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Recruiting Time
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Posted - 2007.08.19 23:49:00 -
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Edited by: Recruiting Time on 19/08/2007 23:49:30
We paid a corp (Zombies Squad) a agreed upon amount of isk to un-war-dec our corporation. They then re-war-dec'd us after a few days. DO NOT negotiate with these backstabbers, as they will take your isk and then re-dec you.
Zombies Squad = Liars and Cheats
btw this is my alt. so was the ours chick thread below. if a dev could. plz remove the post.
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Alex Raptos
Caldari
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2007.08.19 23:52:00 -
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How much did you pay?
Always assume, your never safe when money and pirates are in the same business
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.08.19 23:55:00 -
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Want to make ransoms not worth the effort for griefers? Don't pay the ransom.. Ever.. 
 Originally by: David Hackworth
ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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sableye
principle of motion
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.19 23:56:00 -
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oh noes
Join The Fight With Promo Today |
Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.20 00:02:00 -
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You'd probably find a better response in Crime & Punishment forum.
I know most pirate organizations frown on other pirate organizations breaking such agreements. After all many pirates make ISK this way and if people feel it is just a scam then they will not pay thus impacting them. Something they take a dim view on.
Of course there are always two sides to every story. Sure you did not do something to provoke a response or are part of an alliance that did? (Dunno...just asking)
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Mirirar
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2007.08.20 00:04:00 -
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I think we should offline the servers and have everyone hold on until this is resolved diplomatically.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.20 00:37:00 -
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Contact REPO Industries (REPO) and The Really Awesome Players (TRAPS), they take a very dim view of dishonoring ransoms, I imagine you can recruit their help against them. 
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Whiners - Unite!
Tarminic - 26 Million SP in Forum Warfare. |
Price Watcher
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Posted - 2007.08.20 00:56:00 -
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You would have done better to fight them.
Dane-geld
(A.D. 980-1016)
Rudyard Kipling
IT IS always a temptation to an armed and agile nation,
To call upon a neighbour and to say:ù
ôWe invaded you last nightùwe are quite prepared to fight,
Unless you pay us cash to go away.ö
And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask it explain
That youÆve only to pay Æem the Dane-geld
And then youÆll get rid of the Dane!
It is always a temptation to a rich and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say:ù
ôThough we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
We will therefore pay you cash to go away.ö
And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But weÆve proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.
It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray,
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say:ù
ôWe never pay any-one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that plays it is lost!ö
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Bryg Philomena
Green Lantern Corps
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Posted - 2007.08.20 02:33:00 -
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name and shame in C&P, tbh its not smart of them to dishonour ransoms, and tbh, 80% of pirates do honor ransoms
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Am I reading this correctly? You claim you have a bug that undresses female avatars???
Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie |
Buggsi
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Posted - 2007.08.20 13:53:00 -
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Players policing themselves.
I saw all that tough anti-gank talk on in the PVP zones in WOW. It doesn't work. Players aren't going to spend their time looking for gankers, just like cops typically don't stop crimes BEFORE they happen. Thats why its called "Crime and punishment."
Since there isn't a working bounty system (in any game), then all you got is a bunch of crime and no punishment. Game turns into a random gankathon.
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.08.20 14:29:00 -
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Ohnoes!
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Drizit
Amarr
Lonely out here
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.20 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Recruiting Time
Edited by: Recruiting Time on 19/08/2007 23:49:30
We paid a corp (Zombies Squad) a agreed upon amount of isk to un-war-dec our corporation. They then re-war-dec'd us after a few days. DO NOT negotiate with these backstabbers, as they will take your isk and then re-dec you.
Zombies Squad = Liars and Cheats
Welcome to Eve.
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Tellenta
Gallente
White-Noise
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.08.20 14:53:00 -
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I paid a ransom once. But I was horribly drunk. Some advice, when your drinking whiskey on the rocks dont keep the bottle next to you. That ransom was honored however, I raced myself to a safe station and went to bed.
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Plib
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Posted - 2007.08.20 14:55:00 -
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And this surprises you?
