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Wrayeth Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.08.08 05:26:00 - [31] Originally by: Layrex It's hard to play it as a sci-fi RP game when everyone treats it like some sort of FPS.... Actually, these days people play it more like the world's largest and slowest RTS. TBH, it was more fun when people played it like a FPS. :( -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Cipher7 OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.08 06:45:00 - [32] Saying "sup dude" in local is perfectly in-character. This is the future not the past, slang might be different in the future but we don't know what slang they would use, or what language even. And how do you know pod pilots don't take classes inside the station? "I was in school today and..." Why would that be out-of-character? "And my girlfriend said..." Do people in the future not have girlfriends? "And on TV I saw..." TV could just be future slang for holovid. I find Eve extremely immersive without anybody even trying. People don't even have to TRY to roleplay, a pirate acts like a pirate, a businessman acts like a businessman, everybody is in-character whether they're trying to be in-character or not. The only thing that annoys me is when carebears post bios claiming to be "warriors" meanwhile they're in highsec in a NPC corp.
Haffrage Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.08 07:01:00 - [33] Originally by: Cipher7 Saying "sup dude" in local is perfectly in-character. This is the future not the past, slang might be different in the future but we don't know what slang they would use, or what language even. And how do you know pod pilots don't take classes inside the station? "I was in school today and..." Why would that be out-of-character? "And my girlfriend said..." Do people in the future not have girlfriends? "And on TV I saw..." TV could just be future slang for holovid. I find Eve extremely immersive without anybody even trying. People don't even have to TRY to roleplay, a pirate acts like a pirate, a businessman acts like a businessman, everybody is in-character whether they're trying to be in-character or not. The only thing that annoys me is when carebears post bios claiming to be "warriors" meanwhile they're in highsec in a NPC corp. That's something I always found interesting. In roleplaying terms there's a multilingual translator built into our pods. Anything written or spoken is translated as accurately as possible to reword an entire phrase, so it will properly convey the exact mood, tone, and formality of what was said. So really, everything you see in local right now IS roleplayed by everyone else, they're just roleplaying what the translator would automatically print out for you ----- Tech 2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers Eve GUI Tweaks
Liliane Woodhead Intergalactic Charwomen	Posted - 2007.08.08 07:05:00 - [34] I live here. Jita is my home :/
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.08 09:04:00 - [35] Everything in Eve is RP. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Russell Simmons	Posted - 2007.08.08 09:09:00 - [36] Eve just doesn't feel sci-fi enough for me to play it like a sci-fi game.
Krulla Minmatar True Centii	Posted - 2007.08.08 09:19:00 - [37] Edited by: Krulla on 08/08/2007 09:21:20 It's very hard NOT to roleplay in EVE, to a certain extent. Pod pilots, meaning every single EVE player, are immortals with enough funds to buy warships crewed by thousands, firing thermonuclear weapons and worse, and most are rich enough not to care when these thousands of people get killed because they were bored. They are completely detached from reality and the rest of the world, in the sense that they are so superior that normal people just don't matter to them. Most of them rarely even leave they're pods. Life is, to them, a giant videogame. A pod pilot might well start attacking and destroying spaceships (gankers) for no reason whatsoever other than pure boredom. Why? It's just fun and games to them. Sure, thousands of people might die, a ship worth millions might be destroyed, but to them, all that doesn't matter. They just hop back to they're local tradehub and get a new ship, and another crew of thousands. Really, no matter what you choose to do or how you do it or what you say in EVE, you're roleplaying.
The Snowman Gallente Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.08.08 09:23:00 - [38] Why do you think it would be ANY different if it were real life?... Cmon, its HUMANS which bring this society with them.. if, as humans, we were all flying around in spaceships shooting each other we would all give ourself's weird nicknames and alias's anyway!... as for smack talk.. people smack talk each other down the pub! why would would people NOT smack talk when trying to kill each other? (as im sure they do in real life wars) Your post to me makes no sense. There are good people and childish people.. everywhere that humans go we will always be the same, we wont ever change. Im actually suprised at how MOST people ARE nice on eve!...
