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Denathis Arabar
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Posted - 2004.02.06 00:19:00 -
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OK i know this is probably the wrong place, but this is to do with eve, and i find you all to be a mine of information so here goes.
I currently have a ge force 2 gts and its cool but some of the effects are missing nowadays on new games. I want a new card which will run eve in all its glory and also the new games coming out soon. But im overwhelmed by the amount of different types...
Basically here is what i am aiming for, something which works for the new generation of games (DX 9) and will run well but is not ú300 nearer ú100-180 max.
Through my research and asking in eve chat i narrowed it down to a Radeon 9600xt 128mb or a creative 5700 ultra 128mb. But i have been told by a supplier the power colour 9800 is better then both these and only ú20 more... Im not sure about the brand though because i hear this matters too... 
Any ideas on which card to get or the final choice, i see there is a new generation of cards coming out soon, in the next couple of months i think, would it be better to wait for this (not to buy but because the cost of the others will all drop)
Well sorry if this is in the wrong place but it is mainly for the eve graphics  thanks in advance for all your help guys, also i would be very impressed if people with the cards i mentioned could say how pleased they are with the cards and how they run.
Again thanks everyone.
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.02.06 00:40:00 -
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Personally, I stick with nVidia just because I know nearly every game and program is specifically programmed to run well on them ...
I have an nVidia GeForce 4 Ti-4800 with I believe 256mb (or something along those lines) and it runs EVE super well. Dunno, I just like the nVidia cards for some reason.
I heard the Radeons have problems, but that's neither here nor there.
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Carmen Electra
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Posted - 2004.02.06 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: Carmen Electra on 06/02/2004 00:48:55
Ok, Cao Cao is a little out of the loop  but that's ok...
Currently ATi cards provide superior Image Quality, Performance, and stable drivers.
I run EVE at 1280x1024 at 4x Anti-Aliasing and 16x Anisotropic Filtering, smooth as butter. My card cost me $200, voltmodded and cooled at 466/351. Which makes it faster than any card you can buy all for a modest price.
The nVidia FX series is terrible mainly due to a unified compiler and a whole sham with DX9 vs CG support that I'd rather not spend 10 pages elaborating on. The GF4 series rocks though.
If you want top of the line performance, IQ, go for the R300 series (9500,9600,9700,9800)
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Kruppe
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Posted - 2004.02.06 00:54:00 -
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haha Cao Cao owned
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Atandros
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Posted - 2004.02.06 00:57:00 -
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I'm playing with a 9800XT with all the bells and whistles on and everything's silky smooth at 1600*1200. [/bragging]
Antialiasing is allegedly better quality than Nvidia's (haven't seen a direct comparison tho, so can't comment), as well as the image quality (ditto). I also heard of some problems, particularly with planets, but the newer cards like XT's don't seem to have it.
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Carmen Electra
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:05:00 -
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I'm playing with a 9800XT with all the bells and whistles on and everything's silky smooth at 1600*1200. [/bragging]
Antialiasing is allegedly better quality than Nvidia's (haven't seen a direct comparison tho, so can't comment), as well as the image quality (ditto). I also heard of some problems, particularly with planets, but the newer cards like XT's don't seem to have it.
That is correct, ATi uses a rotated grid algorithm with gamma corrected anti-aliasing (blends edge properly with whats behind it), this makes for a much crisper smooth line than nVidia drivers support.
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Rinji
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:14:00 -
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PLus sun occlution (sp?) always works on Radeon cards. 
Vice Admiral Rinji Morisato
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t0rfiFrans
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:17:00 -
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EVE was originally developed so that it would run on Geforce I (!). At the time the decision was taken, the release date was expected to be sometime in 2001 (!). It soon became obvious that GeForce II was the minimum and I think it says so on the box. We still had one PC with GeForce I during development, much to the distress of the person who used that PC, our composer RealX.
We built our shaders using only two texture stages per pass, as is the maximum on GeForce II cards. There are no per-pixel effects or vertex shaders, as we found we could achive the same effects people were using them for ( bump maps / anisotrophic lighting, fresnel effects ) via smart cube map usage. This enabled us to keep everything compatable with GeForce II. Obviously, there are no CG effects either, it's all vanilla DirectX 9. So when choosing a graphics card and comparing benchmarks there are two things to look out for:
1. Texture memory. 64 Mb feels good, 128mb feels better.
2. Fill rate. No numbers here, but our particle effects and multi-pass shaders can be real fill rate hogs when you are sitting in a 100 ship fleet battle. I tried optimizing them, but our perfectionist art director kept slapping on my fingers.
3. AGP Bandwidth. Obviously 8x is better than 4x and 4x is better than 2x.
Of course there are other issues, like AA crispness etc, but there are the main factors in rendering performance.
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Carmen Electra
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:26:00 -
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There is also a problem with depth buffer precision, but I know ATi is fixing this now. Also, the AA crispness has been an issue, but Catalyst 4.1 has done a fantastic job with fixing that.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:27:00 -
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"We built our shaders using only two texture stages per pass, as is the maximum on GeForce II cards. There are no per-pixel effects or vertex shaders, as we found we could achive the same effects people were using them for ( bump maps / anisotrophic lighting, fresnel effects ) via smart cube map usage. This enabled us to keep everything compatable with GeForce II. Obviously, there are no CG effects either, it's all vanilla DirectX 9."
... t0rfiFrans, while your attention is on the subject, EVE has been having ****load of graphics errors on low-end Radeon cards (9000 etc.) since quite a few official patches. Stuff like badly rendered character portraits and icons (missing geometry, untextured or partially textured geometry, no graphics at all) as well as planets (again, missing parts of texturing or in some cases no texturing whatsoever)
Was chalking that up to some high-level shaders you might've been using, but reading your description i figure it's not the case and you might want to look into those issues. (they were reported in the patch review section, trying to issue actual bug reports always wind up with "internal server error" for me. :/
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:28:00 -
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I have an NVIDIA FX5900 Ultra card, gfx look quite awesome, in all my games...
