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Tiberius Sunstealer Phantom Soulreavers 47	Posted - 2012.01.14 04:04:00 - [1] - Quote TORtanic Movie Trailer wrote: THE HOLE IS A FEATURE, AND I'M HAVING FUN WITH IT Get ready. The free month is up in a few days. Some will probably try and jump ship here.
VKhaun Vex Viziam Amarr Empire 274	Posted - 2012.01.14 04:28:00 - [2] - Quote Video was crappy, and I don't think it's going to die quite THAT fast lol.
Tiberius Sunstealer Phantom Soulreavers 47	Posted - 2012.01.14 04:30:00 - [3] - Quote VKhaun Vex wrote: Video was crappy, and I don't think it's going to die quite THAT fast lol. Check the statistics. They lost half of their population in a month. The water is rushing in and fast.
VKhaun Vex Viziam Amarr Empire 274	Posted - 2012.01.14 04:38:00 - [4] - Quote Tiberius Sunstealer wrote: VKhaun Vex wrote: Video was crappy, and I don't think it's going to die quite THAT fast lol. Check the statistics. They lost half of their population in a month. The water is rushing in and fast. Okay... checking... http://www.swtorarena.com/backend/applications_addon/other/statistics/db/population/overall-monthly-big.png Nope, haven't lost half their population in a month.
Tiberius Sunstealer Phantom Soulreavers 47	Posted - 2012.01.14 04:42:00 - [5] - Quote VKhaun Vex wrote: Okay... checking... http://www.swtorarena.com/backend/applications_addon/other/statistics/db/population/overall-monthly-big.png Nope, haven't lost half their population in a month. Sorry. I meant a few months.
VKhaun Vex Viziam Amarr Empire 274	Posted - 2012.01.14 04:47:00 - [6] - Quote Tiberius Sunstealer wrote: VKhaun Vex wrote: Okay... checking... http://www.swtorarena.com/backend/applications_addon/other/statistics/db/population/overall-monthly-big.png Nope, haven't lost half their population in a month. Sorry. I meant a few months. It hasn't even been out a month yet... it released Dec 20th, and it's only Jan 13th. The only population loss it has seen is when we went from holidays back to work.
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 103	Posted - 2012.01.14 04:49:00 - [7] - Quote VKhaun Vex wrote: Video was crappy, and I don't think it's going to die quite THAT fast lol. Hnnnnnng my feelings. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
Tiberius Sunstealer Phantom Soulreavers 47	Posted - 2012.01.14 04:56:00 - [8] - Quote VKhaun Vex wrote: It hasn't even been out a month yet... it released Dec 20th, and it's only Jan 13th. The only population loss it has seen is when we went from holidays back to work. Oh? I thought it has been out 2 months. I guess that's what you get when you're in a country and EA says "U WANT GAME? END OF RINE.". Well they've had peaks of 800,000 and are now down to 400,000. That's a big drop. And the numbers are only going to get lower when the free month is up.
VKhaun Vex Viziam Amarr Empire 274	Posted - 2012.01.14 05:06:00 - [9] - Quote Tiberius Sunstealer wrote: VKhaun Vex wrote: It hasn't even been out a month yet... it released Dec 20th, and it's only Jan 13th. The only population loss it has seen is when we went from holidays back to work. Oh? I thought it has been out 2 months. I guess that's what you get when you're in a country and EA says "U WANT GAME? END OF RINE.". Well they've had peaks of 800,000 and are now down to 400,000. That's a big drop. And the numbers are only going to get lower when the free month is up. Yes I suppose if you exaggerate the launch day peak, and compare it to the work day average weeks later they have most certainly lost half their population. But I digress. I'm not a fan of the game and I have mixed feelings about letting my friend talk me into getting it. I'm not going to defend it any more.
leviticus ander The Scope Gallente Federation 121	Posted - 2012.01.14 08:35:00 - [10] - Quote when I was watching the video I was wondering if they had pulled a star trek online. hyped it up forever, then made a massive flop that might hang on for a few months to a year before going F2P.
