Originally by: Paladin Vent

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My purpose was to create an objective, unbiased political map of the EVE. The map, that will not base on someoneÆs thoughts and opinions, but only on public facts, such as sovereignty of the solar systems.

Each claimed solar system emits its influence to the nearest space. The system with outpost emits 6 times more influence than regular claimed one. The system with greater sovereignty level emits the more influence. The amount of the influence is reducing proportional to the square distance from the emitting system. For every point of map the summary influence of all alliances is calculated and the territory lays claim to the most influencing alliance.

Moreover, influence is spreading through the jump gates to the neighbors' systems. After each jump influence value decreased by 70%. All systems that get influence from the star gate spread also begin to emit it in space (Systems can emit influence for different alliances concurrently).

The systems, claimed by NPC are also emitting a little ôempireö influence, so the alliances canÆt claim their territory.

Just think that influence is water and color on map is steam. This should clarify the idea of the map.

Map is fully generated by the Java program. No editions were made to it by the human hands. Some of the alliances donÆt appear on the map, because their influence is to low to overwhelm their big influencing neighbor.

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Originally by: 1v1

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So the automated map really becomes.. automated! Never again will we have to scream and complain about the lack of daily updates.

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Originally by: Jomin Herdsy

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You should make individual powerblocs a uniform colour.

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Originally by: Kadarin

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Excellent work! You should release your source code in the case that you have to leave for whatever reason.

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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien

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Can Exuro Mortis please be coloured pink?

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Originally by: Righteous Fury

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Originally by: Verite Rendition

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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien

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Can Exuro Mortis please be coloured pink?

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Are you an EM diplomat?

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Pink is fine, if you can be bothered.

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Originally by: Sleyn Peade

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I've also noticed btw, that the lower part of the........UUA-F4-region the tanis/dev alliance is in, is covered with some pure influence. Shouldn't those systems be emitting NPC-sov influence to push it off, or does that irritate the already-insignificant-and-irrelevant tanis influence up there?

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Originally by: Gnulpie

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One thing would be really really nice. If someone could write a little program which makes an animation based on the changes in sov. That would look so cooool! Sadly I am not at all competent enough to do such a thing or I would do it.

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Originally by: cal nereus

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Originally by: Marie Sklodowska

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Edited by: Marie Sklodowska on 20/08/2007 08:10:37The only thing that's confusing me is the little smidgen of BoB blue in the middle of nowhere (between MC and FIX space, and it's actually below the "Pool of Radiance"). How is this possible? :)

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I'm guessing because the map calculates influence, rather than simply sovereignty. BoB has so much influence that it overtakes that space even though there's actually nothing there. :-P

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Originally by: 5n4keyes

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Forget to turn mysql on again, the maps the same as yesterdays =(

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Originally by: cal nereus

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Edited by: cal nereus on 02/09/2007 04:35:51
Edited by: cal nereus on 02/09/2007 04:35:02
Triumvirate continues to antagonize some people in both the Alliance and Coalition, while also remaining friendly with some in the Alliance and showing a willingness to work with those from the Coalition. They also show up as neutral to many in the Coalition I think. So, they would be Free Agents yes?

The IAC-FIX conflict is largely an extension of the Great War, with IAC being allied with the Southern Coalition. I don't see any reason to make them Free Agents.

D-L is a free agent? How'd they end up with sovereignty in BoB space?

Invictus has been working with Southern Coalition forces against BoB and BoB's allies, so I'm going to assume that they would fit more in the SOuthern Coalition category rather than the Free Agents category.

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Originally by: Azzerhoden

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Edited by: Azzerhoden on 03/09/2007 19:43:26
Edited by: Azzerhoden on 03/09/2007 19:23:25
Can you change the color for Intrepid Crossing? It is currently the same color given to the Imperial Order and close to the color of Frege. Perhaps a nice purple since that doesn't appear to be used in the drone regions?

Also, can you move the name down just a bit?

Thanks!

EDIT--- My bad, IRON is purple (on the color test map). Still, the map shows some distance between us so it may be ok.

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Originally by: Azzerhoden

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Edited by: Azzerhoden on 03/09/2007 23:11:01

Originally by: Verite Rendition

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I need someone who is your diplomat to make that request; you don't even have your own tags on.

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DOH! What a newb mistake.

I had discussed with our Diplomat, and he didn't care one way or another. I'll follow up with him again however.

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Originally by: Azzerhoden

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How about the follow?
Red 0
Green 192
Blue 0
Hue 85
Sat 255
Light 96

As for placement of our name, just below the 'Int' is a system. Can the name be moved so that this system is just above the 'Int'?