Used to use ATI, switched to Nvidia, have had no reason to switch back...
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Nwalmaer
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:32:00 -
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Currently ATi cards provide superior Image Quality, Performance, and stable drivers.
Only they can't even render character portraits correctly, but whatever floats your boat. 
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Primo x
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:32:00 -
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Edited by: Primo x on 06/02/2004 01:36:02
I run the Nvidia FX-5950 256mb card($528 US dollars) and i actually had to turn the settings down on it. Never had a bit of problems with it since and i do recomend it if you have the money.
I also play alot of FPS games and my frame rates are crazy good.
Good luck with what ever card you all run and enjoy the eye candy in this game. 
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t0rfiFrans
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:32:00 -
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... t0rfiFrans, while your attention is on the subject, EVE has been having ****load of graphics errors on low-end Radeon cards (9000 etc.)
Noted. There have been many issues with them, especially laptop chipsets. We are aware of these bugs and they're addressed one by one. Some need to be fixed by vendor's drivers, while others could possibly be bypassed by some black magic programming.
The issues you speak of are all areas where we are rendering the frame buffer to a texture so they're related.
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Carmen Electra
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:35:00 -
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Currently ATi cards provide superior Image Quality, Performance, and stable drivers.
Only they can't even render character portraits correctly, but whatever floats your boat.
Uhh...no probelms on my system. Could you be more specific?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:40:00 -
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"Noted. There have been many issues with them, especially laptop chipsets. We are aware of these bugs and they're addressed one by one. Some need to be fixed by vendor's drivers, while others could possibly be bypassed by some black magic programming."
Ohh, great to hear. ;o
Something i was wondering about, at least as planets are concerned. Wouldn't (temporary or not) switch to using Emerald texture bank you have in the resCelestialTextures file... instead of those layered textures that doesn't seem to combine correctly... improve the appearance on the low-end cards, even though the diversity would suffer a little? ^^;
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Carmen Electra
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:45:00 -
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Planet texturing appears to work correctly on my system; in fact they're the best looking planets I've ever seen in a space sim 
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t0rfiFrans
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:58:00 -
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Planet texturing appears to work correctly on my system; in fact they're the best looking planets I've ever seen in a space sim
Did you know the moon texture maps are made from pictures of food upstairs in our kitchen. We shot splatters of soy sauce, ketchup and milk on a circular plate, did some photoshop magic, made them black and white and converted to depth maps. Converted that then to "bump maps" ( embossed overlay maps ) and then prepared them for spherical projection. Hope I didn't ruin the immersion for anyone by sharing that.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.02.06 02:02:00 -
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my card does have problems with rendering portraits...
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Carmen Electra
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Posted - 2004.02.06 02:03:00 -
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Planet texturing appears to work correctly on my system; in fact they're the best looking planets I've ever seen in a space sim
Did you know the moon texture maps are made from pictures of food upstairs in our kitchen. We shot splatters of soy sauce, ketchup and milk on a circular plate, did some photoshop magic, made them black and white and converted to depth maps. Converted that then to "bump maps" ( embossed overlay maps ) and then prepared them for spherical projection. Hope I didn't ruin the immersion for anyone by sharing that.
I thought you used the hubble telescope
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.02.06 02:18:00 -
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while we're on the subject of graphics;
the last patch did wonders for improving UI response time, but will we see more optimizations with the UI? Right now with the GUI on I'm down to 12-ish FPS, without it, its 30-40.. I know that's the general case on all cards since you have less to render, but it seems to me that the UI is taking a damn lot of resources.
can you also modify the alt+tab (hide UI) command so it shows target icons and displays damage messages, that would make it very useful for combat since it would increase my FPS vastly without suffering from lack of functionality
basically I don't need to see chat, and all the damned windows open when im in the middle of combat
for anyone who's interested:
upgraded from Geforce 4 MX 440 to a Geforce FX 5600 (256mb), very tiny difference in performance, essentially the same but with sun occlusion on.. while I hear of people with the same card up in the 40-50's and sometimes in the 20-30's where I'm only 10-15 fps
but I also have a p3 550, so that's my bottleneck *sigh* 
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RussianBazilisk
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Posted - 2004.02.06 02:31:00 -
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u know Ge Force 4 is working for me.
But u know u dont need much for a wallpaper .
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Denathis Arabar
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Posted - 2004.02.06 02:39:00 -
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Obviously, there are no CG effects either, it's all vanilla DirectX 9. So when choosing a graphics card and comparing benchmarks there are two things to look out for:
1. Texture memory. 64 Mb feels good, 128mb feels better.
2. Fill rate. No numbers here, but our particle effects and multi-pass shaders can be real fill rate hogs when you are sitting in a 100 ship fleet battle. I tried optimizing them, but our perfectionist art director kept slapping on my fingers.
3. AGP Bandwidth. Obviously 8x is better than 4x and 4x is better than 2x.
Of course there are other issues, like AA crispness etc, but there are the main factors in rendering performance.
Ok thanks for all the answers, im in England and really should be asleep but cant  . Where could i find information like this on the cards I am interested in then. I know the bandwidth is 8x on them but i dont know the texture memory im not clued up at all on technicalities of course as you can tell.
Also i was told that sometimes the cards run slower with 256 meg, is this why there is only about ú10 difference between the 128meg and 256 meg versions of lots of the cards. Also torifrans i know you cant say which card is best for impartiality but a mail would be nice lol i wont post it and of course it would be your opinion not the stance of the company...
