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Miss Fitz
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Posted - 2007.08.25 21:45:00 -
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heh, thought you'd seen the last of us last night. Well WRONG! We'll be making a return to Amoen VI Moon 3 fairly soon Say bye bye to POS!! Muahahahaha
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Saint Lazarus
C R Y O
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Posted - 2007.08.25 22:00:00 -
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Well now if ya DONT take teh POS down yous gonna look mighty stupid :P
so I hope it goes well YARRR and all that
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Kirex
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.25 22:15:00 -
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Edited by: Kirex on 25/08/2007 22:15:23 How many capitals are you bringing?
Edit: first part of my question was in your post. :P
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Ask Unbeatable
Gallente HighTech Marines Ltd. FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.25 22:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ask Unbeatable on 25/08/2007 22:16:58 IBTL Now if they take it down because they saw this post your gonna look mighty stupid
New video: Dont Ask 1 |
Miss Fitz
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Posted - 2007.08.25 22:19:00 -
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If you or anyone else wants to join us (REPO Industries/Research Unlimited/The Really Awesome Players/Royal Crimson Lancers) you're more than welcome :)
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.25 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Fitz Edited by: Miss Fitz on 25/08/2007 22:28:32 heh, thought you'd seen the last of us last night. Well WRONG! We'll be making a return to Amoen VI Moon 3 fairly soon Say bye bye to POS!! Muahahahaha
btw these guys are planning to abandon their station and flee to Lower Debyl in Amarr space. When you put pressure on the carebears, they always run away lol
Better make sure the POS goes pop. Hope this post does not come back and slap you in the face.
recruitment thread Join channel Hells Angels Inc
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Devian 666
Sectoid Technologies
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Posted - 2007.08.26 12:06:00 -
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You only need a hauler to take down a pos if you've infiltrated their corp as a pos manager.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |
Josh Causto
Gallente Fatalix Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.26 15:00:00 -
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Edited by: Josh Causto on 26/08/2007 15:01:26 If you are going to bash a corp at least post with your main. Kinda pathetic. And now that the whole world knows whats going down, I'm pretty sure some people are going to show up just to pew pew some dreads.
Originally by: Speed Devil
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem Everytime you fit anything other than a laser on our ships, babies die.
and when ya fit lasers on your ships nothing dies
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General Apocalypse
Amarr The Merchant Marines
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Posted - 2007.08.26 19:14:00 -
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CAn you post an Hour as well ? I got some friends that whant to join the "Tea Party"
Originally by: Jita Alt
DOH, you're right, i'm an idiot >_<
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Shozo
Pay Now inc
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Posted - 2007.08.26 19:53:00 -
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Yeah, picking on a corporation of mostly miners, industrialists, mission runners, and generally people that nearly never PvP...wow. Big men you are. lol. Not sure what you were expecting really...not much they can do except fold when they're not prepared or even expecting someone to GRIEF them. Should probably try picking a fight with someone that can actually fight back. Though I guess if this inflates your ego...
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Dianeces
Minmatar The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:34:00 -
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TRAPS would like to distance ourselves from the OP. We do not know this character and she is not one of our alts. This thread was created without any input or knowledge of TRAPS.
Respectfully, Dianeces Loyal TRAPS Memeber
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666 You only need a hauler to take down a pos if you've infiltrated their corp as a pos manager.
I like your style....
recruitment thread Join channel Hells Angels Inc
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Ironnight
Caldari x13
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Posted - 2007.08.26 20:49:00 -
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Its just a POS dude.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.26 21:07:00 -
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Funny how everyone always assumes corps like EMP are innocent and that everyone else is picking on them because they are a non-pvp corp.
What you won't hear is EMP saying the reason they were dec'd by my corp was because they stole from a kill of ours. We had popped a t2/faction Raven and an EMP member swooped in to gank the loot and got flagged to us.
He was caught and popped in his Mega, and when we told him we might pay his corp a visit, he didn't mind at all because they had 180 people and we had about 15 at the time.
Also keep in mind EMP never once tried to settle things diplomatically. They relied on their pure numbers to scare people off.
I constantly hear everyone telling us that "real men" go to low sec and live. These guys are in low sec. Shouldn't they expect PvP or war dec's when they have members smack talking and stealing from other people's kills? Or does the fact that they are rich carebear newb types make them above reproach?
They just joined The Crimson Federation under the guise of "TRAPS and Royal Crimson Lancers are picking on us for no reason! We did nothing to no one they are bullies! Please help!" They blatantly left out the fact they instigated our war with theft and smack talk.
So just as you say to the people hunting them, "Pick on a real corp that can fight back." Maybe they should stop starting fights with corps that like to fight back.
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Shozo
Pay Now inc
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Posted - 2007.08.26 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Nexa Necis Funny how everyone always assumes corps like EMP are innocent and that everyone else is picking on them because they are a non-pvp corp.
What you won't hear is EMP saying the reason they were dec'd by my corp was because they stole from a kill of ours. We had popped a t2/faction Raven and an EMP member swooped in to gank the loot and got flagged to us.
He was caught and popped in his Mega, and when we told him we might pay his corp a visit, he didn't mind at all because they had 180 people and we had about 15 at the time.