Steini OFSI Gallente Minigame	Posted - 2007.08.08 09:29:00 - [39] I would assume that most, for example pirates are roleplayers. They choose the role of a pirate, you don't see them waltzing down the street in their every life buisness in a pirate suit screaming yarr and shooting you?
Vendrin Caldari APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.08 09:58:00 - [40] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=472051 If you want to get in the rp, there's a good place to start. _____________________________________ APEX Conglomerate is recruiting. Join channel APEXCOM for information!

DarthMopp Gallente I.O.S. - I.D.I.O.T.s in outer Space	Posted - 2007.08.08 10:54:00 - [41] Ok, i don¦t think that everything you do in this game is roleplaying. Most guys and girls i fly with i know in real life ( Community-Lan, Paintball Gathering and so on ) and i prefer to talk to them as my "RL-Me". Jesus...even my wife flys as my wingman when going to kick NPCs. Can you imagine how they all would stare at me if i were talking like this: "Today was pretty close. I got the order from above to fly to a checkpoint and check whats up there. Suddenly from everywhere Angels warped in an kept me under constant fire.......and so on" instead of "Had Angel Extravangza earlier that day..almost lost my ship..damn...". Those who want to play this game like a second life may do it this way. Its not my kind of playing something. When i am coming home from work i need some lazy hours with my friends in front of the Computer, chatting about some nonsense while kicking asses or even mining and not to dive into another self created world. I wont judge anybody who likes being a "real" roleplayer....i dont have the energy to create another world "Alea iacta est"
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.08 11:00:00 - [42] I talk like Darth Vader on TS, does that count?
Joerd Toastius Octavian Vanguard	Posted - 2007.08.08 11:17:00 - [43] Originally by: Fred0 I talk like Darth Vader on TS, does that count? It's true :P Originally by: DarthMopp "Today was pretty close. I got the order from above to fly to a checkpoint and check whats up there. Suddenly from everywhere Angels warped in an kept me under constant fire.......and so on" Thing is, people only talk like this when they're narrating bad detective stories. A real pilot would say "[fornicating] Angel [illegitimate offspring]..." and move on - you're a professional Angel-hunter, you kill hundreds of them every day, having a few close shaves should barely register a comment. As a capsuleer you just have to take the universe as it comes, stay one step ahead of the curve and at least pretend that you're ridiculously gifted by normal standards in at least some areas, even if that doesn't translate into manners or bearing (evidence suggests that there are no psychological tests for capsuleers). The only thing that's out of character in Eve really is crass stupidity and blatant 21st century references. Not only (as the other guy pointed out) are capsuleers almost entirely divorced from day-to-day life in the rest of the cluster, they're also the absolute cream of the crop in most cases. If you imagine that the average attribute makeup of the average Eve citizen is 1/1/1/1/1, that's probably a good baseline of comparison for your own stats. There's trillions upon trillions of people in the Eve cluster, and probably around 400,000 registered capsuleers (counting same-account alts) at any one time. You do the math :) Also, most of the best RPers in Eve are leaders of major alliances, although they won't acknowledge the fact ;)
Verone Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.08.08 11:42:00 - [44] Originally by: Rodj Blake Everything in Eve is RP. ^^ what that man said. People can argue against it all they want, but on some level or other everything you do in Eve is RP. As for playing Eve as a Sci-Fi game... I've been doing it since i started playing. >>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
Sheriff Jones Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.08.08 11:48:00 - [45] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 08/08/2007 11:50:08 Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 08/08/2007 11:48:55 I don't know what this "in character" is, but i bet it's one of those trendy words the nerds back at the academy used when they had their HARP sessions. That, hologram...action..role...whatnot. Anyhoo. I've often heard that people wonder about the boards, these intergalactic discussion forums that is, and the smilies that have been around for eons now. Some say they ain't "in character" either. Weird people. Also there's the communication system, that is text based due to some security reasons, which allows corporations and other tabs