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Draem Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:27:00 - [1] An EVE interceptor goes 9 AU/S in warp at max speed. 1 AU is 149,597,870,691 meters, plus or minus 30 meters. An EVE interceptor goes 1,346,380,836,219 M/S +/- 270 meters in warp. The speed of light is 299,792,458 M/S An EVE interceptor goes 4491 times the speed of light. Sol is the Earth's sun. Alpha Centauri is the closest star system to Sol. Alpha Centauri is 4.4 light years away. A light year is 9,460,730,472,580,800 meters. Alpha Centauri is 41,627,214,079,355,520 meters away. An EVE interceptor could go from Sol to Alpha Centauri in 8.59 hours. The light coming from Sol when you left would reach Alpha Centauri 38,561.81 hours after you did. Imagine how fast a jump gate goes. I wish I had an alt.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:29:00 - [2] I get the distinct impression that Warp Gates operate on a different mechanic than simple jumping. Now, what that mechanic is, I'm not sure. Perhaps there's a chronicle that explains this? ------------ Whiners - Unite! Tarminic - 25 Million SP in Forum Warfare.
SasRipper DIE WITH HONOUR	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:29:00 - [3] 1 word WHY! snip Sas has spoken this tread shall be locked.
Sean Dillon Caldari Naughty 40	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:29:00 - [4] Flying faster then light, people say, makes you go back in time. So flying a ceptor keeps you young and healthy?
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:33:00 - [5] Originally by: Sean Dillon Flying faster then light, people say, makes you go back in time. So flying a ceptor keeps you young and healthy? That is true (not that you stay young and healthy). But if you travel faster than light for 1 hour and then stop, you will be able to see your self take off. So in a sence, you have travled in time. Yes, even more fun but usless knowledge
Kunming The Coalition Of Buccaneers Mercenary Services	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:35:00 - [6] Originally by: Sean Dillon Flying faster then light, people say, makes you go back in time. So flying a ceptor keeps you young and healthy? LoL Quote: READ THIS NEXT PART CAREFULLY AS IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND POSTING A REPLY WITHOUT READING IT MAY RESULT IN YOU LOOKING STUPID.
Marine HK4861 Caldari Seoltachd	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:35:00 - [7] Originally by: Sean Dillon Flying faster then light, people say, makes you go back in time. So flying a ceptor keeps you young and healthy? Not quite. As I understand it, time passes slower for people travelling at the speed of light relative to people in a fixed location. Wikipedia article on time dilation.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:37:00 - [8] Originally by: Marine HK4861 Originally by: Sean Dillon Flying faster then light, people say, makes you go back in time. So flying a ceptor keeps you young and healthy? Not quite. As I understand it, time passes slower for people travelling at the speed of light relative to people in a fixed location. Wikipedia article on time dilation. Correct, so it won't keep you young as much as make everyone else older. ------------ Whiners - Unite! Tarminic - 25 Million SP in Forum Warfare.
Draem Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:38:00 - [9] Originally by: Marine HK4861 Originally by: Sean Dillon Flying faster then light, people say, makes you go back in time. So flying a ceptor keeps you young and healthy? Not quite. As I understand it, time passes slower for people travelling at the speed of light relative to people in a fixed location. Wikipedia article on time dilation. Is the "speed of time" relative to the speed you are traveling? I wish I had an alt.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:44:00 - [10] Also, did anyone calculate, if an interceptro runs head on into a cruise missile, how fast your life flashes before your eyes? Not counting lag So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Cardice Makar Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:45:00 - [11] Originally by: Sean Dillon Flying faster then light, people say, makes you go back in time. So flying a ceptor keeps you young and healthy? Haha, I like that. Sure. [A warp drive actually bends space slightly around your ship, allowing you to bypass the speed-of-light rules, or so it's easy to believe, I'm not sure there's any specific fic at the moment that states this, however] In reality, however, they say that it's impossible to go faster than light. At light speed, due to time dilation and relativity, time more or less stops [serious over-simplification, but whatever]. Some other mechanic must be enacted to "ignore" the speed-of-light rules. Jump gates, on the other hand, bend space-time with a wormhole. They say that only binary systems [systems with two suns] can support jump gates, and gates have to be placed on gravitationally stable areas around planets [known as LaGrange gravitational equilibrium points]. Thus only a limited number of systems can be used to support jumps. Regardless, you couldn't warp to another star anyway, because deep-space operates in almost exactly the same way as the "deadspace" pockets do in some mission environments. Your sensors are obfusticated by hydrogen clouds and extra-solar forces that mess with your ship in ways you can't even detect. If your navigation equipment let you travel between stars, chances are you'd run into something or get lost very easily. That's why MWD's and Warp Drives can't lock on to areas in other systems. [Yes, before you say, half the stuff in this is just made up by me, and I'm sure you can find a more convincing reason than I did as I just pulled it out of my head right now. However, if you use your own imagination, you can create an even better explanation!]
