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Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.20 13:15:00 - [1] Why oh why are T2 hammerheads 5 times the cost of T2 vespas? hammerhead does more damage and has more armor. 0.3 more damage modifier I think. Vespa is faster and has better tracking. vespa: kin hamm: therm what gives? can someone help me plez???? ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt you sad little exploiting metagamer."
TerrorWOLF PURE Legion Pure.	Posted - 2007.08.20 13:19:00 - [2] People just look for max DPS so they buy what givs a small amount of more DPS. And building cost could have something to do with it. May Your Death Be Slow And Painful
SeismicForce Clear Horizon Industries	Posted - 2007.08.20 13:19:00 - [3] Probably due to the fact that people are willing to pay 5x more for them. Other than that you answered your own question : they do the most damage. Any maybe that they are Gallente, and all things Gallente rock...
voidvim Minmatar Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.20 13:20:00 - [4] people like thermal damage for pvp and maybe a price cartel ?
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.20 13:21:00 - [5] but given that vespas have better tracking, wouldnt they get excellent hits more often, and thus MORE DPS??? a T2 hammerhead has the same tracking as a T1 Vespa. I understand why the other two drones are not very expensive: EM and EXP damage arent extremely popular, for various reasons. ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.20 13:21:00 - [6] Originally by: voidvim people like thermal damage for pvp and maybe a price cartel ? This might be true: there are few T2hams on the market, and LOTS of T2 Vespas. ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.20 13:22:00 - [7] Originally by: Cornucopian Originally by: voidvim people like thermal damage for pvp and maybe a price cartel ? This might be true: there are few T2hams on the market, and LOTS of T2 Vespas. and why favor Therm over Kin? em for shields, exp for armor. do we add to that that there are 2 races that base Kin: gall and cal, both of which use hybrids. and only one that bases therm, amarr. ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt you sad little exploiting metagamer."
OneSock Silentia Mortalis	Posted - 2007.08.20 13:24:00 - [8] There's just more demand for them becuase people think they are better. of course "better" is always subjective as it depends what you are shooting. For example against serpentis rats, who are generally weaker resist to kinetic you would use vespa2 or you might argue that the Higher DPS of Hammer2 outweighs the difference in resists. Who can say, I've never seen the stats to back up any of these claims so I reckon they are likely about the same and I will stick to the cheaper ones. Drones being drones, you are gonna lose a few !
Ashaz Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.08.20 13:38:00 - [9] Hammers do _alot_ more damage. sure vespas are faster, but when things go fast, just send in the warriors instead =) ...but yea. 5 vespas for the prics of one hammerhead. the size of the wallet will decide. iDrone
Haffrage Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.20 13:44:00 - [10] Originally by: OneSock There's just more demand for them becuase people think they are better. of course "better" is always subjective as it depends what you are shooting. For example against serpentis rats, who are generally weaker resist to kinetic you would use vespa2 or you might argue that the Higher DPS of Hammer2 outweighs the difference in resists. Who can say, I've never seen the stats to back up any of these claims so I reckon they are likely about the same and I will stick to the cheaper ones. Drones being drones, you are gonna lose a few ! Hammerheads do more damage. Enough to notice. Use hammerheads. If you want fast drones, use valkyries or warriors. Rarely will you find a threatening ship that has high base T2 resists to explosive AND thermal, which is why people tend to only carry explosive and thermal drones. If it's T2 amarr, drop some thermal. If it's T2 gallente, drop some explosive. If it's Minmatar, depends on the ship, generally explosive because it's probably speed tanked. If it's caldari which has decently high explosive AND thermal, don't panic! Use whichever, it's not like it'll kill you T2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers \| Eve GUI Tweaks
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.20 13:48:00 - [11] Originally by: Ashaz Hammers do _alot_ more damage. sure vespas are faster, but when things go fast, just send in the warriors instead =) ...but yea. 5 vespas for the prics of one hammerhead. the size of the wallet will decide. doesnt tracking have an influence on DPS? the better your tracking the more excellent hits you get??? or at the very least LESS misses? by that reasoning Vespas would do samish DPS as hammerheads, prolly still a little lower.... everyone says T2H has better damage, and I agree: the modifier for a T2H is higher, but this does NOT take into account that fact that the vespa has far superior tracking. ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Berand Obsidian Inc.	Posted - 2007.08.20 13:52:00 - [12] Hammerhead IIs have been overpriced for more then a year. And yes, tracking makes a difference on DPS, but placing value on the vespa's better tracking means you're assuming the hammherheads miss a lot. I'm pretty sure the tracking on the heammerheads is sufficient for pretty much anything cruiser and bigger. I had a great idea! We could copy Outbreak's sigs! I've only seen it done like, one or two or maybe three times, so it's sure to be funny.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.08.20 13:54:00 - [13] It's good to be Amarr, cheaper ships, drones, guns, ammo, everything! So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Tellenta Gallente White-Noise Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.20 15:35:00 - [14] Probably for the same reason The good Medium mods are more expencive usually than the large mods. More people fly and lose HAC's, cruisers, battlecruisers, commandships... etc more buyers = higher prices due to higher demand. Before the nos nerf was announced medium diminishing nos was what a trillion isk a pop? It was madness
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.08.20 15:38:00 - [15] ...am I the only one that prefer fast T2 valks to the slowpoke T2 hammerheads? --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote: "Players are fine, boost guns"
Vigor Ekem	Posted - 2007.08.20 16:55:00 - [16] Me hugs his t2 hammerhead bpos.. while rolling around in isk
Vandalias	Posted - 2007.08.20 17:13:00 - [17] Originally by: Vigor Ekem Me hugs his t2 hammerhead bpos.. while rolling around in isk Gimme gimme gimme now now now!! Personally I try to fill in damage holes with drones, so on Amarr and Gallente ships (excluding the drone ships) I tend to use valks, on Minmatar ships I tend to use hammers.
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.20 17:14:00 - [18] If it's any consolation, the price is unlikely to go any higher for any lengthy period of time; currently, you just about break even when inventing them. Barring market manipulation & rises in mineral prices, the 3m Hammerhead II is gone for good. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Major Stallion Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.08.20 18:09:00 - [19] Originally by: Cornucopian and why favor Therm over Kin? em for shields, exp for armor. errr because the smart people tank their weakest resists? thermal is widely considered a universal resist weakness. ________________________________ High Sec PvP

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