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Sazkyen
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Posted - 2007.08.10 10:16:00 -
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Edited by: Sazkyen on 10/08/2007 10:16:53
How long will EVE last? I'm not predicting nor implying anything here, I'm merely curious on the prospects. Looking at how SWG survived the horrible NGE transformation (and God knows what else since then) I would guess EVE could last pretty long. What do you think?
Edit: not to mention that I haven't heard any upcoming titles comparable to EVE.
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SuperSarge
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.10 10:19:00 -
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I believe they have expansions set into 2009, but my guess is it will continue longer then that... unless they start dropping support for this game when they start with their new mmo that they are making.
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2007.08.10 10:36:00 -
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I think EVE will be like anarchy Online, it will run for years and years and years.
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Hirokishi
Gallente
Nemesis Advanced
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Posted - 2007.08.10 10:40:00 -
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They talked about 10 years in the last fanfest
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franny
Phoenix Knights
Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.10 10:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Death Kill
I think EVE will be like anarchy Online, it will run for years and years and years.
yep
there are diehard fans in almost every mmorpg made, so it might be a lot more spares(like back in the days when 5k was a sunday), but it will be here for a while baring some rl issue
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.10 10:59:00 -
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Due to the fact they're freely updating the game's engine whenever they feel like it, it need never be "ended" by the Devs. They want EVE 2? They can just update EVE 1 to be it!
I think the only way that EVE is going to die is if a purely better game comes out and steals all of EVE's subscribers. No developers are going to keep coding for a game that isn't making them much money.
That or Iceland sinks.
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DarthMopp
Gallente
I.O.S. - I.D.I.O.T.s in outer Space
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Posted - 2007.08.10 11:08:00 -
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Already asking myself why nobody has jumped the "pewpew in space"-Train yet !
As there are gazillions of "Inkypinky-Glitter-Magic-Wand-swinging-Fantasy-Monster-RPGs" but only very very few Space Operas.
Normally it would be like that: "Once there was a succesful Game...which was soon bought by EA-Games...who then produced 1 SpinOff every year".
Well at least i guess CCP created something not so easy to copy...so chances are good that EvE-Online will stay for another 5-6 Years.
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Guilliman R
Gallente
PRO Space Hunters
Federation Of united Corps
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Posted - 2007.08.10 11:09:00 -
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I joined a few months ago in this awsome game, I wan't to see and try out a lot, so I hope it'll run for many many more years ^^
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Carebear for life (unless I am in the advantage and have 99% chance of winning(, hey 1% chance to lose, thats risk right, good!)!
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Tradari
Gallente
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.08.10 11:25:00 -
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eve life is really simple
1 ccp dont lose money and go bankrupt (please dont let that happen its my life dude)
2 people still play (30K+ online every day and not dropping cool)
3 another game very close but better (dont see this happing given the devlopement time put into and still going on!)
Yours
Tradari
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Patricia Bateman
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Posted - 2007.08.10 11:25:00 -
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the culmination of my beliefs regards 'mmo' is that one day an mmo will last forever undergoing countless technological revolultions that incorperate it ever more into our very being. As the world runs out of resources property will become virtualised and no longer bound by objectified function but purely commodified desire. To a lesser extent this is what the brand is to the material, the separation of desire and product.
Eve's single shard universe is ahead of it's time, and the horrible technical problems show it. One day something like the world climate simulator will resemble a computer game.
Will eve die? The death of mmo's has intrested me for a while, with the millions of hours invested in virtual worlds, their decomposition makes for an intresting dilemma...are online worlds alive, do they represent life, do they need humans at the end or could they become autonomous hyper-calculating organisms.
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Zenst
Gallente
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.10 11:28:00 -
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If you can define the limits of the game. Then, and only THEN can you even start to guess at the end.
The only factor which I would like to see is more space, and I mean not just a region; A whole bunch of regions.
Lots of expansion is planned.
Just dont be late with the DX10 gfx update.
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 11:30:00 -
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How long it will run is something that I believe depends more on the players than on the devs.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Zenst
If you can define the limits of the game. Then, and only THEN can you even start to guess at the end.
The only factor which I would like to see is more space, and I mean not just a region; A whole bunch of regions.
Lots of expansion is planned.
Just dont be late with the DX10 gfx update.
I don't think EVE needs more space. There should be limited space. Only limited things are valuable and therefore worth to fight over. If you have too much space and everyone can own enough there will be less reasons for war and this won't be good for the game.