to be used in communication. This too is often said to have "non character" things, like smilies, in it. But again, it's just a system that's been in use for thousands of years. If i remember correctly, it started with this "inter-net/web" thing. Didn't pay much attention on the history lessons. Then there's the names. These are also often said to be "non character", but you should've been in the academy when there was this one guy with a callsign "L33tD00d". He wasn't a bad pilot, but hearing that on the voice-com a milllion times did tick me the wrong way sometimes. Callsigns should be assigned by the instructor, not by the pilot. Then there's the whole issue of calling intergalactic changes to equipment as "nerfs". People forget that there's the "intergalactic goverment" that observes and decides on many of the aspects in everyday life. Like the "nano nerf", which was simply a security measure 'cause many of the "nano ships" exceeded the galactic safety codes. They are keeping us safe and the ships more reliable with these changes. I guess, there's some people who like to call anyone not being all "hail to thee"as non roleplay people, but i find it to be a big tub of bogwash Though i am a bit concerned on how many people think of our lives as a "game". Also, i had to adapt a bit to the "lingo" going about. So i tend to call pilots "players" and some such things, just the way the new world revolves i guess. So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Zoea Minmatar Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.08.08 12:18:00 - [46] Originally by: Tortun Nahme EVE IS NOT FICTION im not crazy he's right the funny thing is that it appears to be lol. Oh well I can never get enough, you know? :) HAHAHAHA..
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2007.08.08 12:41:00 - [47] Originally by: Chimu Quien It seems that everywhere I go, 75% of the pilots have d00d names and bios that verge on being obscene. In local the chat is smack talk or l33t speak. In Eve we have a chance to create a space away from RL and live out a kind of sci-fi fantasy. Why do so few people take advantage of that? The names certainly get to me as well. The problem was that CCP never included a name filter. Even if they introduced one tomorrow it would be impossible to clean up all the names now. They do indeed detract from the game I think. And it isn't just the leet names that do. Names like Cyno One or Hauler One etc or the ones that are nonsensical strings of letters also detract from the game environment. I doubt CCP gave much thought to how folks would name their characters. They probably relied on the good faith of the customers and that faith was misplaced in this area for many individuals. Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
Rabbit Boiler	Posted - 2007.08.08 12:49:00 - [48] Originally by: Russell Simmons Eve just doesn't feel sci-fi enough for me to play it like a sci-fi game. Yeh I know what you mean.. the space ships and the flying in space thing.. and the futuristic development of human beings.. its just not.. oh wait..
Threv Echandari Caldari Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.08 13:08:00 - [49] Edited by: Threv Echandari on 08/08/2007 13:08:58 Put me in the Everything you do in the game is RP Camp. When I'm on TS with my corpies, hours could go by with not a single Out of game Comment beyond "Bio Break" or "Wife aggro" getting used. I have nodded off in station to sounds of my d00ds "droning" on about resistances, and speed mods, POS management and the latest gate camp, which alliance is f..ing which etc. I note that the whole RP aspect comes out without even trying... sure some of game stuff gets talked about but in the whole of things I'm pretty immeresed in the game. Since I live out in 0.0 most of my concerns are with Alliance War things so I don't interact too much with the "Empire" folk. But once in awhile I tune in to the Amarr Channel which has a lot of "RP'rs" in it. Its almost like watching TV/News when your vacationing in foreign country.. Kinda cool actually.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2007.08.08 13:08:00 - [50] Edited by: Wendat Huron on 08/08/2007 13:09:22 Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Roleplaying makes no sense, it's a video game. In games, the only point is to kill- not to pretend to be a chick/hit on dudes pretending to be chicks. If you want to pretend to be someone else you should go use your acting talents IRL. Ok I'll take this flamebait and raise it a level. Gaming makes no sense. In life the only point is to kill, not to pretend to be someones friend, ally, contractor or for that matter waste time playing games, just kill. If you want to socialize then there's supposedly a pretend realm beyond this one.