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 103	Posted - 2012.01.14 08:37:00 - [11] - Quote VKhaun Vex wrote: Tiberius Sunstealer wrote: VKhaun Vex wrote: It hasn't even been out a month yet... it released Dec 20th, and it's only Jan 13th. The only population loss it has seen is when we went from holidays back to work. Oh? I thought it has been out 2 months. I guess that's what you get when you're in a country and EA says "U WANT GAME? END OF RINE.". Well they've had peaks of 800,000 and are now down to 400,000. That's a big drop. And the numbers are only going to get lower when the free month is up. Yes I suppose if you exaggerate the launch day peak, and compare it to the work day average weeks later they have most certainly lost half their population. But I digress. I'm not a fan of the game and I have mixed feelings about letting my friend talk me into getting it. I'm not going to defend it any more. YOU INSULT GRORIOUS DEVEREOPER? THAT IS SHAMEFUR DISPRAY AND YOU ARE NAST TROR. DING DONG BANNU. END OF RINE. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
Tiberius Sunstealer Phantom Soulreavers 47	Posted - 2012.01.14 10:40:00 - [12] - Quote leviticus ander wrote: when I was watching the video I was wondering if they had pulled a star trek online. hyped it up forever, then made a massive flop that might hang on for a few months to a year before going F2P. Yes. That is exactly what they did plus blow their whole budget on voice acting and not a single dollar went towards not making a WoW clone. Lord Mandelor wrote: YOU INSULT GRORIOUS DEVEREOPER? THAT IS SHAMEFUR DISPRAY AND YOU ARE NAST TROR. DING DONG BANNU. END OF RINE. YOU IMPERSONATE GRORIOUS MODERATOR? DING DONG BANNU YOU INSULT GRORIOUS DEVEROPER? DOUBLE DING DONG BANNU SHAMFUR DISPRAY RINE ENDS HERE
leviticus ander The Scope Gallente Federation 121	Posted - 2012.01.14 10:59:00 - [13] - Quote Tiberius Sunstealer wrote: leviticus ander wrote: when I was watching the video I was wondering if they had pulled a star trek online. hyped it up forever, then made a massive flop that might hang on for a few months to a year before going F2P. Yes. That is exactly what they did plus blow their whole budget on voice acting and not a single dollar went towards not making a WoW clone. ya, I called it on being a WOW clone as soon as I saw the first game play video they released about a year and a bit before it came out.
Tiberius Sunstealer Phantom Soulreavers 47	Posted - 2012.01.14 11:21:00 - [14] - Quote leviticus ander wrote: ya, I called it on being a WOW clone as soon as I saw the first game play video they released about a year and a bit before it came out. Well you called it right.
Grimpak Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 357	Posted - 2012.01.14 11:42:00 - [15] - Quote Tiberius Sunstealer wrote: leviticus ander wrote: when I was watching the video I was wondering if they had pulled a star trek online. hyped it up forever, then made a massive flop that might hang on for a few months to a year before going F2P. Yes. That is exactly what they did plus blow their whole budget on voice acting and not a single dollar went towards not making a WoW clone. but that's how MMORPG's are done today. you grab WoW, strip it till the bare bones and slap multi-billion dollar artistic content. **** gamplay! WE WANT PEOPLE TALKING! [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Tiberius Sunstealer Phantom Soulreavers 47	Posted - 2012.01.14 11:48:00 - [16] - Quote Grimpak wrote: [but that's how MMORPG's are done today. you grab WoW, strip it till the bare bones and slap multi-billion dollar artistic content. **** gamplay! WE WANT PEOPLE TALKING! Content is not a word Bioware nor EA have in their vocabulary.
Grimpak Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 357	Posted - 2012.01.14 12:04:00 - [17] - Quote Tiberius Sunstealer wrote: Grimpak wrote: [but that's how MMORPG's are done today. you grab WoW, strip it till the bare bones and slap multi-billion dollar artistic content. **** gamplay! WE WANT PEOPLE TALKING! Content is not a word Bioware nor EA have in their vocabulary. now now, to be totally fair, Bioware did do some good games. ME1 was awesome and DA:O too. The decline started with ME2 wich, while still good, it wasn't that good, and then the relative flop that was DA2 was the continuation of that. then TOR came and there it is. it must be said too, that Bioware wasn't a "vanguard" developer too. Their games never were shiny beacons of originality, but they do make some excellent storytelling. problem about storytelling is, it works awesome when applied to single playing games, but it doesn't work at all when you go multiplayer.; and when applied to game development cycles, you need quite some time dedicated to it so that it comes out fresh. you don't demand, nor it's possible for, a storyteller to come up with new stories every day. EA however, I agree with you, and the recent "Origin" thing makes me cringe even more [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Tiberius Sunstealer Phantom Soulreavers 47	Posted - 2012.01.14 12:08:00 - [18] - Quote Grimpak wrote: problem about storytelling is, it works awesome when applied to single playing games Then it should've worked in SW:TOR.