Also keep in mind EMP never once tried to settle things diplomatically. They relied on their pure numbers to scare people off.
I constantly hear everyone telling us that "real men" go to low sec and live. These guys are in low sec. Shouldn't they expect PvP or war dec's when they have members smack talking and stealing from other people's kills? Or does the fact that they are rich carebear newb types make them above reproach?
They just joined The Crimson Federation under the guise of "TRAPS and Royal Crimson Lancers are picking on us for no reason! We did nothing to no one they are bullies! Please help!" They blatantly left out the fact they instigated our war with theft and smack talk.
So just as you say to the people hunting them, "Pick on a real corp that can fight back." Maybe they should stop starting fights with corps that like to fight back.
Awesome. If this is true. Carry on. YARRRRRRRRR!!
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.26 22:23:00 -
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Oh it's true alright. But the Crimson Alliance people still insist we are either lying, doctoring screenies or something and claim we're looking for easy targets.
I'd say a small corp with 10 active players is a fair fight against a 180+ man corp based in low sec.
Of course since we are piratey types, we must be lying. I showed the Crimson alliance CEO the screenies, he said it proves nothing. Though how else could we kill his Mega in high sec?
Thief
Thief 2
The funny part was all he managed to scoop was a cap booster, I grabbed the faction gear a hair before he was able to.
He sat and talked crap in local for a while, cursing us out and what not.
So now we have 2 alliances dec'd against us for taking revenge on EMP. One is a supposed PvP alliance, oooh shiny, and the other is a carebear alliance that seems to be a larger version of EMP.
Let's see how "easy" TRAP's is for the approx 1000 members of those 2 alliances. :)
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Althalus Draconis
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Posted - 2007.08.26 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nexa Necis Oh it's true alright. But the Crimson Alliance people still insist we are either lying, doctoring screenies or something and claim we're looking for easy targets.
I'd say a small corp with 10 active players is a fair fight against a 180+ man corp based in low sec.
Of course since we are piratey types, we must be lying. I showed the Crimson alliance CEO the screenies, he said it proves nothing. Though how else could we kill his Mega in high sec?
Thief
Thief 2
The funny part was all he managed to scoop was a cap booster, I grabbed the faction gear a hair before he was able to.
He sat and talked crap in local for a while, cursing us out and what not.
So now we have 2 alliances dec'd against us for taking revenge on EMP. One is a supposed PvP alliance, oooh shiny, and the other is a carebear alliance that seems to be a larger version of EMP.
Let's see how "easy" TRAP's is for the approx 1000 members of those 2 alliances. :)
Funny how the second screen shot shows him having had tried to apologize and he was blown up anyway.
It is also funny how no attempt was ever made to contact the leadership of EMP to file a grievance.
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Regulottus
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Posted - 2007.08.26 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: Regulottus on 26/08/2007 22:52:47
Funny if this is true, since I am the CEO of EMP and this is the first I have ever heard of the theft. All I got from all of you that war Dec'd us is a bounty of 4 Billion...pay or die message. Kind of funny now that the alliance is in effect, you come up with this.
Even if this is true, the corp that this happened to should have come to me...first and formost. EMP does not support this type of behavior and he would have been removed. Talks are happening now within the leadership of EMP about this action since it has come to light.
Reg
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.26 23:10:00 -
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Our contact is in the form of a war dec. We prefer to fight first, negotiate second.
He wasn't sorry for stealing, far from it. He was sorry only because he got caught and lost.
I have no clue where you came up with a 4 billion surrender fee. We never ever mentioned 4 billion. That is way too high. You might have us confused with the Royal Lancer people or something.
We offered you 350mil to end all hostilities and you said you don't negotiate with terrorists. So that was the end of all negotiations on your part.
Considering your losses combined with your new alliances losses are over 1 billion already, it would've been a fair deal to settle. Instead you ran to your new alliance and got your friends in shiny to do your dirty work.
In fact, that should be the new theme song for alliances who harbor corps they know nothing about and it brings death and losses to the rest of the alliance.
So, I dedicate Steely Dan's Dirty Work out to all those "righteous" alliances who defend smack talking thieves who can't back up their actions.
Times are hard You're afraid to pay the fee So you find yourself somebody Who can do the job for free.........
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.08.26 23:26:00 -
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Epic battle in lowsec holy sh--
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Devian 666
Sectoid Technologies
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Posted - 2007.08.27 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Regulottus Edited by: Regulottus on 26/08/2007 22:52:47
Funny if this is true, since I am the CEO of EMP and this is the first I have ever heard of the theft. All I got from all of you that war Dec'd us is a bounty of 4 Billion...pay or die message. Kind of funny now that the alliance is in effect, you come up with this.
Even if this is true, the corp that this happened to should have come to me...first and formost. EMP does not support this type of behavior and he would have been removed. Talks are happening now within the leadership of EMP about this action since it has come to light.
Reg
CEO's making up storys and claiming to be a victim are boring and lack credibility. Put on a funny hat or something.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain. |
Maven Draconis
E.M.P. Industries The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.27 03:35:00 -
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I cannot speak for the corp as a whole, but I would much rather loose billions than pay anything to a corp that like TRAPS. As far as I am concerned, the scenario to start this was a setup. I have lost interest in this thread and will not even bother to read it any further.
