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Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:00:00 - [1] Raises his beer Here is to the best vessel a captain could ever ask for. She served me well. I also thank all Hera's fans, friend and foe alike who've amazingly started donating ISK to fund her sucessor. No such action was asked of you and you have my thanks for doing so
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:02:00 - [2] Originally by: Gene Starjumper Originally by: Ange1 Edited by: Ange1 on 24/08/2007 23:36:18 How did this sad (or good depending on your opinion of us) news come to pass you might ask? It is perhaps a case of being stabbed in the back. The Establishment has been helping Ethereal Dawn escort Freighter convoy's through 0.0. Legion of Death are allies of ED and were told not to shoot at EST Ships. It seems though, that having seen our Capital Fleet in a previous engagement they set a trap for us and caught our convoy in a bubble. Naturally we jumped in our Capital's to defend the Freighters, but it seems backup arrived in the form of an RA Capital Fleet including a Titan. http://www.wearrsoyarr.com Our relationship with ED is purely for operational reasons. We are not in any way or form Allied with them. We have given ED an NAP at GoonSwarm's request. It is not my problem if you do not wish to notify ED's neighbors of your intent ahead of time - our policy has always been and will always be NBSI. It is unfortunate that this kill took place on an op with mutual friendlies, but EST showed up as neutral in our collective overview. They kill our merlins - we kill their carriers. They kill our Thanatos - we kill their Aeon. They kill our Tempest - we kill their Nyx. That is our retribution Official after action report comming soon. You were officialy informed on each run we did and likewise your guys acknowledged that we were working for ED and told us in local we wouldnt be hindered in anyway. That is the only reason we passed and the only reason we didnt blow your collective asses away the first time. Still that aside, good trap.
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:04:00 - [3] Originally by: Kathi Ohh no my LOVE is dead... Hey Bismarks marage vows still apply after death you hear me? Don't you go cheating on me now or Hera's ghost will come pay you a visit
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:07:00 - [4] Btw PLEASE guys, pace yourselves viewing the killmail. You are killing our server and public forums lol.
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:14:00 - [5] Originally by: KIATolon The only reason you lost your MS was because you choose to circle jirk over it. Hopefully next time you can keep your accomplishments low key. If by circle jerk you mean jump in to assist our allies and corp mates regardless of the potential risk, then by all means I jerked as hard as I could.
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:37:00 - [6] Originally by: Tbone Mucho respect to EST. Loved that ship and them guys. Never scared to jump hera into anything. Plus hera decided to pod me once just cause i cynoed her in and tried to get a ranis out of her. RAWTHORM!! I knew that would come back to haunt me
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 00:47:00 - [7] Originally by: violator2k5 Edited by: violator2k5 on 25/08/2007 00:45:09 much respect for actually using her in battle, she had a good run. Hopefully Hera II will live upto the name and be just as feared as her predasessor was (if you get another ofc) Oh we shall. It's a matter of when rather than if. MoM's aint cheap tho
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 01:10:00 - [8] Edited by: Rawthorm on 25/08/2007 01:11:12 Originally by: Orangir This. I think ED are blue to both Goonswarm and RA, but The Establishment has shot and continues to shoot us, so there's no conflict of interests here. If EST wanted to be set blue because they were working with our allies they should have contacted the diplomats of xDEATHx and RA, they didn't so they lost their mothership to them. There was no backstabbing. Take all the standings issues out of the equation, there was a good 60 seconds between the interdictor dropping a bubble on the convoy (which had ships blue to you in it) and the support arriving. During this time and throughout the following 15 minutes of combat, Ethreal Dawn themselves continualy informed you that the convoy was carrying Ethreal Dawn property. The fact you continued to engage shows COMPLETE disregard for your allies just to get a kill. Don't try and paint it anyother way because they all knew what the deal was with the convoy.
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 15:28:00 - [9] Edited by: Rawthorm on 25/08/2007 15:28:12 I do feel I need to clarfiy something here (despite that it wont change a thing) I'm not so much bothered that xxdeathxx and RA attacked us. We've ****ed off alot of people, as being a pirate tends to do that. Hera's eventual death was inevitable. What I am bothered about, is that they cost their own allies (Ethreal Dawn) considerable loss just to get a shot at killing Hera. They knew we had ED property on board yet they set us up and went ahead with it regardless. You can put all the spin you want on it but the fact remains you wantedly destroyed your own allies property to get to us, and with not so much as an apology or an offer of re-imbersement. THAT is what I have a problem with.
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.08.25 15:50:00 - [10] Originally by: Cefte Edited by: Cefte on 25/08/2007 15:39:10 Edited by: Cefte on 25/08/2007 15:38:23 Originally by: Rawthorm Edited by: Rawthorm on 25/08/2007 15:28:12 I do feel I need to clarfiy something here (despite that it wont change a thing) I'm not so much bothered that xxdeathxx and RA attacked us. We've **ed off alot of people, as being a pirate tends to do that. Hera's eventual death was inevitable. What I am bothered about, is that they cost their own allies (Ethreal Dawn) considerable loss just to get a shot at killing Hera. They knew we had ED property on board yet they set us up and went ahead with it regardless. You can put all the spin you want on it but the fact remains you wantedly destroyed your own allies property to get to us, and with not so much as an apology or an offer of re-imbersement. THAT is what I have a problem with. Originally by:** Ange1 Originally by: Zarimax Mishka What was in the freiters, precious? Nothing, it was our return trip so all Freighters were empty. Come now, if you're going to get angry, you might at least check that your own alliance members don't outright contradict you. Unless you're claiming that even though it was the return trip and you'd supposedly emptied out at your destination, you'd decided to keep some of their stuff? Maybe this ED property was just too shiny for you not to steal it Try the ships themselves and the gear Hera herself was carrying...

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