whooping like todayÆs I know that there are questions I should be able to ask of vets. Unfortunately my head is still spinning so fast I donÆt know what they are. Maybe after I sleep on it.
Getting back to VeronaÆs post:
"Players like Ard make the game fun for me by creating a meaningful market and I make the game fun for Ard by making sure there's a fresh ship waiting for him when he's blown up the one he's currently flying."
Would you please make more Rifters, Kestrels and 150mm and 200mm ACs? Our region of space is running awfully low. 
WeÆre still having a great time, learning everyday from our opponents and each other, meeting more good folks and get a rush from it all. So back to VeronaÆs post one last time for a final lesson learned:
Find your niche in EVE or perish of boredom or incompetence.
PS- Stoked you are having a good time Mos!
"the Yarr is strong with this one"
-Azirapheal |
modarb
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Posted - 2007.08.10 12:45:00 -
[69]
right im off to low security space...highest quality agent is in hrober(.3)..
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Midgard Onslaught
Dastardly Bastards
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Posted - 2007.08.10 16:44:00 -
[70]
 Originally by: Verona Mal
This is one of the only threads in the entire EVE forums that I've actually enjoyed reading in its entirety. Ard and others bring up a lot of great points, but I think there's too much focus on the PVP going on in low sec to fully explain the depth of EVE.
There are a lot of people who feel that EVE is pew pew PVP, which I think is wrong and keeps a lot of people away from the game. As I'm finding, you can have a lot of fun playing EVE your own way. I look forward to building a high sec industrialist to supply PVPers and build my own little commercial empire. Along the way I get to run missions, immerse myself in market PVP, and maneuver myself into a corporation whose goals align with mine. Market PVP in EVE isn't just undercutting your opponent by 0.01 ISK, it's controlling a market sector in the same way that an alliance can own a piece of 0.0 space. Can I find this sort of depth in any other MMO? Hells no. PVP drives the economy, but beyond that I have no desire to engage in it.
However, reading a thread like this really lets me understand the motivation behind PVP and the force that drives EVE. I'd never understood how the EVE market has such high demand for goods all the time. In any other MMO the 'market' is constantly flooded and fairly worthless because people only need new items to trade up... there is no loss in the game and there is no strategy. There's no real danger. It's a shallow experience for everyone. In EVE, with people constantly destroying each other's stuff, it becomes pretty obvious that there will be a constant demand.
Players like Ard make the game fun for me by creating a meaningful market and I make the game fun for Ard by making sure there's a fresh ship waiting for him when he's blown up the one he's currently flying. Just don't forget there's two sides to every coin and not every carebear stays in high sec because he's scared.
Perhaps we could talk to form some kind of business agreement between you and the Dastardly Bastards :) convo me 
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Simon Jax
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.10 17:49:00 -
[71]
IÆve been wanting to reply to this thread since post one. Problem is, I enjoyed reading it so much that now IÆm running out of time so I have to be brief. Most everything is covered admirably throughout this thread.
I started this game as terrified of lowsec as the next guy. It always freaked me out and I lost ships frequently to the ôunsavoryö characters therein. However, my biggest recommendation to get out there and lose ships. IÆm not kidding. Buy and equip 10 Frigates of your choice. Haul them to a location adjacent to lowsec. Go out and rat/run missions until those 10 ships are lost. Do nothing else but that.
I can guarantee you that as long as you are trying to learn from your mistakes, you will do so. By the time youÆve lost your 5th Frigate, youÆll be immune to the roaming gank-squads. YouÆll move on to different systems, using the map to find good ones, youÆll discover that avoiding gate camps is simple with a little forethought, and youÆll find that by the time youÆve lost that 10th Frigate youÆll either love or hate lowsec. Most importantly, when you lose that 10th Frigate, youÆll be over that ôloss-shockö that ends up paralyzing most people who lose ships to player pirates.
So, maybe itÆs not for you. No one is saying that itÆs for everybody. But the fact of the matter is that you have more control over your experiences in lowsec than you think you do.
IÆd also like to comment on the nature of PvE in lowsec. Someone commented that ôscordite is the most valuable ore, so why go into lowsecö. Why? Because while youÆre moving from 30k unit rock to 30k unit rock in your hisec system IÆm parked on a mass of 125k unit rocks of the same stuff while my buddy (or alt) hauls it to station until something threatens. Spend some time in a system and youÆll get to know your neighbors. I earned the friendship of a tried and true pirate corp accidentally in my travels. I sat in their system mining or ratting as I wished while they (the ôunsavory piratesö) were ganking anyone passing through.
*sigh* so much more I want to say, but no more time in which to say it. Peace.
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Wherever you go, there you are.
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Mr Bodacious
Dastardly Bastards
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Posted - 2007.08.12 19:26:00 -
[72]
har har, bring it tony "loudmouth" banderas...
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Rhokarnon
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Posted - 2007.08.13 11:42:00 -
[73]
Ard, you are da man! If I had spotted this thread earlier, I would probably be living in low-sec by now. This is by far the most honest and informative information I have yet to find regarding low-sec and 0.0. I applaud your effort to help noobs like myself get a handle on the basic intricacies of low-sec. I look forward to either fighting with or getting 'ploded by you and your mates! Since reading this post from the beginning, low-sec and 0.0 doesn't sound so scary and ominous. Won't be a cakewalk and will probably lose alot of ships but you can't enjoy an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Cheers!
(starts stocking up on rifters)
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Ard UnjiiGo
Dastardly Bastards
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Posted - 2007.08.13 18:22:00 -
[74]
I'm glad it got you psyched to come down here and see how the lower half lives! Just to clarify. Nothing I've said concerns null sec (0.0). Null sec is a totally different bag as other much more knowledgeable posters in the thread have pointed out. I've spent a little time in null sec but not much. Stick to low sec until you know more about the politics and power holders of the area of null sec that intrigues you. Fly safe except when I see you - then feel free to be afk if you like .
"the Yarr is strong with this one"
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Echo Xeroth
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Posted - 2007.08.14 18:30:00 -
[75]
Excellent post! Thanks for the Advice.
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Mos Superum
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.22 14:30:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Mos Superum on 22/08/2007 14:31:38
How old must a thread be before one inadvertently "necros" it? 
Ard -- THANK YOU. I'm slowly drifting out to low sec on a regular basis, with well-insured ships (cheaply fitted), my local chat separated for easy reference, and my scanner going non-stop.
0.4 space can be relatively quiet for those of you just starting out in low-sec -- just use the universe map (show podkills and ships destroyed in last hour and 24 hours), keep an eye on local, and bookmark the hell out of your routes between asteroid belts. I found a cluster of 0.4 space the other night that only had 1-2 people in each system. We politely waved at each other if we entered each other's ratting belts and went on our way. If anything, my negative sec rating (see below) was helpful in keeping me untouched. Well...until whomever warped in saw that I was in a glass cannon Catalyst.
LOCAL CHAT IS KEY -- keep it open. I went into one system, after checking the last 24 hours of podkills, and thought I might be OK. I found a -5.2 pirate by himself in the system. I left him by himself too and moved to a different system. Took me 5 seconds looking at local chat and doing get info on the system players.
Seriously -- thank you, Ard. I'm loving this, AND I'm getting my sec rating back up from a stupid drunken podkill (I swear, CONCORD officer, I thought my buddy was ready to die at the end of his trial).
Mos Superum
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Strife Phoenix
Acerbus Vindictum
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Posted - 2007.08.22 14:50:00 -
[77]
Nice post!
At least one "noob", if you excuse the word, got balls in this game. Good to see!
I might peak into your system tonight just to say hello :D
ACERBUS-VINDICTUM - Revelare Pecunia! |
Ard UnjiiGo
Dastardly Bastards
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Posted - 2007.08.22 16:57:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Ard UnjiiGo on 22/08/2007 16:57:22
Originally by: Strife Phoenix
Nice post!
