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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 15:43:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Commander Solo
Originally by: Stelteck If BOB win the current war, there will be no other power in 0,0 able to hold it.
BOB will then be able to double or tripple the taxe of all its pets and no one will be able to answer anything else than "Yes master".
Even for a bob's pet point of view it is in its interest that bob be defeated in the current war.
Stelteck
Which is obviously much worse than a community with a history of joining mmorpg's with the sole intent of ruining the game for all. 
/sarcasm
We only ruin the crappy ones.
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Elenor
Tri Optimum Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.08.07 15:44:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Stelteck If BOB win the current war, there will be no other power in 0,0 able to hold it.
BOB will then be able to double or tripple the taxe of all its pets and no one will be able to answer anything else than "Yes master".
Even for a bob's pet point of view it is in its interest that bob be defeated in the current war.
Stelteck
and when ra/gf/tcf wins then the universe will be a place full of flowers, quafe and hookers and ofc those three wont try to steamrole others?
no matter who losses the winner will be the might in eve to control all the other smaller alliances that wish to roll over before fighting.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 15:48:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Elenor
Originally by: Stelteck If BOB win the current war, there will be no other power in 0,0 able to hold it.
BOB will then be able to double or tripple the taxe of all its pets and no one will be able to answer anything else than "Yes master".
Even for a bob's pet point of view it is in its interest that bob be defeated in the current war.
Stelteck
and when ra/gf/tcf wins then the universe will be a place full of flowers, quafe and hookers and ofc those three wont try to steamrole others?
no matter who losses the winner will be the might in eve to control all the other smaller alliances that wish to roll over before fighting.
Because this has worked so well in the past for entities like Ascendant Frontier, Lotka Volterra, Dusk and Dawn and Band of Brothers.
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Commander Solo
Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.08.07 15:58:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: Commander Solo
Originally by: Stelteck If BOB win the current war, there will be no other power in 0,0 able to hold it.
BOB will then be able to double or tripple the taxe of all its pets and no one will be able to answer anything else than "Yes master".
Even for a bob's pet point of view it is in its interest that bob be defeated in the current war.
Stelteck
Which is obviously much worse than a community with a history of joining mmorpg's with the sole intent of ruining the game for all. 
/sarcasm
We only ruin the crappy ones.
So when you lot become bored, and decide this is a crappy mmorpg you will ruin it. How do i sign up for the coalition side again, because i really want to flush the 2.5 years of dedication i have put into this game down the toilet.
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:01:00 -
[65]
if the relationship is economic.
Pets pay, pets make isk.
If they are going to fight on any side, they will fight on the side whose perceived economic value is highest.
On this basis quite simply anything Goons et al appear to offer is just not good enough.
If however it is not an economic relationship, then it is something else.
If it is to fight next to friends, Goons et al are stuffed. Those pets are going to fight you regardless.
If it is coz they dislike the Goons threadnoughts, poor image etc etc, then you are equally stuffed coz your membership is filled with people that will never work it out.
If its because they like killing stuff, you have a chance to flip a pet, they might like killing BOBS just as much.
However Goons et al, have much larger numbers, so why swap sides and have less people (and more highly skilled people as a general rule) to shoot.
What it boils down to is the Pets dislike you and have a pretty good idea what life as a Goon pet will be and they will fight to ensure that does not happen.
Aferall it is the Goons et al that love to keep calling the GBC pets. Probably because they imagine it annoys the GBC, it does, annoys them enough to want to kill you over and over again.
Now you have a real answer and some obvious pointers as to how proceed what you going to do?
FREGE militairzing pets with attacks on stations is basically bringing the war to people not overly interested in the war.
The pets are not going to fold up or leave anytime soon, they will fight for what they consider theirs.
The guerilla tactics are just waking up a lot of people currently not really involved in the war, but when they do, it will be against Goons et al.
There is no renting space from Goons option for most of them, and they know it.
