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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
2598
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Posted - 2012.01.14 15:42:00 -
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xxanjoahir wrote:Discuss....
Small pvp corp wanting good fights is constantly being blobbed....
seems to be the norm these days ....
Everyone says they want small fights.
Yet nobody can find one.
Discuss Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
32
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Posted - 2012.01.14 15:58:00 -
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Null-blobs are the most insecure carebears in all the EVEverse.
Why u no fly into our blob, u scare, u cant pray game? |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
2599
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Posted - 2012.01.14 16:30:00 -
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I've noticed that people who whine about "blobs" are rarely above killing a lone guy they caught on the gate with their 7 man gang, but they're quick to complain about being killed by his 50 friends. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
344
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Posted - 2012.01.14 17:02:00 -
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"omg y do u use logi agenst our frig fleets"
**** off tia |

Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
420
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Posted - 2012.01.14 19:14:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:I've noticed that people who whine about "blobs" are rarely above killing a lone guy they caught on the gate with their 7 man gang, but they're quick to complain about being killed by his 50 friends.
That should be Malcanis' 2nd law Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.-áPeace out Zulu! Hope you land well! |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1278
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Posted - 2012.01.14 19:20:00 -
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define blob
and
congratulation to Lady Spank ... You used to be on your own if i remember... Hydra is good... well considering last year AT.
As i understand it blob is an question of sovereignty warfare. Altho i saw some irrational hot drops on few ships. |

Miyamato
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.01.14 19:23:00 -
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xxanjoahir wrote:That is exactly what it is like in eve.... so funny that video.... reminds me so much of the alliances we keep trying to have a gf against and keep getting WTF pwned due to ****** tactics.... We want the fights and end up being beaten due to serious overkill...
This does not make any sense. You are a small alliance looking for a fight and you whine about the fight being too much for your small gang?
That is like the taliban crying about the size of the American military that came crashing down on them .... oh wait ...
Look, thats just ummm .. reality. I am new to the game but have played plenty of others. If you plan to fight, you better bring as many people as possible because it is likely the other people looking for a fight are going to be more organized then you are, thus bringing more people.
Strength in numbers. That has been a motto of war from its outset. Your talking about war here, not friendly neighborhood competition.
I'd say, do what I always do. Build a strong squad of 30, train in .. i guess low-sec is what this game would be, in different scenarios with different types of squads and you will be more honed to handle whatever the other guys throw at you. Oh, and I'm guessing this Blob thing is aka Ganked, meaning you have 30 vs 5 or something. In this game, I think it would be smart to have someone in your squad sitting back and constantly keeping an eye on the sector. I mean, if he suddenly scans 40 new ships you can probably guarantee those ships are going to be interested in you. |

Miyamato
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.01.14 19:38:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:xxanjoahir wrote:Discuss....
Small pvp corp wanting good fights is constantly being blobbed....
seems to be the norm these days .... Everyone says they want small fights. Yet nobody can find one. Discuss
My guess is they did find them, and lost.
So then they come back and whine about inbalances of the combat system. Then they get a bigger squad together, kill smaller squads to " punish " those that did it to them, and then get ganked by a squad 4x their size when they become noticed. And again, they come back and whine.
Or just plain lie that " me find no fight! " ....
As you saw, this guy was complaining as well about being killed by bigger squads. So meh ... it is this way in every single game where PvP is even somewhat possible. |

Fearless M0F0
Incursion PWNAGE Asc
9
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Posted - 2012.01.14 20:35:00 -
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xxanjoahir wrote:Discuss....
Small pvp corp wanting good fights is constantly being blobbed....
seems to be the norm these days ....
In WWII, the ratio of allied v/s German soldiers got up to 8.6 to 1 in 1944.
The ratio of allied v/s German aircraft on D-day was 7.4 to 1.
Source
I guess they blob because it works ...  |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1278
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Posted - 2012.01.14 20:38:00 -
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Fearless M0F0 wrote:xxanjoahir wrote:Discuss....
Small pvp corp wanting good fights is constantly being blobbed....
seems to be the norm these days .... In WWII, the ratio of allied v/s German soldiers got up to 8.6 to 1 in 1944. The ratio of allied v/s German aircraft on D-day was 7.4 to 1. SourceI guess they blob because it works ... 
or maybe because ally vehicles .. be it land or air ones was terrible and easy to produce and inferior to any german one.. include T34s
And just to put it in there.. since you used WW II .. kills by 3rd Empire vehicels vs ally was something about 150 : 1
and every ally who can count their finger on their right hand could use them. |
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ElQuirko
The Demonfuge Malevolent Fan Club
311
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Posted - 2012.01.14 20:57:00 -
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Small corp wants good fights with no blobs? Go to wormhole space. Or WoW. |