Celeritas 5k Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:46:00 - [12] Originally by: Draem Is the "speed of time" relative to the speed you are traveling? Sure is. If you were to fly at the speed of light from here to alpha centauri it would seem to you as if the trip happened instantaneously. ---------- "Always be Happy, Never be satisfied."
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.08.07 18:59:00 - [13] they aren't REALLY traveling faster then light in the normal sense. Rather the ship in warp is bending time & space around it, meaning no time dialation since technically the ship isn't moving to it's location in space, rather space/time is moving around the ship. Also the wormholes created by stargates are very different then the ancient acceleration gates/warp drives. Rather then "bending" space/time warp gates use the gravity vibrations of a binary star system to "break" it. Meaning stargates aren't limited by conventional distance-> time. ______________________ DubanFP> I stopped capitalizing the g in goonswarm a little while back. I find they no longer deserved the little bit of extra effort required to press the shift key.
Darius Shakor Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.08.07 19:01:00 - [14] Originally by: Draem An EVE interceptor goes 9 AU/S in warp at max speed. 1 AU is 149,597,870,691 meters, plus or minus 30 meters. An EVE interceptor goes 1,346,380,836,219 M/S +/- 270 meters in warp. The speed of light is 299,792,458 M/S An EVE interceptor goes 4491 times the speed of light. Sol is the Earth's sun. Alpha Centauri is the closest star system to Sol. Alpha Centauri is 4.4 light years away. A light year is 9,460,730,472,580,800 meters. Alpha Centauri is 41,627,214,079,355,520 meters away. An EVE interceptor could go from Sol to Alpha Centauri in 8.59 hours. The light coming from Sol when you left would reach Alpha Centauri 38,561.81 hours after you did. Hands Draem a large sack of isk Thanks, now go do my Geography homework. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal
Draem Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.08.07 19:02:00 - [15] Edited by: Draem on 07/08/2007 19:03:47 The onboard warp drive system removes neutrons from the surrounding space, creating a depleted vacuum. Source. I can't say I understand the mumbo jumbo, but wouldn't removing all neutrons also remove light from the surrounding area? Is this void of light the same as pitch black, or is it worse (Larry Niven theorized it is something that scars your brain, driving you insane with fear)? I wish I had an alt.
Lady Trade	Posted - 2007.08.07 19:06:00 - [16] Edited by: Lady Trade on 07/08/2007 19:07:27 Originally by: Celeritas 5k Originally by: Draem Is the "speed of time" relative to the speed you are traveling? Sure is. If you were to fly at the speed of light from here to alpha centauri it would seem to you as if the trip happened instantaneously. No it wouldn't. You as the pilot would still take 4 years at light speed to reach alpha centauri. The only difference would be, that the people around you would have lived for thousands of years during 4 of the pilots years. However for a person watching you warping to alpha centauri, and compring a watch on your ship to his own watch then the watch on your ship would move much slower (or stand still). If you looked out at the watch of the observer then his watch would move really fast. So for an observer you would appear to stand still at light speed and for the traveler the universe would progress at a increased rate so you travel to alpha centauri and back (take 8 years) but on earth 50'000 years have passed.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.08.07 19:11:00 - [17] The Solution to the problem of time Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Celeritas 5k Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.08.07 19:17:00 - [18] Originally by: Lady Trade Edited by: Lady Trade on 07/08/2007 19:07:27 Originally by: Celeritas 5k Originally by: Draem Is the "speed of time" relative to the speed you are traveling? Sure is. If you were to fly at the speed of light from here to alpha centauri it would seem to you as if the trip happened instantaneously. No it wouldn't. You as the pilot would still take 4 years at light speed to reach alpha centauri. The only difference would be, that the people around you would have lived for thousands of years during 4 of the pilots years. However for a person watching you warping to alpha centauri, and compring a watch on your ship to his own watch then the watch on your ship would move much slower (or stand still). If you looked out at the watch of the observer then his watch would move really fast. So for an observer you would appear to stand still at light speed and for the traveler the universe would progress at a increased rate so you travel to alpha centauri and back (take 8 years) but on earth 50'000 years have passed. I'm pretty sure that traveling just below the speed of light, to an outside observer it would take you 4 years to travel 4 light years. However, your clock would move much slower than theirs, so to you the trip would happen almost instantaneously. I think we're both saying the same thing, just reversed as to whose time slows down... Relativity is confusing! ---------- "Always be Happy, Never be satisfied."
