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Chimu Quien
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Posted - 2007.08.08 00:50:00 -
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It seems that everywhere I go, 75% of the pilots have d00d names and bios that verge on being obscene. In local the chat is smack talk or l33t speak.
In Eve we have a chance to create a space away from RL and live out a kind of sci-fi fantasy. Why do so few people take advantage of that?
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Raivi
Explosion Matrix
Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.08.08 00:53:00 -
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There are plenty of people who get into character in this game. EvE's roleplayers are a really dedicated and creative group of people. There are a lot of corporations that roleplay as a group.
Check out the "Intergalactic Summit" and EvE Library" sections of the forums to meet a lot of them.
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Skornik
Gallente
BGG
League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.08.08 00:55:00 -
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I'm not a girl in real life - Iain M Banks said in his Culture novels I could change my gender - I fly an all powerful ship that responds to my brain impulses as I'm tied into it's system in a gel filled pod - yeah I'm getting into the sci-fi and RP... 
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Layrex
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.08.08 01:01:00 -
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It's hard to play it as a sci-fi RP game when everyone treats it like some sort of FPS....
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Patricia Bateman
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Posted - 2007.08.08 01:02:00 -
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I rolled a gallente char not long ago thinking I would could get a spaceship and roam the eve universe, discovering things and meeting people, mining, killing, etc.
Then it hit me - eve online is a huge economy pumping tens of thousands of ships into hundreds of wars and to attempt to RP it myself qua brave space captain in some kind of sci-fi game would be suicide.
In eve who/what you are doesn't actually 'exist' in the game, you are simply a heap of stats in control of a ship.
My MO now? Get money, turn it into ship and the biggest guns I can stick on it, get all the skill books I can afford, rat/mission run in low sec for muchos iskies and join a corp and have some fun blowing up other people doing the same thing as me =)
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Nicholas Barker
MASS
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2007.08.08 01:03:00 -
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itt we larp together!
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.08.08 01:27:00 -
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 Originally by: Chimu Quien
It seems that everywhere I go, 75% of the pilots have d00d names and bios that verge on being obscene. In local the chat is smack talk or l33t speak.
In Eve we have a chance to create a space away from RL and live out a kind of sci-fi fantasy. Why do so few people take advantage of that?
I do. While I like your name and take on the game I must say I'm offended by your scrawny face and illegally parked Raven.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.08 01:33:00 -
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EVE IS NOT FICTION
im not crazy
Real men fly Pink.
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.08.08 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Patricia Bateman
I rolled a gallente char not long ago thinking I would could get a spaceship and roam the eve universe, discovering things and meeting people, mining, killing, etc.
Then it hit me - eve online is a huge economy pumping tens of thousands of ships into hundreds of wars and to attempt to RP it myself qua brave space captain in some kind of sci-fi game would be suicide.
In eve who/what you are doesn't actually 'exist' in the game, you are simply a heap of stats in control of a ship.
Ok, so you're not the hero or the main character.
That doesn't mean that it isn't a sci-fi MMORPG. You have an alter ego. Whether you chose to roleplay your alter-ego or not is up to you.
As a roleplayer (or "immersionist" as some people would call me) I find that EVE has a very rich story to draw from if you want to play it that way. I basicly have the collective work of not only several authors, but the "fan works" of 200.000 players (since everything you do have an effect on the universe. This is not WoW or something like that. Everything you do has a very substantial effect, even if it's just bringing a few more ISK and minerals into the economy).
Of course the pod pilot population consists mainly of egomanical loonies with an e-peen complex, but I guess that's to be expected when they have an illusion of immortality (which is more like serial rebirth, as you die and die again and a nearly exact copy of you starts to exist every time you do. Quite disturbing really) and the capability to control a ship with mere thoughts.
If you want to roleplay, check out the Intergalactic summit or the Corperations and Alliance summit (both are RP only forums, the CAAS has additional rules).
A list of dedicated roleplaying corperations can be found here
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.08.08 01:46:00 -
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I play Eve like its Privateer with real people instead of npc's.. Those Dirty Minmater do well as substitute wannabe Kilrathi.. 