Twists arm...
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Carmen Electra
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Posted - 2004.02.06 02:40:00 -
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DigitalCommunist,
Yes, the UI does take up too much resources. I think it's all CPU, no GPU, and modifying transparency doesnt change it at all!!? 
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Aturayd
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Posted - 2004.02.06 04:13:00 -
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With my old Radeon 9000 my portraits were getting screwed up. Occasionally, an eye would black out and little glitches would occur with the snapshot process. However, with my new FX 5200, the sun flickers like its a busted light bulb when i look at it in space. It doesnt matter... both cards do a lot of wierd **** in this game.
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Atandros
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Posted - 2004.02.06 05:27:00 -
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There is also a problem with depth buffer precision, but I know ATi is fixing this now. Also, the AA crispness has been an issue, but Catalyst 4.1 has done a fantastic job with fixing that.
Indeed, there's that. I had forgotten it when I was posting, probably because I'm so used to it by now.
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Did you know the moon texture maps are made from pictures of food upstairs in our kitchen. We shot splatters of soy sauce, ketchup and milk on a circular plate, did some photoshop magic, made them black and white and converted to depth maps. Converted that then to "bump maps" ( embossed overlay maps ) and then prepared them for spherical projection. Hope I didn't ruin the immersion for anyone by sharing that.
Hey, I'm dabbling in space art and I recently made a planet surface texture from a big pasta dish...so I'm no stranger to methods like this.
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HYDRO
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Posted - 2004.02.06 06:00:00 -
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Edited by: HYDRO on 06/02/2004 06:00:58
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Did you know the moon texture maps are made from pictures of food upstairs in our kitchen. We shot splatters of soy sauce, ketchup and milk on a circular plate, did some photoshop magic, made them black and white and converted to depth maps. Converted that then to "bump maps" ( embossed overlay maps ) and then prepared them for spherical projection. Hope I didn't ruin the immersion for anyone by sharing that.
Thats pretty funny, gonna be feeling hungry everytime a look at the moon now
So those real bright orange moons are ketchup and milk mix lol  , often wonderd about them .
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Oburn
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Posted - 2004.02.06 06:53:00 -
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ATIs new line seems to have Dx9 down very well (look at Halflife 2 for a reference of future games), . I build alot of systems at work and people are scared to go to ATI because thier old drivers sucked (its true) but with the introduction of the catalyst drivers things have changed. The only problem that remains is all ATIs old cards are still out there being used by people trying to play newer games and the newer the games become the more glitches, artifacting, whitewashing your gonna get with them cards and the drivers are no longer being optimized for these older cards as well (im talking about the early radeon series).
I ran benchmarks at work with that powercolor and it is a very nice card. If you can afford it go for it, it will not disappoint you and you will be set for awhile to come gaming wise.
The only problem i have come across building with ATI cards is the MSI 645 Max-U mobo and that card had major issues. Also stay away from the Saphire drivers from 3rd party "Powered by ATI" cards.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.02.06 09:43:00 -
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I've used an ATI 9500 Pro and a GeForce 4MX, and the ATI worked better in every way.
ALl I need now is for the ATI to be fixed so I can stop using the blasted GF4MX
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Gan Ning
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Posted - 2004.02.06 10:11:00 -
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Anyone using a 256mb Radeon 9800 XT or Pro with EVE? Is it worth the moolah to get EVE gloriously perfect? |
Miso
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Posted - 2004.02.06 10:14:00 -
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Anyone using a 256mb Radeon 9800 XT or Pro with EVE? Is it worth the moolah to get EVE gloriously perfect?
Im using a Radeon 256mb 9600(?) or something.. its the one that retails at like ú100 and is by Creative. Its awesome, highly recommended.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.02.06 10:14:00 -
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Anyone using a 256mb Radeon 9800 XT or Pro with EVE? Is it worth the moolah to get EVE gloriously perfect?
Im using a Radeon 256mb 9600(?) or something.. its the one that retails at like ú100 and is by Creative. Its awesome, highly recommended.
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jason hill
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Posted - 2004.02.06 12:11:00 -
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has anyone got any thoughts on the latest matrox 128/256 graphics cards .i was on thier website last week and it says that they have written some software specialy for games like eve and medal of honour ...has anyone out their tried it out as i was thinking of investing in one of their cards ..
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jason hill
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Posted - 2004.02.06 12:11:00 -
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has anyone got any thoughts on the latest matrox 128/256 graphics cards .i was on thier website last week and it says that they have written some software specialy for games like eve and medal of honour ...has anyone out their tried it out as i was thinking of investing in one of their cards ..
"THE HUMAN SHIELD" |
Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.02.06 12:24:00 -
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Moved to Known Issues & Workarounds.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.02.06 12:24:00 -
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Moved to Known Issues & Workarounds.
Find and meet me here |
Kane Jacobs
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Posted - 2004.02.06 12:24:00 -
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Planet texturing appears to work correctly on my system; in fact they're the best looking planets I've ever seen in a space sim
Did you know the moon texture maps are made from pictures of food upstairs in our kitchen. We shot splatters of soy sauce, ketchup and milk on a circular plate, did some photoshop magic, made them black and white and converted to depth maps. Converted that then to "bump maps" ( embossed overlay maps ) and then prepared them for spherical projection. Hope I didn't ruin the immersion for anyone by sharing that.
Eeeew... Im never gonna be able to watch a moon again...
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Kane Jacobs
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Posted - 2004.02.06 12:24:00 -
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Planet texturing appears to work correctly on my system; in fact they're the best looking planets I've ever seen in a space sim
Did you know the moon texture maps are made from pictures of food upstairs in our kitchen. We shot splatters of soy sauce, ketchup and milk on a circular plate, did some photoshop magic, made them black and white and converted to depth maps. Converted that then to "bump maps" ( embossed overlay maps ) and then prepared them for spherical projection. Hope I didn't ruin the immersion for anyone by sharing that.
