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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: LordSlay Them
The problem is that even thought most of your pets know that you think of them as complete scum they continue to pay homage.
The solution is that your alliance is unravelling by the day and your pets can see it happening.
No amount of alt BOB posters in this or any other thread can change this and it is not before time.
I'm sure the members of the GBCÖ can tell the difference between forum propaganda designed to instigate insurrection and their day-to-day eve experience. They are in a better poistion to judge their situation than you are, and they are certainly more capable of drawing logical conclusions.
I'm sure many of them read posts like yours and see, as do I, desperation and weakness rather than truth.
So, in that vein, post on. Your attempts to hurt the GBCÖ only hurt those who would hurt them .. or something.
20 goto 10
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: fightnkill GBC is only Loyal to their master, not to each other.
You got it the wrong way around there, alliances are prolly more loyal towards their neighbors then to bob.
Bob <-> Pet = Business Pet <-> Pet = Friends you fly with. -----
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:26:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Possibly, depending on why we where kicked. One of the reasons why a lot of people where happy to see Xelas go was because of all the freaking isk farmers they recruited, they of course did not leave with xelas, theyve got plenty of assets, safes and hidden gsc's to survive now. Its a freaking infestation.
The useful corps from xelas reformed into a new alliance and are now assisting with the war in querious.
I'll have to take your word for it (obviously- I've never been in Xelas, the GBC, or Fountain in general except for pew). But it still seemed remarkably...hostile. I'll tell you, the only thing similar I remember seeing in my EVE time was when KOS withdrew from the LV vs RA war way back when, and LV went all "MURDEROUS TRAITORS!!!!!" on their ass. You usually expect at least -some- lingering respect between allies, even when things end badly.
But anyhow, OOI, what alliance did the ex-Xelas people form? --------
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:26:00 -
[34]
Being someone's pet isn't really a good thing, But being in Even ranks with someone is a good thing.
Red alliance and Goonswarm for instance, none are each other's pet, as a matter of fact, they work with each other, support each other, thus suceeding with each other.
BoB-wise however, Everyone not BoB in GBC is under BoB. They are SLAVES of BoB and will never be at Equal with BoB.
For intelligent people. A) Would they become a Slave for someone? Or B) will they become someone's Comrade and vice versa?
Thus coming to the point why BoB's pets are "Idiots"
The term BoB "Pet" is too light, they're actually BoB Slaves.
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pylons38
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: pylons38 on 11/08/2007 00:28:51 IRON are a joke.
And I'm speaking as an ex-RZR member, who got frustrated with their "allies" (ie. D2 disbanding and IRON going to drone regions while RZR/MM got run over) running away when the going got tough.
Oh and don't forget...IRON are the most elite PVPers in EVE guys!!
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:27:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: fightnkill GBC is only Loyal to their master, not to each other.
You got it the wrong way around there, alliances are prolly more loyal towards their neighbors then to bob.
Bob <-> Pet = Business Pet <-> Pet = Friends you fly with.
Ok, if BoB orders you guys to shoot lets say RISE, will you do it? If you don't, you're defying your master.
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LordSlay Them
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: LordSlay Them on 11/08/2007 00:30:22
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Patch86 Not passing any judgement on whether Xelas deserved the boot or not, what really got me about that was how 100% of the other BoB renters / pets / allies all leapt straight in to the "lololol, you guys sux! good riddance!" routine.
Talk about community spirit. Not a single "it's a shame, good luck in the future!" post. Makes you wonder what'd happen if BoB decided to ditch someone else, like, say, Corelum Syndicate, just for an example (not saying they will). Would they get the same warm response from the GBC?
Possibly, depending on why we where kicked. One of the reasons why a lot of people where happy to see Xelas go was because of all the freaking isk farmers they recruited, they of course did not leave with xelas, theyve got plenty of assets, safes and hidden gsc's to survive now. Its a freaking infestation.
The useful corps from xelas reformed into a new alliance and are now assisting with the war in querious.
To be quite honest your posts are useless, you are a BOB figurehead who follows BOB and any BOB forum posts around like the lapdog that you are.
You obviously have a vested interest in BOB and have never even remotely disagreed with anything they have ever done or posted.
You are a lacky or a BOB alt and nothing you type is worth the space.
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86 I'll have to take your word for it (obviously- I've never been in Xelas, the GBC, or Fountain in general except for pew). But it still seemed remarkably...hostile. I'll tell you, the only thing similar I remember seeing in my EVE time was when KOS withdrew from the LV vs RA war way back when, and LV went all "MURDEROUS TRAITORS!!!!!" on their ass. You usually expect at least -some- lingering respect between allies, even when things end badly.
