Just gonna go out on a limb here, but why are you orbiting with MWD on? I'm not an inty pilot, so I might be very wrong here.

I am orbiting the gate at 2,500 with my MicroWarpdrive off

erm...

Stasis Webifier I
Warp Scrambler I

For some reason I find this absolutely hilarious.

The Goon Diplomat, whose stated mission is to make everyone else's experience of the game as miserable as possible, comes to the public forums asking for help.

And the pubbies help!

Oh the irony...

Rifters with microwarpdrives? You nullsec folks have strange ways and I don't understand them.

First, I am not a Diplomat for my Alliance or Coalition;

Second, my stated mission is to be everyone's space friend.;

e: I personally think it's a good thing that everyone in this thread (with the exception of yourself) made no comment at all about my affiliation or filtered their comments because of it.

Fair enough, you may not go by an official title, but your posts imply that you at least represent them at some reasonably high level.

Very funny. Somebody stitch my sides back together I think they've split.



I agree, their comments are pretty helpful and on-topic. Mine was neither on topic nor helpful.

Come on though.. you must see the irony on some level?

Fair enough, you may not go by an official title, but your posts imply that you at least represent them at some reasonably high level.

It would be prejudicial if there was no evidence to support my line of reasoning that Goons (and you) are not interested in helping the public.

There is plenty/

Lyris isn't a representative of anything goon related. He's just an attention ***** who has turned to the eve-o forums seeking that which he cannot find at goonfleet dot com. An audience.

Being a newbie PVP wanabe myself, if it was me i'd fit myself a cloak ( if possible, not checked so dont know ) web, points, ab and go sit roughly where they keep warping to/uncloaking and cloak up yourself.
Then wait.

If or when they decloak or warp to the general area your sat waiting for them at, i'd uncloak and gently caress their chocalate starfish with some 200mm Autocannons and laugh as obnoxiously as possible in local while you orbit and watch their torps scratch your paintwork at 4000m while your 200's rip them to shreds hehe

I'm afraid this wouldn't work on a Rifter as it could only fit a non-covert ops cloak, and suffer a targeting delay penalty.

It's a newbee tackle fit, meant for brand new players to get involved in fleet engagements.

We have newbie tacklers in highsec too. It's just they have disruptors and afterburners instead of MWDs and scrams.

I can understand the Disruptor, but why the Afterburner?

I can understand the Disruptor, but why the Afterburner?

So you don't die instantly when you inevitably get scrammed by another frigate. It actually dosen't matter very much for tackle, it's just a holdover from general purpose frigate fits that are invariably scram+ab.

Also you don't want to tackle a drake in a MWD fit frig.

Have you considered dropping supercapitals or calling the swarm on their asses?

Hi,

I was sitting on the Torrinos gate in EC-P8R today in my newbee tackle Rifter, effectively camping it all by myself. Every so often a couple of stealth bombers would uncloak and shoot bombs or torpedoes at my Rifter, but they would do minimal damage; however, they would always manage to cloak again or warp away from me before I could get in range to get a point, even when I was burning right at them with my MicroWarpdrive. I know that some people have killed bombers in Rifters, within my own alliance, and I am flying one that has two nanofibers in the low slots so I am going fairly fast; but, they manage to get away every time. Is this just a question of luck and timing, or is there something I can do to fix my fit or my tactic?

For comparison, I am orbiting the gate at 2,500 with my MicroWarpdrive off until I see one of them uncloak on my overview and then burning straight at them with an overheaded MicroWarpdrive. My fit is below:

Fleet Rifter
High
3x 200mm AutoCannons (EMP S or other close-range ammo)
1x Salvager I
Medium
1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Stasis Webifier I
Warp Scrambler I
Low
1x Capacitor Power Relay I
2x Nanofiber Internal Structure I

I am not looking for ~elite PVP~ solutions, pretty much anything that requires me to upgrade from meta-0 tech-1 modules is not a solution that I really want to endorse. I was thinking about maybe swapping the stasis webifier or the warp scrambler for a warp disruptor so that I can get the long-range point, though that has trade-offs both in capacitor stability and in potentially losing the tackle if he has a MicroWarpdrive and/or a Warp Core Stabilizer fit to his stealth bomber.