Eeeew... Im never gonna be able to watch a moon again...
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Atandros
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Posted - 2004.02.06 13:47:00 -
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Anyone using a 256mb Radeon 9800 XT or Pro with EVE? Is it worth the moolah to get EVE gloriously perfect?
I'm using the 256 9800XT, and it si teh r0xx0r. Not sure if a less expensive card can't give you the same output in Eve, but if you want to play upcoming games gloriously perfectly then it's most definitely worth the moolah, especially compared to the likes of Geforce 5950.
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Atandros
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Posted - 2004.02.06 13:47:00 -
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Anyone using a 256mb Radeon 9800 XT or Pro with EVE? Is it worth the moolah to get EVE gloriously perfect?
I'm using the 256 9800XT, and it si teh r0xx0r. Not sure if a less expensive card can't give you the same output in Eve, but if you want to play upcoming games gloriously perfectly then it's most definitely worth the moolah, especially compared to the likes of Geforce 5950.
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Denathis Arabar
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Posted - 2004.02.07 00:25:00 -
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ok thankyou for your help everyone, keep the suggestions coming, i will tell you what i finally choose and how it works. Gonna be getting it in the next few days for sure.
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Denathis Arabar
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Posted - 2004.02.07 00:25:00 -
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ok thankyou for your help everyone, keep the suggestions coming, i will tell you what i finally choose and how it works. Gonna be getting it in the next few days for sure.
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Ada Isdead
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Posted - 2004.02.14 04:32:00 -
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Planet texturing appears to work correctly on my system; in fact they're the best looking planets I've ever seen in a space sim
Did you know the moon texture maps are made from pictures of food upstairs in our kitchen. We shot splatters of soy sauce, ketchup and milk on a circular plate, did some photoshop magic, made them black and white and converted to depth maps. Converted that then to "bump maps" ( embossed overlay maps ) and then prepared them for spherical projection. Hope I didn't ruin the immersion for anyone by sharing that.
Is this the same kitchen that houses the espresso machine that you can hear in the warp noises?
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Ada Isdead
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Posted - 2004.02.14 04:32:00 -
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Planet texturing appears to work correctly on my system; in fact they're the best looking planets I've ever seen in a space sim
Did you know the moon texture maps are made from pictures of food upstairs in our kitchen. We shot splatters of soy sauce, ketchup and milk on a circular plate, did some photoshop magic, made them black and white and converted to depth maps. Converted that then to "bump maps" ( embossed overlay maps ) and then prepared them for spherical projection. Hope I didn't ruin the immersion for anyone by sharing that.
Is this the same kitchen that houses the espresso machine that you can hear in the warp noises?
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Tedric
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Posted - 2004.02.16 18:22:00 -
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has anyone got any thoughts on the latest matrox 128/256 graphics cards .i was on thier website last week and it says that they have written some software specialy for games like eve and medal of honour ...has anyone out their tried it out as i was thinking of investing in one of their cards ..
I run a Parhelia. I love it!.
It may not be anywhere near the fastet card on the planet. But the Colour saturation with a correct amount of Aliasing (pick and mix to your taste).
What i've come to learn is that the output stages of Matrox cards are just stunning when linked with a proper BNC cable and a good monitor.
The software you are refering to is called the 'Apptimizer" The version I have installed does not cover EVE. Unfortunately do to cuts within Matrox, the guy who supported this free-bee program is no more :(. When a game is available, it does a superb job of balancing the BHP of you machine to Eye Candy.
There are two Cevats with the Parhelia it is slow compared to the new cards, and expensive for what it is. But if you are wanting eye candy, this is the card.
BTW, running THREE monitors is just tooooo cooool to not mention!
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Tedric
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Posted - 2004.02.16 18:22:00 -
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has anyone got any thoughts on the latest matrox 128/256 graphics cards .i was on thier website last week and it says that they have written some software specialy for games like eve and medal of honour ...has anyone out their tried it out as i was thinking of investing in one of their cards ..
I run a Parhelia. I love it!.
It may not be anywhere near the fastet card on the planet. But the Colour saturation with a correct amount of Aliasing (pick and mix to your taste).
What i've come to learn is that the output stages of Matrox cards are just stunning when linked with a proper BNC cable and a good monitor.
The software you are refering to is called the 'Apptimizer" The version I have installed does not cover EVE. Unfortunately do to cuts within Matrox, the guy who supported this free-bee program is no more :(. When a game is available, it does a superb job of balancing the BHP of you machine to Eye Candy.
There are two Cevats with the Parhelia it is slow compared to the new cards, and expensive for what it is. But if you are wanting eye candy, this is the card.
BTW, running THREE monitors is just tooooo cooool to not mention!
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Serano Imladris
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Posted - 2004.02.17 02:25:00 -
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Edited by: Carmen Electra on 06/02/2004 00:48:55
Ok, Cao Cao is a little out of the loop but that's ok...
Currently ATi cards provide superior Image Quality, Performance, and stable drivers.
I run EVE at 1280x1024 at 4x Anti-Aliasing and 16x Anisotropic Filtering, smooth as butter. My card cost me $200, voltmodded and cooled at 466/351. Which makes it faster than any card you can buy all for a modest price.
The nVidia FX series is terrible mainly due to a unified compiler and a whole sham with DX9 vs CG support that I'd rather not spend 10 pages elaborating on. The GF4 series rocks though.