Originally by: David Hackworth
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VicturusTeSaluto
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Posted - 2007.08.08 01:54:00 -
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Roleplaying makes no sense, it's a video game. In games, the only point is to kill- not to pretend to be a chick/hit on dudes pretending to be chicks. If you want to pretend to be someone else you should go use your acting talents IRL.
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Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2007.08.08 02:00:00 -
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being a pod pilot apparently changes your brain hormone levels. the empires like these changes as it reduces the number of malcontents at home and they can manipulate many pod pilots into being good and useful servants. those who cannot remove themselves from empire space where they will serve as a buffer against hostile alien contact.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.08 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
Roleplaying makes no sense, it's a video game. In games, the only point is to kill- not to pretend to be a chick/hit on dudes pretending to be chicks. If you want to pretend to be someone else you should go use your acting talents IRL.
I don't think there has ever been a more fitting time for this...
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Chimu Quien
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Posted - 2007.08.08 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Layrex
It's hard to play it as a sci-fi RP game when everyone treats it like some sort of FPS....
That's what I'm getting at. Where are the roleplayers? Where are the sci-fi players? I don't see any of the roleplay corps. Their players never chat in local. They talk in the forum, but in-game it's all l33t speak.
In local chat it's all about dirty jokes, what you saw on TV, what happened in school, movies, etc. It's the same in NPC corp chat, and even in most player corp chat.
Names spelled with bizarre combinations of letters and numbers, bios that verge on obscenity...
No wonder there are so many 1 player corps. I think lots of people just form a corp for themselves to get away from NPC corp chatter and because there are so bloody few mature player corps...
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Anator Namon
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Posted - 2007.08.08 02:27:00 -
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people roleplay to varying degrees... but
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=472051
there definitely are completely in character chats, etc in some corps/alliances
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.08 02:30:00 -
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I'm a roleplayer. I just don't roleplay on Eve. 
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Sereifex Daku
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Posted - 2007.08.08 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
Roleplaying makes no sense, it's a video game. In games, the only point is to kill- not to pretend to be a chick/hit on dudes pretending to be chicks. If you want to pretend to be someone else you should go use your acting talents IRL.
1) While I only play EVE for the pew pewing, I do know that many play for other reasons, like manipulating the economy, achieving things with friends, and..oh yes, storytelling.
2) Not trying to attack you personally, but I think that this view is part of the reason that modern games suck. It's like 95% of games nowadays are just made for guys with way too much testosterone. I play games to shoot stuff, but I also like a story to go with the shooting of stuff, but since EVE is an mmo, it can not provide us with the kind of story that a single player game can. Thus we have roleplayers.
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Price Watcher
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Posted - 2007.08.08 02:58:00 -
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Role play is somewhat less than I expected when I started in 2004. For instance, most corps have members of all races.
If the background story held up 5% there would hardly be Minmatari and Amarrian-pig-dogs in the same corp. 
Most people do treat this as some sort of first person shooter. The number of griefer-punks rises every year.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.08 03:01:00 -
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hey now, i have one amarr member in my corporation and we have perfectly good rp reasons for it!
Real men fly Pink.
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.08.08 03:08:00 -
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One reason why there might be a lack of role players is because eve is one of the few sandbox MMOs with meaningful PvP mechanics.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.08 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Price Watcher
Role play is somewhat less than I expected when I started in 2004. For instance, most corps have members of all races.
If the background story held up 5% there would hardly be Minmatari and Amarrian-pig-dogs in the same corp.
Most people do treat this as some sort of first person shooter. The number of griefer-punks rises every year.
Not necessarily. I mean, aside from the Ammatar and such. There could easily be others who have cooperated with the Amarr.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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PathetiQ
Gallente
The Rat Pack
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Posted - 2007.08.08 03:20:00 -
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role playing is for rejected people in highschool dress in dark and ugly stuff!
Thats why we dont wanna "roleplay"
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Max Fantastic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.08.08 03:26:00 -
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I think this might change when you get the option to walk in stations. EVE is currently very impersonal, IMHO. You're always in your ship, your're always on task in one way or another.