Grimpak Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 357	Posted - 2012.01.14 13:50:00 - [19] - Quote Tiberius Sunstealer wrote: Grimpak wrote: problem about storytelling is, it works awesome when applied to single playing games Then it should've worked in SW:TOR. I saw what you did there [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Keras Authion Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 42	Posted - 2012.01.14 20:26:00 - [20] - Quote Now the uploader is trying to imply something here.... Quote: The RMS Eve Online hasn++ already been dispatched,n++ however, I fear they may be too late as the radio operator was asleep when cries for help came.
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 104	Posted - 2012.01.14 21:08:00 - [21] - Quote Keras Authion wrote: Now the uploader is trying to imply something here.... Quote: The RMS Eve Online hasn++ already been dispatched,n++ however, I fear they may be too late as the radio operator was asleep when cries for help came. Like what? ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 104	Posted - 2012.01.19 03:53:00 - [22] - Quote The ship has sunk. Brace for new EVE players. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
Tiberius Sunstealer Phantom Soulreavers 64	Posted - 2012.01.19 03:57:00 - [23] - Quote Lord Mandelor wrote: The ship has sunk. Brace for new EVE players. At least CCP allows you to cancel your subscription and doesn't make the button magically disappear...twice (SW:TOR and WAR).
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 104	Posted - 2012.01.19 04:34:00 - [24] - Quote Tiberius Sunstealer wrote: Lord Mandelor wrote: The ship has sunk. Brace for new EVE players. At least CCP allows you to cancel your subscription and doesn't make the button magically disappear...twice (SW:TOR and WAR). I feel like we both might be from somewhere that never talks about video games. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
Tiberius Sunstealer Phantom Soulreavers 64	Posted - 2012.01.19 05:42:00 - [25] - Quote Lord Mandelor wrote: I feel like we both might be from somewhere that never talks about video games. I'm pretty sure we both are but i've got to ask you one question to be sure: Do you like video games?
Herping yourDerp Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 377	Posted - 2012.01.19 06:25:00 - [26] - Quote SWTOR will lose lots of subs in the first few months once but people will come back every 6 months, a year, or maybe more to play the new content.
Tiberius Sunstealer Phantom Soulreavers 64	Posted - 2012.01.19 06:39:00 - [27] - Quote Herping yourDerp wrote: SWTOR will lose lots of subs in the first few months once but people will come back every 6 months, a year, or maybe more to play the new content. This isn't WoW. It will probably be dead within a year.
stoicfaux 656	Posted - 2012.01.19 14:19:00 - [28] - Quote Ok, SW:TOR is now officially showing weakness. I just got this email allowing me to become a "Founder." (I was in the Beta and did not buy the game, so why would I be a founder?) Quote: Thank you for helping to make Star WarsGäó: The Old RepublicGäó one of the most successful MMO launches to date. For a limited time only, to honor our first players, we will be granting the exclusive "Founder" title to qualifying accounts, which will apply to all of your in-game characters. This title will not be available to any new players after 3/18/2012. Founder FAQ/Process: http://www.swtor.com/info/founders?sourceid=eag3393 edit: Ouch. Looks like they want to get a 2nd month out you too before giving you the Founder title. Quote:* Once you become eligible for the title and have surpassed your 30 days of game time included with your official Game Product Registration Code, you will be notified by email. You can tell me what is and isn't true when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 1734	Posted - 2012.01.19 14:58:00 - [29] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Ok, SW:TOR is now officially showing weakness. I just got this email allowing me to become a "Founder." (I was in the Beta and did not buy the game, so why would I be a founder?) Quote: Thank you for helping to make Star WarsGäó: The Old RepublicGäó one of the most successful MMO launches to date. For a limited time only, to honor our first players, we will be granting the exclusive "Founder" title to qualifying accounts, which will apply to all of your in-game characters. This title will not be available to any new players after 3/18/2012. Founder FAQ/Process: http://www.swtor.com/info/founders?sourceid=eag3393 edit: Ouch. Looks like they want to get a 2nd month out you too before giving you the Founder title. Quote:* Once you become eligible for the title and have surpassed your 30 days of game time included with your official Game Product Registration Code, you will be notified by email. Such attempts were to be expected though and will even be celebrated by the fanboys and marketing talk illiterate. I've followed a decent amount of MMO launches and every one of them have plans to get people to sub for additional months. Timing patches right before subs end, so people see fixes are being made and new content added(Backfired for TOR). They can also intentionally withold content from launch and put it in a content patch later on, so they can give the impression, that they can deliver high quality content quickly and make it easier for people to sub for another month. I see it more as prudent planning than anything else at least from the company's point of view, but if they don't deliver people can, rightly so, feel angry about being manipulated.
