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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.02.02 12:52:00 -
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LMFAO
Spawn of the Devil
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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:00:00 -
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It is good to see a post about a large CA/SA engagement that hasn't degenerated into a flame fest.
The loss count I witnessed was 2 SA BS downed inside DSS by joint CA/C4 forces (with an unconfirmed SA BS killed in the primary engagement however with the lag it's impossible to be sure. I'll take SA's word on that). I believe C4 lost 2 bbirds, CA lost 1 cruiser and not sure on SA cruiser losses.
2 SA BS's fell to C4 forces while approaching and exiting from DSS in the chain of stain. No C4 losses there.
SA/CA war:
[EV]Main is correct about this being the longest and bloodiest war in Eve history. It has went back and forth with many exciting twists and turns as any of the epic sagas of old.
OC and CA have different reasons for the war. OC would not be interested in peace talks until certain SA corps are publically ousted from SA. The war has great meaning to C4 and is not simply to have someone to war with.
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Moah
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: Moah on 02/02/2004 13:02:05
YEESS CA PWNED US EVERY DAY 
i see flames again...
omg tooo funny...
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: Moah on 02/02/2004 13:02:05
YEESS CA PWNED US EVERY DAY
i see flames again...
omg tooo funny...
And from here the phun starts.
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:36:00 -
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It is good to see a post about a large CA/SA engagement that hasn't degenerated into a flame fest.
The loss count I witnessed was 2 SA BS downed inside DSS by joint CA/C4 forces (with an unconfirmed SA BS killed in the primary engagement however with the lag it's impossible to be sure. I'll take SA's word on that). I believe C4 lost 2 bbirds, CA lost 1 cruiser and not sure on SA cruiser losses.
2 SA BS's fell to C4 forces while approaching and exiting from DSS in the chain of stain. No C4 losses there.
SA/CA war:
[EV]Main is correct about this being the longest and bloodiest war in Eve history. It has went back and forth with many exciting twists and turns as any of the epic sagas of old.
OC and CA have different reasons for the war. OC would not be interested in peace talks until certain SA corps are publically ousted from SA. The war has great meaning to C4 and is not simply to have someone to war with.
I don't think for one minute that Everlasting Vendetta purposely undermined Omega Corporation in anyway, some of the incidents that have been stated were mistakes and others could be misunderstandings. Before Omega Corporation left/thrown out of the Alliance, i wasn't actually aware of any serious bad blood between any Stain Alliance corporations, apart from the matter when we accidently mined in your area.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.02.02 13:51:00 -
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You guys know whats so funny about this all, if you never left Empire space you all would have ALOT more ISK than you do now.
Ofc it wouldnt have been as much fun but hot damn you would have had so much more just mining scordite instead of fighting over high end ore and constantly loose ships/ISK 
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.02 14:50:00 -
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(with an unconfirmed SA BS killed in the primary engagement however with the lag it's impossible to be sure. I'll take SA's word on that).
If you are talking about Rampage's scorp, then it was not a kill as he made it out.
And btw, CA lost yet another Apocalypse to Squirrel
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You guys know whats so funny about this all, if you never left Empire space you all would have ALOT more ISK than you do now.
Ofc it wouldnt have been as much fun but hot damn you would have had so much more just mining scordite instead of fighting over high end ore and constantly loose ships/ISK
And we would have had even more isk if we had just been mining highend ore in stain without travelling all the way over the galaxy to attack corps such as m0o, Sinc, m3g4, RC etc...
But that wouldn't have been any fun.
As for the reasons for the war...
We were in war with Sinc, m0o and RC before the CA was formed. They are gone from Curse now. But CA told us they would fight on behalf of those corps and attacked us.
So imo it's pretty much in their hands if they want to continue to fight on behalf of these corps.
As mentioned though, some of the corps/persons in CA fight for other reasons.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.02.02 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 02/02/2004 15:31:09
There is too much bad blood between Stain and Curse for a lasting peace.
Most people know what they are getting into when they join either side, they may join for the opportunity to get rich on the 0.0 minerals, but they know they will be expected to fight.
Some people like the political/spy stuff, others the PvP.
Personally, and i know the majority of Curse likes having someone only a few jumps away to fight, its fun!