Having said that, I actually think it's almost hard to not be in character in this game. Even if you're talking stats and PvP tactics, it still fits-- it's like talking shop. Even d00dish names fit, as far as I'm concerned-- they're like call signs-- or expressions of a very egomaniacal mind.
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2007.08.08 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: PathetiQ
role playing is for rejected people in highschool dress in dark and ugly stuff!
Thats why we dont wanna "roleplay"
Hey, those people are hawt :P
I tend not to roleplay in these games, more I just be myself, because isn't that in-character enough?
Sorry, but if EVE were a world where Ye-olde-english was part of the history of the books, or everybody knew what an electro-quantum-self-disrespec-tor was, then there'd be call to RP it. In a world where I could imagine I could exist, I don't think I really need to change anything about my attitude to escape from RL and be part of the new world. Because there's only one you. Awwwww,, group hug!
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Joskken Inx
PURE Legion
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.08.08 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: PathetiQ
role playing is for rejected people in highschool dress in dark and ugly stuff!
Thats why we dont wanna "roleplay"
I don't like your generalizations. If I could side by side my in-game char with my own pic I would (and can if this forum let me), but being a nationalist, corporate-driven Caldari isn't much a departure from being a Marine, corporate-driven American tbh. At least in my "role playing" case.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.08.08 03:42:00 -
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I roleplay a highwayman... I look for little defenseless jetcan miners and take their trash while they insult my mother
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Anferney
Ethereal Mercenary Services
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.08 03:49:00 -
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Look at the player driven history of 0.0 and its rather complex politics. It may not be role-playing based off of the eve-story line, but it is a rather dynamic roleplaying of a bunch of tiny nations constantly beating each other into oblivion.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.08 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
I roleplay a highwayman... I look for little defenseless jetcan miners and take their trash while they insult my mother
You are an excellent roleplayer. 
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.08.08 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: cal nereus
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
I roleplay a highwayman... I look for little defenseless jetcan miners and take their trash while they insult my mother
You are an excellent roleplayer.
He's my hero
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.08 04:45:00 -
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Sure they do. Stop by the forum section for the Library or Role-playing...
Although you might find the roleplaying section a little odd. Its camped by Amarr players who don't log in to play because being Amarr sucks so hard. *laughing*
There's fiction out there, stories from in-game written; its just that you have to understand...it sounds like the places you go are in lowsec. I'd daresay that 75% of the pilots there are freshly in from a counterstrike match, and are using their parents' credit cards to play.
Here's a bit of sci-fi fantasy for you. Epic fight!
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Wrayeth
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.08.08 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Layrex
It's hard to play it as a sci-fi RP game when everyone treats it like some sort of FPS....
Actually, these days people play it more like the world's largest and slowest RTS. TBH, it was more fun when people played it like a FPS. :(
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Cipher7
OldBastardsPub
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.08 06:45:00 -
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Saying "sup dude" in local is perfectly in-character.
This is the future not the past, slang might be different in the future but we don't know what slang they would use, or what language even.
And how do you know pod pilots don't take classes inside the station?
"I was in school today and..." Why would that be out-of-character?
"And my girlfriend said..." Do people in the future not have girlfriends?
"And on TV I saw..." TV could just be future slang for holovid.
I find Eve extremely immersive without anybody even trying. People don't even have to TRY to roleplay, a pirate acts like a pirate, a businessman acts like a businessman, everybody is in-character whether they're trying to be in-character or not.
The only thing that annoys me is when carebears post bios claiming to be "warriors" meanwhile they're in highsec in a NPC corp.
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Haffrage
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.08 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher7
Saying "sup dude" in local is perfectly in-character.
This is the future not the past, slang might be different in the future but we don't know what slang they would use, or what language even.
And how do you know pod pilots don't take classes inside the station?
"I was in school today and..." Why would that be out-of-character?
"And my girlfriend said..." Do people in the future not have girlfriends?
"And on TV I saw..." TV could just be future slang for holovid.
I find Eve extremely immersive without anybody even trying. People don't even have to TRY to roleplay, a pirate acts like a pirate, a businessman acts like a businessman, everybody is in-character whether they're trying to be in-character or not.