Most will not want it if offered, there is always somewhere else for them under less unpleasant circumstances.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:04:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Commander Solo
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: Commander Solo
Originally by: Stelteck If BOB win the current war, there will be no other power in 0,0 able to hold it.
BOB will then be able to double or tripple the taxe of all its pets and no one will be able to answer anything else than "Yes master".
Even for a bob's pet point of view it is in its interest that bob be defeated in the current war.
Stelteck
Which is obviously much worse than a community with a history of joining mmorpg's with the sole intent of ruining the game for all. 
/sarcasm
We only ruin the crappy ones.
So when you lot become bored, and decide this is a crappy mmorpg you will ruin it. How do i sign up for the coalition side again, because i really want to flush the 2.5 years of dedication i have put into this game down the toilet.
I didn't say when we get bored now did I. Bored != Crappy. Try to keep up. I'd love to know exactly how you think we plan on ruining Eve too. Better keep that to yourself though in case you give us ideas. 
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:05:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Orangir on 07/08/2007 16:05:24
Originally by: Commander Solo
Originally by: Stelteck If BOB win the current war, there will be no other power in 0,0 able to hold it.
BOB will then be able to double or tripple the taxe of all its pets and no one will be able to answer anything else than "Yes master".
Even for a bob's pet point of view it is in its interest that bob be defeated in the current war.
Stelteck
Which is obviously much worse than a community with a history of joining mmorpg's with the sole intent of ruining the game for all. 
/sarcasm
Oh, ok. What MMO have goons ruined?
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:07:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Omega Man if the relationship is economic.
Pets pay, pets make isk.
If they are going to fight on any side, they will fight on the side whose perceived economic value is highest.
On this basis quite simply anything Goons et al appear to offer is just not good enough.
If however it is not an economic relationship, then it is something else.
If it is to fight next to friends, Goons et al are stuffed. Those pets are going to fight you regardless.
If it is coz they dislike the Goons threadnoughts, poor image etc etc, then you are equally stuffed coz your membership is filled with people that will never work it out.
If its because they like killing stuff, you have a chance to flip a pet, they might like killing BOBS just as much.
However Goons et al, have much larger numbers, so why swap sides and have less people (and more highly skilled people as a general rule) to shoot.
What it boils down to is the Pets dislike you and have a pretty good idea what life as a Goon pet will be and they will fight to ensure that does not happen.
Aferall it is the Goons et al that love to keep calling the GBC pets. Probably because they imagine it annoys the GBC, it does, annoys them enough to want to kill you over and over again.
Now you have a real answer and some obvious pointers as to how proceed what you going to do?
FREGE militairzing pets with attacks on stations is basically bringing the war to people not overly interested in the war.
The pets are not going to fold up or leave anytime soon, they will fight for what they consider theirs.
The guerilla tactics are just waking up a lot of people currently not really involved in the war, but when they do, it will be against Goons et al.
There is no renting space from Goons option for most of them, and they know it.
Most will not want it if offered, there is always somewhere else for them under less unpleasant circumstances.
It's a pity because all of those assumptions are either stupid, ill-informed or basically totally wrong. Now I am filled with pity. 
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:08:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Orangir Edited by: Orangir on 07/08/2007 16:05:24
Originally by: Commander Solo
Originally by: Stelteck If BOB win the current war, there will be no other power in 0,0 able to hold it.
BOB will then be able to double or tripple the taxe of all its pets and no one will be able to answer anything else than "Yes master".
Even for a bob's pet point of view it is in its interest that bob be defeated in the current war.
Stelteck
Which is obviously much worse than a community with a history of joining mmorpg's with the sole intent of ruining the game for all. 
/sarcasm
Oh, ok. What MMO have goons ruined?
Eve tbqfh     
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Flow Befort
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:10:00 -
[70]
I see trees of green
red roses too
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:11:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Omega Man on 07/08/2007 16:11:45
Originally by: Nekumi
It's a pity because all of those assumptions are either stupid, ill-informed or basically totally wrong. Now I am filled with pity. 