Lady Trade	Posted - 2007.08.07 19:26:00 - [19] Edited by: Lady Trade on 07/08/2007 19:29:30 Edited by: Lady Trade on 07/08/2007 19:27:21 Originally by: Celeritas 5k Originally by: Lady Trade Edited by: Lady Trade on 07/08/2007 19:07:27 Originally by: Celeritas 5k Originally by: Draem Is the "speed of time" relative to the speed you are traveling? Sure is. If you were to fly at the speed of light from here to alpha centauri it would seem to you as if the trip happened instantaneously. No it wouldn't. You as the pilot would still take 4 years at light speed to reach alpha centauri. The only difference would be, that the people around you would have lived for thousands of years during 4 of the pilots years. However for a person watching you warping to alpha centauri, and compring a watch on your ship to his own watch then the watch on your ship would move much slower (or stand still). If you looked out at the watch of the observer then his watch would move really fast. So for an observer you would appear to stand still at light speed and for the traveler the universe would progress at a increased rate so you travel to alpha centauri and back (take 8 years) but on earth 50'000 years have passed. I'm pretty sure that traveling just below the speed of light, to an outside observer it would take you 4 years to travel 4 light years. However, your clock would move much slower than theirs, so to you the trip would happen almost instantaneously. I think we're both saying the same thing, just reversed as to whose time slows down... Relativity is confusing! Very yes. But what people forget is that "relative" means in comparison to one another. So if you sit in a space ship and fly to alpha centauri, then this will not influence the way you feel time passing. For you 4 years mean 4 years - it's only to an observer (or if you look out the window (disregarding the doppler-effect)) that time dialation will become apparent. So you will still have to sit in your space ship for 4 years - no less. If you look out though, then you can watch your wife grow old before your very eyes (while for her you seem to be stationary). But if you make the wife wait 4 years and you wait 4 years in your space ship then it will still feel like 4 years to both of you. (only when you get out of the space ship and compare age with your wife then you will notice that time has passed in a different rate for you then for her) so for the traveler "the passage of time" is influence by psycholgy and not physics so you will still feel the full 4 years journey.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.08.07 19:30:00 - [20] Remember, there's also length contraction. So lets say you're going 99% the speed of light to Alpha Centauri, 4 light years away. This gives a time dilation/length contraction factor of 0.1411. To you, it appears to be 0.56426944 light years away, and you appear to be going at 0.99c. So, doing the math, that means you take 208.17 days to get there, from your perspective. From someone who isn't moving watching you, you take about 1475.73 days to get there; just over 4 years. Now what's our time dilation factor? Well, it should be 208.17/1475.73. And it is: 0.1411! It matches up. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Arvald Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.08.07 19:39:00 - [21] Originally by: Lady Trade Edited by: Lady Trade on 07/08/2007 19:07:27 Originally by: Celeritas 5k Originally by: Draem Is the "speed of time" relative to the speed you are traveling? Sure is. If you were to fly at the speed of light from here to alpha centauri it would seem to you as if the trip happened instantaneously. No it wouldn't. You as the pilot would still take 4 years at light speed to reach alpha centauri. The only difference would be, that the people around you would have lived for thousands of years during 4 of the pilots years. However for a person watching you warping to alpha centauri, and compring a watch on your ship to his own watch then the watch on your ship would move much slower (or stand still). If you looked out at the watch of the observer then his watch would move really fast. So for an observer you would appear to stand still at light speed and for the traveler the universe would progress at a increased rate so you travel to alpha centauri and back (take 8 years) but on earth 50'000 years have passed. a......wa......my head hurts forum warrior in training Your signature is beyond the file size allowed on these forums. Email [email protected] if you have further questions. -Wachtmeister