If you want top of the line performance, IQ, go for the R300 series (9500,9600,9700,9800)
if you don't count the biggy drivers..ojh wait you called them superior ..sorry man go on some tech boards Nvidia cards have alot less buggy drivers....
latest driver for my radeon 9700 screwed totally ruined everything....can't play eve...can't play bf 1942 at normal speeds , can't play ffxi at normal speeds either
if thats not bad enough reinstalling the card with older drivers that did work doesn't even fix it ...i think i'm just gonna grab my next pay check and get me an nvidia card
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Serano Imladris
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Posted - 2004.02.17 02:25:00 -
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Edited by: Carmen Electra on 06/02/2004 00:48:55
Ok, Cao Cao is a little out of the loop but that's ok...
Currently ATi cards provide superior Image Quality, Performance, and stable drivers.
I run EVE at 1280x1024 at 4x Anti-Aliasing and 16x Anisotropic Filtering, smooth as butter. My card cost me $200, voltmodded and cooled at 466/351. Which makes it faster than any card you can buy all for a modest price.
The nVidia FX series is terrible mainly due to a unified compiler and a whole sham with DX9 vs CG support that I'd rather not spend 10 pages elaborating on. The GF4 series rocks though.
If you want top of the line performance, IQ, go for the R300 series (9500,9600,9700,9800)
if you don't count the biggy drivers..ojh wait you called them superior ..sorry man go on some tech boards Nvidia cards have alot less buggy drivers....
latest driver for my radeon 9700 screwed totally ruined everything....can't play eve...can't play bf 1942 at normal speeds , can't play ffxi at normal speeds either
if thats not bad enough reinstalling the card with older drivers that did work doesn't even fix it ...i think i'm just gonna grab my next pay check and get me an nvidia card
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Zecht Wisto
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Posted - 2004.02.17 15:08:00 -
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If you're installing drivers right on top of eachother, you will have problems.
Uninstall and reboot after both are gone, then clean the registry, then install new drivers... theres a guide at www.rage3d.com if you need more detail.
Radeon 9800XT>all
ATi drivers right now are not buggy at all, and they've been good about updating them frequently. In the past they have had a bad name for drivers, but now they are much better. If you can afford a 9600XT or 9800XT or pro, get it.
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Zecht Wisto
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Posted - 2004.02.17 15:08:00 -
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If you're installing drivers right on top of eachother, you will have problems.
Uninstall and reboot after both are gone, then clean the registry, then install new drivers... theres a guide at www.rage3d.com if you need more detail.
Radeon 9800XT>all
ATi drivers right now are not buggy at all, and they've been good about updating them frequently. In the past they have had a bad name for drivers, but now they are much better. If you can afford a 9600XT or 9800XT or pro, get it.
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Posted - 2004.02.29 22:33:00 -
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is it worth me getting the ati 9600pro 256mb ram i will be upgrading from the geforce fx5200 i need yo upgrade as the fx does not like eve at all so please recomend a good card at a good prise
mant thanks
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Posted - 2004.02.29 22:33:00 -
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is it worth me getting the ati 9600pro 256mb ram i will be upgrading from the geforce fx5200 i need yo upgrade as the fx does not like eve at all so please recomend a good card at a good prise
mant thanks
Emm?"Cant touch this" den der der dum, der dum der dum KILLING THE BUG'S, BEFORE THEY KILL YOU |
Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.03.01 12:45:00 -
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its alwlays the same arguments between radeon and nvidia. some people say ones better, other say the opposite. im currently trying to decide what card to blow 300 notes on. so its either going to be a 5950 or a 9800pro. as yet im still unsure. in some benches the radeon get whooped, and in other the nvidiea gets whooped. saying that though the nviia drivers are slowly getting better (at one time they were terrible for dx9). ill probably go for nvidia because of past experience. ATI are well known for having bad after sales support (which may have changed since i last bought one) but i have never had any problems with nvidia. we shall see i suppose, i still have 20 days until i get paid to decide what one to get.
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Posted - 2004.03.01 12:45:00 -
[54]
its alwlays the same arguments between radeon and nvidia. some people say ones better, other say the opposite. im currently trying to decide what card to blow 300 notes on. so its either going to be a 5950 or a 9800pro. as yet im still unsure. in some benches the radeon get whooped, and in other the nvidiea gets whooped. saying that though the nviia drivers are slowly getting better (at one time they were terrible for dx9). ill probably go for nvidia because of past experience. ATI are well known for having bad after sales support (which may have changed since i last bought one) but i have never had any problems with nvidia. we shall see i suppose, i still have 20 days until i get paid to decide what one to get.
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Posted - 2004.03.01 14:07:00 -
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Quote:
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Planet texturing appears to work correctly on my system; in fact they're the best looking planets I've ever seen in a space sim
Did you know the moon texture maps are made from pictures of food upstairs in our kitchen. We shot splatters of soy sauce, ketchup and milk on a circular plate, did some photoshop magic, made them black and white and converted to depth maps. Converted that then to "bump maps" ( embossed overlay maps ) and then prepared them for spherical projection. Hope I didn't ruin the immersion for anyone by sharing that.
lol! excellent! this is ingenuity at it's best :) another good realworld example i like is the sound of the hovertanks in Star Wars - Episode I.. made by moving an electric shaver around inside a metal kettle, then filtered a few times and looped :)
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Quote:
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Planet texturing appears to work correctly on my system; in fact they're the best looking planets I've ever seen in a space sim
Did you know the moon texture maps are made from pictures of food upstairs in our kitchen. We shot splatters of soy sauce, ketchup and milk on a circular plate, did some photoshop magic, made them black and white and converted to depth maps. Converted that then to "bump maps" ( embossed overlay maps ) and then prepared them for spherical projection. Hope I didn't ruin the immersion for anyone by sharing that.