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.27 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: Althalus Draconis
Funny how the second screen shot shows him having had tried to apologize and he was blown up anyway.
It is also funny how no attempt was ever made to contact the leadership of EMP to file a grievance.
you don't touch another man's girl, or attempt to then try to apologize!! It was not his loot he had no right even LOOKING at it.
"Where are you guys going in your battleships?" "We are going to camp in Amamake; kill 500 carebears and 1 NPC" "Why are you gonna kill an NPC?" "See, nobody cares about the carebears!" [BEES] |
Ess Erbe
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.27 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: Maven Draconis As far as I am concerned, the scenario to start this was a setup.
Because obviously, TRAPS would have someone load up a faction fitted Raven, blow it up with risk to the mods, and then wait for some random person to come by and try to steal the loot so they could wardec his corp.
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Kirex
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.27 03:50:00 -
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Crimson Federation are idiots. Have you guys had to honor of chatting with their diplomats yet? You'll love them.
Nexa, I'll refuse to read your upcoming story on eve-pirate unless you post your convo with Protocol3, striader, and YelowJack all in the same channel together.
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Celestal
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Posted - 2007.08.27 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: Nexa Necis Funny how everyone always assumes corps like EMP are innocent and that everyone else is picking on them because they are a non-pvp corp.
What you won't hear is EMP saying the reason they were dec'd by my corp was because they stole from a kill of ours. We had popped a t2/faction Raven and an EMP member swooped in to gank the loot and got flagged to us.
basically you are saying your corp killed someone and he stole the loot so got flagged to you? .
game mechanics are that he would be flagged to the pilot you killed and not to you ,
you are obviuosly lying
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port22
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.08.27 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Celestal
Originally by: Nexa Necis Funny how everyone always assumes corps like EMP are innocent and that everyone else is picking on them because they are a non-pvp corp.
What you won't hear is EMP saying the reason they were dec'd by my corp was because they stole from a kill of ours. We had popped a t2/faction Raven and an EMP member swooped in to gank the loot and got flagged to us.
basically you are saying your corp killed someone and he stole the loot so got flagged to you? .
game mechanics are that he would be flagged to the pilot you killed and not to you ,
you are obviuosly lying
If someone loots from a can, they are flagged to the corp of the person who owned the wreck/can. I confirm this with a gallente navy comet kill several weeks ago. He looted from one of our wrecks so i proceeded to open his frigate with both of my characters from the same corp.
Originally by: Temp Boi Port FTMFW Period.
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redialer
Minmatar The African Contingency Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.08.27 04:32:00 -
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ahah that sig sucked red1
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.27 04:35:00 -
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Originally by: Celestal
Originally by: Nexa Necis Funny how everyone always assumes corps like EMP are innocent and that everyone else is picking on them because they are a non-pvp corp.
What you won't hear is EMP saying the reason they were dec'd by my corp was because they stole from a kill of ours. We had popped a t2/faction Raven and an EMP member swooped in to gank the loot and got flagged to us.
basically you are saying your corp killed someone and he stole the loot so got flagged to you? .
game mechanics are that he would be flagged to the pilot you killed and not to you ,
you are obviuosly lying
Pay attention tard. We killed a faction Raven. I had no room in my cargo for the loot. Also, lots of people try to gank loots from wrecks, which is good for them because it doesn't flag them to the people who did the killing.
So I tossed out a can with 10 800 cap boosters, put the Raven loot in it, and swiped back the Raven loot. He came up and tried to take the faction gear but I beat him to it and he got a cap booster instead.
So he got flagged to us. He died. He talked crap. They have a war. They're losing the war miserably. The best part is, it's only going to get worse.
So try to put two and two together and have a bit of common sense.
I talked to one guy in Crimson, we popped his alt which was a t2/faction fitted armor tanked Drake. :) He was cool, I mentioned the EMP theft incident. I showed him pics, he grasped it for what it was. He felt they were a tad mislead by EMP. He said he would report it to the CEO head.
We killed the CEO's gang today, I mentioned it to him. He basically said the screenshots prove nothing. TRAP's are lying griefers who will learn a lesson from his PvP corp who enjoys fighting back.
As usual, it's the old "Pirates are lying, cheating, and griefing scum." line that they spew out.
I will have to agree on your comment about their leadership. First off, accepting a corp with 2 war decs is questionable at best. Then when you find out that corp lied to you and never mentioned the theft from the corp that dec'd them, you call the other corp liars and griefers. The CEO said he doesn't care how long the war goes. Too bad all his non-pvp alliancemates don't feel the same. A CEO is supposed to do what is best for the alliance as a whole, not do what he wants for the sake of his own enjoyment.
Keep an eye on that alliance in the coming weeks.