If only you understood, your face is on the recruitment poster to get on the front lines to fight Goons.
There are plenty of people in Goons brighter than you, leave them to do the thinking.
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Sang Raal
Honorific Devil Snowstorm Company
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:12:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt I was looking for the word "Goon" in Russian dictionary and strangly enough expresion "домашнее животное" came up..... 
The G is silent. 
Too bad the rest of Goon isnt...
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:13:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Omega Man
Originally by: Nekumi
It's a pity because all of those assumptions are either stupid, ill-informed or basically totally wrong. Now I am filled with pity. 
If only you understood, your face is on the recruitment poster to get on the front lines to fight Goons.
Wow, that's kinda awesome. I've only recently returned to Goonswarm after a long absence and now I feel positively important and stuff. Is it the way I have my hair? People are always saying it's nicer up.
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Kieranda
Weyland-Yutani Future Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:13:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Nekumi I didn't say when we get bored now did I. Bored != Crappy. Try to keep up. I'd love to know exactly how you think we plan on ruining Eve too. Better keep that to yourself though in case you give us ideas. 
trying to discredit CCP with your "Open letter to CCP" and then swarming their forums over a holiday weekend with the result of them having to close it to clear all the goon spam posts is a good indication what it could look like
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:17:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: Omega Man
Originally by: Nekumi
It's a pity because all of those assumptions are either stupid, ill-informed or basically totally wrong. Now I am filled with pity. 
If only you understood, your face is on the recruitment poster to get on the front lines to fight Goons.
Wow, that's kinda awesome. I've only recently returned to Goonswarm after a long absence and now I feel positively important and stuff. Is it the way I have my hair? People are always saying it's nicer up.
Keep it coming, honestly, your posts are music to BOBS ears.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:17:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Kieranda
Originally by: Nekumi I didn't say when we get bored now did I. Bored != Crappy. Try to keep up. I'd love to know exactly how you think we plan on ruining Eve too. Better keep that to yourself though in case you give us ideas. 
trying to discredit CCP with your "Open letter to CCP" and then swarming their forums over a holiday weekend with the result of them having to close it to clear all the goon spam posts is a good indication what it could look like
It would be if those issues weren't already dealt with to the satisfaction of both CCP and Goonswarm I guess. I mean the sheer irrationality over the issues raised was so random and completely without purpose to such a degree that nobody else voiced any concern whatsoever and the moderation team didn't deal with any unruly members of Goonswarm at all...
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:18:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Omega Man
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: Omega Man
Originally by: Nekumi
It's a pity because all of those assumptions are either stupid, ill-informed or basically totally wrong. Now I am filled with pity. 
If only you understood, your face is on the recruitment poster to get on the front lines to fight Goons.
Wow, that's kinda awesome. I've only recently returned to Goonswarm after a long absence and now I feel positively important and stuff. Is it the way I have my hair? People are always saying it's nicer up.
Keep it coming, honestly, your posts are music to BOBS ears.
I do have a pretty good singing voice. 
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Commander Solo
Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:20:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Kieranda
Originally by: Nekumi I didn't say when we get bored now did I. Bored != Crappy. Try to keep up. I'd love to know exactly how you think we plan on ruining Eve too. Better keep that to yourself though in case you give us ideas. 
trying to discredit CCP with your "Open letter to CCP" and then swarming their forums over a holiday weekend with the result of them having to close it to clear all the goon spam posts is a good indication what it could look like
This for starters.
BoB have stated their aim is to control all of 0.0 space. While id agree that this isn't the optimum situation for any game, its a damn sight better than a goal of ruining it. Id appreciate it if you can look past personal insults to backup your argument, im not here for a flame war, just some food for thought for your allies.
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:21:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: Omega Man if the relationship is economic.
Pets pay, pets make isk.
If they are going to fight on any side, they will fight on the side whose perceived economic value is highest.
On this basis quite simply anything Goons et al appear to offer is just not good enough.