lol! excellent! this is ingenuity at it's best :) another good realworld example i like is the sound of the hovertanks in Star Wars - Episode I.. made by moving an electric shaver around inside a metal kettle, then filtered a few times and looped :)
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Posted - 2004.03.01 14:11:00 -
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its alwlays the same arguments between radeon and nvidia. some people say ones better, other say the opposite. im currently trying to decide what card to blow 300 notes on. so its either going to be a 5950 or a 9800pro. as yet im still unsure. in some benches the radeon get whooped, and in other the nvidiea gets whooped. saying that though the nviia drivers are slowly getting better (at one time they were terrible for dx9). ill probably go for nvidia because of past experience. ATI are well known for having bad after sales support (which may have changed since i last bought one) but i have never had any problems with nvidia. we shall see i suppose, i still have 20 days until i get paid to decide what one to get.
never buy the top-notch card, you only get slightly better perfomance than it's "midrange" version and you pay through the nose. currently there's only one card i'd look at:
NVidia GeForce FX 5900 XT
seriously, just take a look at that article and tell me that ain't the best bang for the buck out there right now?
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Posted - 2004.03.01 14:11:00 -
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Quote:
its alwlays the same arguments between radeon and nvidia. some people say ones better, other say the opposite. im currently trying to decide what card to blow 300 notes on. so its either going to be a 5950 or a 9800pro. as yet im still unsure. in some benches the radeon get whooped, and in other the nvidiea gets whooped. saying that though the nviia drivers are slowly getting better (at one time they were terrible for dx9). ill probably go for nvidia because of past experience. ATI are well known for having bad after sales support (which may have changed since i last bought one) but i have never had any problems with nvidia. we shall see i suppose, i still have 20 days until i get paid to decide what one to get.
never buy the top-notch card, you only get slightly better perfomance than it's "midrange" version and you pay through the nose. currently there's only one card i'd look at:
NVidia GeForce FX 5900 XT
seriously, just take a look at that article and tell me that ain't the best bang for the buck out there right now?
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Posted - 2004.03.01 14:31:00 -
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Nvidia 5900 FX Ultra (256 mb). Runs without a single frame being missed. My box is, however, powerful as well. 2.6 gighrt with HT, and a scsi i/o subsystem (adaptec), 1 gig of DDR-400 ram.
I experience no frame rate drop, even in windowed mode.
NVidia is still the best for stability.
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Posted - 2004.03.01 14:31:00 -
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Nvidia 5900 FX Ultra (256 mb). Runs without a single frame being missed. My box is, however, powerful as well. 2.6 gighrt with HT, and a scsi i/o subsystem (adaptec), 1 gig of DDR-400 ram.
I experience no frame rate drop, even in windowed mode.
NVidia is still the best for stability.
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Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.03.02 01:36:00 -
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seriously, just take a look at that article and tell me that ain't the best bang for the buck out there right now?
that card is good, but like it says its the "new king of the budget class". i have allready set aside 300 notes in my budget to blow on a top notch card and it appears i can now get myself a radeon 9800XT for 300 quid which will also include halflife 2 (full game not just singleplayer) as well as the latest tomb raider game (not that i will play it). it beats everything nvidia can throw at it even the 5950. in addition i have enough airflow in my xaser III case to pump up the frequencies to get even more power out of it.
the bottleneck in my box is my gfx card, the rest of the system is running fast with a 2.6 intel HT (soon to be clocked to 3.2) 1gb or ddr400 ram and a lovely 17" iiyama 341s tft.... and anyway..retal therapy is good and the more you spend the better you feel about it :P lol
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Posted - 2004.03.02 01:36:00 -
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Quote:
seriously, just take a look at that article and tell me that ain't the best bang for the buck out there right now?
that card is good, but like it says its the "new king of the budget class". i have allready set aside 300 notes in my budget to blow on a top notch card and it appears i can now get myself a radeon 9800XT for 300 quid which will also include halflife 2 (full game not just singleplayer) as well as the latest tomb raider game (not that i will play it). it beats everything nvidia can throw at it even the 5950. in addition i have enough airflow in my xaser III case to pump up the frequencies to get even more power out of it.
the bottleneck in my box is my gfx card, the rest of the system is running fast with a 2.6 intel HT (soon to be clocked to 3.2) 1gb or ddr400 ram and a lovely 17" iiyama 341s tft.... and anyway..retal therapy is good and the more you spend the better you feel about it :P lol
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:10:00 -
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I am using the radeon 9800 pro on a pentium4, 3Ghz with 1024MB ram... Thats quite hi-end atm, but the graphix are very good. Of course I dont know how much difference there is between the 9800 and nvidias.... I had a Geforce 2 before this, so it is a big difference.
I think both cards have problems, and thats why some people like the one card better, and some like the other better
If you want my opinion, get the 9800! I love it...
Search - Sig
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Christiaan
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:10:00 -
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I am using the radeon 9800 pro on a pentium4, 3Ghz with 1024MB ram... Thats quite hi-end atm, but the graphix are very good. Of course I dont know how much difference there is between the 9800 and nvidias.... I had a Geforce 2 before this, so it is a big difference.
I think both cards have problems, and thats why some people like the one card better, and some like the other better
If you want my opinion, get the 9800! I love it...
Search - Sig
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Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.03.02 13:29:00 -
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I think both cards have problems, and thats why some people like the one card better, and some like the other better
tihnk its a lot to do with brand loyalty. much like AMD and Intel. sometimes people sit up however and notice that their favorite brand isnt living upto expectations so its time for a change. IE when i went from AMD to P4 and now when im considering going from Nvidia to ATI.