Our outlook towards tackling is a bit different, then.

So long as the Rifter (effectively being used as a cheap Interceptor) gets the tackle and maintains it long enough for some other ship to also get the tackle, then the RIfter has done its job. We do not expect Rifters to return from fleet engagements, and we have the luxury of numbers on our side which guarantees that we'll have a few Rifters in each fleet. That the Rifter getting the tackle may and probably will die, if not in that engagement then in another during that battle, is taken for granted and not viewed as a loss from our perspective. For this reason we do not devote resources to providing traditional, more effective fits, such as a 400mm plate or a Medium Shield Extender; instead, we focus entirely on speed and capacitor stability so that the Rifter can burn however far is needed to get to the target and run the tackle gear.

On the other hand, we do provide our newbee tacklers with some basic instruction along the lines of "turn off the MWD once you're near enough to tackle," though we do often see pairs of "Hero Rifters" burn straight at a target with the MicroWarpdrive overheated, each just one shot away from being blown up by their intended target. It is a boost to morale every time a "Hero Rifter" dies in this fashion, especially if in so doing a tackle is gained and/or a warp-in for the fleet is gained in return for the loss of the Rifter. Why, just yesterday I burned straight at a Cynabal, and later in a different Rifter at a group of Tengus, and died prior to landing a shot; but, in both cases my previous position or my wreck served as a warp-in for other people to get the tackle and kill the targets.

My apologies for all those words.

MWDs are standard in null sec because of bubbles. Who the **** would use afterburners when that basically means you may have to slowboat back 90km to a gate? Also an MWD helps with getting out of a bubble camp.

don't fly uncloaked ships in null-sec.

in my experience MWD's will get you killed more often in null-sec (from a covert-fleet standpoint). also the CPU required is inhibitive

Why? I live in nullsec and it's not feasible for every ship to have a cloak. Especially not most combat ships.

Would you mind explaining exactly what your experience constitutes? With respect, I have never heard of your Alliance and I question whether you speak from the perspective of someone who routinely lives in and fights in nullsec or from the perspective of someone who occasionally travels through nullsec with the intention of either avoiding combat or engaging only in very specific activities. If you are the latter, then, again with all due respect, your opinion and your experience is a little bit irrelevant to the points that are being discussed in this thread.

I just wanted advice on how to make a Rifter catch a competent stealth bomber.

F*ck the hero rifter use an insta cain.You can find the fit in the wiki.You will lock and kill them before they can do anything.Nothing pops a bomber like the insta cain.

i still say that they need to find a way to level out the cloak. there should be a way to keep them from shutting down systems by simply logging in and cloaking in a system.

I find it strange that everyone is so worried about keeping things on a level playing field untill it comes to cloaks. whats next a super dread that can kill everyone in eve with 1 shot from anywhere in eve?

either make a way to find them or take them out of the game.

i still say that they need to find a way to level out the cloak. there should be a way to keep them from shutting down systems by simply logging in and cloaking in a system.

I find it strange that everyone is so worried about keeping things on a level playing field untill it comes to cloaks. whats next a super dread that can kill everyone in eve with 1 shot from anywhere in eve?

either make a way to find them or take them out of the game.

i still say that they need to find a way to level out the cloak. there should be a way to keep them from shutting down systems by simply logging in and cloaking in a system.

I find it strange that everyone is so worried about keeping things on a level playing field untill it comes to cloaks. whats next a super dread that can kill everyone in eve with 1 shot from anywhere in eve?

either make a way to find them or take them out of the game.

Covops can't cloak if they're being targeted. Fit a sebo and arty. :tears: