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Zenst
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.04 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: testyonetwo It clear bob losing no?
They no post in this thread so they must be ready to lose now.
If they be winning they post much on forums to tell us how winning they are, but they no post so is proof they no win.
So when attack bob home nol, you all do soon ya? Sure to be big good fight you win because posting says you must win.
Nobody can win a race with no defined end - can they now.
I frankly do find it amazing how nieve some people can be and insist they know the facts based upon other peoples thoughts.
If you go thru it all you get is speculation about BOB from somebody who doesn't like them.
More please, makes good quotes after the war - at the end
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.04 06:40:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Erect
Originally by: Carsidava Why can't BoB come up with some clear proof that they're winning? Why isn't there a BoB equivalent of James 315?
Because James 315 is an alt.
what does being an alt have to do with this question?
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Franga
Caldari NQX Innovations Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.04 06:48:00 -
[153]
Originally by: James 315
This train haven't breaks.
I think you mean - 'brakes'.
I'm not sure too many people have bothered to read this one, sir. I can remember you saying that you didn't take the game too seriously in one of your last multi-posts ('multipass' - LeeLoo anyone?). I'm starting to think you may be fooling yourself.
Hmmm ... _____________________________ Eldo spanked my sig but I can't be bothered changing it just now. |
Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.04 06:53:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Franga
Originally by: James 315
This train haven't breaks.
I think you mean - 'brakes'.
I'm not sure too many people have bothered to read this one, sir. I can remember you saying that you didn't take the game too seriously in one of your last multi-posts ('multipass' - LeeLoo anyone?). I'm starting to think you may be fooling yourself.
Hmmm ...
hey you guys should hide more when we have less people than you do especially when 9/10ths are 1 day old newbies and the most dps we bring is a drake
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Lardarz B'stard
Amarr Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.08.04 06:59:00 -
[155]
I like these posts and have read them all without jumping to any conclusions or putting in my 2 cents.
However, one thing is very clear:
James 315 needs to get a more interesting job in RL.
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Franga
Caldari NQX Innovations Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.04 07:00:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Nlewis Quoted me and I'm not sure why ...
Your mother wears army boots? _____________________________ Eldo spanked my sig but I can't be bothered changing it just now. |
Murukan
Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.04 07:37:00 -
[157]
Was an entertaining read, quite biased but that's to be expected. It will be interesting to see how the next couple weeks play out. I would definately agree on the assesment of shinra as the vast majority of them lost their pvp skills the day wcs got nerfed. But losing space might turn out to be extremely healthy for BoB in the long run. about a year and a half ago RA used to hold quite a bit of space and was very large for their time. But power brings in the sycophants and they got very fat. After losing all but one system they rebounded as a lean mean pvp machine. There is no doubt that BoB has gotten a bit fat as of late, but to write off their pvp core which built that alliance would be a rather silly move.
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.08.04 08:08:00 -
[158]
Nice read, lots of words.
I wish I had the time to read them all, I am glad I dont have the time to write them all.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.04 08:58:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Carsidava If James 315 is so full of **** like BoB and pets are saying, then where are the rebuttals? Why can't BoB come up with some clear proof that they're winning? Why isn't there a BoB equivalent of James 315?
Clearly it's because Alice Chalamalamadingdong is on vacation. Coincidentally, Dianabolic is also 'getting worn out'. Are the two related? Hmmmmmm...
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Gergragda
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:01:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Franga
Originally by: Nlewis Quoted me and I'm not sure why ...
Your mother wears army boots?
She got your alliance mixed up with Southern Connection.
They were hiding in their station today on a goonfleet newbee training op when it was a favorable friendly:hostile ratio for SoCo.
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Apollyon X
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:07:00 -
[161]
Incredible read. So very well written and accurate, finally someone talkin some truth into these forums. If just one pet rebels against BoB then your mission is complete
10/10 for a great read. awsome.
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:07:00 -
[162]
A good read, as usual. Also, lol at the Corelum Syndicate people posting in this thread like the opinions of their tiny RP/drug production alliance matter in any way.
Originally by: Khavi Vetali
Oh don't worry, the goons are just as suicidal with their battleships as they are with their frigates.