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Heartcarver
X Bane X
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Posted - 2007.08.27 04:59:00 -
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I'm not a pirate. Atm Im living as a high sec carebear since I don't have alot of time to play. That being said, go TRAPS lol. This whole thread was greatly entertaining, blow em all up ^^
"The point of war isn't to die for your country, it's to make the other bastard die for his" |
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.27 07:32:00 -
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I think REPO are kick a$$......unicorns too
although as a side note..I am not sure it is too smart to tell over a 1000 war tgts that you'll be visiting a POS on a certain day. Your liable to get quite a few caps droped on ya, unless it is highsec(at work so I can't be arsed to check)in which case you'd think they would have plenty of support. Would make more sense to take it out then post about it imo.
"Where are you guys going in your battleships?" "We are going to camp in Amamake; kill 500 carebears and 1 NPC" "Why are you gonna kill an NPC?" "See, nobody cares about the carebears!" [BEES] |
ValerinaDos
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:41:00 -
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What I find amusing is that even though TRAPS had every right to wardec EMP because that guy stole from you, TRAPS is still acting like idiots. I'm definitely not taking EMP's side, but don't put yourself up as white knights, either.
1) Nexa fully admits that she never told EMP why they wardec'd them. They just demanded payment after the wardec. "We prefer to fight first, negotiate second." C'mon, if an industrial corp just rolled over and paid any PvP corp when they got wardec'd -FOR AS FAR AS THEY CAN SEE, NO REASON WAS EVER GIVEN- they'd be broke.
2) Nexa accuses them of lying when they joined Crimson, yet EMP never knew why they got wardec'd because again, Nexa never told them.
3) Nexa accuses EMP of hiding behind Crimson, yet TRAPS hired someone else to take down EMP's POS before they joined Crimson. Hmm, hypocrit much? Oh, how'd that go, anyway? No one's said if its still up or if TRAPS actually took it down.
So again, let me say that TRAPS has every right to dec EMP because of the theft/smacktalk stuff. But instead of simply saying that's what happened, TRAPS misleads both EMP and everyone else as to how events actually happened, and does a pretty idiotic job of justifying it.
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Zieng
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:51:00 -
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Dianeces
Minmatar The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:56:00 -
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Edited by: Dianeces on 27/08/2007 13:57:52 Edited by: Dianeces on 27/08/2007 13:57:16
Originally by: ValerinaDos What I find amusing is that even though TRAPS had every right to wardec EMP because that guy stole from you, TRAPS is still acting like idiots. I'm definitely not taking EMP's side, but don't put yourself up as white knights, either.
1) Nexa fully admits that she never told EMP why they wardec'd them. They just demanded payment after the wardec. "We prefer to fight first, negotiate second." C'mon, if an industrial corp just rolled over and paid any PvP corp when they got wardec'd -FOR AS FAR AS THEY CAN SEE, NO REASON WAS EVER GIVEN- they'd be broke.
2) Nexa accuses them of lying when they joined Crimson, yet EMP never knew why they got wardec'd because again, Nexa never told them.
3) Nexa accuses EMP of hiding behind Crimson, yet TRAPS hired someone else to take down EMP's POS before they joined Crimson. Hmm, hypocrit much? Oh, how'd that go, anyway? No one's said if its still up or if TRAPS actually took it down.
So again, let me say that TRAPS has every right to dec EMP because of the theft/smacktalk stuff. But instead of simply saying that's what happened, TRAPS misleads both EMP and everyone else as to how events actually happened, and does a pretty idiotic job of justifying it.
1/2) EMP was informed of the reason for the wardec, it simply happened after the war went live, but before they joined The Crimson Federation.
3) TRAPS does not have any captial capable pilots. We drew on our close connection with Repo Industries, who do have capital pilots, to take down the POS.
Thanks for your concern.
Respectfully, Dianeces Loyal TRAPS Member
Edit: I speek gud Inglish.
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ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:42:00 -
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So, a war started over cap boosters - and now an entire alliance is dragged into it?
Cap boosters fuel the War machine.
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Tamash Maar
Amarr Leela's Lamas
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:55:00 -
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Kind of silly to let them know that you are coming to destroy their pos
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: ValerinaDos What I find amusing is that even though TRAPS had every right to wardec EMP because that guy stole from you, TRAPS is still acting like idiots. I'm definitely not taking EMP's side, but don't put yourself up as white knights, either.
1) Nexa fully admits that she never told EMP why they wardec'd them. They just demanded payment after the wardec. "We prefer to fight first, negotiate second." C'mon, if an industrial corp just rolled over and paid any PvP corp when they got wardec'd -FOR AS FAR AS THEY CAN SEE, NO REASON WAS EVER GIVEN- they'd be broke.
2) Nexa accuses them of lying when they joined Crimson, yet EMP never knew why they got wardec'd because again, Nexa never told them.
3) Nexa accuses EMP of hiding behind Crimson, yet TRAPS hired someone else to take down EMP's POS before they joined Crimson. Hmm, hypocrit much? Oh, how'd that go, anyway? No one's said if its still up or if TRAPS actually took it down.
So again, let me say that TRAPS has every right to dec EMP because of the theft/smacktalk stuff. But instead of simply saying that's what happened, TRAPS misleads both EMP and everyone else as to how events actually happened, and does a pretty idiotic job of justifying it.