The only thing that annoys me is when carebears post bios claiming to be "warriors" meanwhile they're in highsec in a NPC corp.
That's something I always found interesting. In roleplaying terms there's a multilingual translator built into our pods. Anything written or spoken is translated as accurately as possible to reword an entire phrase, so it will properly convey the exact mood, tone, and formality of what was said.
So really, everything you see in local right now IS roleplayed by everyone else, they're just roleplaying what the translator would automatically print out for you
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Liliane Woodhead
Intergalactic Charwomen
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Posted - 2007.08.08 07:05:00 -
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I live here. Jita is my home :/
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.08 09:04:00 -
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Everything in Eve is RP.
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Russell Simmons
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Posted - 2007.08.08 09:09:00 -
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Eve just doesn't feel sci-fi enough for me to play it like a sci-fi game.
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Krulla
Minmatar
True Centii
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Posted - 2007.08.08 09:19:00 -
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Edited by: Krulla on 08/08/2007 09:21:20
It's very hard NOT to roleplay in EVE, to a certain extent.
Pod pilots, meaning every single EVE player, are immortals with enough funds to buy warships crewed by thousands, firing thermonuclear weapons and worse, and most are rich enough not to care when these thousands of people get killed because they were bored. They are completely detached from reality and the rest of the world, in the sense that they are so superior that normal people just don't matter to them. Most of them rarely even leave they're pods. Life is, to them, a giant videogame.
A pod pilot might well start attacking and destroying spaceships (gankers) for no reason whatsoever other than pure boredom. Why? It's just fun and games to them. Sure, thousands of people might die, a ship worth millions might be destroyed, but to them, all that doesn't matter. They just hop back to they're local tradehub and get a new ship, and another crew of thousands.
Really, no matter what you choose to do or how you do it or what you say in EVE, you're roleplaying.
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The Snowman
Gallente
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.08 09:23:00 -
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Why do you think it would be ANY different if it were real life?...
Cmon, its HUMANS which bring this society with them.. if, as humans, we were all flying around in spaceships shooting each other we would all give ourself's weird nicknames and alias's anyway!... as for smack talk.. people smack talk each other down the pub! why would would people NOT smack talk when trying to kill each other? (as im sure they do in real life wars)
Your post to me makes no sense.
There are good people and childish people.. everywhere that humans go we will always be the same, we wont ever change.
Im actually suprised at how MOST people ARE nice on eve!...
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Steini OFSI
Gallente
Minigame
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Posted - 2007.08.08 09:29:00 -
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I would assume that most, for example pirates are roleplayers.
They choose the role of a pirate, you don't see them waltzing down the street in their every life buisness in a pirate suit screaming yarr and shooting you?
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Vendrin
Caldari
APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.08 09:58:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=472051
If you want to get in the rp, there's a good place to start.
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DarthMopp
Gallente
I.O.S. - I.D.I.O.T.s in outer Space
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Posted - 2007.08.08 10:54:00 -
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Ok, i donŠt think that everything you do in this game is roleplaying. Most guys and girls i fly with i know in real life ( Community-Lan, Paintball Gathering and so on ) and i prefer to talk to them as my "RL-Me". Jesus...even my wife flys as my wingman when going to kick NPCs.
Can you imagine how they all would stare at me if i were talking like this: "Today was pretty close. I got the order from above to fly to a checkpoint and check whats up there. Suddenly from everywhere Angels warped in an kept me under constant fire.......and so on" instead of "Had Angel Extravangza earlier that day..almost lost my ship..damn...".
Those who want to play this game like a second life may do it this way. Its not my kind of playing something. When i am coming home from work i need some lazy hours with my friends in front of the Computer, chatting about some nonsense while kicking asses or even mining and not to dive into another self created world. I wont judge anybody who likes being a "real" roleplayer....i dont have the energy to create another world
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.08 11:00:00 -
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I talk like Darth Vader on TS, does that count?
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Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2007.08.08 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0
I talk like Darth Vader on TS, does that count?