You just know if we ever had peace, either stain or curse would attack CFS to try to relive the fun 
Seriously, how many 100's of Stain and Curse players would have quit Eve months ago without anyone to PvP against?
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Grimveous
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Posted - 2004.02.02 15:39:00 -
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both SA and CA are creating some very strong pvp'ers in the battles which we have taken place in, and respect all of CA's pilots strengths just as i would SA  (well except some of Lallantes smack talk sometimes, but im sure weve all done it before, so i shall forgive you ) It's good fun but i keep thinking oh how strong we could be if we were an alliance, would be scary 
My post is in no way related with my corps or alliances opinions and views
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.02.02 16:18:00 -
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You just know if we ever had peace, either stain or curse would attack CFS to try to relive the fun
Nah....m0o is taking care of that problem right now....
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.02.02 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Omniwar on 02/02/2004 16:28:40
If CA and SA would make peace and band togather then I think you all would either become inactive after few weeks or simply quit since m0o would have to eliminate you all 
Nah, tbh the game would become a bit dull for all parties involved because m0o would have to eliminate you
God damn weed 
But a true sign of weakness is when enemies start talking about peace and banding togather, if peaple cant finish what has started them they should surrender, not referring to either side, just pointing that out.
I personally dont like some alliances for few reasons, they ALL ganged up against 1, that is such a huge sign of oppression and cowardice that it strikes me.
Alliance wars are cool, but when they start banding up and attacking another allaince for some silly reasons that are way outdated is just plain dumb.
Simular as is happening in fountain, currently there is a fight for the region as new Lords are staking their claim but 3 more allainces come to the aid.
If alliance cant defend its home with its own militery then they have no claim.
And the meaning of regional alliance looses its meaning if they cant manage their own, as it is now it seems that all alliances except 2 are banded togather while every alliance should try to kill or destroy the other one when ever possible to get that extra mile over others from selling more ships/minerals, else its just no fun.
Sorry for the ranting but its a problem I think, its to repeative and that gets boring in the end.
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nails
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Posted - 2004.02.02 17:06:00 -
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Good question. SA attacked CA because of corps like Sinister and m0o joining CA, right? Well, Sinister is pretty much gone, m0o is anywhere but Curse nowadays and all of the 'pirate' corps seem to have left Curse or died/been killed off.
So...umm.. what's all the shooting about now? Is it just about having someone to shoot at?
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You bring up a good point and they are accurate statements about Sinister being pretty much gone and Moo being gone. Could some sort of cease-fire be written up to end the bloodiest war in Eve history? Curse Alliance have stated in the past that they are against pirates, what would the possibility be of sorting out a joint operation against Moo and the other pirate corporations and to bring both warring alliance together?
Of course, this is just me. There is a lot of bad blood between a few corporations in both alliances though.
This is the first time I've seen posts like this from SA. I was starting to wonder how many "good" corps would have to join CA before people stopped calling it a pirate alliance. It is one of the largest misconseptions about this alliance. I really hope some day everyone stops poking at the pirate thing because it doesn't exsist, and is an annoyance for corporations that are in CA. In the future I'd like to see other alliances stop with the pirate label of CA.
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OC and CA have different reasons for the war. OC would not be interested in peace talks until certain SA corps are publically ousted from SA. The war has great meaning to C4 and is not simply to have someone to war with.
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I don't think for one minute that Everlasting Vendetta purposely undermined Omega Corporation in anyway, some of the incidents that have been stated were mistakes and others could be misunderstandings. Before Omega Corporation left/thrown out of the Alliance, i wasn't actually aware of any serious bad blood between any Stain Alliance corporations, apart from the matter when we accidently mined in your area.
What SA did to Omega (coming from a 3rd party view to the whole thing) is extremely lame. Omega has done nothing wrong but help in SA in every way you could think of, from sharing combat tactics to aiding other strong corporations into SA. All the thanks they get is a big fat EV finger pointing at them accusing them of hording resources up in a the top left corner of stain that takes over 20 jumps from the bottleneck to even get to. Then after the fingers were pointed and OC even agreed to the first lay out of terms to try to keep any more bad blood from building in SA. So what happened to the corporations like Mass and Solar Wind that had good relations with OC even during this whole council ordeal? They didn't come to aid or speak out for SA's more powerful pvp link. Instead (and I still do not understand the reason for this, even after reading 100+ threads about it) why they folded their arms and hid behind the SA council vote. This decision SA made proved to be their worst decision ever, and has all but brought around their demise. There are no excuses for what happened between SA and OC, it was very lame.
