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Titus Wolf	Posted - 2007.08.07 14:18:00 - [31] I fly a thrasher a lot and love it. i call it the paper cannon and i see others have similar names for it. all gank and no tank is the only way to fly it in my opinion. but as a "cheap" damage dealer, fast locker, often ignored ship in a roaming gang or gate camp, it can't be beat. it is skill intensive so a lot of people may not be able to squeeze the good out of it, but for those that can its murder. i would also agree that solo, frigs and haulers is about all you'd want to take on. in a roaming gang with cruiser size ships and above, it fills the fast locker\warp scram function wonderfully, with the added bonus of dealing some nice damage. as far as which one to fly... arty minmatar with EMP ammo all the way.
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega	Posted - 2007.08.07 14:35:00 - [32] there are sig reducing modules/rigs right? wouldnt that be something to stick on a destro??? ----------------------------------------------- "Yes... I sleep with my myrmidon. It's nothing to be ashamed of!"
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.07 14:42:00 - [33] I flew a catalyst the other day, for a laugh, and I was suprised how much I enjoyed it... it tears up interceptors. If I'm in a sniper group at 180 from a gate, I feel a lot safer if there are a couple of Cormorants/Thrashers next to me... they serve their purpose well and no inty in their right mind would attempt to tackle you with one nearby... Plus they are dirt cheap. Sensor-boosted Thrashers are quite good for locking onto covops before they cloak and possibly insta-popping them ---------- signature removed - please do not discuss moderation in your signature graphic - Jacques([email protected])
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.08.07 15:23:00 - [34] Destryoers can be great as point defence for snipers. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally by: F'nog Reaper wins the thread.
Izral	Posted - 2007.08.07 15:45:00 - [35] Originally by: Cutie Chaser I remember my first destroyer. I was less then a week old, so I saved up for a destroyer + 7x prototype 150mm rails.... cost me 12mil in total for the fittings, all best named... After 3 missions I hocked all the fittings and ship, and re bought my merlin. I remember my first Destroyer. I was less than a week old, so I saved up for a destroyer + 3x normal 150mm rails + 4x 75mm rails. Cost me about 1M in total, no named.. After 3 missions I vowed never to fly a frigate ever again <3.
Gale Six	Posted - 2007.08.07 16:56:00 - [36] They're not much investment at all in the big picture. Destroyers have A LOT to teach a new pilot and allow for lots of practice & learning about things like fittings, energy/grid mgmt, ammo performance, tactics, tanking (or lack thereof), tackling, salvaging and more. They don't get much love from people, especially when you're beyond that class and you already know what they have to teach you. But Destroyers are one of the earliest and best learning craft for new pilots starting up the ship food chain. Stand up for Destroyers and stop the hate, people! Next time you see some l33tz0r in the Help or Rookie channel answer this same question with "lolz. destros r teh suck", kindly say to the rookie questioner something like "Don't listen to him, friend, Destroyers are cheap to train & buy and have a lot to teach you, so you're better prepared for the bigger ships beyond it. This is Eve, ships are cool, and there's no reason to skip something fun especially when it will help your skills. (The real kind in your brain, not the ones on the character sheet!)" Sidenote: I also hypothesise that some l33tz0rz are aware of the benefits that spending quality time with Destroyers can bring a new pilot, and they would rather you just rush to Cruisers/BCs and not have this knowledge so they can more easily omgUberPewPewGankz0r you. Second sidenote: as V.P. of PETOD [Pilots for the Ethical Treatment of Destroyers] I find the largely non-hostile and fond sentiments about Destroyers in this thread uplifting and refreshing.
Ess Erbe	Posted - 2007.08.07 17:29:00 - [37] While I may be a clueless noob, isn't the Coercer able to fit 4 damage mods or tracking enhancers plus a sensor booster, thus enabling it to be a very icky pewpew anti-interceptor platform? May not have the range of the Cormorant, but that sounds like it'd hurt, a lot. Also, destroyers are great fun to fly. I love my Cormorants and Thrashers.
Max Hardcase Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.08.07 17:32:00 - [38] Edited by: Max Hardcase on 07/08/2007 17:33:59 Originally by: Jimer Lins Originally by: Hannobaal Originally by: Jimer Lins Destroyers are slower than frigates with less armor/shield, More armor and shield actually. Their hit points are inbetween frigate and cruiser. My bad. I never actually compared straight numbers on them, but my experience has been that armor/shield on a destroyer evaporates with a quickness, much faster than a frigate, which is probably a function of speed and sig radius. Bingo that is the biggest issue that destroyers have. They're neither fish nor fowl, been hoping they change the dessies sig radius to highest racial frig sig radius +20%ish. That would sense instead of the 90m dessies we have now at the top end ( cormorant iirc).
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.07 17:51:00 - [39] If you can fly anything bigger but want to help your friends in combat, field a trasher and target enemy drones. They pop incredibly fast with a dest firing at them. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Aryth GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:36:00 - [40] Destroyers are very fun in fleet fights. First, you aren't ever a primary unless your whole fleet is pretty much dead. Because no one considers you a tackler, or DPS. Second, (I fly Gallente and Caldari ones) the Cormorant hits at 100km with Spike or I think 88 ish with faction and can track ANYTHING with faction ammo. You can be hitting 50%+ on a 12km a second crow at 40km from you. It will shread inties. So your job is to stay with snipers in fleet fights and shread any dictor/inties than come within 100km. Which is pretty much every fight, resulting in a lot of fun. Now the DPS is horrible, but really, you are shooting targets that are either going to run or die with less than 2000 effective HP to chew through. So even 80-100 dps adds up really fast.
DaveW Caldari South Park Development	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:55:00 - [41] I have one fitted out for Salvaging (including three salvage rigs) and I'm very happy with it. I sure as hell wouldn't use one in combat if my Implants were worth anything. --------------------------------------------------- "If you can't stand the heat..., stay out of the Kitchen."
Kellzz	Posted - 2007.08.07 22:09:00 - [42] Its good to see so many people with praise for the Destroyer. I understand that Destroyers cant tank at all and were not meant to do so. I have no plans to solo with it, it will be for gang use only. Most of the gangs i run in are small faster ships (nothing larger than a cruiser).
Hannobaal Gallente Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.07 23:05:00 - [43] Originally by: Elmicker Unfortunately for the people in the class - these "wolfpacks" have a tendency to linger too long, end up bubbled, and torn apart by smaller gangs flying better ships. More like end up killing battleships and commandships left and right, in my experience. ------------------
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.07 23:44:00 - [44] a properly fitted thrasher can tackle recons quite nicely, because they dont tank nor do they need any real cap to scramble, web, and jam Real men fly Pink. I've been living in your cassette, It's the modern equivalent, singing up to a Capulet, on a balcony in
Max Hardcase Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.08.08 10:43:00 - [45] Originally by: Kellzz Its good to see so many people with praise for the Destroyer. I understand that Destroyers cant tank at all and were not meant to do so. I have no plans to solo with it, it will be for gang use only. Most of the gangs i run in are small faster ships (nothing larger than a cruiser). Its not about tanking its about being sitting ducks for cruiser sized weapons.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.08 11:06:00 - [46] Destroyers have the best tank possible in fleet dfights... they are ignored :P I an really bet in a 70 vs 70 slugfest a destroyer have more chance of getting out than a sniper Battleship. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough

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