An Anarchyyt Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.08.08 13:10:00 - [51] So....I'm not playing Dr. Mario? Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Billy Sastard Amarr Life. Universe. Everything. Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.08 14:28:00 - [52] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Rodj Blake Everything in Eve is RP. ^^ what that man said. People can argue against it all they want, but on some level or other everything you do in Eve is RP. As for playing Eve as a Sci-Fi game... I've been doing it since i started playing. I tend to agree with these posts. What really is stopping someone thousands of years in the future from calling themselves "XxXUb4r k1LL4r666XxX"? This is in the future after all, which means everything we have done today is going to be repeated at some time right? -=^=-
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.08.08 14:37:00 - [53] Unlike in most MMOs you don't have to roleplay to be in-character. EVE is built as a harsh cold world set in the future, why not talk as you wish? In EVE it's not uncommon to talk about numbers like tracking, resists, falloff, ect. And even THAT is in-character. EVE is a numbers game, and because of that you don't have to roleplay to be in-character. So why roleplay? ______________________ DubanFP> I stopped capitalizing the g in goonswarm a little while back. I find they no longer deserved the little bit of extra effort required to press the shift key.
Trak'anon	Posted - 2007.08.08 15:07:00 - [54] Eve is serious science fiction buisness
Regat Kozovv Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.08.08 15:13:00 - [55] Originally by: Krulla Edited by: Krulla on 08/08/2007 09:21:20 It's very hard NOT to roleplay in EVE, to a certain extent. I'm inclined to agree. While some people have noted that the 21st century references and such sometimes distract from it, by and large everything that takes place is well, quite believable. As was noted, we, the pilots, are the galaxy's prima donnas. We don't anwser to authority or rank unless it's one we freely accept as part of our corporation. As such, we don't need to act or behave in a certain fashion as if we were to resemble actors in a Sci-Fi drama. We are free to act as we wish, and the attitudes we convey can either impress or discourage others, just as the people we meet on the street can give us a feeling of admiration or disdain. Certainly, some of us may turn our noses at some pilot flying by in his Thorax named "Teh Stone Boner", but those types exist in our current society as well. If anything, the presence thereof of those types makes it more believable for me, given that while EVE's society exists far in the future, in some ways, it is not too far from our own.
Billy Sastard Amarr Life. Universe. Everything. Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.08 16:18:00 - [56] Originally by: Regat Kozovv Originally by: Krulla Edited by: Krulla on 08/08/2007 09:21:20 It's very hard NOT to roleplay in EVE, to a certain extent. I'm inclined to agree. While some people have noted that the 21st century references and such sometimes distract from it, by and large everything that takes place is well, quite believable. As was noted, we, the pilots, are the galaxy's prima donnas. We don't anwser to authority or rank unless it's one we freely accept as part of our corporation. As such, we don't need to act or behave in a certain fashion as if we were to resemble actors in a Sci-Fi drama. We are free to act as we wish, and the attitudes we convey can either impress or discourage others, just as the people we meet on the street can give us a feeling of admiration or disdain. Certainly, some of us may turn our noses at some pilot flying by in his Thorax named "Teh Stone Boner", but those types exist in our current society as well. If anything, the presence thereof of those types makes it more believable for me, given that while EVE's society exists far in the future, in some ways, it is not too far from our own. Wow you just did a 200% better job of explaning what I was trying to get across... Bravo :D -=^=-
ChimeraRouge Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2007.08.08 22:18:00 - [57] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Roleplaying makes no sense, it's a video game. In games, the only point is to kill- not to pretend to be a chick/hit on dudes pretending to be chicks. If you want to pretend to be someone else you should go use your acting talents IRL. I agree.. You guys who roleplay should get laid or go outside once in a while.
BritishInvader Amarr Leela's Lamas	Posted - 2007.08.08 22:28:00 - [58] People playing an MMORPG as a game and not living through it? MADNESS -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
Dez Affinity Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.08.08 22:29:00 - [59] Originally by: Layrex It's hard to play it as a sci-fi RP game when everyone treats it like some sort of FPS.... BOOM! PODSHOT! MULTIKILL!!!11 _______________
Chimu Quien	Posted - 2007.08.08 23:05:00 - [60] Originally by: Dez Affinity BOOM! PODSHOT! MULTIKILL!!!11 It never takes long for a thread based on an interesting (and serious) question to degenerate into drivel.



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