Also keep in mind again, that OTC was third party, we were not in, and never had been in any regional alliance before this incident. We came in with a completely fresh view of the entire situation. SA has allot of bowing and seppuku'ing to do before the bad blood between C4 and SA is ever cleared up.
*points finger at SA*
Even though you were hurt the most by your decision, how do you think OC felt when you handed them the shaft? 
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.02.02 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Nirvy on 02/02/2004 17:24:34
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You just know if we ever had peace, either stain or curse would attack CFS to try to relive the fun
Nah....m0o is taking care of that problem right now....
Hey teel!! Glad your having fun again in m0o! Just save some people for CA to kill kay mate
wtf didnt End's pay US 2bn when we were talking about peace with CFS 
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.02.02 17:25:00 -
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both SA and CA are creating some very strong pvp'ers in the battles which we have taken place in, and respect all of CA's pilots strengths just as i would SA (well except some of Lallantes smack talk sometimes, but im sure weve all done it before, so i shall forgive you ) It's good fun but i keep thinking oh how strong we could be if we were an alliance, would be scary
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.02 17:27:00 -
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This is the first time I've seen posts like this from SA. I was starting to wonder how many "good" corps would have to join CA before people stopped calling it a pirate alliance. It is one of the largest misconseptions about this alliance. I really hope some day everyone stops poking at the pirate thing because it doesn't exsist, and is an annoyance for corporations that are in CA. In the future I'd like to see other alliances stop with the pirate label of CA.
The first post you quoted was not by a SA member.
Almost all pirates may be gone from Curse now.
But the alliance was formed by pirates, and all CA's conflicts were caused by those pirates.
The "good" corps that joined decided to protect pirates to get access to rare ore.
And they are still friends with those pirates.
Hence if CA want to wash away that label, they better do something about it.
I'll continue to kill CA ships until they come crawling.
And nails, do I have to list for you how many bistot belts OC had compared to us in MASS for example? A redestribution of the systems were needed. Not even an OC-member can say that the old destribution was fair.
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.02.02 17:31:00 -
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Well, i have a unique viewpoint since i was present at the founding of CA and was one of the original organizers of the alliance. However, i am once again pirate so that influences me as well. Since i know many of the corps still in CA, i personally don't ever see the possibility of peace between CA and SA.
First, the arrogance and blatent disregard exhibited by the SA council (OC crisis particularly) and the intense power struggle that grips the SA council would put a serious hamper on any peace proposal. Second, just overall bad blood that comes from the beginning of the formation of the CA will be hard to overcome as well. Thirdly, peace is boring and lame. Blowing up stuff is just too much fun right now and i dont see that changing anytime soon. Fourthly, as new alliance structures come into the game and eventually player structures enter the picture, the actual ability to claim areas would just be too much for some...leading to war again most likely.
Thats just my opinion on the matter. In the months of fighting SA and company....the only real corporations that I and most of CA ever respected was Omega Corp....and we all know how that turned out.
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.02.02 17:36:00 -
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Lolz heya Nirvy
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wtf didnt End's pay US 2bn when we were talking about peace with CFS
Yeah, that whole pile of crap hit the fan pretty hard. CFS basically kicked Ends out for "collaborating" with us pirates. Anywho's....might wanna hurry up, CFS' days are numbered as far as i am concerned. And once the other half of m0o returns from their SWG escapade the time will be short =)
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2004.02.02 18:52:00 -
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Just to set the records straight C4 group had cruisers our group did not. The losses were 2 C4 Cruisers we took 0 losses. I can confirm killing 2 battleships which i took part of moahs megathron and Arkanh's scorpion C4 group took out 2 battleships on their way into and out of dss i believe they have confirmed those kills with screenshots.
We warped into the station and i found that fight unbelievably boring due to the distance each force was at most of the forces were at 120K apart the ones that show 80-90KM are the closest ones. The damage being done was like being in a cruiser due to distance.
As for peace i'll keep on fighting till eve's hamster powered wheel breaks and the server closes down.
By the end of the month we may post our kill table for SA to have a chance to come forth and rectify any errors or dispute with the record.