It's true :P
Originally by: DarthMopp
"Today was pretty close. I got the order from above to fly to a checkpoint and check whats up there. Suddenly from everywhere Angels warped in an kept me under constant fire.......and so on"
Thing is, people only talk like this when they're narrating bad detective stories. A real pilot would say "[fornicating] Angel [illegitimate offspring]..." and move on - you're a professional Angel-hunter, you kill hundreds of them every day, having a few close shaves should barely register a comment. As a capsuleer you just have to take the universe as it comes, stay one step ahead of the curve and at least pretend that you're ridiculously gifted by normal standards in at least some areas, even if that doesn't translate into manners or bearing (evidence suggests that there are no psychological tests for capsuleers).
The only thing that's out of character in Eve really is crass stupidity and blatant 21st century references. Not only (as the other guy pointed out) are capsuleers almost entirely divorced from day-to-day life in the rest of the cluster, they're also the absolute cream of the crop in most cases. If you imagine that the average attribute makeup of the average Eve citizen is 1/1/1/1/1, that's probably a good baseline of comparison for your own stats. There's trillions upon trillions of people in the Eve cluster, and probably around 400,000 registered capsuleers (counting same-account alts) at any one time. You do the math :)
Also, most of the best RPers in Eve are leaders of major alliances, although they won't acknowledge the fact ;)
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.08 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Everything in Eve is RP.
^^ what that man said.
People can argue against it all they want, but on some level or other everything you do in Eve is RP.
As for playing Eve as a Sci-Fi game... I've been doing it since i started playing.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.08.08 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 08/08/2007 11:50:08
Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 08/08/2007 11:48:55
I don't know what this "in character" is, but i bet it's one of those trendy words the nerds back at the academy used when they had their HARP sessions. That, hologram...action..role...whatnot.
Anyhoo.
I've often heard that people wonder about the boards, these intergalactic discussion forums that is, and the smilies that have been around for eons now. Some say they ain't "in character" either. Weird people.
Also there's the communication system, that is text based due to some security reasons, which allows corporations and other tabs to be used in communication. This too is often said to have "non character" things, like smilies, in it. But again, it's just a system that's been in use for thousands of years. If i remember correctly, it started with this "inter-net/web" thing. Didn't pay much attention on the history lessons.
Then there's the names. These are also often said to be "non character", but you should've been in the academy when there was this one guy with a callsign "L33tD00d". He wasn't a bad pilot, but hearing that on the voice-com a milllion times did tick me the wrong way sometimes. Callsigns should be assigned by the instructor, not by the pilot.
Then there's the whole issue of calling intergalactic changes to equipment as "nerfs". People forget that there's the "intergalactic goverment" that observes and decides on many of the aspects in everyday life. Like the "nano nerf", which was simply a security measure 'cause many of the "nano ships" exceeded the galactic safety codes. They are keeping us safe and the ships more reliable with these changes.
I guess, there's some people who like to call anyone not being all "hail to thee"as non roleplay people, but i find it to be a big tub of bogwash
Though i am a bit concerned on how many people think of our lives as a "game".
Also, i had to adapt a bit to the "lingo" going about. So i tend to call pilots "players" and some such things, just the way the new world revolves i guess.
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Zoea
Minmatar
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.08.08 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme
EVE IS NOT FICTION
im not crazy
he's right
the funny thing is that it appears to be lol. Oh well I can never get enough, you know? :)
HAHAHAHA..
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2007.08.08 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Chimu Quien
It seems that everywhere I go, 75% of the pilots have d00d names and bios that verge on being obscene. In local the chat is smack talk or l33t speak.
In Eve we have a chance to create a space away from RL and live out a kind of sci-fi fantasy. Why do so few people take advantage of that?
The names certainly get to me as well. The problem was that CCP never included a name filter. Even if they introduced one tomorrow it would be impossible to clean up all the names now.
They do indeed detract from the game I think. And it isn't just the leet names that do. Names like Cyno One or Hauler One etc or the ones that are nonsensical strings of letters also detract from the game environment.
I doubt CCP gave much thought to how folks would name their characters. They probably relied on the good faith of the customers and that faith was misplaced in this area for many individuals.