stoicfaux 656	Posted - 2012.01.19 16:49:00 - [30] - Quote Double ouch: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ea-falls-on-broker-concerns-about-star-wars-2012-01-19?siteid=yhoof2 Quote: SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Shares of Electronic Arts Inc. fell nearly 3% to $17.75 on Thursday morning after an analyst with Brean Murray Carret & Co. cut his price target on the stock to $22 from $28, citing concerns about the recently released online multi-player game "Star Wars: The Old Republic." In a note to clients, analyst Todd Mitchell wrote that "creeping concerns" about the performance of "Star Wars" -- which was released in late December -- is causing him to trim his earnings estimates for the 2013 fiscal year. "Specifically, initial sales appear to be below expectations, and casual observation of early play is causing us to rethink our churn assumptions," Mitchell wrote. Odd, given that the game shattered previous mmo sale records. OTOH, it sounds like churn could be a significant problem given how quickly people are hitting the level cap and the purported lackluster end game content. You can tell me what is and isn't true when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 105	Posted - 2012.01.19 23:08:00 - [31] - Quote Tiberius Sunstealer wrote: Lord Mandelor wrote: I feel like we both might be from somewhere that never talks about video games. I'm pretty sure we both are but i've got to ask you one question to be sure: Do you like video games? I hate video games, and fun is a buzzword. You're supposed to play a game to experience the features, not have "fun"! ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
Atticus Fynch 358	Posted - 2012.01.19 23:20:00 - [32] - Quote I think the latest in SW themed games was Force Unleashed. I played it and loved the graphics and gameplay in it though the ganeplay was bit too scripted for me. (That is to say, you have to follow a certain order of action in order to get past a level which eliminates freedom of choice IMO.) I was expecting the same with TOR. I was disappointed. I mentioned this on the TOR forum prior to release and was shouted down by the die-hard, pathetically apologetic fans. I didnt bother subbing once it came out. Play RIFT. It's a superior game in many ways. Especially visually. GÿàGÿàGÿàCargo Pilots Unite!!!GÿàGÿàGÿà https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=668132&#post668132
Brujo Loco Brujeria Teologica 325	Posted - 2012.01.19 23:49:00 - [33] - Quote Hahahaha ... Hahahaha ... (points at TOR) Even if they just lose HALF of everyone and never get it back, I'll be a happy bitter little troll, just a couple more month and they perhaps will probably stabilize around EQ2s pop. I honestly hope they @%!@%!23 sink and tank the game and that it ends like STO. Or who knows, perhaps they will go Tabula Rasa after the IP is no longer profitable enough to even sustain a couple servers. Nothing but sheer hatred and venomous bile from my part to SWTOR, and in consequence to EA, they have finally surpassed SOE in evilness, egotistical mediocrity masqueraded as superiority and total degradation of whatever human souls they had within them. Hope they rot in Hell. Same with RIFT and any other P2P MMO out there. Damn Dinosaurs. They should go extinct!!! Except EVE/CCP I think they have enough pumps and people willing to help them stay afloat until the moment they decide to go AWESOME again. (goes back to play Evochron Mercenary) Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco
Atticus Fynch 360	Posted - 2012.01.20 00:20:00 - [34] - Quote Brujo Loco wrote: Same with RIFT and any other P2P MMO out there. Damn Dinosaurs. They should go extinct!!! Except EVE/CCP I think they have enough pumps and people willing to help them stay afloat until the moment they decide to go AWESOME again. (goes back to play Evochron Mercenary) RIFT is awesome. Dont know what you are talking about there. GÿàGÿàGÿàCargo Pilots Unite!!!GÿàGÿàGÿà https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=668132&#post668132
stoicfaux 656	Posted - 2012.01.20 01:39:00 - [35] - Quote Ugh. Just received another SWTOR email inviting me to "See what the critics are saying" with a bunch of "Best of .. 2011" ratings/reviews and an appeal to buy the game Now! Seems a bit early for a marketing push. Rift was meh. Just mindless PvP'ing with no real consequences. I can get that with TF2. Personally, I'm holding out hope for Secret World. Granted, my hope is tempered by the fact that this is a Funcom MMO. =/ You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
Tiberius Sunstealer Phantom Soulreavers 66	Posted - 2012.01.20 02:04:00 - [36] - Quote Lord Mandelor wrote: I hate video games, and fun is a buzzword. You're supposed to play a game to experience the features, not have "fun"! Well said. We are indeed from the same place.