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Ange1
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Posted - 2004.02.02 20:36:00 -
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Edited by: Ange1 on 02/02/2004 20:42:03
As Ratfink said, screens below for those 2 BS killed at gates.
Dying Megathron
Dying Scorp 1
Dying Scorp 2
I found the fight enjoyable just to watch. So spectacular regardless of the lag. I was useless though because my poor Thorax only has a 55km targeting range and I didn't exactly want to charge a fleet of BS on my own, so I was just MWD'ing around the battlefield enjoying the show and taking potshots when I could ;)
Oh and thanks Omniwar for the info on getting links to work.
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Main
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Posted - 2004.02.02 20:40:00 -
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Nails, from what i have understood of the whole Everlasting Vendetta/Stain Alliance vs Omega ordeal that happened a few month back, i don't know everything that went on. There were common mistakes made by a few Everlasting Vendetta pilots at the beginning where some of the rules were a bit confusing for them, but i didn't know of any problems until Omega left the alliance. I am sorry, but your opinion doesn't mean much. You're an outsider looking in, i'm in insider and i don't even know everything that went on.
As for Stain and the other alliances coming to the aid of either the Forsaken Empire or Fountain, i do believe that the universe is sliced straight down the middle.
One side being Stain, Fountain, and the old Venal Alliance.
The other side being Curse, Forsaken, Moo and a few others.
It really isn't that simple though.
I also agree that the best warriors and fighters are in Stain, Curse or Moo, as we're the ones that are fighting every single day. There was a post a few weeks back about who the most powerful alliance was, everyone said Fountain as they had all the riches and all of the ships, we can see now that ships and money can not overcome sheer battle experience.
Main
Everlasting Vendetta Veteran
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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.02.03 06:44:00 -
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There was a post a few weeks back about who the most powerful alliance was, everyone said Fountain as they had all the riches and all of the ships, we can see now that ships and money can not overcome sheer battle experience. -[EV]Main
For once I whole heartedly agree with an EV statement.
Too many corps view war as a waste of resources which is very short sighted. You don't build a powerful military with pretty ships, it's the men and their experience / traininig that makes a military powerful. In Eve, size isn't as important as tactics, experience and coordination. Size only matters when you have opposing forces that are close in PvP skills.
So to the short sighted corps all I can say is you should look at your military budget as an investment unless you are comfy in empire space.
To the corps that understand this concept and are looking for PvP experience & fun... C4 would like to chat with you about your future. We can be reached at oc-public
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Morlocke
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Posted - 2004.02.03 19:00:00 -
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This is the first time I've seen posts like this from SA. I was starting to wonder how many "good" corps would have to join CA before people stopped calling it a pirate alliance. It is one of the largest misconseptions about this alliance. I really hope some day everyone stops poking at the pirate thing because it doesn't exsist, and is an annoyance for corporations that are in CA. In the future I'd like to see other alliances stop with the pirate label of CA.
Ummm, Nails, good luck on that. Maybe when your alliance stops freely supporting pirate corps, then you'll at least have the possibility of the rest of the world considering that you might not be turds after all.
Do me a big favor. Check out how many of your fellow member-corps have a sterling 10.0 rating set for M0o. Then come back here and cry about everyone calling you a "pirate alliance."
Sorry to be hard on this point, but you really are either not looking closely at your alliance members, or you are just lying like a rug.
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.02.03 19:28:00 -
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Frankly, I don't care if people call us a pirate alliance. I guess we are since we can actually defend our territory and attack other people's territory. Oh well. |
Lightor
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Posted - 2004.02.03 19:35:00 -
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This is the first time I've seen posts like this from SA. I was starting to wonder how many "good" corps would have to join CA before people stopped calling it a pirate alliance. It is one of the largest misconseptions about this alliance. I really hope some day everyone stops poking at the pirate thing because it doesn't exsist, and is an annoyance for corporations that are in CA. In the future I'd like to see other alliances stop with the pirate label of CA.
Ummm, Nails, good luck on that. Maybe when your alliance stops freely supporting pirate corps, then you'll at least have the possibility of the rest of the world considering that you might not be turds after all.
Do me a big favor. Check out how many of your fellow member-corps have a sterling 10.0 rating set for M0o. Then come back here and cry about everyone calling you a "pirate alliance."