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Rabbit Boiler
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Posted - 2007.08.08 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Russell Simmons
Eve just doesn't feel sci-fi enough for me to play it like a sci-fi game.
Yeh I know what you mean.. the space ships and the flying in space thing.. and the futuristic development of human beings.. its just not..
oh wait..
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Threv Echandari
Caldari
Dragons Of Redemption
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.08 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Threv Echandari on 08/08/2007 13:08:58
Put me in the Everything you do in the game is RP Camp. When I'm on TS with my corpies, hours could go by with not a single Out of game Comment beyond "Bio Break" or "Wife aggro" getting used. I have nodded off in station to sounds of my d00ds "droning" on about resistances, and speed mods, POS management and the latest gate camp, which alliance is f..ing which etc.
I note that the whole RP aspect comes out without even trying... sure some of game stuff gets talked about but in the whole of things I'm pretty immeresed in the game. Since I live out in 0.0 most of my concerns are with Alliance War things so I don't interact too much with the "Empire" folk. But once in awhile I tune in to the Amarr Channel which has a lot of "RP'rs" in it. Its almost like watching TV/News when your vacationing in foreign country.. Kinda cool actually.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2007.08.08 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Wendat Huron on 08/08/2007 13:09:22
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
Roleplaying makes no sense, it's a video game. In games, the only point is to kill- not to pretend to be a chick/hit on dudes pretending to be chicks. If you want to pretend to be someone else you should go use your acting talents IRL.
Ok I'll take this flamebait and raise it a level.
Gaming makes no sense. In life the only point is to kill, not to pretend to be someones friend, ally, contractor or for that matter waste time playing games, just kill. If you want to socialize then there's supposedly a pretend realm beyond this one.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.08 13:10:00 -
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So....I'm not playing Dr. Mario?
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Billy Sastard
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.08 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Everything in Eve is RP.
^^ what that man said.
People can argue against it all they want, but on some level or other everything you do in Eve is RP.
As for playing Eve as a Sci-Fi game... I've been doing it since i started playing.
I tend to agree with these posts. What really is stopping someone thousands of years in the future from calling themselves "XxXUb4r k1LL4r666XxX"? This is in the future after all, which means everything we have done today is going to be repeated at some time right?
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DubanFP
Caldari
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.08 14:37:00 -
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Unlike in most MMOs you don't have to roleplay to be in-character. EVE is built as a harsh cold world set in the future, why not talk as you wish?
In EVE it's not uncommon to talk about numbers like tracking, resists, falloff, ect. And even THAT is in-character. EVE is a numbers game, and because of that you don't have to roleplay to be in-character. So why roleplay?
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Trak'anon
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Posted - 2007.08.08 15:07:00 -
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Eve is serious science fiction buisness
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Regat Kozovv
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.08.08 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Krulla
Edited by: Krulla on 08/08/2007 09:21:20
It's very hard NOT to roleplay in EVE, to a certain extent.
I'm inclined to agree. While some people have noted that the 21st century references and such sometimes distract from it, by and large everything that takes place is well, quite believable. As was noted, we, the pilots, are the galaxy's prima donnas. We don't anwser to authority or rank unless it's one we freely accept as part of our corporation. As such, we don't need to act or behave in a certain fashion as if we were to resemble actors in a Sci-Fi drama. We are free to act as we wish, and the attitudes we convey can either impress or discourage others, just as the people we meet on the street can give us a feeling of admiration or disdain. Certainly, some of us may turn our noses at some pilot flying by in his Thorax named "Teh Stone Boner", but those types exist in our current society as well. If anything, the presence thereof of those types makes it more believable for me, given that while EVE's society exists far in the future, in some ways, it is not too far from our own.
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Billy Sastard
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.08 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Regat Kozovv
Originally by: Krulla
Edited by: Krulla on 08/08/2007 09:21:20
It's very hard NOT to roleplay in EVE, to a certain extent.