At least one "noob", if you excuse the word, got balls in this game. Good to see!
I might peak into your system tonight just to say hello :D
"Noob" is what I still am . The great thing about getting down here as a "noob" has been that not only does my wallet only take a small hit when I explode but my ego does too. How seriously can I take getting blown to bits when I'm one of the "youngest" players living down here?
I'll try to be on Strife. We haven't mixed it up with too many anti-pies yet. For the best fights though (especially if you like the rush of testing a BC against a swarm of noob frigate pilots) try coming about the time of this post. We are international so we have a good overlap of time zones playing about this time. We'll try to give you a good fight and irregardless of the outcome, it sounds from your post that we'll all have some laughes afterwards.
Also, thankfully I'm not the only rookie down here. I've noticed quite a few rookie PvP corps like ours get going lately. Who knows, maybe this incoming group of rookies will give small gang fighting in EVE a little shot in the arm over the next year. That would be great.
Mos, again it's great to hear how much you are loving slumming in low-sec. I don't think you should feel bad about bringing the thread back up a little. From recent posts on Rookie Q&A it sounds like some folks still need to hear a lot of the good stuff that the vets added to this thread.
I'm not sure what your game goals are but if it was me I wouldn't sweat the sec status thing too much. Mine's down to -3 and, in all honesty, I can not plead to Concord that it was an accident . If more folks would just pay the ransom  than we wouldn't have all this practice at keeping clone bays busy . I have an alt now that was no hassle to set-up and keeps me in those cheap high-sec goods. Continued luck to you mate.
"the Yarr is strong with this one"
-Azirapheal |
Strife Phoenix
Acerbus Vindictum
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Posted - 2007.08.22 18:06:00 -
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Ah, but I'm no antipirate. Don't let the secstatus fool you, I just saw something shiny I just had to have and in order to get that I had to kill some guristas.. a lot of them :)
ACERBUS-VINDICTUM - Revelare Pecunia! |
Sebastian Lock
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Posted - 2007.12.18 21:05:00 -
[80]
Ok so I brought back a really old post......meh.....oh well I need to know. Ard, are you still out there in low sec? Also, there are a lot of comments here about going with friends or running with friends. Do you have any suggestions for a noob on how to locate said friends? I am a noob, lol, I have joined a couple of corps and they are good people but they don't care for PVP at all. How does a noob go about finding a group that wants to/is already running in low sec? That is the only thing keeping me out of low sec personally.
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Ard UnjiiGo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2007.12.18 21:46:00 -
[81]
Holy Cow!! I been necroed!!
Does this mean I'm not a rookie anymore? 
Yes I'm still in low-sec having a great time and continuing to learn a lot about the game and PvP. Actually, I can't leave now since my sec status is -9.
Not sure what to tell you since I'm a bit confused. You haven't been in any corp except for the NPC one and the other character that looks like it might be your alt (nearly identical name) hasn't either.
However, assuming you are what you say you are and need a little help I would suggest trying EVE University. Good place to learn PvP and to make friends. We've picked up a few of their grads and they have been excellent additions to the cause of "Noob Yarring". You might also try Agony Unleashed for PvP courses. Never tried one, but the folks I have met that have, speak very highly of them.
In closing, I have no regrets about heading out to low-sec 5 months ago and forming a pirate corp with a bunch of other nubs I met in the NPC corp and going outlaw. I've learned a lot, had a ton of good times and made some great friends along the way - some of them enemies when we first met. And a small spot in my heart glows warmly everytime some 'vet' pie or mission runner says 'nublet' to me in local (often after my merry band of nublets has popped his butt). The beauty of EVE.
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Pang Grohl
Gallente
Sudo Corp
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Posted - 2007.12.18 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastian Lock
Ok so I brought back a really old post......meh.....oh well I need to know. Ard, are you still out there in low sec? Also, there are a lot of comments here about going with friends or running with friends. Do you have any suggestions for a noob on how to locate said friends? I am a noob, lol, I have joined a couple of corps and they are good people but they don't care for PVP at all. How does a noob go about finding a group that wants to/is already running in low sec? That is the only thing keeping me out of low sec personally.