1. It is not my job to inform people of why they are being dec'd. He got an email from Concord 24 hours before the war started. The entire corp did. Not a single person emailed/convoed me. Bad leadership on the EMP CEO. We've dec'd lots of corps, most of them will convo to see what's up and get the particulars.
As Dianeces said above, EMP was informed of the theft after the war went live and it was before they had joined Crimson alliance. They knew, but it's more like they choose to believe what they wanted to.
Again, just because they are an "industry" corp doesn't mean they should get any less slack when it comes to war.
2. See Di's statement and mine above.
3. We are not hiding behind REPO. Just like EMP isn't hiding behind oooh shiny alliance who has also dec'd us for "picking" on EMP. If they can bring friends to the party, so can we. I can assure you, our friends, much like EMP's friends are much deadlier than we are.
I don't think the POS came down. I think they repped it up after it was put into reinforced mode.
We have nothing to justify. War needs no justification. In this case, we actually had a reason. EMP knew why. They still joined an alliance. The alliance head didn't care. Now they're getting killed daily. All over a corp they had nothing to do with and never even knew as far as I was told.
CEOs/corps/alliances need to research and police their members. If not, someone else will do it for you. Stop blaming other corps for your problems. Blaming us for being griefers as the root of all your problems will never get you anywhere.
Your guy stole and smack talked, you got a war, you never attempted any diplomatic actions, you had your friends dec us and ran into an alliance which you thought could offer protection. We told your corpmate we would be decing you, he didnt care, since you had 180 members and we had 10% of that. He never mentioned it to the corp, bad on him. You got the war email and did nothing, bad on you. Crimson alliance let you in, bad on them.
If it helps you to sleep better, feel free to blame TRAPS. Call us griefers, lamers and whimps looking for easy prey as I am sure that's all we are to a lot of people, which doesn't bother me a bit.
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.27 15:17:00 -
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Caution: This thread is exceeding the parameters of C&P and is moving into CAOD territory fast.
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Doppler Shift
Red 42 Infinite Innovation
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Posted - 2007.08.27 15:25:00 -
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I am stupider for having read this thread. Agree with the poster above who says this garbage belongs in CAOD (if anywhere) -- I can't help but think that some poor bit here should have been a '1' vice a '0'.
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Dik Gosinya
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Posted - 2007.08.27 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Dik Gosinya on 27/08/2007 18:43:23 Edited by: Dik Gosinya on 27/08/2007 18:41:45 No matter how you sugar coat it, no matter how you say it or make yourselves out this is the hard facts of things. You war decced a almost total industrial corp in high sec, then went on to pay another corp to destroy their POS with no strategical advantage other than you can and without alot of fightback due to the fact they are industrials. Even if they fight back, it will still end up with the same result as most of their skills are in industry.
You are bragging on eve forums of how you managed to over power a industrial corp in high sec war and buy someone else's fire power to help you do the job. And possibly, just possibly you are making it out that you are the right and the powerful kick ass people who cannot be beaten?
Miss Fitz "when you put pressure on carebears they always run away lol" well er.....if your corporation had about 80% industrials and the combat ships you did have were mainly for mission running and were destroyed by blobs, not single people, blobs ofcourse you are going to retreat. They joined crimson, so the idea is they need someone else to defend them because yes thats right they are industrial, moving to lower debyl is so that they can carry on their lives.
You are digging a hole for yourselves, and in doing so decide to keep digging and by bragging you have effectively dug either a) a deeper hole or b) another hole altogether.
"they stole from a kill of ours. We had popped a t2/faction Raven and an EMP member swooped in to gank the loot and got flagged to us." "The funny part was all he managed to scoop was a cap booster, I grabbed the faction gear a hair before he was able to." So, the reason for this war is some randomer took a oppertunity to take from a wreck, so in by taking a harmless 1 cap booster.....1!!!! its not even a faction or T2 cap booster you decided to declare war and then proceed to destroy a otherwise innocent industrial corporation because you can? its not even their corp's fault, it was one guy in that corp...and now your bragging?
Those are the HARD FACTS of this matter, and as i said, no matter how you sugar coat it or say it, those are the facts and you cannot possibly seem the better and bigger out of this.
Yours Mr A. Alt
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Joeyboy
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.27 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: Joeyboy on 27/08/2007 19:27:01
Originally by: Dik Gosinya Edited by: Dik Gosinya on 27/08/2007 19:16:55
You war decced a almost total industrial corp in high sec, then went on to pay another corp to destroy their POS with no strategical advantage other than you can and without alot of fightback due to the fact they are industrials. Even if they fight back, it will still end up with the same result as most of their skills are in industry.
Hold up there a second! We got paid to hit that POS? Where's my cut???
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.27 19:49:00 -
[42]
There is no bragging. I never said "Woohoo we wtfbbqpwned the crap outta those mothereffers!!!!" I simply stated how things came about and how they are currently going.
I never said we were better morally, ethically, or strategically. I pointed out that they have members that steal and smack talk. I pointed out that they never attempted to negotiate. I pointed out they ran to their friends to have them dec us, and they ran to another alliance to have them help fight their battle. Nothing more, nothing less.