Atticus Fynch 360	Posted - 2012.01.20 04:02:00 - [37] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Rift was meh. Just mindless PvP'ing with no real consequences. I can get that with TF2. The warfronts in RIFT are pretty good. If you win, you get credits for better loot. If you lose...you get nothing. The quests are incredibly varied. No repetition at all, and once done you cant repeat them. You cant compare RIFT to EVE..they are two different games. GÿàGÿàGÿàCargo Pilots Unite!!!GÿàGÿàGÿà https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=668132&#post668132
Tiberius Sunstealer Phantom Soulreavers 66	Posted - 2012.01.20 05:28:00 - [38] - Quote Atticus Fynch wrote: You cant compare RIFT to EVE..they are two different games. He wasn't, though.
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence 80	Posted - 2012.01.21 14:21:00 - [39] - Quote I don't get what the fuss is about. Unlike most people in this thread i'm actually playing TOR and rather enjoying it, for now. Haven't had any problems or bugs or whatever. I wanted a new KOTOR and i got my wish, sort of.
So Sensational Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.01.21 18:05:00 - [40] - Quote Spent quite a few hours on this game since December 14th. Suffice it to say that Bioware/EA has now earned the #1 spot SoE used to hold on the altar of Shitbad Developer and Community Management teams. Practically every decision they've made has been beyond terrible. Can't believe a company of this magnitude could hire people who are so completely inept at their jobs.
SpaceSquirrels 255	Posted - 2012.01.22 00:52:00 - [41] - Quote I'm still boggled by how disappointed people are. It was never not a wow clone... The previews from every gaming site said it was the same ole song and dance with voice acting and star wars slapped on... Were so many of you star wars fanbois that you didnt see through it... or did just that many people not do their research? (******* Christ on a stick every day star wars game is the same in terms of content. Fight Rancor, fight a jedi, fight a boba fett look alike, have a snarky character and some droid sidekick, have a Han solo character... Put a wookie in there somewhere...have a battle in space.) Don't believe me? Go back look up all the starwars games for the past decade and view what levels they have in them. All the same. (Oh yeah have hoth or cloud city level) Hell I heard it actually had quite the bugless/servers not exploding launch. Which for MMO's is generally good...then they squash the bugs...then they add new content. So far the they've followed the formula. I just find it odd that you people are angry at them for it. Considering they're doing exactly what they said they were going to do...
2bhammered Perkone Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.01.22 01:37:00 - [42] - Quote leviticus ander wrote: when I was watching the video I was wondering if they had pulled a star trek online. hyped it up forever, then made a massive flop that might hang on for a few months to a year before going F2P. EA never goes f2p do they? they just let them die or shut down. As for STO I must have missed the hype on that one, I was hyped about it back when I used to talk to the devs that were orginally making the game, then that studio flopped, game as well and cryptic "saved" it from not even being released. I was under the impression everyone knew it was to be a flop, I never got it and did not bother now when it is free even and I am a trekki :P somewhat.
