The trade window is terrible, and vulnerable to sleight of hand - and you shouldn't use it for commerce.

What probably happened was they put in 95 million, then zeroed it *and then hit accept*, and you didn't notice them zeroing the value before you hit accept.

Use the contract system instead.

and it's unlikely your petition would result in anything. Chalk it up as an eve lesson and get back at it.

if you haven't been bankrupt by a scam or gank at least once, you haven't been playing EVE
They wont admit it, but everyone here has had it happen in some form or another at least once

Good luck with that

And I'm so glad you found the money to form your own corp a few minutes ago. Not so broke, huh?

Yea but the point still stands, CCP needs to fix dumb **** like this. You may not have the resources of Blizzard but damn, you cant make a properly working trade window? Really? C'mon CCP...

Hm, I wondered how that worked. I had someone offer me a ship for well below cost, a trade window popped up along with the ship. I could not figure out how such a scam would work, but this being eve I closed the trade window.

Lag scam? So they zeroed the amount and hit accept at just the right time so the OP never saw it happen due to lag?

Are you sure you saw 95.000.000.00 and not 95.000.00?

Remember to ALWAYS count the digits and subtract by two (as those last two are "cents").

Yeah... dumb interface deatails thingy. But somehow... I have this nagging suspicion that CCP made it this way on purpose for this exact reason.

I understand that you're upset about losing your ship, but I suggest you just move on. You got scammed, it happens if you're not careful.

You can petition it but can you prove that the trade window said 95 million when you hit the accept button???? Probably not. It will just waste a gm's time to look at it.

It's just the way it is *shrug*. Eve isn't perfect but what else are you gonna play? World of Warcraft?

GǪexcept that scamming is explicitly and purposefully allowed by the game designers. Its existence has nothing to do with apathy.

Your Domi fit sucks anyway

The Guristas are ********.

You combine buffer and active tanks, you use a mag stab on a ship where your DPS comes from drones.... it doesn't take much to make a Domi invincible in L4s, but it takes some intelligence to fit it properly. No wonder you're so broke for such an old player, it takes you ages to do the simplest of L4s, and its mind numbingly boring to do it.

You think being able to kill rats enables you to judge whether a fit is good or not? That's freaking hilarious coming from someone like you, who's played this game for years. I can hop into an armor drake and do L4's. Just saying. I see ratters rat with the most stupid fits every day.

You'll do good staying in high sec, running missions all day.

You know, you bring up a very good point

People always talk about EVE in terms of

"Risk vs Reward"

Where is the risk for scammer?

Can someone give a legimate reason as to why there is a risk for a scammer selling Carbon to someone who thinks its a Charon? Cause if there is no LEGITIMATE risk, this game activity needs to be put in line with all the other activities of EVE that require risk.

Sigh... There was some sympathy at the start of the thread. shame you went a ruined it really.... grow up mate, it's a game.

For what?

Do you also propose that CCP should start catching you and banning you for shooting those Guristas?

Except that it's not. Well, unless you're an ISK sellerGǪ in which case they most certainly should ban you, not the scammer.

Scamming is legitimate gameplay. Why would they ban people for playing the game?

If believe you got hit by a bug file a bug report. If that bug is confirmed (that bug is very very old btw) you refere to it in your petition. Whining about a bug on the forum that was exploited will and always has spawn trolls. It never spawned devs.

I was considering offering you 100m myself (provided your petition went nowhere), but apparently I'm too selfish. Actually, it's more that I'm too generous and would be broke all the time if I gave in to every sad story. No joke, I'm the kind of person who gives $5 to every panhandler and beggar I encounter IRL.

What's important is that you learned a lesson. You were lucky enough that folks chose to help you out in your time of need. You need to get together with people who'll tell you about stuff like this, such as public chat channels for various corporations or alliances (E-UNI is one that's populous and accessible). There are also plenty of lists of EVE scams you can Google.

Have you come to expect humility from anyone here on the EVE forums?

Let's see, you're a mission runner flying a ship he can't afford to lose, you fell for an elementary scam (regardless of the functionality of the trade window), and you started a thread on the forums to complain about it. If that's not an old classic I've seen dozens of times before, I don't know what is.

A few years ago, I swear people would've eaten you alive. I think this game is going soft.

Even the smallest amount of research or discussion with seasoned pilots would have prevented you from embarking down that path of disaster. I may be arrogant, but hopefully my hurting of your feelings will help you to remember to do your damned research from now on.

It hasn't been taken care of. You need to get a damned clue about how to survive in this game. The loss or reimbursement of assets is completely beside the point.



Four years ago? Did you actually complete the tutorial?

Stay mad. Get motivated. Then climb in a ship and come shoot me full of humility. I want you to keep playing and to learn the lessons you need to learn along the way.

Fix? I'm not convinced anything's broken.

Exactly, and how do you expect lag to be fixed? It's been a problem ever since Eve first came out and it's been a problem for every multiplayer game that ever exist.

Is that supposed to be a point?

I'm baffled to be honest. Like I said I have played dozens of MMO's and never once seen a community that is so .... blah .... about scamming.

Usually people complain about it, the devs fix the exploit or scamming method and everyone moves along. In this game, you actually have people saying people play EVE just to scam? You do know this is a game right? The money they make in game, from the scamming, has nothing to do with the real world? So why would someone actually start paying for a game just to scam people for no real reason?

That, in essence, is insane. I dunno. I'm mind blown tbh.

I think the people saying this stuff are the scammers themselves. Thats the only logical explanation.

I'm not trying to rag on you or anything but.... How did something worth 95 million ISK to you, end up being your largest asset after four years?

No you're not, or else you wouldn't have spent all your time bumbling around hi-sec.

People are piling on your for ranting that you expect that ripping people off would somehow be ban-able because it's a ridiculous statement from a "vet".

Exploiting is obviously not cool and lag sucks. Not a fan of intentionally obtuse interfaces either.

But scamming is a valid use of one's gameplay time, as is murdering, extorting, stealing, terrorizing, anchoring giant -secure-can dong statues, and just plain blowing crap up.

Not everyone wants to do it, but when people do something constructive it is all the more impressive that they managed to get it done despite all that other nonsense going on.

Check your wallet transactions. (from AGLAIA Thaleia, which is my trade alt).

Everyone eventually gets burned on something. UI is ****. Live and learn.



Live long and prosper