If however it is not an economic relationship, then it is something else.
If it is to fight next to friends, Goons et al are stuffed. Those pets are going to fight you regardless.
If it is coz they dislike the Goons threadnoughts, poor image etc etc, then you are equally stuffed coz your membership is filled with people that will never work it out.
If its because they like killing stuff, you have a chance to flip a pet, they might like killing BOBS just as much.
However Goons et al, have much larger numbers, so why swap sides and have less people (and more highly skilled people as a general rule) to shoot.
What it boils down to is the Pets dislike you and have a pretty good idea what life as a Goon pet will be and they will fight to ensure that does not happen.
Aferall it is the Goons et al that love to keep calling the GBC pets. Probably because they imagine it annoys the GBC, it does, annoys them enough to want to kill you over and over again.
Now you have a real answer and some obvious pointers as to how proceed what you going to do?
FREGE militairzing pets with attacks on stations is basically bringing the war to people not overly interested in the war.
The pets are not going to fold up or leave anytime soon, they will fight for what they consider theirs.
The guerilla tactics are just waking up a lot of people currently not really involved in the war, but when they do, it will be against Goons et al.
There is no renting space from Goons option for most of them, and they know it.
Most will not want it if offered, there is always somewhere else for them under less unpleasant circumstances.
It's a pity because all of those assumptions are either stupid, ill-informed or basically totally wrong. Now I am filled with pity. 
Care to elaborate, or just talking out of the wrong hole again?
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:22:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Commander Solo
Originally by: Kieranda
Originally by: Nekumi I didn't say when we get bored now did I. Bored != Crappy. Try to keep up. I'd love to know exactly how you think we plan on ruining Eve too. Better keep that to yourself though in case you give us ideas. 
trying to discredit CCP with your "Open letter to CCP" and then swarming their forums over a holiday weekend with the result of them having to close it to clear all the goon spam posts is a good indication what it could look like
This for starters.
BoB have stated their aim is to control all of 0.0 space. While id agree that this isn't the optimum situation for any game, its a damn sight better than a goal of ruining it. Id appreciate it if you can look past personal insults to backup your argument, im not here for a flame war, just some food for thought for your allies.
I haven't made any personal insults or flames up to this point but if I was making them I would totally make one about you right now. Read my last post if you want an answer to your epic quote of someone else's ramblings.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:25:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Omega Man
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: Omega Man if the relationship is economic.
Pets pay, pets make isk.
If they are going to fight on any side, they will fight on the side whose perceived economic value is highest.
On this basis quite simply anything Goons et al appear to offer is just not good enough.
If however it is not an economic relationship, then it is something else.
If it is to fight next to friends, Goons et al are stuffed. Those pets are going to fight you regardless.
If it is coz they dislike the Goons threadnoughts, poor image etc etc, then you are equally stuffed coz your membership is filled with people that will never work it out.
If its because they like killing stuff, you have a chance to flip a pet, they might like killing BOBS just as much.
However Goons et al, have much larger numbers, so why swap sides and have less people (and more highly skilled people as a general rule) to shoot.
What it boils down to is the Pets dislike you and have a pretty good idea what life as a Goon pet will be and they will fight to ensure that does not happen.
Aferall it is the Goons et al that love to keep calling the GBC pets. Probably because they imagine it annoys the GBC, it does, annoys them enough to want to kill you over and over again.
Now you have a real answer and some obvious pointers as to how proceed what you going to do?
FREGE militairzing pets with attacks on stations is basically bringing the war to people not overly interested in the war.
The pets are not going to fold up or leave anytime soon, they will fight for what they consider theirs.
The guerilla tactics are just waking up a lot of people currently not really involved in the war, but when they do, it will be against Goons et al.
There is no renting space from Goons option for most of them, and they know it.
Most will not want it if offered, there is always somewhere else for them under less unpleasant circumstances.
It's a pity because all of those assumptions are either stupid, ill-informed or basically totally wrong. Now I am filled with pity. 