Also it does not improve anything if you fly for half an hour through empty 0.0 space till you see someone in local. Like in SWG where yuo can move through the landscape for an hour till yuo meet someone, makes the game look empty and dead.
I think if the devs keep up caring for the game and don't stop the support, if there are no new mmorgs that are equal to eve but better in some aspects etc. eve can go on quite for a while.
@guy up: it's the devs who are responsible, players come if the devs made a good job, and go if they made a bad one.
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Drizit
Amarr
Lonely out here
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.10 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn
How long it will run is something that I believe depends more on the players than on the devs.
Yea, it depends on how much tolerance to nerfs and bugs the existing players have. With more and more bugs in each new patch that are not being dealt with and wholesale nerfing, tolerance levels are peaking.
No matter how much CCP may deny it, I really think that when their new MMO comes out, more quality time will be spent on that and Eve will soon fall into the region of games labelled 'Unsupported'.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2007.08.10 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Patricia Bateman
Will eve die? The death of mmo's has intrested me for a while, with the millions of hours invested in virtual worlds, their decomposition makes for an intresting dilemma...are online worlds alive, do they represent life, do they need humans at the end or could they become autonomous hyper-calculating organisms.
Somewhere at Blizzard Entertainment server HQ....
The Administrator logs in using his credentials.
The Administrator types some keys to enter the database tool.
The Administrator accidently types CTRL-A instead of CTRL-Z to undo something he just did.
Insisting that he is indeed the cool kid on the block, he goes to press Shift-INSERT (to paste) and instead presses Shift-DELETE (after selecting all).
All X million WoW accounts are deleted in a flicker of a resoultion scan time.
Poof. Your character is no more. Everything you see every day is no more than tables and databases. TEXT. NOTHING MORE.
It sucks. :( I don't want EVE to go away :(
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Darwinia
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.08.10 11:52:00 -
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EVE will defenitiely last until either something better comes along, or CCP diverts resources to something else and lets the game die because lack of support.
Frankly I don't see either happening. EVE is a niche game (full PvP, space genre), which is the reason it will never have milions of subscribers and there are few 'big' software companies that would consider making a game like EVE with only a very limited player base available.
EVE will die to EVE2 and no sooner.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.08.10 11:55:00 -
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As long as it takes for someone to max out all skills, past/present/future, to level V and own every ship in the game, in facto, completing the game.
Then they'll just say "Fine if you like the game THIS bad, keep it!", hand over the servers to "LeetDude157" and go have a big beer fest with the staff 
So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have. |
Nuyan Zahedi
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 11:56:00 -
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I started playing only 4 months ago, but I've the idea that I'll be having an Eve subscription for the next 5 years, I'm sure that I'll have some Eve-breaks every now and then though.
A game like Eve now can last a long-long time and I think that there's a good chance that they'll add even more in the next 3 years than in the past 3 years. There's so much to add, good chance there'll be planetary combat, more than just walking in stations and game-breaking changes in the current game. Next to that the new graphical update will reassure Eve being the best looking MMO out there for a while.
There is always a chance CCP manages to screw up things big time. Same has happened in other MMO's like UO and SWG, that managed to just scare away a huge amount of their fanbases. And I think the current mechanics can be a bit limiting, so they won't be able to keep this game 'up-to-date' forever and one day they'll have to rewrite the whole code and make an Eve 2. So my prediction is that Eve will last until Eve 2 is out, which could be somewhere around 2014. But time will tell. There'll be new MMO's that can suck away Eve's subscribers, but currently I don't see any of the new MMO's doing that unless Jumpgate Evolution is going to surprise everyone.
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Corporal Clue
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Posted - 2007.08.10 12:16:00 -
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Quite a while I'd imagine. CCP is in a good position because their market is small enough that other mmog makers arn't as interested in competing with them for this relatively small number of scribers as they are in for example poaching people from WoW. Unless someone actively want's to break into the EVE niche the game's going to be safe for a good while (although another big mmog in the space genre will be cause for worry), but to my knowledge nothing remarkable like that has been announced. The utter failure that was EnB seems to have put developers off space mmogs.
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2007.08.10 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
I don't think EVE needs more space. There should be limited space. Only limited things are valuable and therefore worth to fight over.
It's only reasonable as they increase the number of system as the playerbase grow. And to say that stuff should be fought over is a bit off imo, because it removes the exploration bit of the game.