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Voculus
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:14:00 -
[163]
The veracity of James' posts are evidenced by the legion of bobbit pet/lemmings/alts who predictably flock to these threads to try and bury the truth by smearing the OP. It's really not the end of the world. After all, it's only a game. But the good news, is that once the bobbits disband, the dozen devs who inhabit the alliance currently will hopefully spread out a bit more. _________________________________________________________
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Kaleeb
S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E. Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:19:00 -
[164]
I'm not sure if its been mentioned yet in your other threads but I have always been impressed by Bobs Pr machine, they did very well at boosting morale on the bob side while demoralizing their opponents.
I have not seen many of these propaganda posts for awhile, I wonder if this has anything to do with it?
Nice post once again although I do think you are a touch bias I do love reading your posts.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:24:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Berrik Radhok A good read, as usual. Also, lol at the Corelum Syndicate people posting in this thread like the opinions of their tiny RP/drug production alliance matter in any way.
Whereas, of course, your internet spaceship fellowship matters very much. It must be such a bind to have your gameplay interupted by visiting international dignitaries, or cutting a fleet op short in order to end poverty and infant death in developing countires.
Frankly, I know it sounds selfish, but I am glad I don't matter as much as you .. I'd hate a game to become serious business.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:31:00 -
[166]
Originally by: James 315 Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) ASCN (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...)
Why don't you talk about us and the difference between former ASCN and RSF ? Be constructive, just to know if you are well informed.
Let Bob do whatever they want. Their high-command is making mistakes, please do not gives them advices. -=-=-
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Helen
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:41:00 -
[167]
Who said RSF was poor?
STK providing Mothership deaths since 2007 |
Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:41:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Originally by: James 315 Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) ASCN (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...)
Why don't you talk about us and the difference between former ASCN and RSF ? Be constructive, just to know if you are well informed.
Let Bob do whatever they want. Their high-command is making mistakes, please do not gives them advices.
lol
PS : How can u compare 1 alliance with 3 alliances ?
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:43:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Originally by: James 315 Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) ASCN (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...)
Why don't you talk about us and the difference between former ASCN and RSF ? Be constructive, just to know if you are well informed.
Let Bob do whatever they want. Their high-command is making mistakes, please do not gives them advices.
lol
PS : How can u compare 1 alliance with 3 alliances ?
I don't know, how would you compare Bob to RSF ? -=-=-
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Kadarin
Momentum. The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:59:00 -
[170]
Very nice work, James 315! You're doing an excellent job of making the BoB forum propaganda team from the ASCN war look like the rank amateurs they were.
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NOObbody
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.04 10:10:00 -
[171]
This train haven't breaks. --- I was sworn to absolute secrecy! |
Lunas Feelgood
S.A.S Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.04 10:16:00 -
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Another great written post.
However it bugs me abit that you point the shinra pilots out.
Shinra had alot of great pilot, we got a few core shinra pilots in CI and they are very good indeed.
But you are right about one thing something has happend in BOB. When I see all the new guys in BOB im like who the feck are these guys. Hardly anyone I know. Problem with BOB atm they got like 4% of the good old chaps and 96% pilots that are basically just tools.
You can also call them drones becuase thats basically what they can do. Listen to orders and then try todo them. But you know all the problems with drones sometimes they do quite well but sometimes they end up shooting the wrong target and other times they are just quite anoying and wont fricking do what you command.
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz When the going gets tough...the tough join Bob.
Originally by: Shin Ra
Didn't u get the memo? Bending over is the new honorable thing to do!
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Jherek Cornelian
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2007.08.04 10:22:00 -
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Another excellant read James.
You obviously enjoy your writing and there are many of us who enjoy reading it. It makes a refreshing change to read something like this than the usual drivel on this forum.
How much of it is actaully true of course - I have no idea - but that doesn't detract from the enjoyment of reading it. As noone seems to be able to come up with any counter arguments other than
'u suck haha lolzers'
I can only assume it is fairly near the mark.
I await a 'counter truth' from my other favourite COAD posters - Seleene, Molle or Dianabolic - with glee.
Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |
Ruato
Gallente Gurgleblaster Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.04 10:44:00 -
[174]
Edited by: Ruato on 04/08/2007 10:49:59
Originally by: StarLite Oh noes, we're all gonna die! Armageddon is coming! Hide the children, drink the booze before it's too late! :P
Funny thing is that ive seen these type of posts from pretty much all alliances before they collapsed (for example, during ASCN war, they were losing battles, stations, etc and their pilots went to complete denial and said they never lose. And they suddenly went *poof*).