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Posted - 2004.03.02 13:29:00 -
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Quote:
I think both cards have problems, and thats why some people like the one card better, and some like the other better
tihnk its a lot to do with brand loyalty. much like AMD and Intel. sometimes people sit up however and notice that their favorite brand isnt living upto expectations so its time for a change. IE when i went from AMD to P4 and now when im considering going from Nvidia to ATI.
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:34:00 -
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true enough, if you have the cash to spend on a top-notch card, do so, i prefer to stay in the cost-effectiveness high-end :)
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:34:00 -
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true enough, if you have the cash to spend on a top-notch card, do so, i prefer to stay in the cost-effectiveness high-end :)
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Posted - 2004.03.03 23:19:00 -
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Only people who can really answer this question are the eve developers. Usually though the current ATI cards have better image quality, ATI's FSAA is better than nvidias. Some even compare ATI's 2xAA to nvidias 4xAA.. (Yes, its that bad). 
So 1280*960 with 4xAF with 16xAF on an R3*0 should be better than anything a FX5950U could provide.
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Shocky
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Posted - 2004.03.03 23:19:00 -
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Only people who can really answer this question are the eve developers. Usually though the current ATI cards have better image quality, ATI's FSAA is better than nvidias. Some even compare ATI's 2xAA to nvidias 4xAA.. (Yes, its that bad).
So 1280*960 with 4xAF with 16xAF on an R3*0 should be better than anything a FX5950U could provide.
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.04 09:11:00 -
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I use a GeForce4-128mb on one computer, and a Radeon9800-128mb on another. They both run EVE at top graphic levels with no problems.
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.04 09:11:00 -
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I use a GeForce4-128mb on one computer, and a Radeon9800-128mb on another. They both run EVE at top graphic levels with no problems.
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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Shocky
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Posted - 2004.03.04 19:15:00 -
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I use a GeForce4-128mb on one computer, and a Radeon9800-128mb on another. They both run EVE at top graphic levels with no problems.
It that a Geforce 4 MX?
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Shocky
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Posted - 2004.03.04 19:15:00 -
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I use a GeForce4-128mb on one computer, and a Radeon9800-128mb on another. They both run EVE at top graphic levels with no problems.
It that a Geforce 4 MX?
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Zervun
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Posted - 2004.03.04 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Zervun on 04/03/2004 21:12:10
My ATI 9700 Sapphire Pro (overclocked 385/375) runs 2 instances of eve flawlessly without any lag, 1280x1024 both screens 2xaa 8xaf. Can put aa to 4 & af to 16af triple on one screen at 1600x1200.
Remember 99% of ATI problems in games are operator error not the card or drivers itself.
You CANNOT just double click on new ati drivers and install them. You MUST remove, reboot, delete all ati registry entries, all ati junk, reboot, make sure everything is gone, then install. A great program for registry removal is jvpowertools at www.macecraft.com. The ATI uninstall program doesn't work that great. Another program I use in tandom is drivercleaner from driverheaven.
I cannot stress how important it is to do a proper install of ATI drivers. Out of the hundreds of support cases I do for the ATI cards, I have never had someone not have great performance after doing a proper driver install. One day you will be able to double click the new driver and have a great install, but that day is not now. Nearly every single one of the people that I have run into with ati driver problems with the cat series has just double clicked to install. This is only viable after a clean OS as winXP does not install ATI radeon drivers by default.
And as far as performance between Geforce vs. ATI. Go take a gander at the graphics card reviews at www.hardocp.com. Without AA or AF the geforces & radeons are pretty much close to the same performance. With AA & AF lvls at above 1024x768, the Radeons literally blow the geforce cards away and doing it with better IQ. Geforces can't even hang at 1280x1204 and above with 4xaa & 4x or more af. I used to be a nvidia fanboi, but they are going down the tubes in performance these days by a large margin. And the driver stability arguement can't be used as the ATI cat's are by far the best driver suite for graphics cards ever.
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Posted - 2004.03.04 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Zervun on 04/03/2004 21:12:10
My ATI 9700 Sapphire Pro (overclocked 385/375) runs 2 instances of eve flawlessly without any lag, 1280x1024 both screens 2xaa 8xaf. Can put aa to 4 & af to 16af triple on one screen at 1600x1200.
Remember 99% of ATI problems in games are operator error not the card or drivers itself.
You CANNOT just double click on new ati drivers and install them. You MUST remove, reboot, delete all ati registry entries, all ati junk, reboot, make sure everything is gone, then install. A great program for registry removal is jvpowertools at www.macecraft.com. The ATI uninstall program doesn't work that great. Another program I use in tandom is drivercleaner from driverheaven.
I cannot stress how important it is to do a proper install of ATI drivers. Out of the hundreds of support cases I do for the ATI cards, I have never had someone not have great performance after doing a proper driver install. One day you will be able to double click the new driver and have a great install, but that day is not now. Nearly every single one of the people that I have run into with ati driver problems with the cat series has just double clicked to install. This is only viable after a clean OS as winXP does not install ATI radeon drivers by default.
And as far as performance between Geforce vs. ATI. Go take a gander at the graphics card reviews at www.hardocp.com. Without AA or AF the geforces & radeons are pretty much close to the same performance. With AA & AF lvls at above 1024x768, the Radeons literally blow the geforce cards away and doing it with better IQ. Geforces can't even hang at 1280x1204 and above with 4xaa & 4x or more af. I used to be a nvidia fanboi, but they are going down the tubes in performance these days by a large margin. And the driver stability arguement can't be used as the ATI cat's are by far the best driver suite for graphics cards ever.
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.05 00:55:00 -
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Quote:
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I use a GeForce4-128mb on one computer, and a Radeon9800-128mb on another. They both run EVE at top graphic levels with no problems.
It that a Geforce 4 MX?