Care to elaborate, or just talking out of the wrong hole again?
I'd probably have tried to answer you if you weren't so insulting on a personal level but I can't be a party to a continuation of rampant baseless accusations, mis-information spreading and plain old flaming.
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:27:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Commander Solo
Originally by: Kieranda
Originally by: Nekumi I didn't say when we get bored now did I. Bored != Crappy. Try to keep up. I'd love to know exactly how you think we plan on ruining Eve too. Better keep that to yourself though in case you give us ideas. 
trying to discredit CCP with your "Open letter to CCP" and then swarming their forums over a holiday weekend with the result of them having to close it to clear all the goon spam posts is a good indication what it could look like
This for starters.
BoB have stated their aim is to control all of 0.0 space. While id agree that this isn't the optimum situation for any game, its a damn sight better than a goal of ruining it. Id appreciate it if you can look past personal insults to backup your argument, im not here for a flame war, just some food for thought for your allies.
Oh, ok. What MMO have goons ruined?
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Gloomy Gus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:32:00 -
[83]
you know i expect it of the rest of them but the goons in this thread need to be much funnier this is painful
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:34:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Gloomy Gus you know i expect it of the rest of them but the goons in this thread need to be much funnier this is painful
This thread is about serious stuff. 
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Antion
Gallente Koshaku Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:34:00 -
[85]
For ISS, it's simple.
IAC/GOONS/AAA/TCF/KOS and so on removed us from our beloved outposts.
You don't really expect us to turn around and help said people do you? ------------------- Director, KAZO
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:39:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Commander Solo That persons post was rambling? I see no digression from the truth in that post. If goon were not happy with the outcome of the investigation, official channels should have been pursued instead of instigating a smear campaign.
This post and the others like it are simply a matter of perspective, perspectives that will never be compatible, so im done here for now :) I have a wall to go bang my head against for even thinking of posting on this area of the forum.
Hey brosef, this is the third time I've asked you to name an MMO that goons have ruined so if you could get back to me on that it would be great. After all, you did say that goons have a history of ruining MMOs so obviously you must know one we've ruined, right?
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iiOs
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:48:00 -
[87]
Edited by: iiOs on 07/08/2007 16:49:59
Originally by: Evil Thug Op obviously cant read \ hear what i said. Look for a new corp \ alliance. Your roles are removed.
Bye.
you mean now I wont be able to hear you yell, scream and insult everyone on TS like a freaking morron? yea, i dont know how im going to get over that, tbh , im surprised non told you to stfu yet, because thats what you realy need to hear, plus some good spanking from your mom, now behave. ps. pull thorax out of your ass and getover yourself
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:53:00 -
[88]
Originally by: iiOs Edited by: iiOs on 07/08/2007 16:49:59
Originally by: Evil Thug Op obviously cant read \ hear what i said. Look for a new corp \ alliance. Your roles are removed.
Bye.
you mean now I wont be able to hear you yell, scream and insult everyone on TS like a freaking morron? yea, i dont know how im going to get over that, tbh , im surprised non told you to stfu yet, because thats what you realy need to hear, plus some good spanking from your mom, now behave. ps. pull thorax out of your ass and getover yourself
Take some cheese with your whine 
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iiOs
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:55:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: iiOs Edited by: iiOs on 07/08/2007 16:49:59
Originally by: Evil Thug Op obviously cant read \ hear what i said. Look for a new corp \ alliance. Your roles are removed.
Bye.
you mean now I wont be able to hear you yell, scream and insult everyone on TS like a freaking morron? yea, i dont know how im going to get over that, tbh , im surprised non told you to stfu yet, because thats what you realy need to hear, plus some good spanking from your mom, now behave. ps. pull thorax out of your ass and getover yourself
Take some cheese with your whine 
wow, you know im right, yet you still try to play smartass?
bye o/
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.07 16:59:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Raeff meow

I love kitties. Unfortunately I'm allergic to cat dander. ;_; No pets for me. ---
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