Denial is interesting concept.
EDIT: and no, im not saying bob is already dead, bury the carcass. I just find it funny that when someone is getting kicked in the nuts, still think they are winning. --- Get rid of those *bleep*ing secure containers. *bleep*! |
Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.04 10:48:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
You can also call them drones becuase thats basically what they can do. Listen to orders and then try todo them. But you know all the problems with drones sometimes they do quite well but sometimes they end up shooting the wrong target and other times they are just quite anoying and wont fricking do what you command.
Is this section a continuation of your comments on BoB, or are you refering to a different group here? It isn't completely clear.
To be absolutely fair, the OP's post is quite interesting, and I can see how he draws the conclusions he does from the evidence he has presented. However, the evidence he uses is neither fully accurate, nor full complete, and so his conclusions are equally inaccurate and incomplete. I'd love to point out the mistakes he is making, especially about the things he is either neglecting to mention, or is genuinely unaware of, but it is actually better for us that the community thinks he is right rather than pointing out were he is wrong.
It is easier to dismiss these posts with off the cuff remarks, and comical(ish) one-liners, simply because an equally in depth reply would either be responded to with the expected goon-esque treatment, or would be just dismissed as lies and propoganda because it is not what this threads target audience wants to hear.
There was a time where I, and many others, would have been happy to have a lengthy and in depth discussion about this and many other topics here on CAOD, but now it seems nothing more than an exercise in futility. Maybe if the nature of this section of the forums improves that will change, but I don't hold out too much hope.
Anyway, back to the OP. The crux questions are this: Did the supercapital changes hurt BoB in a way which seriously hampers their ability to fight a war? The OP would have you believe that all of BoBs accomplishments have been due to the use of supercapital ships. Is this true? (and if it is true, does that mean that CCP are now favoring the goons with game mechanic changes aimed at making the game easier for them, for surely that accusation would have been leveled at BoB if the roles were reversed?)
Have BoB suddenly lost the ability to fight effectively? There seems to be some idea that by recruiting new members that BoB is not the 'elite' pvp outfit it once was. Does increased numbers mean a fatal redection in ability? If so, surely RA are suffering far more than BoB after bringing goonswarm on board? Does that makes sense, does it seem likely?
BoB haven't destroyed any large POSs, (well, one), and thus they are losing the war. Whilst a superb tag line, what exactly does it mean? Does the average reader of CAOD think that this war will be decided by POS ping pong on the front lines, and that it should be the soul focus of both sides? Is it not possible that there are currently far more important objectives, and not always even at the front lines?
From where I am sitting, here is how I see the war: The allies are sitting in former coalition space, space which the coalition have still failed to retake - even after all the changes which they claim have sounded the death toll for BoB. Whilst both sides are running around in circles, screaming at each other, and generally having a lot of fun, nothing much is changing at the front. This is good, because it keeps people busy.
Now, I probably shouldn't have posted this summary, but I have in order to dip a toe in to the pool of forum sanity. I will use the reactions to this post to decide if I should bother trying to enter in to rational debate here yet .. (and yes, before anyone else gets the joke in, I am a master-debater).
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Popperr
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.04 10:51:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Originally by: James 315 Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) ASCN (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...) Bob (...)
Why don't you talk about us and the difference between former ASCN and RSF ? Be constructive, just to know if you are well informed.
Let Bob do whatever they want. Their high-command is making mistakes, please do not gives them advices.
lol
PS : How can u compare 1 alliance with 3 alliances ?
If only there was some kind of game where we could fight eachother for territory.
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Permayla Diota
Minmatar Tech 2 Holdings Limited
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Posted - 2007.08.04 10:55:00 -
[177]
I always wait excitedly for James's next post. Hes a truly rare talented spin doctor on Eve-0.
I mean who else can take the drivel, hearsay, and blatant fabrications and post them with an obviously educated slant and insert just enough unproveable assumptions that the average lemmings in the market place slurp it up and beg for more.