Sorry to be hard on this point, but you really are either not looking closely at your alliance members, or you are just lying like a rug.
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Friendly standing towards previous alliance members does not mean that you commit or supporting piracy youself.
Maybe you should take a step back and think before you speak of things that you obviously don't have enough information about.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.02.04 03:21:00 -
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I dont get why it is such a bad thing to have friends that may have chosen the "shady" life in Eve. Just because some of your friends become pirates does that mean ur gonna drop them as friends and never speak again? No. I for one have friends inside m0o and i will never drop them as friends so i dont see why you think we should disown (for lack of a better word) m0o. When did SA all of a sudden become judge and jury because i sure as hell didnt get the memo.
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Panzer
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Posted - 2004.02.04 03:31:00 -
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[Quote]Frankly, I don't care if people call us a pirate alliance. I guess we are since we can actually defend our territory and attack other people's territory. Oh well.[/Quote]
I wouldn't say that, you guys weren't on the offensive much. We camped much of CA/e02 for much of the day till you guys could muster a force 3X ours and have the balls to actually attack.
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Soren
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Posted - 2004.02.04 05:26:00 -
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Edited by: Soren on 04/02/2004 05:36:36
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Edited by: Ange1 on 02/02/2004 02:40:36
I took plenty of screenshots of the fights we had today, some links are provided below. This was my first time in a major battle. Been in plenty of fleet ops, but they never really get much action except for the odd stray ship, oh well:
http://project90.aenonimity.com/eve/fight11.jpg
http://project90.aenonimity.com/eve/fight12.jpg
http://project90.aenonimity.com/eve/fight13.jpg
http://project90.aenonimity.com/eve/fight14.jpg
http://project90.aenonimity.com/eve/fight15.jpg
http://project90.aenonimity.com/eve/fight16.jpg
http://project90.aenonimity.com/eve/fight17.jpg
http://project90.aenonimity.com/eve/fight18.jpg
http://project90.aenonimity.com/eve/fight19.jpg
Angel
Didn't do such a good job covering up the channel you were hiding on these ss's
dss1
dss2
dss3
dss4
dss5
dss6
dss7
sorry
*EDIT* pfft, it's empty anywayz, lol
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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.02.04 06:02:00 -
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Just to set the records straight C4 group had cruisers our group did not. -Ratfink
Ummm, sorry but there was at least one CA [TEC]Thorax and I'm pretty sure another Thorax.
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I wouldn't say that, you guys weren't on the offensive much. We camped much of CA/e02 for much of the day till you guys could muster a force 3X ours and have the balls to actually attack. -[Evol]Panzer
Puhlease. The majority of battles I witnessed in e02 had evol safespotting until they would warp in at 150-200 range, take a few pot shots and bail. Not very effective as their weapons were like pea shooters at that range. These engagements were against nearly equal forces so unless you are refering to another battle I didn't see then this is simply bs.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.02.04 08:36:00 -
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Edited by: Iluyen on 04/02/2004 08:37:28
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[Quote]Frankly, I don't care if people call us a pirate alliance. I guess we are since we can actually defend our territory and attack other people's territory. Oh well.[/Quote]
I wouldn't say that, you guys weren't on the offensive much. We camped much of CA/e02 for much of the day till you guys could muster a force 3X ours and have the balls to actually attack.
Hard to mount an offensive against someone that hides in a safespot all night. Oh wait thats not true, every hour or so you jumped in at 100 km just to run to your safespot again.
Btw it would help if you didn't count SA/GWP/FA on our side when calculating your odds. We attacked you with lesser numbers and guess what you still ran. Evol is a bunch of cowards period.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.02.04 11:05:00 -
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[Quote]Frankly, I don't care if people call us a pirate alliance. I guess we are since we can actually defend our territory and attack other people's territory. Oh well.[/Quote]
I wouldn't say that, you guys weren't on the offensive much. We camped much of CA/e02 for much of the day till you guys could muster a force 3X ours and have the balls to actually attack.
OMG OMG OMG OMG
What a great thing to hear from you.
Do you know that you corp mates ran away from m0o when we warp to them, and we even had the same numbers LMFAO.
What a friggin wannaby tards you all are.
Claim strong, claim big, but no matter how much you try you will always be chickens.
Since Evolution actually ran from even numbers after you saying this is just so funny
Spawn of the Devil
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