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Vaine Amarr Amarr Upright Citizens Brigade	Posted - 2007.08.03 18:52:00 - [31] Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 03/08/2007 13:19:20 Zealot still sucks tbfh. Its needs another turret and 25 cubes of drone bay, not 90 pg[well, it would once it got the extra gun]. **** the thing already had plenty of PG to start out with. Oh, and its CPU is unchanged... Sucks? You make me lol __________________________ It's great beeing Amarr, ain't it? O rly?
KD.Fluffy The Refugees	Posted - 2007.08.03 18:55:00 - [32] Quote: So the zealot is worse than the muninn at sniping and worse than the vagabond as a speed ship and up close, and worse than the deimos up close, and worse than the sacriledge as a tank/tackle... Its not better any any one thing. Nor is it able to perform multipule roles at the same time better than any of the others. And how is this supposed to be balanced? Pro-tip: its not. Its better then deimos at 20km.... thats the range you should be fighting at.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.03 19:01:00 - [33] Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 03/08/2007 17:58:41 Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Atius Tirawa I don't kow Goumindong, usually I agree with you, but the Zelot is a pretty quick ganker HAC, I have flow and seen them flown into some tight places and come out with kills. . .Perhaps the math is off, but a pulse Zelot is super fun, and a beam zelot ccan play BB support. A versitile and effective ship in its role I tell ya. Pretty much yes. It just gets utterly trounced in all ways by the Muninn and Vagabond when fit for similar charachteristics and doesnt hold another role where it can excell. Yo answered yourself... the zealot can try to fit same roles as munin and vagabond. Although not as well, but at least it is flexible enough. Munin makes a pathetic close combat ship and vaga as sniper is something should not even be spoken So the zealot is worse than the muninn at sniping and worse than the vagabond as a speed ship and up close, and worse than the deimos up close, and worse than the sacriledge as a tank/tackle... Its not better any any one thing. Nor is it able to perform multipule roles at the same time better than any of the others. And how is this supposed to be balanced? Pro-tip: its not. You are being stuborn or tring to look like a blind man. Beling ebrsatile has nothing to do with being teh best at any tole. Zealot is better than Munin up close and Better than Vagabond at sniping, and better than Deimos at medium and long ranges. THAT is being versatile, that is being balanced!!! balanced is almost never about being the best on something If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Kruel Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.03 20:13:00 - [34] IMO Zealot needs another turret. I can currently do the same kind of DPS in my Curse with nos/neuts AND damps. People don't want the Zealot to gank too hard... but you gotta realize there's no way you can fit any type of EW on a Zealot, so it should be a ganky mofo of a ship. Hell even a Deimos can have EW in the form of drones.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.03 20:23:00 - [35] Originally by: Kruel IMO Zealot needs another turret. I can currently do the same kind of DPS in my Curse with nos/neuts AND damps. People don't want the Zealot to gank too hard... but you gotta realize there's no way you can fit any type of EW on a Zealot, so it should be a ganky mofo of a ship. Hell even a Deimos can have EW in the form of drones. actually when the zealot was first released, the ship was considered the perfect gank platform. ...however the pulse laser nerf came, then the stacking nerf, then the EANMII thingy and HP boost, then a widespred usage of the nos... ...well, you get the point --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote: "Players are fine, boost guns"
Ogdru Jahad Amarr Hookers and Black Jack Flaming Hookers	Posted - 2007.08.04 02:19:00 - [36] actually with AWU 3 or four you can fit 4x Heavy Beam II and a nos.. now the nos is pretty much dead... what else would u fit that would not screw with your cap/ship? - :
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.08.04 02:46:00 - [37] Originally by: Kagura Nikon You are being stuborn or tring to look like a blind man. Beling ebrsatile has nothing to do with being teh best at any tole. Zealot is better than Munin up close and Better than Vagabond at sniping, and better than Deimos at medium and long ranges. THAT is being versatile, that is being balanced!!! balanced is almost never about being the best on something The Zealot is not better than a muninn up close, is better than a vagabond at sniping and isnt better than a deimos medium ranges. Its NOT being versitile. To be versitile you must be able to adapt to many different situations without changing fittings. Otherwise you just suck at a bunch of different things. A sniping Zealot is just as constrained as a muninn, a speed zealot more constrained than a Vagabond, and a short range more constrained than the Deimos. Take for instance the current Omen. It snipes better than the stabber, is a better speed ship than the maller, and its a lot better in the medium range than a moa. Oh wait, it still sucks.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.08.04 02:50:00 - [38] Originally by: Grimpak ...however the pulse laser nerf came, then the stacking nerf, then the EANMII thingy and HP boost, then a widespred usage of the nos... Pulse laser nerf Stacking nerf 2x HP boosts Compensation skills Those are the main things. This discounts the extra low, weakens the range advantage hugely, and terribly weakens em damage.
Siakel	Posted - 2007.08.04 03:57:00 - [39] Well, the Armageddon boost is certainly nice... but, PG for the Zealot? Why? I don't really have too many issues with PG on my Zealot.. CPU, on the other hand.. now that's something I could use.

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