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Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers
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Posted - 2012.01.14 04:04:00 -
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TORtanic Movie Trailer
wrote:THE HOLE IS A FEATURE, AND I'M HAVING FUN WITH IT
Get ready. The free month is up in a few days. Some will probably try and jump ship here. |

VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.14 04:28:00 -
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Video was crappy, and I don't think it's going to die quite THAT fast lol.
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Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers
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Posted - 2012.01.14 04:30:00 -
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VKhaun Vex wrote:Video was crappy, and I don't think it's going to die quite THAT fast lol.
Check the statistics. They lost half of their population in a month. The water is rushing in and fast. |

VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.14 04:38:00 -
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Tiberius Sunstealer wrote:VKhaun Vex wrote:Video was crappy, and I don't think it's going to die quite THAT fast lol.
Check the statistics. They lost half of their population in a month. The water is rushing in and fast.
Okay... checking...
http://www.swtorarena.com/backend/applications_addon/other/statistics/db/population/overall-monthly-big.png
Nope, haven't lost half their population in a month.
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Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers
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Posted - 2012.01.14 04:42:00 -
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Sorry. I meant a few months.  |

VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.14 04:47:00 -
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Tiberius Sunstealer wrote:Sorry. I meant a few months. 
It hasn't even been out a month yet... it released Dec 20th, and it's only Jan 13th. The only population loss it has seen is when we went from holidays back to work. |

Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble.
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Posted - 2012.01.14 04:49:00 -
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VKhaun Vex wrote:Video was crappy, and I don't think it's going to die quite THAT fast lol.
Hnnnnnng my feelings. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware. |

Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers
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Posted - 2012.01.14 04:56:00 -
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VKhaun Vex wrote:It hasn't even been out a month yet... it released Dec 20th, and it's only Jan 13th. The only population loss it has seen is when we went from holidays back to work. Oh? I thought it has been out 2 months. I guess that's what you get when you're in a country and EA says "U WANT GAME? END OF RINE.".
Well they've had peaks of 800,000 and are now down to 400,000. That's a big drop. And the numbers are only going to get lower when the free month is up. |

VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.14 05:06:00 -
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Tiberius Sunstealer wrote:VKhaun Vex wrote:It hasn't even been out a month yet... it released Dec 20th, and it's only Jan 13th. The only population loss it has seen is when we went from holidays back to work. Oh? I thought it has been out 2 months. I guess that's what you get when you're in a country and EA says "U WANT GAME? END OF RINE.". Well they've had peaks of 800,000 and are now down to 400,000. That's a big drop. And the numbers are only going to get lower when the free month is up.
Yes I suppose if you exaggerate the launch day peak, and compare it to the work day average weeks later they have most certainly lost half their population. But I digress. I'm not a fan of the game and I have mixed feelings about letting my friend talk me into getting it. I'm not going to defend it any more. |

leviticus ander
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.14 08:35:00 -
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when I was watching the video I was wondering if they had pulled a star trek online. hyped it up forever, then made a massive flop that might hang on for a few months to a year before going F2P. |

Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble.
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Posted - 2012.01.14 08:37:00 -
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VKhaun Vex wrote:Tiberius Sunstealer wrote:VKhaun Vex wrote:It hasn't even been out a month yet... it released Dec 20th, and it's only Jan 13th. The only population loss it has seen is when we went from holidays back to work. Oh? I thought it has been out 2 months. I guess that's what you get when you're in a country and EA says "U WANT GAME? END OF RINE.". Well they've had peaks of 800,000 and are now down to 400,000. That's a big drop. And the numbers are only going to get lower when the free month is up. Yes I suppose if you exaggerate the launch day peak, and compare it to the work day average weeks later they have most certainly lost half their population.  But I digress. I'm not a fan of the game and I have mixed feelings about letting my friend talk me into getting it. I'm not going to defend it any more.
YOU INSULT GRORIOUS DEVEREOPER? THAT IS SHAMEFUR DISPRAY AND YOU ARE NAST TROR. DING DONG BANNU. END OF RINE. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware. |

Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers
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Posted - 2012.01.14 10:40:00 -
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leviticus ander wrote:when I was watching the video I was wondering if they had pulled a star trek online. hyped it up forever, then made a massive flop that might hang on for a few months to a year before going F2P. Yes. That is exactly what they did plus blow their whole budget on voice acting and not a single dollar went towards not making a WoW clone.
Lord Mandelor wrote:YOU INSULT GRORIOUS DEVEREOPER? THAT IS SHAMEFUR DISPRAY AND YOU ARE NAST TROR. DING DONG BANNU. END OF RINE. YOU IMPERSONATE GRORIOUS MODERATOR? DING DONG BANNU YOU INSULT GRORIOUS DEVEROPER? DOUBLE DING DONG BANNU SHAMFUR DISPRAY RINE ENDS HERE |

leviticus ander
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.14 10:59:00 -
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Tiberius Sunstealer wrote:leviticus ander wrote:when I was watching the video I was wondering if they had pulled a star trek online. hyped it up forever, then made a massive flop that might hang on for a few months to a year before going F2P. Yes. That is exactly what they did plus blow their whole budget on voice acting and not a single dollar went towards not making a WoW clone. ya, I called it on being a WOW clone as soon as I saw the first game play video they released about a year and a bit before it came out. |

Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers
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Posted - 2012.01.14 11:21:00 -
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leviticus ander wrote:ya, I called it on being a WOW clone as soon as I saw the first game play video they released about a year and a bit before it came out. Well you called it right. |

Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2012.01.14 11:42:00 -
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Tiberius Sunstealer wrote:leviticus ander wrote:when I was watching the video I was wondering if they had pulled a star trek online. hyped it up forever, then made a massive flop that might hang on for a few months to a year before going F2P. Yes. That is exactly what they did plus blow their whole budget on voice acting and not a single dollar went towards not making a WoW clone.
but that's how MMORPG's are done today.
you grab WoW, strip it till the bare bones and slap multi-billion dollar artistic content.
**** gamplay! WE WANT PEOPLE TALKING! [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers
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Posted - 2012.01.14 11:48:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:[but that's how MMORPG's are done today.
you grab WoW, strip it till the bare bones and slap multi-billion dollar artistic content.
**** gamplay! WE WANT PEOPLE TALKING! Content is not a word Bioware nor EA have in their vocabulary. |

Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2012.01.14 12:04:00 -
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Tiberius Sunstealer wrote:Grimpak wrote:[but that's how MMORPG's are done today.
you grab WoW, strip it till the bare bones and slap multi-billion dollar artistic content.
**** gamplay! WE WANT PEOPLE TALKING! Content is not a word Bioware nor EA have in their vocabulary. now now, to be totally fair, Bioware did do some good games. ME1 was awesome and DA:O too. The decline started with ME2 wich, while still good, it wasn't that good, and then the relative flop that was DA2 was the continuation of that.
then TOR came and there it is.
it must be said too, that Bioware wasn't a "vanguard" developer too. Their games never were shiny beacons of originality, but they do make some excellent storytelling.
problem about storytelling is, it works awesome when applied to single playing games, but it doesn't work at all when you go multiplayer.; and when applied to game development cycles, you need quite some time dedicated to it so that it comes out fresh. you don't demand, nor it's possible for, a storyteller to come up with new stories every day.
EA however, I agree with you, and the recent "Origin" thing makes me cringe even more [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers
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Posted - 2012.01.14 12:08:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:problem about storytelling is, it works awesome when applied to single playing games Then it should've worked in SW:TOR.  |

Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2012.01.14 13:50:00 -
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Tiberius Sunstealer wrote:Grimpak wrote:problem about storytelling is, it works awesome when applied to single playing games Then it should've worked in SW:TOR.  I saw what you did there [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.14 20:26:00 -
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Now the uploader is trying to imply something here....
Quote:The RMS Eve Online hasn++ already been dispatched,n++ however, I fear they may be too late as the radio operator was asleep when cries for help came. |

Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble.
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Posted - 2012.01.14 21:08:00 -
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Keras Authion wrote:Now the uploader is trying to imply something here.... Quote:The RMS Eve Online hasn++ already been dispatched,n++ however, I fear they may be too late as the radio operator was asleep when cries for help came.
Like what? ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware. |

Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble.
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Posted - 2012.01.19 03:53:00 -
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The ship has sunk.
Brace for new EVE players. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware. |

Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers
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Posted - 2012.01.19 03:57:00 -
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At least CCP allows you to cancel your subscription and doesn't make the button magically disappear...twice (SW:TOR and WAR). |

Lord Mandelor
Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble.
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Posted - 2012.01.19 04:34:00 -
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Tiberius Sunstealer wrote:At least CCP allows you to cancel your subscription and doesn't make the button magically disappear...twice (SW:TOR and WAR).
I feel like we both might be from somewhere that never talks about video games. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware. |

Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers
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Posted - 2012.01.19 05:42:00 -
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Lord Mandelor wrote:I feel like we both might be from somewhere that never talks about video games. I'm pretty sure we both are but i've got to ask you one question to be sure: Do you like video games? |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.19 06:25:00 -
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SWTOR will lose lots of subs in the first few months once but people will come back every 6 months, a year, or maybe more to play the new content. |

Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers
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Posted - 2012.01.19 06:39:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:SWTOR will lose lots of subs in the first few months once but people will come back every 6 months, a year, or maybe more to play the new content. This isn't WoW. It will probably be dead within a year. |

stoicfaux
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Posted - 2012.01.19 14:19:00 -
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Ok, SW:TOR is now officially showing weakness. I just got this email allowing me to become a "Founder." (I was in the Beta and did *not* buy the game, so why would I be a founder?)
Quote: Thank you for helping to make Star WarsGäó: The Old RepublicGäó one of the most successful MMO launches to date. For a limited time only, to honor our first players, we will be granting the exclusive "Founder" title to qualifying accounts*, which will apply to all of your in-game characters. This title will not be available to any new players after 3/18/2012.
Founder FAQ/Process: http://www.swtor.com/info/founders?sourceid=eag3393
edit: Ouch. Looks like they want to get a 2nd month out you too before giving you the Founder title.
Quote: Once you become eligible for the title and have surpassed your 30 days of game time included with your official Game Product Registration Code, you will be notified by email.
You can tell me what is and isn't true when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.01.19 14:58:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Ok, SW:TOR is now officially showing weakness. I just got this email allowing me to become a "Founder." (I was in the Beta and did *not* buy the game, so why would I be a founder?) Quote: Thank you for helping to make Star WarsGäó: The Old RepublicGäó one of the most successful MMO launches to date. For a limited time only, to honor our first players, we will be granting the exclusive "Founder" title to qualifying accounts*, which will apply to all of your in-game characters. This title will not be available to any new players after 3/18/2012.
Founder FAQ/Process: http://www.swtor.com/info/founders?sourceid=eag3393edit: Ouch. Looks like they want to get a 2nd month out you too before giving you the Founder title. Quote: Once you become eligible for the title and have surpassed your 30 days of game time included with your official Game Product Registration Code, you will be notified by email.
Such attempts were to be expected though and will even be celebrated by the fanboys and marketing talk illiterate. I've followed a decent amount of MMO launches and every one of them have plans to get people to sub for additional months. Timing patches right before subs end, so people see fixes are being made and new content added(Backfired for TOR). They can also intentionally withold content from launch and put it in a content patch later on, so they can give the impression, that they can deliver high quality content quickly and make it easier for people to sub for another month. I see it more as prudent planning than anything else at least from the company's point of view, but if they don't deliver people can, rightly so, feel angry about being manipulated. |

stoicfaux
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Posted - 2012.01.19 16:49:00 -
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Double ouch: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ea-falls-on-broker-concerns-about-star-wars-2012-01-19?siteid=yhoof2
Quote: SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Shares of Electronic Arts Inc. fell nearly 3% to $17.75 on Thursday morning after an analyst with Brean Murray Carret & Co. cut his price target on the stock to $22 from $28, citing concerns about the recently released online multi-player game "Star Wars: The Old Republic." In a note to clients, analyst Todd Mitchell wrote that "creeping concerns" about the performance of "Star Wars" -- which was released in late December -- is causing him to trim his earnings estimates for the 2013 fiscal year. "Specifically, initial sales appear to be below expectations, and casual observation of early play is causing us to rethink our churn assumptions," Mitchell wrote.
Odd, given that the game shattered previous mmo sale records. OTOH, it sounds like churn could be a significant problem given how quickly people are hitting the level cap and the purported lackluster end game content.
You can tell me what is and isn't true when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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