I was commenting also because someone mentioned that EMP was a "poor defenseless Empire" industry corp who never harmed a fly. Sorry but they are based in low sec. Somehow some people seem to think that should make them exempt from any non-consensual combat or attacks regardless of what they do to others.
Their POS must die because that generates cash and products for them, all which can be used to fuel a war against us. So you're saying when you're at war, you wont kill a POS or an enemy hauler you snag at a gate? Get real.
I don't have time to research how PvP ready a corp is before we dec it. We don't care. We don't mind losing.
Miss Fitz has nothing to do with TRAPS. We post with our mains. Unlike yourself.
Yes the reason EMP was dec'd was because their member took a hostile action against my corp. The amount of thievery makes no difference. Do you only kill an ore thief if he takes a certain amount of ore?
Why is it EMP should get cut any slack? They're an indy corp? They're newbs? C'mon, they got dec'd by a small corp with less than 10% of their members. That's a fair fight in my book.
No one is cutting us any slack. We're a small pirate corp with most members under a year old and lots with little to no PvP experience. We are fighting 2 alliances because of them. We're not complaining. Again, not bragging here either, just stating a fact.
One of them is a pure PvP 0.0 alliance with 500 members. Are they lame for decing us even though we never did anything to them? I don't think they're lame at all. I died to them earlier today. My t1 Thorax got popped by a Deimos, Hyperion and Cyclone. I'm not complaining. It was a lopsided fight, but we would have done the same.
EMP obviously cares nothing about any infractions it's members make. The guy who stole our valued cap booster is still an active EMP member. They took no action against him it seems.
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Dik Gosinya
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Posted - 2007.08.27 20:23:00 -
[43]
Points taken and thought about.
"No one is cutting us any slack." - well duh, your a pvp corp, no one should give slack to a corp that chooses to live by the sword, you all know the saying.
"they are based in low sec" sure, they are based in low sec, doesn't mean they are pvpers and can defend themselves against lots of pvpers, just means they are part of a few people who have realised you can make more money in low sec somtimes than high sec.
wont attack a hostile POS? no, when you put it like that my and my corp would probably attack a POS yes. Get someone else to do it tho and collect the credit for killing it? no, if we wanted it dead we would use battleships instead of hiring someone with dreads or carriers to do our dirty work for us.
"heh, thought you'd seen the last of us last night. Well WRONG! We'll be making a return to Amoen VI Moon 3 fairly soon Say bye bye to POS!! Muahahahaha" indeed, bragging.
lol, your kidding me? you are saying your prolonging the dec cause they smack and steal? first off it was indeed once and maybe the person is still in that corporation, let it go, tbh yea we would dec a person if they stole a significant amount of ore if you want it like that, nothing small that would be the size in any shape or form as a cap booster as you can make that money again in a very very small time. We dont dec every corp that ever steals from our cans or wrecks or we would be up in arms against half of high sec.... Who are you to accuse them of smacktalking? You are a experienced pvp corp who blobbed inexperienced industrialists in combat ships and you arent 100% free of smacking, i suggest you make your none of your members smack before claiming someone else is smacking and thats the reason you are prolonging the dec.
- Yours Mr A. Alt
P.S oh noes its a alt instead of a main, whatever will the forums do?!
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Wigglytuff
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:00:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Dik Gosinya
"they are based in low sec" sure, they are based in low sec, doesn't mean they are pvpers and can defend themselves against lots of pvpers,
Then they should stay out of lowsec.
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Malvorak
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:06:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Malvorak on 27/08/2007 21:08:45 Edited by: Malvorak on 27/08/2007 21:08:13 Edited by: Malvorak on 27/08/2007 21:07:49 Well mate if wont post with your main dont bother posting at all, i mean that pretty much tells us that the guy behind the alt is pretty much a coward and lacks character.
I have to say i have read some funny things about your last post that i would like to point out and generally talk about it.
..."no, if we wanted it dead we would use battleships instead of hiring someone with dreads or carriers to do our dirty work for us."...
Take a Large POS out with battleships? Dude think before you just start talking crap. And btw didnt they just hired 2 aliances to do their dirty work? hhmm makes you wonder dosent it? Two aliances with 1000 members combined to take a 11 active member corp...
..."You are a experienced pvp corp who blobbed inexperienced industrialists"...
Haha Blobed? Experienced? haha
Ho and btw i had to say something about this. ..."Funny if this is true, since I am the CEO of EMP and this is the first I have ever heard of the theft. All I got from all of you that war Dec'd us is a bounty of 4 Billion...pay or die message. Kind of funny now that the alliance is in effect, you come up with this."...
First off mate stop making things up we asked for 250M if im not mistaken. You know whats also kind of funny? Its that only now you shown your face to us. Since the war started you were ever hardly online and basicly you left all your members out to dry. If you actually cared about your members, if you actually cared about stoping this you would have known at least the exact amount that we asked for.
To finish things off, just would like to give a shout out to the oooh Shiny guys, they are briging up the fight with some nice sneaky trash talk free pvp.
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Shozo
Pay Now inc
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:17:00 -
[46]
This thread is awesome. Pure comedy. I think we've got like 5 different stories going here with variations of each. How about everyone stops posting and get on with your EVE lives? It's hilarious that this thread is even still going back and forth with people pointlessly commenting and/or defending arguments where there are no real facts. Just kill each other and get it over with already.