Since EVE is a space sim, it should refelct the nature of space...it being huuuuuuuuuuuuge. Today theres people all over, and if we lets say had 15 new regions then we would possibly see empire corporations forming aliances and moving out to 0.0.
This would be a good thing as ythose corporations would experience 0.0 and the existing 0.0 alliances would get new targets.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill
It's only reasonable as they increase the number of system as the playerbase grow. And to say that stuff should be fought over is a bit off imo, because it removes the exploration bit of the game.
Since EVE is a space sim, it should refelct the nature of space...it being huuuuuuuuuuuuge. Today theres people all over, and if we lets say had 15 new regions then we would possibly see empire corporations forming aliances and moving out to 0.0.
This would be a good thing as ythose corporations would experience 0.0 and the existing 0.0 alliances would get new targets.
Those who are willing, prepared and capable of owning 0.0 space already do or try this, those who love to live in the security of highsec empire will not move 0.0 no matter how many new systems. Add more 0.0 will not make Jita empty or something.
And the place is already very huge, 5000+ solar systems ? Check the map for ships currently in space / docked / traffic jumps etc. you'll see theres a lot of space where you hardly see anyone. Makes no sense to create more empty space imho 
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Ur235
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 15:41:00 -
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Whats this new game talk?. Ive completley missed this bit of news, what new game are they/thinking of making?
As for eve as long as possible I hope but what else can they add to the game? You have pretty much got every single ship type thought up now. I cant see ships getting bigger than a Titan.
So what new ships (besides tech 3/4 etc) do you think they could possible come up with?
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MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.08.10 15:43:00 -
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I think EVE will go on for a long long time.
But.
For me at least, the EVE I loved has allready died.
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Maxpie
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2007.08.10 15:48:00 -
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Eve will get noticed and CCP will be bought out by some big company like EA for bucketloads of money. In an attempt to exponentially increase the playerbase, the new company will change some fundamental aspect of Eve, ruining the game. At that point, through marketing it will still gain some players, but fall far short of expectations and be discontinued.
I hope this does not happen for a long, long time.
He put... creatures... in our bodies... to control our minds. He made us... say lies... do things. |
Helox
Gallente
Demonic Retribution
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Somewhere at Blizzard Entertainment server HQ....
The Administrator logs in using his credentials.
The Administrator types some keys to enter the database tool.
The Administrator accidently types CTRL-A instead of CTRL-Z to undo something he just did.
Insisting that he is indeed the cool kid on the block, he goes to press Shift-INSERT (to paste) and instead presses Shift-DELETE (after selecting all).
All X million WoW accounts are deleted in a flicker of a resoultion scan time.
Poof. Your character is no more. Everything you see every day is no more than tables and databases. TEXT. NOTHING MORE.
It sucks. :( I don't want EVE to go away :(
You do understand that there is a little thing called backups right? For a compagny that has all it's income through their DB, offsite backups even.
So mister ubercool gets fired, another DBA restores the backup, and customers get a few hours of downtime. No biggie 
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the above is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect that of the little voices in my head
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WGAnubis Marrith
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.10 16:03:00 -
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My Motto with games is this:
"Enjoy the ride while it lasts, when it gets boring, its time to get off."
So long as the developers understand that to keep their player base they need to constantly add things to it is absolutely key to any MMO's survial. Any company can create a 50 dollar game, release it, and in a year or two drop support of it for a better game. An MMO on the other hand is a major investment in time, money and resources that can be a companies sole bread and butter if they are smart in how they do things.
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JCLawson
UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.08.10 16:04:00 -
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14.3673 years.
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Destiny Calling
Amarr
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.10 16:06:00 -
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Maybe it has been said, but I believe CCP said a few times that Eve shall last as long as people keep playing it, or something along them lines.
I'm just going to keep playing to find out.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.10 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ur235
Whats this new game talk?. Ive completley missed this bit of news, what new game are they/thinking of making?
World Of Darkness MMO, been in the pipeline since they merged with White Wolf. No idea if development has actually started yet though.
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Zak Kingsman
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.08.10 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Those who are willing, prepared and capable of owning 0.0 space already do or try this, those who love to live in the security of highsec empire will not move 0.0 no matter how many new systems. Add more 0.0 will not make Jita empty or something.
And the place is already very huge, 5000+ solar systems ? Check the map for ships currently in space / docked / traffic jumps etc. you'll see theres a lot of space where you hardly see anyone. Makes no sense to create more empty space imho
You're obviously correct, I mean when the drone regions came out they were all taken over by alliances that had already been holding space... oh wait.
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