So Sensational Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.01.22 01:53:00 - [43] - Quote SpaceSquirrels wrote: I'm still boggled by how disappointed people are. Hell I heard it actually had quite the bugless/servers not exploding launch. Which for MMO's is generally good...then they squash the bugs...then they add new content. So far the they've followed the formula. I just find it odd that you people are angry at them for it. Considering they're doing exactly what they said they were going to do... People are not disappointed because it's a WoW clone, they're disappointed because it's a really poor one. They haven't squashed the bugs, they haven't added content (Unless you count finishing a dungeon they kept in the game at release despite how broken and incomplete it was). Even if they do both of these, which they likely will, their mechanics are absolutely horrible, which is the main problem. They appear to be rotten to the core because said core appears to have no idea what the **** they're doing.
2bhammered Perkone Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.01.22 01:59:00 - [44] - Quote Their game engine is terrible, like looking at KOTOR 1& 2 and say "hey let's take this and add thousands of people into it and a jump function!!!" If not for patches+cheats and mods I would not be able to finish either of those games, same goes for Skyrim, because of bugs and gamebreaking problems. What BW did was forget the step of making a game and settled with only making a license deal.
2bhammered Perkone Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.01.22 02:32:00 - [45] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P2zkzXX3XE I can't stop laughing, a vid like yeah, biodrones are funny creatures.
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 112	Posted - 2012.01.22 05:13:00 - [46] - Quote 2bhammered wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P2zkzXX3XE I can't stop laughing, a vid like yeah, biodrones are funny creatures. I remember seeing a post from one of the forum members saying "I wish there was a Jedi trick for talking to girls :(". I laughed a lot harder than I should have . . . ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
Tiberius Sunstealer Phantom Soulreavers 66	Posted - 2012.01.22 06:20:00 - [47] - Quote 2bhammered wrote: Their game engine is terrible You do know their engine doesn't support rollbacks, right? That is why when players asked for rollbacks they weren't listened to.
So Sensational Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.01.22 06:52:00 - [48] - Quote 2bhammered wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P2zkzXX3XE I can't stop laughing, a vid like yeah, biodrones are funny creatures. You want more? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-2c1cz63-E&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFJ9-sMrRWY&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9C9OKMyZng&feature=player_embedded http://i.imgur.com/RXuGW.jpg
Grimpak Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 368	Posted - 2012.01.22 12:47:00 - [49] - Quote So Sensational wrote: Can't believe a company of this magnitude could hire people who are so completely inept at their jobs. you know, where I work at, I have to deal with it every day. the fault are not on the inept people. you can't blame them on being inept. you can, however, blame who hired them. Bad management has one of those things [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
2bhammered Perkone Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.01.22 15:47:00 - [50] - Quote So Sensational wrote: 2bhammered wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P2zkzXX3XE I can't stop laughing, a vid like yeah, biodrones are funny creatures. You want more? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-2c1cz63-E&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFJ9-sMrRWY&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9C9OKMyZng&feature=player_embedded http://i.imgur.com/RXuGW.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzp2AtIqQPo lol, stanry rue ding dong bannu is the funniest David gaider and oh somany other funny BW personalities. Also button awesome is funny. To be honest, the whole thing is just a joke now, a running gag. I have buyers remorse and feel sad that this game turned out to be what it is, but now it is just funny, especially their fans the biodrones are even more funny than MW3 vs BF3 or even 360 vs PS3 fanboys. They do remind me a little of Wii fanboys back in the day that said HD TV is stupid and no one notices a difference because of how the eye was built...
2bhammered Perkone Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.01.22 15:57:00 - [51] - Quote Tiberius Sunstealer wrote: 2bhammered wrote: Their game engine is terrible You do know their engine doesn't support rollbacks, right? That is why when players asked for rollbacks they weren't listened to. Would not surprise me, but I see worse problems than that or did see when I played. It honestly has the feel in everyway of being a bug ridden single player RPG engine like old kotor games or even bethesdas games and then forced to handle a multiplayer enviroment. It is not gamebreaking for a singleplayer RPG, especiallywhen we got tools, console, cheats and mods. But in a multiplayer game it is gamebreaking.