Anyone want some popcorn? It's got butter and salt and all the greasy goodness...
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:19:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Dik Gosinya
"No one is cutting us any slack." - well duh, your a pvp corp, no one should give slack to a corp that chooses to live by the sword, you all know the saying.
"they are based in low sec" sure, they are based in low sec, doesn't mean they are pvpers and can defend themselves against lots of pvpers, just means they are part of a few people who have realised you can make more money in low sec somtimes than high sec.
EMP is low sec based. They have a POS. The "safe" line of Empire has been crossed, they're in a potentially hostile environment. They should have a defense force at hand. It's not my fault if they dont. So why cut them any slack?
Originally by: Dik Gosinya wont attack a hostile POS? no, when you put it like that my and my corp would probably attack a POS yes. Get someone else to do it tho and collect the credit for killing it? no, if we wanted it dead we would use battleships instead of hiring someone with dreads or carriers to do our dirty work for us.
Well excuse us for lacking dread/carrier pilots. Why is it ok for EMP to bring two alliance friends to kill us but we can't bring a small capital enabled corp to aid us? So you're saying anyone who hires merc corps are lame? I don't get your reasoning.
Originally by: Dik Gosinya
"heh, thought you'd seen the last of us last night. Well WRONG! We'll be making a return to Amoen VI Moon 3 fairly soon Say bye bye to POS!! Muahahahaha" indeed, bragging.
Pay attention for once in your life. That comment was not made by me or anyone associated with my corp. Therefore, no we are not bragging. Again, we post with our mains at all times.
Originally by: Dik Gosinya
lol, your kidding me? you are saying your prolonging the dec cause they smack and steal? first off it was indeed once and maybe the person is still in that corporation, let it go, tbh yea we would dec a person if they stole a significant amount of ore if you want it like that, nothing small that would be the size in any shape or form as a cap booster as you can make that money again in a very very small time. We dont dec every corp that ever steals from our cans or wrecks or we would be up in arms against half of high sec....
So you're saying we're lame simply because we're not doing what you would do in the same situation? Maybe if you did war dec any corp that stole your ore, you wouldn't have many ore thieves because people would know you mean business.
Just because you don't mind people stealing from you and telling you to "**** off", doesn't mean we do.
Originally by: Dik Gosinya
Who are you to accuse them of smacktalking? You are a experienced pvp corp who blobbed inexperienced industrialists in combat ships and you arent 100% free of smacking, i suggest you make your none of your members smack before claiming someone else is smacking and thats the reason you are prolonging the dec.
Blobbed? We have a 26 man corp spread out across the world with about 10 active players. If you call a 4 or 5 man gang a blob, then you're an idiot who has no clue about PvP. Look at our killboard, you'd be hard pressed to find us blobbing anyone. We're lucky to have 5 people on at one time and none of em afk.
Again, why is the burden on me to find out how PvP ready a corp is? You're harping that they are an inexperienced industry corp. They're experienced enough to steal from a "experienced pvp corp" then they're asking for trouble.
Sure it was just one man, not the entire corp. That's not my problem, that's their problem. The initial surrender offer was 250mil. It escalated to 350mil to recoup the costs of capital supplies/ammo etc for the POS seige. 350mil is a small price to pay. The chances of them getting "picked" on again by other pirates are probably slim as I have yet to see a corp that we war dec'd and pay a surrender fee get dec'd by another corp anytime soon after ours.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:20:00 -
[48]
Cont.....
EMP had an existing war, which I have no idea what the catalyst behind that one was.
They could've avoided this war at several junctures. The first was recruiting pilots who aren't random thieves. The second would be to attempt to negotiate once the Concord warning mail went out. The third was when we sent an offer to them and were told "no way ever".
How do you know how experienced we are? As I said, half our members are brand new to the PvP game and have little to no experience in PvP.
Do you have proof that anyone in my corp smack talked? We pride ourselves on being civil. If you can prove this wasn't the case, I can assure you said player would be removed from corp immediately.
I never said we are prolonging the war due to smack talk. I said that's part of the reason the war began to start with. Please take the time to read things through. I never once mentioned we're extending the war due to smack talk. We're are you coming up with this stuff?
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Death4free
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:23:00 -
[49]
but pirates are lying thiefing scum otherwise they wouldnt b pirates
tbh i hope u all die so i can steal all ur loot
but man those pictures rly dont prove anything
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Dik Gosinya
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:26:00 -
[50]
Well mate if wont post with your main dont bother posting at all, i mean that pretty much tells us that the guy behind the alt is pretty much a coward and lacks character. - Political, if i were to use my main i would be up for all kinds of smack and comments that arent related to this issue and it would serve no purpose other than giving you material to say to me ingame.