But anyhow, OOI, what alliance did the ex-Xelas people form?
Hostility towards xelas over their isk farmers and such matters existed well before they where evicted, the unfortunate downside with living within the GBC is that you dont always get input on who your new friends are.
Blade. would be the new alliance they formed. -----
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: fightnkill Being someone's pet isn't really a good thing, But being in Even ranks with someone is a good thing.
Red alliance and Goonswarm for instance, none are each other's pet, as a matter of fact, they work with each other, support each other, thus suceeding with each other.
BoB-wise however, Everyone not BoB in GBC is under BoB. They are SLAVES of BoB and will never be at Equal with BoB.
This would explain why all the members of GS carry hand written invitations from RA to run complexes whenever they want. It must be great to be all equal and stuffs. amirite?
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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LordSlay Them
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: pylons38 Edited by: pylons38 on 11/08/2007 00:28:14 IRON are a joke.
And I'm speaking as an IDIOT, who got frustrated with their "allies" (ie. D2 disbanding and IRON going to drone regions while RZR/MM got run over) running away when the going got tough.
edited that for you
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: LordSlay Them To be quite honest your posts are useless, you are a BOB figurehead who follows BOB and any BOB forum posts around like the lapdog that you are.
Im not a bo figurehead and technically its an iron forum post. I do however enjoy forumwhoring and educating the clueless, which is why im here.
Originally by: LordSlay Them You obviously have a vested interest in BOB and have never even remotely disagreed with anything they have ever done or posted.
Of course i have a vested interest and I'll quite happily disagree with Bob, i strongly dislike some of the pets that where let into the GBC a while back, of course, bob space bob rules, as long as they stay out of my way i cant care too much.
Originally by: LordSlay Them nothing you type is worth more the space.
I should prolly point out that means absolutely nothing coming from you.  -----
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: LordSlay Them
The problem is that even thought most of your pets know that you think of them as complete scum they continue to pay homage.
The solution is that your alliance is unravelling by the day and your pets can see it happening.
No amount of alt BOB posters in this or any other thread can change this and it is not before time.
I'm sure the members of the GBCÖ can tell the difference between forum propaganda designed to instigate insurrection and their day-to-day eve experience. They are in a better poistion to judge their situation than you are, and they are certainly more capable of drawing logical conclusions.
I'm sure many of them read posts like yours and see, as do I, desperation and weakness rather than truth.
So, in that vein, post on. Your attempts to hurt the GBCÖ only hurt those who would hurt them .. or something.
20 goto 10
If anything, BoB itself is Propaganda.
BoB: Hey, welcome to GBC, if you work hard for us, you'll become strong/powerful like us! BoB: Since we're nice, here's a piece of our space! BoB: We'll be even more nicer to you, we'll protect your space from those evil guys out there! *Builds an outpost* BoB: We don't need you, DIE!
BoB controls its pets with propaganda. 
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: LordSlay Them To be quite honest your posts are useless, you are a BOB figurehead who follows BOB and any BOB forum posts around like the lapdog that you are.
You obviously have a vested interest in BOB and have never even remotely disagreed with anything they have ever done or posted.
You are a lacky or a BOB alt and nothing you type is worth the space.
And you are? Right, a washed up northern alliance member who hasn't yet come to terms with the fact that his alliance now claims only a few systems in one of the worst regions in Eve; a member so angered by this fact he must come to the forums to spew anti-GBC drivel in such an incoherent manner that even his best points come right back to bite him in the ass.
In the hierarchy of respect, I'd say that Josh is up a few more rungs on the ladder than you have made yourself out to be.
Hole getting deeper, sir?
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pylons38
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:34:00 -
[44]
Originally by: LordSlay Them
Originally by: pylons38 Edited by: pylons38 on 11/08/2007 00:28:14 IRON are a joke.
And I'm speaking as an IDIOT, who got frustrated with their "allies" (ie. D2 disbanding and IRON going to drone regions while RZR/MM got run over) running away when the going got tough.
edited that for you
OMG!! GRATS!! YOU KNOW HOW TO EDIT A POST!!
Anything else you can do?
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LordSlay Them
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:36:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: LordSlay Them To be quite honest your posts are useless, you are a BOB figurehead who follows BOB and any BOB forum posts around like the lapdog that you are.
Im not a bo figurehead and technically its an iron forum post. I do however enjoy forumwhoring and educating the clueless, which is why im here.
Originally by: LordSlay Them You obviously have a vested interest in BOB and have never even remotely disagreed with anything they have ever done or posted.