Lady Trade	Posted - 2007.08.07 19:40:00 - [22] Edited by: Lady Trade on 07/08/2007 19:43:06 Originally by: "wikipedia" Time dilation would make it possible for passengers in a fast moving vehicle to travel further into the future while aging very little, in that their great speed ******s the rate of passage of onboard time. That is, the ship's clock (and according to relativity, any human travelling with it) shows less elapsed time than stationary clocks. For sufficiently high speeds the effect is dramatic. For example, one year of travel might correspond to ten years at home. Indeed, a constant 1 g acceleration would permit humans to travel as far as light has been able to since the big bang (some 13.7 billion light years) in one human lifetime. So for an observer if will not take you 4 years but actually take you very much longer. Or is it due to spacial contraction that you would actually _not_ take 4 years for a 4 year trip and thats why for an observer it would only take you 4 years..? i0m starting to get confused... i think i'll go read up on that right now.
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.08.07 19:48:00 - [23] Originally by: Marine HK4861 Originally by: Sean Dillon Flying faster then light, people say, makes you go back in time. So flying a ceptor keeps you young and healthy? Not quite. As I understand it, time passes slower for people travelling at the speed of light relative to people in a fixed location. Wikipedia article on time dilation. That is only for speeds approching the speed of ligth (say 99% for example). The ligth speed is a maximum value for speed, there is nothing that goes faster that is well known. It's a limit that can't be reached by machines like the absolute zero or the absolute silence. According to the equation, at c the time stops. -=-=-
RtoZ	Posted - 2007.08.07 19:51:00 - [24] Let me explain eve technology in laymans terms: The [bs] makes the [bs] so that [bs] is [bs]. The result of this technology is about 15$ a month, which as we all know is 20Ç.
Draem Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.08.07 22:54:00 - [25] This topic tickles my brain. On a slightly different note than FTL, let us look at the reverse stasis concept. Inside the reverse stasis field, time is accelerated. Let us suppose you stick a limb inside while standing outside. Time passes faster inside, and your arm slowly begins to get gangrene and rot due to lack of blood. Let us suppose you take the generator and jump off a building while holding it, so the field falls with you at its center. Since air has trouble moving inwards due to the speed of vibrating particles being different, you will fall slowly to those looking inwards. Let us suppose you elevate the generator, then allow yourself to touch the bottom of the field. You would slowly sink outwards, and might possibly rip your limbs in half by struggling since the tension will build on the outer edge. Is my logic flawed? I wish I had an alt.
Callthetruth Caldari Drunken Ratbags Inc New Eve Order	Posted - 2007.08.07 23:00:00 - [26] not entirely true a jump drive if its simply cutting space in half everyone at destination and start point would be the same age if u can jump so fast in a split second thats a instatnoues jump drive. YOure talking billions the times of light. If however youre accelerating to in one direction without cutting space in half yes rules of ageing apply
Lydia Browm Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.07 23:19:00 - [27] my head hurts ___________________________________________ Cookies if you hijack or sign my sig. There tasty...
Pociomundo Gallente World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.08.07 23:27:00 - [28] For some reason I must now watch the 3hr intro to Battlestar Galactica again, though it is thoroughily awesome every time :)
Zak Kingsman A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.08.07 23:29:00 - [29] Edited by: Zak Kingsman on 07/08/2007 23:29:48 time travel, pshaw There IS no time.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.07 23:33:00 - [30] pssh, slow arse intys ftl, mine does 13.5 au/s Real men fly Pink. I've been living in your cassette, It's the modern equivalent, singing up to a Capulet, on a balcony in

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