Rose Valley
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.14 22:12:00 -
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I always thought this game was about exotic dancers |

Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
57
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Posted - 2012.01.14 22:42:00 -
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Yes. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
839
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Posted - 2012.01.14 22:52:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Fearless M0F0 wrote:xxanjoahir wrote:Discuss....
Small pvp corp wanting good fights is constantly being blobbed....
seems to be the norm these days .... In WWII, the ratio of allied v/s German soldiers got up to 8.6 to 1 in 1944. The ratio of allied v/s German aircraft on D-day was 7.4 to 1. SourceI guess they blob because it works ...  or maybe because ally vehicles .. be it land or air ones was terrible and easy to produce and inferior to any german one.. include T34s And just to put it in there.. since you used WW II .. kills by 3rd Empire vehicels vs ally was something about 150 : 1 and every ally who can count their finger on their right hand could use them.
Terrible? not by a longshot, German tanks had thin mantles, were easy to track, had terrible weaknesses on the turret, and Italian tanks? they called them rolling coffins for a reason.
later in the war everything outperformed german aircraft, BF109s were the best it ever got for the lufties, once the mustangs and p38s came in it was all over, hell even the spitfires held their own in the face of overwhelming odds
you might want to get rid of those old soviet history books from the 50s, they have a couple of inaccuracies
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

Ioci
Space Mermaids
58
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Posted - 2012.01.15 03:25:00 -
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Insanity, doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.
Move your corp to test server, split up in to 2 groups and smash each other in to the ground. Let the blob junkies play with them selves. |

Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
106
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Posted - 2012.01.15 04:10:00 -
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xxanjoahir wrote:Dradius Calvantia wrote:I get small gang good fights all the time....
You are doing it wrong. I know thats a lie as we fight against you guys and your small gang is is always 10 more than what we bring.
my fleet + 1 = QQ Y U Blob
amidoinitrite
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Ruiner Drudge
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2012.01.15 08:31:00 -
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Small gang complains about blob. Solo pilot complains about small gang.
I don't understand how small gangs can complain about being killed by blobs, when they essentially sit on gates and blob solo pilots.
Morganta wrote:later in the war everything outperformed german aircraft, BF109s were the best it ever got for the lufties, once the mustangs and p38s came in it was all over, hell even the spitfires held their own in the face of overwhelming odds
Me262? |

Valei Khurelem
159
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Posted - 2012.01.15 08:51:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Small corp wants good fights with no blobs? Go to wormhole space. Or WoW.
No, YOU go to WoW, ******* blob fleet noob. |

Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
364
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Posted - 2012.01.15 09:43:00 -
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Yes.
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Midori Tsu
Evolution
101
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Posted - 2012.01.15 10:23:00 -
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Excuse me, but what defines a blob? Is someone bringing slightly more ship than you? Is there a certain percentage between the fleet sizes? Or is there a set number of ships? i would very much like to know exactly how big a fleet has to be to be considered a blob. |
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Pinaculus
Insanely Twisted
131
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Posted - 2012.01.15 10:51:00 -
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Midori Tsu wrote:Excuse me, but what defines a blob? Is someone bringing slightly more ship than you? Is there a certain percentage between the fleet sizes? Or is there a set number of ships? i would very much like to know exactly how big a fleet has to be to be considered a blob.
A blob is any fight that outnumbers you by 1 or more in which you lose. I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs. |

Pinaculus
Insanely Twisted
131
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Posted - 2012.01.15 10:59:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Small corp wants good fights with no blobs? Go to wormhole space. Or WoW.
And please don't back to WoW. It's an awful game.
Wormhole space is, however, packed full of carebears in multi-billion ISK cruisers in tiny corps that generally don't know how to PVP well.
Just saying, if you gank one then you get an A-Type module drop. If they blueball you then you run their sites for them and make enough ISK to go buy a B-Type module for your trouble. And you can do all that while making people with no friends cry.
That's what I hear, anyway.
Or you run into another corp in their doing the same thing, and then.....GOOD FIGHT FOR EVERYBODY! \o/ I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs. |

Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
95
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:40:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Fearless M0F0 wrote:xxanjoahir wrote:Discuss....
Small pvp corp wanting good fights is constantly being blobbed....
seems to be the norm these days .... In WWII, the ratio of allied v/s German soldiers got up to 8.6 to 1 in 1944. The ratio of allied v/s German aircraft on D-day was 7.4 to 1. SourceI guess they blob because it works ...  or maybe because ally vehicles .. be it land or air ones was terrible and easy to produce and inferior to any german one.. include T34s And just to put it in there.. since you used WW II .. kills by 3rd Empire vehicels vs ally was something about 150 : 1 and every ally who can count their finger on their right hand could use them. It was the spirit which allowed Germans to win their battles and fight till the end, when everyone else (except may be just us, Russians) would have already resigned.
I mean, I can't help smilling thinking of those 2 mere Panthers of 1st SS division (Leibstandarte Adolf ******) ewaporating a crapload of Shermans supported by infantry. 2008, CCP Zulu(park): "command ships are fine as is" 2011, CCP Greyscale: "is the Nighthawk actually underpowered?" Nice progress, guys. |

Pinaculus
Insanely Twisted
132
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:50:00 -
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Yeah, that and amphetamine. I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs. |

Zimmy Zeta
Battle Force Industries Tactical Invader Syndicate
669
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:23:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote: or maybe because ally vehicles .. be it land or air ones was terrible and easy to produce and inferior to any german one.. include T34s
And just to put it in there.. since you used WW II .. kills by 3rd Empire vehicels vs ally was something about 150 : 1
and every ally who can count their finger on their right hand could use them.
It was the spirit which allowed Germans to win their battles and fight till the end, when everyone else (except may be just us, Russians) would have already resigned.
I mean, I can't help smilling thinking of those 2 mere Panthers of 1st SS division (Leibstandarte Adolf ******) ewaporating a crapload of Shermans supported by infantry.
Small lesson in history: Unlike the Wehrmacht, the regular german army, the Waffen-SS was not a military oragnization but a 100% political institution. Their leaders did for the most part have no military training; career and position within their ranks was determined by political success within the leading political party. Being a political tool, they always were provided the best and most recent weaponry, also the propaganda always focused on the Waffen-SS to build them up as national heroes- and to **** off their worst rivals, the "regular" Wehrmacht officers. Having no military knowledge worth mentioning, the Waffen SS only had one tactic: "Forward, no matter the odds". For the most part they did not operate to capture strategical points at minimal losses, they just rushed head on into any "blob" of enemies to supply juicy killmails to the propaganda machinery. The propaganda seems to have worked outstandingly, as I see that Russians are still speaking with respect and admiration about them. But for the military success of Germany in WW II the Waffen-SS was merely a footnote- a small gang of wannabe elitists looking for goodfights that got smashed by the allied blobs. -.- |

Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
95
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:41:00 -
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Propadanda is something when you lose horribly due to being caught with your pants down or simply being bad at combat in the first place and then call it a massacre or war-crime.
As for the Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS, the differences were getting smaller and smaller throughout the war and those 2 entities were never really any 'rivals', much less 'worst' ones.
You seem to be confusing Allgemeine and Waffen-SS, btw. 2008, CCP Zulu(park): "command ships are fine as is" 2011, CCP Greyscale: "is the Nighthawk actually underpowered?" Nice progress, guys. |

MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
83
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:47:00 -
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To paraphrase a line from Tremors:
"Exactly how many ships do you need to have a blob? Is three enough? Is there a minimum blob?" Yes, I only have a Vigil, I've had a bad bit of luck Ok? |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
206
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:47:00 -
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This is the most bizarre application of Goodwin's Law I've seen in a long time.   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |

Jenshae Chiroptera
426
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:52:00 -
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Game does not have to be the Zerg. Go give the lock time thread a bump.
It talks about how the more enemies that lock onto one ship, the longer it takes other enemies to lock onto it. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
861
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Posted - 2012.01.15 16:54:00 -
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Ruiner Drudge wrote:Small gang complains about blob. Solo pilot complains about small gang. I don't understand how small gangs can complain about being killed by blobs, when they essentially sit on gates and blob solo pilots. Morganta wrote:later in the war everything outperformed german aircraft, BF109s were the best it ever got for the lufties, once the mustangs and p38s came in it was all over, hell even the spitfires held their own in the face of overwhelming odds Me262?
too little too late generally too fast for dogfighting, extremely short flight time, unstable engines with a horrid mix nasty chemicals for fuel ignore the movies, there wasn't enough 262s to have an impact that late in the war, it was an innovation, it was the first operational combat jet. Of course it was better then anything else in the air, at least at killing bombers. but with a couple of operational Staffel it made no impact
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
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