Of course i have a vested interest and I'll quite happily disagree with Bob, i strongly dislike some of the pets that where let into the GBC a while back, of course, bob space bob rules, as long as they stay out of my way i cant care too much.
Originally by: LordSlay Them nothing you type is worth more the space.
I should prolly point out that means absolutely nothing coming from you. 
hehe you're a cute one and that's the truth.
No insults and no personal attacks just a calm plain speaking type of BOB logic.
So, care to share with us which BOB pets you disagreed with being let into the GBC (a while back)?
Are any of them still there ?
What are these other disagreements you have with BOB policy?
Or is it as I said, a smokescreen to hide yet another BOB shopfront...
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Death Priest
Stronghold corp Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: Death Priest on 11/08/2007 00:39:02 Edited by: Death Priest on 11/08/2007 00:38:02
Originally by: Righteous Fury
Originally by: LordSlay Them To be quite honest your posts are useless, you are a BOB figurehead who follows BOB and any BOB forum posts around like the lapdog that you are.
You obviously have a vested interest in BOB and have never even remotely disagreed with anything they have ever done or posted.
You are a lacky or a BOB alt and nothing you type is worth the space.
And you are? Right, a washed up northern alliance member who hasn't yet come to terms with the fact that his alliance now claims only a few systems in one of the worst regions in Eve; a member so angered by this fact he must come to the forums to spew anti-GBC drivel in such an incoherent manner that even his best points come right back to bite him in the ass.
In the hierarchy of respect, I'd say that Josh is up a few more rungs on the ladder than you have made yourself out to be.
Hole getting deeper, sir?
Brave talk coming from a Player who has had the Luxury of hiding under BOB's skirts for the past few years. Rumor was back then that you are just another account of a active BOB member anyways.. but I don't hold with rumors that much..
You are a great Fighter/Player (respect)and we have locked horns before so just to let you know this wasn't meant as a smack reply Do you Really Believe Exuro Mortis would still be around in EVE without BOB's protection?
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: fightnkill on 11/08/2007 00:40:28
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: fightnkill Being someone's pet isn't really a good thing, But being in Even ranks with someone is a good thing.
Red alliance and Goonswarm for instance, none are each other's pet, as a matter of fact, they work with each other, support each other, thus suceeding with each other.
BoB-wise however, Everyone not BoB in GBC is under BoB. They are SLAVES of BoB and will never be at Equal with BoB.
This would explain why all the members of GS carry hand written invitations from RA to run complexes whenever they want. It must be great to be all equal and stuffs. amirite?
Goonswarm started with little before they teamed up with RA, now look at them , they're pretty much a superpower.
Unlike BoB slaves, Goonswarm/Red Alliance have their own Soveignty, their own outposts, and nobody is enslaving them.
Everyone in GBC must fight for the interest of BoB's. While it is quiet different in RSF.
RSF is a true alliance, GBC is a slave alliance.
One thing that GBC has in common is that they're all slaves.  At least they should be proud of being BoB's slave. Isn't it glorious to fight and die for your master? 
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ForumPosterAlt
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:38:00 -
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NONONO GOTO STATEMENTS = NOOOO 
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Chucky
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:40:00 -
[49]
Actually Bob's "rent" is cheaper then what we had to pay ASCN in "dues"
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LordSlay Them
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:41:00 -
[50]
Originally by: pylons38
Originally by: LordSlay Them
Originally by: pylons38 Edited by: pylons38 on 11/08/2007 00:28:14 IRON are a joke.
And I'm speaking as an IDIOT, who got frustrated with their "allies" (ie. D2 disbanding and IRON going to drone regions while RZR/MM got run over) running away when the going got tough.
edited that for you
OMG!! GRATS!! YOU KNOW HOW TO EDIT A POST!!
Anything else you can do?
Yes
I can stay with my alliance, through the good times and the hard times.
Unlike you.....
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky Actually Bob's "rent" is cheaper then what we had to pay ASCN in "dues"
I'll talk to Dianabolic about that, I'm sure we can put the rent up.

The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: LordSlay Them hehe you're a cute one and that's the truth.
Yes i am. 
Originally by: LordSlay Them So, care to share with us which BOB pets you disagreed with being let into the GBC (a while back)?
Are any of them still there ?
They're still there, thats one of the perks if you want to shelve out a few bill a month for carebearing turf, their name however will remain private for now.
Originally by: LordSlay Them What are these other disagreements you have with BOB policy?
Or is it as I said, a smokescreen to hide yet another BOB shopfront...