Brujo Loco Brujeria Teologica 326	Posted - 2012.01.22 16:54:00 - [52] - Quote Atticus Fynch wrote: Brujo Loco wrote: Same with RIFT and any other P2P MMO out there. Damn Dinosaurs. They should go extinct!!! Except EVE/CCP I think they have enough pumps and people willing to help them stay afloat until the moment they decide to go AWESOME again. (goes back to play Evochron Mercenary) RIFT is awesome. Dont know what you are talking about there. Wow, well, good for you, I found it to be totally DULL, boring and repetitive, I even hear people shouting they loved how they had found a perfect POLISHED WOW CLONE 2.0 to play with ... I went from level 1 to 50 in 2 weeks, made R3 PVP and managed to experience all instances save the final dragon raid ... The moment I realized I had to farm plaques over and over and over again and they "$%!$&$ rifts and then rifts finally died since no one was doing them I was like, woa, I have been killing stuff over and over for 13 years since my days in EleMud, UO, EQ1, EQ2, CoH-CoV, TR, MO, WAR, VG, LOTRO, DDO and about 10 random more mmo's ... No really, after all this time they still do the same CRAP OVER AND OVER? So they did what? made a server jump system, retweaked rifts, blah blah, just dressing to the random plain cake. In all these years EVE is the only MMO I know of that does things diff (real time skills, no avatars, everything is just empty space,etc) , meh, even Asheron's Call , which is still alive tried to do something different (you can like dodge incoming missile fire by just strafing and a bunch of random skills to mix and match for your leisure, something like that with a newer look might be interesting) ... why oh why everybody keeps doing OVER AND OVER the same wasted bunch of a crap leveling template. I mean, from my geek background of Tabletop RPG's I have experienced how a lot of systems have tried over the years to evolve, and tabletop gaming is a minuscule market, yet they keep expanding upon it. Why %^!$#^$#^$#^MMO's have to be so stupidly STALE? Rigid Level/Xp templates are like basic Dungeons and Dragons leveling in the 1st Revised Edition back in the late 70's. I have seen skill up based systems, raw point allocation then upgrade by use in session or out of session, building skill trees that expand as you build upon basic roots, finesse systems that despite the amount of skills make you as fragile as a level 1 char yet wise skill use makes you harder to hit/engage, mechanic add-ons that affects overall skill use like madness, recharging, psychology, etc, modular build up of a character template that lets you customize on the fly without use of gear as the main enhancer of skills, systems where gear is non existent as it boils down to a prop , card based system that use randomness of deck selection as modifiers, deck building strategies that rely on cards to explain the story, hybrid of card decks plus random die mechanics, specialized die (beyond basic d20/d12/d10/d8/d6/d4) system that relies on special characterss in generic d8s/d10s, warhammer like systems of throngs of D6s and no leveling but permanent enhancements as campaign progresses, Second by Second systems of Initiative in systems that demand more logical thinking that dice rolling, generic d100s systems that rely on situational modifiers over extensive tables, pre-created large template chars that can be attuned to smaller sets of templates to create a whole and ON AND ON AND ON ... In MMO terms, the market is still in practically 1981 Tabletop RPG ERA with hardcoded XP amount = levels, gear progression that adds raw 1 to X bonus to a specific action or set of actions, raw stat buffing and GOLD as the standard currency as the TOP GROSSING WESTERN MMO in the WORLD. NO REALLY WTF? WTF???????????????????? After 30+ years I have seen ALL KINDS of "leveling systems" and I can't simply understand why no one dares to be different ... I know I know, money talks, blah blah, but seriously, with the trend of Indy gaming resurfacing (as the wave of more indy games coming out keeps growing) I think some fat wallet fool can be coerced into investing in something else than the damn wow clone template. No really, why are we still stuck in the 80's? The stupid voiceover madness makes me remember when AD&D Second Edition launched it's starter set with a VOICEOVER CD ( TSR # 1135 Big Black Box with Audio CD) to add more "feeling" to the game ... yet game was still the same with polished rules based upon the same template and redubbed 2nd EDITION!!! omg wowowowowooww! , so in MMO terms this is how I see SWTOR. Ugh. Anyone hailing an mmo as AVANT GARDE in the year 2012 that uses the same mechanics of YORE as WOW is either deluded, completely delusional, naive, NEW to the genre or plain conformist or simply has tastes I can't begin to fathom at all FROM MY SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT. I'm not trolling, or flaming nor insulting ... I just can't understand. Oh wait, I get it, they into VINTAGE!!!!!!! Ahhhhhh ... everything is clear now, yeah, vintage fetish, I can understand that, silly me. I retract then my earlier statement, I wasnt aware the whole MMO market catered to the vintage fetish. Woa! Honestly, the 1980's called, and the year 2004 is busy waiting. ugh ... my heard hurts nao Damn "Vintagers" ruining my game Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco
So Sensational Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.01.22 17:23:00 - [53] - Quote Grimpak wrote: So Sensational wrote: Can't believe a company of this magnitude could hire people who are so completely inept at their jobs. you know, where I work at, I have to deal with it every day. the fault are not on the inept people. you can't blame them on being inept. you can, however, blame who hired them. Bad management has one of those things TORtanic reeks of bad captainship.