Never, ever, pay a ransom (nor blackmail). Not in Eve. Not in real-life.
No-one that asks for one is honourable and all that paying up does is encourage them.
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.08.20 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Plib
No-one that asks for one is honourable and all that paying up does is encourage them.
Meh, disagreed.
When I used to pirate, pre-SF, I always asked for ransoms when possible or where the person didn't annoy me and make me want to kill them. I also made it a point to honor said ransoms if I made them, however, that being said if you think everyone in EVE is like me, you're wrong.
Never fly what you can't afford to lose, and if you do get in a ransom situation, if you can afford it without too much of a sweat, might as well try on the off chance they're honorable. If not, well then, the ship was already dead to begin with, you know ?
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ArchVonBaron
The Black Ops
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Posted - 2007.08.20 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Plib
And this surprises you?
Never, ever, pay a ransom (nor blackmail). Not in Eve. Not in real-life.
No-one that asks for one is honourable and all that paying up does is encourage them.
You do realise that pirate corps such as Veto will honour ransoms to preserve their reputation?
And I was pirating a few weeks ago, offered a few ransoms but didnt get payed, however if they did pay I would honour the agreement.
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Spaceman Jack
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Posted - 2007.08.20 16:11:00 -
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Well IMHO, if you paid not to get war-dec'ed, you deserve to get war-dec'ed.
Bad move on your part.
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MrTripps
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.20 16:34:00 -
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You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The first is never get involved in a land war in Asia. The second, only slightly less well known, is this: never go up against a pirate when ISK is on the line! Ha ha ha ha ha ha --
With apologies to William Goldman.
"They must find it difficult... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather then truth as the authority."
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Maximor
Skill Level Six
Ground Zeero
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Posted - 2007.08.20 17:02:00 -
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Never, ever pay ransoms. Even if you are desperately losing and have no way out. Ransoms just encourage the prats, and they then have every incentive to re-wardec you, especally if they think they can get you to pay more.
Instead, if you can't win the fight yourself, take the money they demand as ransom, and hire mercs 
If you hold a unix shell up to your ear, can you still hear the c: ? |
prathe
Minmatar
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.20 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Plib
And this surprises you?
Never, ever, pay a ransom ...
what he said
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Judge Ment
Aeon Interstellar Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.20 17:39:00 -
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Was Ransom in my Raven once in Berkidod fitted with faction items 
Same day I did a LVL 4 missions with that same ship/agro, lag out or whatever and lost the faction ship!.
But I don't think Id ever pay the Ransom knowing Im going down anyways.
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Buggsi
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Posted - 2007.08.20 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: ArchVonBaron
Originally by: Plib
And this surprises you?
Never, ever, pay a ransom (nor blackmail). Not in Eve. Not in real-life.
No-one that asks for one is honourable and all that paying up does is encourage them.
You do realise that pirate corps such as Veto will honour ransoms to preserve their reputation?
And I was pirating a few weeks ago, offered a few ransoms but didnt get payed, however if they did pay I would honour the agreement.
Roleplaying takes a backseat to griefing, nobody is going to remember who roleplays and who doesn't.
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Sphynx Stormlord
Gallente
Anqara Tech
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Posted - 2007.08.20 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Recruiting Time
Edited by: Recruiting Time on 19/08/2007 23:49:30
We paid a corp (Zombies Squad) a agreed upon amount of isk to un-war-dec our corporation. They then re-war-dec'd us after a few days. DO NOT negotiate with these backstabbers, as they will take your isk and then re-dec you.
So, you paid them to un-dec you, which they did. Maybe you should have made an agreement before paying that they wouldnt re-dec you later.
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.08.20 23:22:00 -
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Whoa, was OP changed? Was this always about corp ransoming or did it mutate under my nose?
Well, okay then - if its a corp wide ransom? Hell no, don't pay it. A belt ransom is a one-time thing (usually), you get ransomed then either get backstabbed or run - a corp ransom? Once you've paid, they can threaten again without any problem because all they have to do is send an EVEmail to your CEO and *bam* more money in their pockets.
Never give a mouse a cookie, lest they ask for a glass of milk...
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