Low-sec PVP'ers are constantly looking for new joiners. Grab yourself a throw away frigate or two and roam the belts in your neighborhood low-sec systems. When a corporate fellow jumps in and engages you've just been offered an audition. If you perform well (not necessarily in the combat), you may get an invite to join up.
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Si non adjuvas, noces
(If you're not helping, you're hurting)
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Sebastiane Locke
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.18 22:15:00 -
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lol for some reason my bio won't update. I have only been in 2 private corps but I have been in other than NPC corps. And, you guessed it, this toon is mine too though this is my main I just messed up on the selection earlier. Thanks for the advice, though those sound like training corps. I am not looking to train to PVP. I was more looking for a little insight on finding a good PVP corp that runs together a lot. Corps in game seem very splintered to me. All my research and pre-joining question don't seem to manage to turn up a Corp that is tight knit and PVP oriented.
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Sebastiane Locke
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.18 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Pang Grohl
Originally by: Sebastian Lock
Ok so I brought back a really old post......meh.....oh well I need to know. Ard, are you still out there in low sec? Also, there are a lot of comments here about going with friends or running with friends. Do you have any suggestions for a noob on how to locate said friends? I am a noob, lol, I have joined a couple of corps and they are good people but they don't care for PVP at all. How does a noob go about finding a group that wants to/is already running in low sec? That is the only thing keeping me out of low sec personally.
Low-sec PVP'ers are constantly looking for new joiners. Grab yourself a throw away frigate or two and roam the belts in your neighborhood low-sec systems. When a corporate fellow jumps in and engages you've just been offered an audition. If you perform well (not necessarily in the combat), you may get an invite to join up.
Thanks for that insight I was actually planning on taking a look around today after reading this post. Now I know just being there is a good chance to find those I am looking for.
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Berilac
Amarr
Damned Legion
Mournival Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.19 00:38:00 -
[85]
Best newbie ever.
Other newbies: Learn
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xOm3gAx
Caldari
Stain of Mind
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Posted - 2007.12.19 02:25:00 -
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Solid post. This guy speaks the truth all newbies should listen to him and all highsec jita hugging carebears for that matter. Low sec is not all that bad and i've loved every bit i've spent there. Tbh most high sec is more dangerous then lowsec =P
Originally by: CCP Abraxas
Her boyfriend's way hot, too; tall and tanned. And I say this as a very hetero male who doesn't ever dream of the man on cold, dark nights.
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Ard UnjiiGo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2007.12.19 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Berilac
Best newbie ever.
Other newbies: Learn
Damn. You know that once my corp mates read this I'm never going to hear the end of it?
I can already hear it now: "Hey guys, we had this Caldari Navy Raven by the balls and guess what the 'Best Newbie Ever' had to go and do to screw it up?" 
Sincerely though: thank you. I'm undeserving but appreciative. Just hope the original post and the necroed one helps fill up low-sec more.
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Berilac
Amarr
Damned Legion
Mournival Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.19 04:55:00 -
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eh, I do what I can.
(Also didn't realize this was this old.)
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ZerKar
Caldari
Zen'Tar
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Posted - 2007.12.19 07:48:00 -
[89]
Nice very detailed thread. I would not blatantly attack you on the things that others seem to have. I would just give a warning that any New Player looking to go into Low Sec just be willing to accept their death and loss of their Ship and their Pod. It WILL happen, eventually. Maybe not the first time, or the second, or for a full year, but eventually that is going to happen. If they can accept that loss, then full steam ahead. If they feel too uneasy about that then they probably should stay in High Sec until they feel more comfortable with that loss.
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I saw the Sign...!
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.12.19 07:57:00 -
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The best thread of a newcomer into EVE regarding lowsec.
You, sir, are one lucky podpilot to have found a good corp you can have fun in, and in lowsec too. I wish you more great times and I do hope you suceed in EVE.
*bookmarks for later*
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