Thanks in advance, and I love this map!

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Originally by: Icy One

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Have you thought about making the colours for the powerbloc map slight variations of the same colour? Like Josh's map.

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Originally by: Bish Ounen

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Edited by: Bish Ounen on 01/10/2007 03:30:55
Thank you for keeping the map available. I don't suppose you have the source code files too? The originals were also hosted on eve-files and are (for obvious reasons) not downloadable right now. Perhaps you can put them on sourceforge?

Thanks

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Originally by: Dave White

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Originally by: Carnmire

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Is there any possible way to compile all the maps chronologically so that we see the "tides" of sovereignty over time?

Please say its possible

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yeeh, like a .gif or something. that'd be sweet

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Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn

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Originally by: Verite Rendition

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Exactly. While influence dissipates quickly over space, BoB's core systems have a ton of it. The capital of a constellation has 180 points of influence(for reference, a single system with sov 1 has 10) on top of the additive influence of all their neighboring holdings. The result is a lot of influence on the map, which rightly represents just how much control of the area they have. So that blob over no space is a result of their influence radiating a great deal outwards, only to have pockets inside of it where MC and FIX's influence is enough to keep BoB from being awarded their systems on the map, while they don't have enough influence to stop BoB from radiating out towards that blob.

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Doesn't show blood raider npc space in Querious 0.0 really either. :( Great map though. I wonder if npc 0.0 regions could be marked somehow too, no one can really claim them...

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Originally by: Draekas Darkwater

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Hmm, looks like Evoke might need a colour change if they stay in Fountain right next to Bob. It looks to me like they're identical colours. Whatcha think Verite?

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Originally by: SirMolly

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Edited by: SirMolly on 22/10/2007 12:46:32
new power bloc map looks good, though it's a bit inaccurate.

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Originally by: Patch86

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I'm not sure I like the idea of some NPC regions having a stronger influence than others on the arbitrary distinction of how powerful the neighbours are, for two reasons.

1) It makes the influence blobs harder to interpret. That is to say, there being a random gap in BoB space makes it look for all the world like they have less overwhelming influence in Delve than is the case, which sort of defeats the object of having an influence blob.

2) It requires you the map-maker to individually tweak the area if and when the neighbours' sovereignty levels change. The purpose of this map is to be an almost-automated and completely neutral map. If you're tweaking the core settings in accordance with the ebbs and flows of individual space holders, it's not really automated or neutral...

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Originally by: Draekas Darkwater

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The new powerbloc map is pretty good Verite, although I think the colours could maybe use some work. Would it be possible to use different shades of the same colour for the different bloc members?

Its still much better than having all the different alliances melded into a couple of blobs though. But with them all the exact same colour its a bit hard on the eyes.

Another possibility would be to retain each alliance's normal colour from the influence map for the alliance name only. Maybe surround the names with an outline of the bloc colour. The part of the code that draws the alliance names does this already but uses black for the background/outline colour.

Maybe that, with the different shades for the territory colours would work better.

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Originally by: Zylatis

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Not sure the power bloc one is accurate, i mean tri are fighting MM and IAC are fighting along side ragoon yet the colour is the same as ISS for us?

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Originally by: Lee ChanKa

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i like joshua map just because of one reason and you dont hawe it on your map..

can you please make wher ppl fight not just teritori? your map is nice realy but i dont see any fight on thet map and thet is what i and probably most players wont to know..

i supose thet is a big work but if you make it..gj for you

regard
lee aka ewqilibirum

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Originally by: Venix

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Just curious to why my alliance doesnt have our Influence around our own systems anymore (our northern most const). We used to always have it, and all of a sudden it shows the close by alliance to have Influence.

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Originally by: Selene D'Celeste

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What exactly do you want? Alliance Icons? Something else?

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Originally by: NATMav

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Edited by: NATMav on 07/11/2007 13:46:35
Is it possible to pull ships kills in last 24 hours and place a marker where kills > X number to designate hot spots? It would be difficult and unreliable to attempt to automate warzones based on sov, given that systems and stations are handed from one entity to the other peacefully quite often.

Or maybe have one marker for large battles where lots of ships are getting killed, and combine that with sov changes so if you have X number of kills along with sov change, it gets marked a warzone.

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Originally by: Vladimir Antlerkov

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Edited by: Vladimir Antlerkov on 07/11/2007 18:43:59

Originally by: Verite Rendition

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Originally by: Selene D'Celeste

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What exactly do you want? Alliance Icons? Something else?

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I'd like to see something like Josh's map where warzones are marked, and perhaps some kind of indicator of momentum.