I'm inclined to agree. While some people have noted that the 21st century references and such sometimes distract from it, by and large everything that takes place is well, quite believable. As was noted, we, the pilots, are the galaxy's prima donnas. We don't anwser to authority or rank unless it's one we freely accept as part of our corporation. As such, we don't need to act or behave in a certain fashion as if we were to resemble actors in a Sci-Fi drama. We are free to act as we wish, and the attitudes we convey can either impress or discourage others, just as the people we meet on the street can give us a feeling of admiration or disdain. Certainly, some of us may turn our noses at some pilot flying by in his Thorax named "Teh Stone Boner", but those types exist in our current society as well. If anything, the presence thereof of those types makes it more believable for me, given that while EVE's society exists far in the future, in some ways, it is not too far from our own.
Wow you just did a 200% better job of explaning what I was trying to get across...
Bravo :D
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ChimeraRouge
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.08.08 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
Roleplaying makes no sense, it's a video game. In games, the only point is to kill- not to pretend to be a chick/hit on dudes pretending to be chicks. If you want to pretend to be someone else you should go use your acting talents IRL.
I agree.. You guys who roleplay should get laid or go outside once in a while.
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BritishInvader
Amarr
Leela's Lamas
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Posted - 2007.08.08 22:28:00 -
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People playing an MMORPG as a game and not living through it?
MADNESS
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Dez Affinity
Caldari
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.08 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Layrex
It's hard to play it as a sci-fi RP game when everyone treats it like some sort of FPS....
BOOM! PODSHOT!
MULTIKILL!!!11
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Chimu Quien
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Posted - 2007.08.08 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dez Affinity
BOOM! PODSHOT!
MULTIKILL!!!11
It never takes long for a thread based on an interesting (and serious) question to degenerate into drivel.
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Wind Ictiva
Delta Kappa Gamma
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Posted - 2007.08.08 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher7
Saying "sup dude" in local is perfectly in-character.
This is the future not the past, slang might be different in the future but we don't know what slang they would use, or what language even.
And how do you know pod pilots don't take classes inside the station?
"I was in school today and..." Why would that be out-of-character?
"And my girlfriend said..." Do people in the future not have girlfriends?
"And on TV I saw..." TV could just be future slang for holovid.
I find Eve extremely immersive without anybody even trying. People don't even have to TRY to roleplay, a pirate acts like a pirate, a businessman acts like a businessman, everybody is in-character whether they're trying to be in-character or not.
The only thing that annoys me is when carebears post bios claiming to be "warriors" meanwhile they're in highsec in a NPC corp.
must agree. its easy to rp in games that happen in the past. we know (or at least think we know) how people spoke then. how do we know how ppl speak in the future?
also in eve, a loss is a "real" loss. its at times difficult to remember its just a game ppl take it personally. difficult to stay in character when youŠve lost your faction fitted command ship
Originally by: Admiral Love
Hmm creating a thread like this is perhaps a little like sitting naked with bleeding balls in a pool of piranhas. I Won't do it again - most of you guys are pretty nasty.
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Wanoah
Minmatar
NeuroGEN
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Posted - 2007.08.09 09:49:00 -
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I think the only real immersion breaker for me is that as pod pilots, we're supposed to be among the elite of society. You have to have the 'right stuff' to not end up being a vegetable after your first attempt at interfacing with the pod. So how do you explain the demonstrably stupid people that clutter the local channels? 
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.08.09 10:37:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 09/08/2007 10:36:52
Originally by: Wanoah
I think the only real immersion breaker for me is that as pod pilots, we're supposed to be among the elite of society. You have to have the 'right stuff' to not end up being a vegetable after your first attempt at interfacing with the pod. So how do you explain the demonstrably stupid people that clutter the local channels?
Isn't that just what the warning label sayes?
"Warning: The untrained mind might become gooey(tech.term) inside a POD interface."
They just never figure it out before those pilots are already out there, bumping to stations, lolling at "gas" clouds and such'n'such
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.09 11:12:00 -
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On the subject of "weird names; from a RP perspective, just consider them "call signs" as opposed to given names. Like in BSG, theres Starbuck and Hot Dog and Race Track and all sorts of crazily named folks flying around the inky void.
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fuze
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Posted - 2007.08.09 11:28:00 -
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Eve has no dental plan.
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