Id like to rat in the chimera constellation but Dian wont let me, its rented out. Other then that we can do whatever we want really. -----
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky Actually Bob's "rent" is cheaper then what we had to pay ASCN in "dues"
Wouldn't it be better to NOT pay your rent at all?
If anything, BoB should be ones paying rents to their pets protecting their space.
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:49:00 -
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Edited by: Johnny ReeRee on 11/08/2007 00:51:13 Man, it's always hilarious when a third-rate chump outfit like IRON (I Run at ONce?) starts pointless smack threads like this. Could IRON have collapsed any more pathetically? Still huddling in npc stations?
Mauled by FIX, outfought by FLA, embarrassed in general -- honestly, shouldn't IRON just lay low for a while, maybe win a few fights, before throwing around all the smack?
On the other hand, keep it up. It's just hilarious when the D2 pet starts smacking BoB pets. I mean -- D2. 
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: fightnkill GBC is only Loyal to their master, not to each other.
You got it the wrong way around there, alliances are prolly more loyal towards their neighbors then to bob.
Bob <-> Pet = Business Pet <-> Pet = Friends you fly with.
Yeah, BoB is getting a great deal on this business Their pets pay rent to them, and Their pets become BoB's meatshields.
and for what, A little piece of space they give you? :P You know, you can have you own space WITHOUT paying rents and WITHOUT becoming BoB's meatshield.
Be your own boss?
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LordSlay Them
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
Originally by: Death Priest Brave talk coming from a Player who has had the Luxury of hiding under BOB's skirts for the past few years. Rumor was back then that you are just another account of a active BOB member anyways.. but I don't hold with rumors that much..
You are a great Fighter/Player (respect)and we have locked horns before so just to let you know this wasn't meant as a smack reply Do you Really Believe Exuro Mortis would still be around in EVE without BOB's protection?
We would undoubtedly still survive. Would we have free stations? Perhaps not, but you're seriously misguided in your beliefs thinking that we in any way, shape or form hide under BoB's skirt.
We have been a PVP corp for three years, and Fountain residents for less than three months. Prior to Fountain, we had no specific living arrangement with Bob. Yes, we used and defended Delve as a carebearing ground and spend a good deal of time there, but that did not prevent us from following our lust for war elsewhere, as I'm sure many empire and Providence residents can attest to.
What you see as "protection" is rather a mutually beneficial arrangement. Not once has BoB come to our aid during an empire war or in a conflict that wasn't part of Delve's defense - so where exactly do you justify them being our protectors?
They aren't your protectors.
You will find that out in due course and if you have the wherewithall to realise that in time maybe you an others will be able to retain a 0.0 home.
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: fightnkill
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: fightnkill GBC is only Loyal to their master, not to each other.
You got it the wrong way around there, alliances are prolly more loyal towards their neighbors then to bob.
Bob <-> Pet = Business Pet <-> Pet = Friends you fly with.
Yeah, BoB is getting a great deal on this business Their pets pay rent to them, and Their pets become BoB's meatshields.
and for what, A little piece of space they give you? :P You know, you can have you own space WITHOUT paying rents and WITHOUT becoming BoB's meatshield.
Be your own boss?
Linkage -----
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Johnny ReeRee Edited by: Johnny ReeRee on 11/08/2007 00:51:13 Man, it's always hilarious when a third-rate chump outfit like IRON (I Run at ONce?) starts pointless smack threads like this. Could IRON have collapsed any more pathetically? Still huddling in npc stations?
Mauled by FIX, outfought by FLA, embarrassed in general -- honestly, shouldn't IRON just lay low for a while, maybe win a few fights, before throwing around all the smack?
On the other hand, keep it up. It's just hilarious when the D2 pet starts smacking BoB pets. I mean -- D2. 
And what gives you from a no-namer corp/alliance to say that to IRON?
Maybe you should become as big as Iron to even say those things? :P
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Chucky
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: fightnkill
Originally by: Chucky Actually Bob's "rent" is cheaper then what we had to pay ASCN in "dues"
Wouldn't it be better to NOT pay your rent at all?
If anything, BoB should be ones paying rents to their pets protecting their space.
Protecting our rented space from the goons that are supposedly attacking Bob? Explain to me were is this 0.0 that doesn't need protecting?
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.11 00:55:00 -
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I'd like to hear from some Southern Connection types about treatment as a bob pet.
Specifically I'd like to hear-
A. How much you paid a month.
B. How you were treated.
C. What your future is with them.
Obviously yes I know the answer to all three questions and I'm not doing this to drag Soco through the mud, in fact quite the opposite. They seem like some rather stand up gentlemen but the way they are being treated is rather laffo.
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