My only propoganda advice would be the following:
- when spinning dont write so cast in stone the "reasons or views" of the target. Makes you look less credible when they reveal there reasons for X or Y and they dont jibe with your "intel"
- Always promote your client more. Your lack of Goonswarm specific laudets and praises is letting the memory sneak back into the brains of the masses that Goons are still primarily meatshields and RA pets who claim any victory of there coalition as a "goon victory".(See "Goons" Kill titan posts)
- Mention POS Spammage more, your almost getting the majority to forget that both RA and Goons are the POS Spamming groups of eve but you need to throw that on BOB more (at least 12 times a message) if you hope to refute reality. (Remember XZH Anyone?)
Definately not a "tendrils of fear" caliber post but a promising newcomer to the scene.
When your contract with goonies is over give me a shout I have lots of products I need sales brouchures/campaigns done for.
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NeoTech
Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.04 11:01:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Avon
Is this section a continuation of your comments on BoB, or are you refering to a different group here? It isn't completely clear.
To be absolutely fair, the OP's post is quite interesting, and I can see how he draws the conclusions he does from the evidence he has presented. However, the evidence he uses is neither fully accurate, nor full complete, and so his conclusions are equally inaccurate and incomplete. I'd love to point out the mistakes he is making, especially about the things he is either neglecting to mention, or is genuinely unaware of, but it is actually better for us that the community thinks he is right rather than pointing out were he is wrong.
It is easier to dismiss these posts with off the cuff remarks, and comical(ish) one-liners, simply because an equally in depth reply would either be responded to with the expected goon-esque treatment, or would be just dismissed as lies and propoganda because it is not what this threads target audience wants to hear.
There was a time where I, and many others, would have been happy to have a lengthy and in depth discussion about this and many other topics here on CAOD, but now it seems nothing more than an exercise in futility. Maybe if the nature of this section of the forums improves that will change, but I don't hold out too much hope.
Anyway, back to the OP. The crux questions are this: Did the supercapital changes hurt BoB in a way which seriously hampers their ability to fight a war? The OP would have you believe that all of BoBs accomplishments have been due to the use of supercapital ships. Is this true? (and if it is true, does that mean that CCP are now favoring the goons with game mechanic changes aimed at making the game easier for them, for surely that accusation would have been leveled at BoB if the roles were reversed?)
Have BoB suddenly lost the ability to fight effectively? There seems to be some idea that by recruiting new members that BoB is not the 'elite' pvp outfit it once was. Does increased numbers mean a fatal redection in ability? If so, surely RA are suffering far more than BoB after bringing goonswarm on board? Does that makes sense, does it seem likely?
BoB haven't destroyed any large POSs, (well, one), and thus they are losing the war. Whilst a superb tag line, what exactly does it mean? Does the average reader of CAOD think that this war will be decided by POS ping pong on the front lines, and that it should be the soul focus of both sides? Is it not possible that there are currently far more important objectives, and not always even at the front lines?
From where I am sitting, here is how I see the war: The allies are sitting in former coalition space, space which the coalition have still failed to retake - even after all the changes which they claim have sounded the death toll for BoB. Whilst both sides are running around in circles, screaming at each other, and generally having a lot of fun, nothing much is changing at the front. This is good, because it keeps people busy.
Now, I probably shouldn't have posted this summary, but I have in order to dip a toe in to the pool of forum sanity. I will use the reactions to this post to decide if I should bother trying to enter in to rational debate here yet .. (and yes, before anyone else gets the joke in, I am a master-debater).
Its funny, cus none of that text actually explains how James is wrong, all your doing is asking more question abouts the "signs" of you losing.
And for the sov thing, yes, this is a war of sov, so if you cant take down poses, how are you supposed to win the war? And what you're pretty much saying is that "We didn't want those regions anyways", which is just one of the worst excuses i have ever seen to loosing space.
But w/e, maybe you'll win, maybe you wont, lets see what happens.
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The Eyeball
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Posted - 2007.08.04 11:01:00 -
[179]
Seems BoB are so under the cosh they seen fit to throw up another outpost
Didn't see that one coming did you Jamesy boy?
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Local Her0
Minmatar La Mancha Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.04 11:09:00 -
[180]
Did the supercapital changes hurt BoB in a way which seriously hampers their ability to fight a war? The OP would have you believe that all of BoBs accomplishments have been due to the use of supercapital ships. Is this true?
The answer to your question is certenly yes.
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