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Paladin Vent's map would highlight any territory that changed hands in the previous 24 hours with diagonal patterns (example, although using one of the monthly summaries: http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/UNL/0705-summary.png). I suppose you could use different types of diagonal hashing to highlight territory that changed hands in the past day and past week, i.e. 2-pixel-wide lines for 1 day ago, 1-pixel wide for up to 1 week ago.

edit: fixed link

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Originally by: Patch86

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Is the "3 power blocs" thing definitely a keeper, or are you planning to expand it with the final product?

As pointed out, Tri+Co are arguably a power bloc on their own, and the drone regions would definitely have been it's own back when there was a MAD Pact.

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Originally by: BAteh

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Originally by: 5n4keyes

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This is the future you see

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hahhaa. Seriously, i'm keeping this gem. I'm just not going to link it here because it would surely trigger some trolling from people unhappy with the randomness of my bug. ;)

But i'll just stfu and laugh a bit more now, because i see Smash and CVA in Deklein.. heh.

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Originally by: Sacrophage Nexus

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Weird - I can't see the influence map for 12/14/07.

I can see 12/13 fine, though.

Anyone else notice this?

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Originally by: Frygok

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You also need to update the new region names.

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Originally by: hipno

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Would be nice if you could reflect our sov (Atlas alliance) in that map.

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Originally by: Ice Baby

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Would be really cool if you could add systems with sov 4 but without local sov into your map.

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Originally by: Ice Baby

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Right now, systems with constellation sovereignty, but without any pos in system don't show up on your map.

Like
http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/all.asp?FilterType=Region&FilterBy=Feythabolis
K-J50B
5-LCI7

for example

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Originally by: ceaon

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404 on
http://eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png

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Originally by: Draekas Darkwater

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Just curious, but any plans to try to work in FW sov in the "battleground" (so to speak) systems? Assuming that data is available that is.

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Originally by: Dex Nederland

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Originally by: Verite Rendition

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Originally by: Draekas Darkwater

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Just curious, but any plans to try to work in FW sov in the "battleground" (so to speak) systems? Assuming that data is available that is.

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My understanding from FW is that systems will change hands, as such the EVE API should accurately list who the owning faction is. I want to maintain the purity of the current influence map since it's about the 0.0 alliances, but I am currently planning a second map for just FW (with the 0.0 regions cut out as to allow Empire space to be shown at a larger scale).

In other words, yes.

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Would you mind including the regions connected to Empire space? I suspect who owns those areas will be pertinent to those of us involved in FW.

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Originally by: Azzma

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you rock

you know what else would be cool is if you could somehow automate the alliance symbols to show on the map too

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Originally by: McFly

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Originally by: Cosy

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what means grid ref ?
and btw how i see the grid oO

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I'm gonna guess here and say it's prolly the eve-maps mapbook

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Originally by: Pamangkin

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any idea why sov change is not showing? thanks.. great map btw

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Originally by: Ron Wright

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Edited by: Ron Wright on 29/09/2008 06:23:12
@Verite: Is there a new status of the automated Powerbloc Map Project? http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/2417/newblocmapqq7.png

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Originally by: sliver 0xD

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hey,

is there a way we can change our color on the map ?

Kadeshi is curently looking green and so is imoral dragons.
can we make kadeshi a difrend color ?

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Originally by: Armoured C

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did anyone realise that the tanis dev allioance has space outside of jove space ? that is veiwable, just noticed it

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Originally by: Zeminy

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I keep timing out everytime I try and retrieve this map... not sure why.
Can't even get to eve-files.com

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Originally by: Rhas Seikar

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Why was Kenzoku changed from pink to Blue?

Is everyone able to change their displayed alliancecolor?

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Originally by: Sjoep enLai

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i think Atlas needs another color.

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Originally by: Blazde

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Atlas are there in Omist, same colour as -A-. They actually have some systems inside -A- territory that are indistinguishble from -A- systems. Then you've got C0VEN and Sylph Alliance bordering -A- also in green. Colours there could really do with tidying up a bit.

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Originally by: Doc Oxley

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Pandemic Pink tbh

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Originally by: Ammath

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Anyone else getting timeouts downloading the map?

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Originally by: Crucifier

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Funny how biased the creator of this map is . When XIX had 1 station in Tenerifis they were shown as a small blob on the map in Tenerifis. Bob has controlled 2 stations in Querious for some time now and a few weeks ago GBC controlled almost half of the systems in Querious but nothing there. Also with Atlas controlling almost all the Detorid stations goons/RA are shown as the owners.

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Originally by: ENFEMUS

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Maybe I can pester Verite until he has some free time to look into it.

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