2bhammered Perkone Caldari State 8	Posted - 2012.01.22 17:24:00 - [54] - Quote http://www.lo-ping.org/2012/01/20/the-swtor-story-as-told-by-episode-iii-and-v/ this is sooo funny, really is, everyone should check it out
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 114	Posted - 2012.01.22 17:24:00 - [55] - Quote Stanry Roo and Hamburger Helper are usually guaranteed laughs. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
Brujo Loco Brujeria Teologica 326	Posted - 2012.01.22 17:42:00 - [56] - Quote 2bhammered wrote: http://www.lo-ping.org/2012/01/20/the-swtor-story-as-told-by-episode-iii-and-v/ this is sooo funny, really is, everyone should check it out OMG THE LAUGHS WERE HAD EPICALLY THIS DAY!!! Awesome Link! Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 114	Posted - 2012.01.22 17:47:00 - [57] - Quote 2bhammered wrote: http://www.lo-ping.org/2012/01/20/the-swtor-story-as-told-by-episode-iii-and-v/ this is sooo funny, really is, everyone should check it out Why didn't Fredo just throw Bioware in the lava and use the eagles to make actual content? ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
Grimpak Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 368	Posted - 2012.01.22 18:24:00 - [58] - Quote EDIT: ack no, bad joke. too soon to use it. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
So Sensational Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.01.22 18:44:00 - [59] - Quote Grimpak wrote: EDIT: ack no, bad joke. too soon to use it. ** that, what was it? Wait let me guess... And on the starboard side of the Costa ConTORdia you can see the beautiful island of Pandar... http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1446/oopstor.png **.
Grimpak Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 368	Posted - 2012.01.22 19:36:00 - [60] - Quote So Sensational wrote: Grimpak wrote: EDIT: ack no, bad joke. too soon to use it. ** that, what was it? Wait let me guess... And on the starboard side of the Costa ConTORdia you can see the beautiful island of Pandar... http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1446/oopstor.png . ah ** it, I'll just say that EA/BW pulled a Schettino. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Baneken Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate 74	Posted - 2012.01.22 21:05:00 - [61] - Quote Destination SkillQueue wrote: Such attempts were to be expected though and will even be celebrated by the fanboys and marketing talk illiterate. I've followed a decent amount of MMO launches and every one of them have plans to get people to sub for additional months. Timing patches right before subs end, so people see fixes are being made and new content added(Backfired for TOR). They can also intentionally withold content from launch and put it in a content patch later on, so they can give the impression, that they can deliver high quality content quickly and make it easier for people to sub for another month. I see it more as prudent planning than anything else at least from the company's point of view, but if they don't deliver people can, rightly so, feel angry about being manipulated. Or they do it Blizzard style with burning crusade where "open beta testers" were given only one area to "test" and that area filled with ridiculously good gear (for lvl's that they were usable) in order to get the buzz going. Result of c. was that everyone just HAD to buy the new expansion because the new gear was insanely good and WOW being WOW you had to had gear to have any life expectancy in PvP. And once boy were people annoyed when they realised that lvl 70 blue dungeon stuff was worse then lvl 63 random green monster drops and they realised that this good stuff just so only happened to drop on that specific area where beta test had been held (starting area what else ...).
Spineker 109	Posted - 2012.01.22 21:14:00 - [62] - Quote This was the typical response when you tried to speak out about some broken issue in the game. Quote: The only people hating are the people new to the MMO / gaming world who dont understand the process involved in making an MMO pre and post launch. Or the people blaming the game for there rubbish PC's and hardware issues. I never seen such rabid fanboys for a game. That was a nice reply compared to most. Everyone I know who bought it unsubbed within a couple weeks and went back to whatever they were doing.

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