No, actually, it's a GeForce 4 Ti 4400. Even if it was an MX, what's with the rolly eyes? Was I needing to prove something other than naming the cards I use?
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.05 00:55:00 -
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Quote:
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I use a GeForce4-128mb on one computer, and a Radeon9800-128mb on another. They both run EVE at top graphic levels with no problems.
It that a Geforce 4 MX?
No, actually, it's a GeForce 4 Ti 4400. Even if it was an MX, what's with the rolly eyes? Was I needing to prove something other than naming the cards I use?
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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Candy
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Posted - 2004.03.05 03:31:00 -
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Posted - 2004.03.05 07:41:00 -
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Edited by: TheGreatOz on 05/03/2004 07:45:50
Edited by: TheGreatOz on 05/03/2004 07:44:46
I bought a Radeon 9600XT, and I love it. It comes with a coupon for a free copy of Half life 2 (if it's ever released), it out performs the now-defunct 9700 series and it can keep up with the 9800 series on most games for about half the price. EVE runs BEAUTIFULLY on it. Make sure you get the XT though, any other model and you will be very disappointed.
An excellent place to go for comparing different hardware specifications is www.tomshardware.com. It's a very reputable site and is full of product reviews on everything from CPUs to cases and power supplies.
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Posted - 2004.03.05 07:41:00 -
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Edited by: TheGreatOz on 05/03/2004 07:45:50
Edited by: TheGreatOz on 05/03/2004 07:44:46
I bought a Radeon 9600XT, and I love it. It comes with a coupon for a free copy of Half life 2 (if it's ever released), it out performs the now-defunct 9700 series and it can keep up with the 9800 series on most games for about half the price. EVE runs BEAUTIFULLY on it. Make sure you get the XT though, any other model and you will be very disappointed.
An excellent place to go for comparing different hardware specifications is www.tomshardware.com. It's a very reputable site and is full of product reviews on everything from CPUs to cases and power supplies.
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Shocky
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Posted - 2004.03.05 12:04:00 -
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Quote:
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I use a GeForce4-128mb on one computer, and a Radeon9800-128mb on another. They both run EVE at top graphic levels with no problems.
It that a Geforce 4 MX?
No, actually, it's a GeForce 4 Ti 4400. Even if it was an MX, what's with the rolly eyes? Was I needing to prove something other than naming the cards I use?
Was just a question. How does the Geforce 4 Handle 4xFSAA and 8xAF in Eve then? Used to have a Ti4600 myself, been a while tho.
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Shocky
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Posted - 2004.03.05 12:04:00 -
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Quote:
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I use a GeForce4-128mb on one computer, and a Radeon9800-128mb on another. They both run EVE at top graphic levels with no problems.
It that a Geforce 4 MX?
No, actually, it's a GeForce 4 Ti 4400. Even if it was an MX, what's with the rolly eyes? Was I needing to prove something other than naming the cards I use?
Was just a question. How does the Geforce 4 Handle 4xFSAA and 8xAF in Eve then? Used to have a Ti4600 myself, been a while tho.
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.06 14:16:00 -
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Like I said, it runs EVE at top graphic levels. So it handles everything really well.
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.06 14:16:00 -
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Like I said, it runs EVE at top graphic levels. So it handles everything really well.
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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Posted - 2004.03.06 14:34:00 -
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Like I said, it runs EVE at top graphic levels. So it handles everything really well.
running it isnt a problem....what are the frame rates like though?
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Posted - 2004.03.06 14:34:00 -
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Like I said, it runs EVE at top graphic levels. So it handles everything really well.
running it isnt a problem....what are the frame rates like though?
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Posted - 2004.03.06 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Fanible on 06/03/2004 15:29:41
Perfect. When I say it runs it at top graphic levels, I mean it handles, and framerates everything great.
If it lagged or was going slow, it wouldn't be really running it at top graphic levels well, I'd probably lower the graphic settings to run better, and I wouldn't of said it to begin with.
I said it runs at top graphic levels with no problems.
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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Fanible
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Posted - 2004.03.06 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Fanible on 06/03/2004 15:29:41
Perfect. When I say it runs it at top graphic levels, I mean it handles, and framerates everything great.
If it lagged or was going slow, it wouldn't be really running it at top graphic levels well, I'd probably lower the graphic settings to run better, and I wouldn't of said it to begin with.
I said it runs at top graphic levels with no problems.
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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Posted - 2006.05.12 22:27:00 -
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Anyone know if the ATi X850 Pro 256Mb PCI-E supports the W Depth buffer.. I've lived with the flickering stations long enough, and if I don't fix them somehow, I'm gonna buy a ticket to iceland, visit CCP and.. and.. STEAL THEIR BEER SUPPLY!!!!
But seriously, a brand new system that brings tears of joy to my eyes (and my mothers) when I play BF2, should be able to handle Eve... I hope :(
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Posted - 2006.05.13 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Carmen Electra
Edited by: Carmen Electra on 06/02/2004 00:48:55
Ok, Cao Cao is a little out of the loop but that's ok...
Currently ATi cards provide superior Image Quality, Performance, and stable drivers.
I run EVE at 1280x1024 at 4x Anti-Aliasing and 16x Anisotropic Filtering, smooth as butter. My card cost me $200, voltmodded and cooled at 466/351. Which makes it faster than any card you can buy all for a modest price.
The nVidia FX series is terrible mainly due to a unified compiler and a whole sham with DX9 vs CG support that I'd rather not spend 10 pages elaborating on. The GF4 series rocks though.
If you want top of the line performance, IQ, go for the R300 series (9500,9600,9700,9800)
I have a 128mb Mobility 9700. Fps succks ass with a AMD 63 3400+. In a large fleet - the best fps is 5.
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