..."You are a experienced pvp corp who blobbed inexperienced industrialists"... Haha Blobed? Experienced? haha - yes blobbed, cause thats all your corp does during war - experienced as in made for pvp and practices pvp more often than a industrial which would be inexperienced
Take a Large POS out with battleships? Dude think before you just start talking crap. And btw didnt they just hired 2 aliances to do their dirty work? hhmm makes you wonder dosent it? Two aliances with 1000 members combined to take a 11 active member corp... - ever heard the fact that numbers arent everything? not all of the alliances have taken up arms and charged towards you, you arent defending off '1000' people with your small corp. - Ok, i didnt know it was a large POS, thanks for correcting me, yes we wouldnt take a large POS with a BS fleet, it only makes sence.
First off mate stop making things up we asked for 250M if im not mistaken. You know whats also kind of funny? Its that only now you shown your face to us. Since the war started you were ever hardly online and basicly you left all your members out to dry. If you actually cared about your members, if you actually cared about stoping this you would have known at least the exact amount that we asked for. - If you cared for your members you will bend over and submit? to pay to pirates? what kind of thing are you smoking?
This thread is awesome. Pure comedy. I think we've got like 5 different stories going here with variations of each. How about everyone stops posting and get on with your EVE lives? It's hilarious that this thread is even still going back and forth with people pointlessly commenting and/or defending arguments where there are no real facts. Just kill each other and get it over with already. - We arent sitting at the pc refreshing the page you know ^^, we are occationally popping in to see if someone has posted.
If you want my honest opinion, quit docking when its a fair fight and fight, you wont attack 6 v 4, but you will attack 7 v 4.
- Yours Mr A. Alt
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Shozo
Pay Now inc
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:43:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Dik Gosinya This thread is awesome. Pure comedy. I think we've got like 5 different stories going here with variations of each. How about everyone stops posting and get on with your EVE lives? It's hilarious that this thread is even still going back and forth with people pointlessly commenting and/or defending arguments where there are no real facts. Just kill each other and get it over with already. - We arent sitting at the pc refreshing the page you know ^^, we are occationally popping in to see if someone has posted.
Yeah, I'm sitting at work periodically F5'ing this to see what bull**** is being spewed forth upon these pages. :) Keeps me sane while programming.
Seriously though...this thread is beyond saving...the term..."Beating a Dead Horse." comes to mind.
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Tigerfish Torpedo
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:53:00 -
[52]
Again, some of the facts are being overlooked in this war.
Firstly, as the head of CRMSN, I am the voice of the alliance involved. Therefore, I would like to place on record, that I had no idea of this 'theiving' which is the cause of this war. In fact, I was sent a screenshot to prove this act of theft, and it simply showed a Myrmidon moving towards a can (a TRAPS Myrm), and another neutral ship moving away. However, it doesn't really prove anything, as neither pilot was named, and the ownership of the can impossible to establish.
Secondly, I accepted EMP into the alliance as we had spoken with them, over a matter of some diplomacy a year ago, and they felt that they could approach me over this war. Their reason, as explained to me, was that this pvp corp (Traps) had war decced them simply because they could, and that "they were weak targets". Personally, I see my effort against TRAPS being one of gallantry.
Personally, my opinion is that TRAPS, as good as they are, need an ego boost. One which can only be gained by killing an inferior enemy. Furthermore, the comment of my lack of interest is inaccurate, but attempting to talk peace with a corp that demands 350 mil, seems a little like extortion to me, hence backing what I was intially told by EMP. Morale high ground is always so difficult to claim when you have a financial incentive over the outcome.
The current result of this war, is that we're losing, and that I won't deny. I could spend several hours smacking about strategy etc, but in truth, we have nearly 500 members, and TRAPS have 26. The odds are always in their favour, when you have a gorilla style warfare operation against such a large body. This war is being fought in TRAP's space, in space they all know. It is also worth mentioning that nearly every kill TRAPS has made, has been a gank. They never travel alone, and when they are outnumbered, never undock. This being common sense of course, and something which is a little harder to organise with near 500 men under your command.
Either way, that's the official CRMSN stance on this issue, and we'll carry on fighting, despite the odds being in TRAPS favour.
Regards,
Tiger. CRMSN Exec, CEO and FC.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:56:00 -
[53]
Yep we blob alright. 17 of the 35 kills against EMP and Crimson alliance were listed as solo kills. We had 2 fights that were like 6 vs 2 and a 7 vs 1. Where's the blobbing? The rest of the kills were all small engagements. We had a good one Sunday. Crow, Wolf, Myrm, Azaru and Domi vs Harbi, Curse, Ares, Vagabond and I think another frig type.
You're obviously linked to EMP or Crimson since you claim to know so much about all of our encounters.
If you cared for your members you would discuss a possible payment of surrender. Not giving them any option shows poor leadership in my book. If you cared for your members you would have tried to stopped the war before it went live or once your POS was in reinforced.
You're a typical instigating trash talker with no proof and no specifics. You claimed we smack talked, you claim we don't undock when it's a fair fight? Huh? What are you talking about?
Think I will log in when I get home and petition your name for sexual harassment.
You think those screenies prove nothing? It proves he somehow got aggro to us in high sec. We don't mine so he wasn't ore thieving. He saw the Raven was gonna die, he tried to gank some loot, he got caught.
Funny how people defend his actions.
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Tigerfish Torpedo
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.27 22:09:00 -
[54]
LOL, what? You high or something my friend? I can't believe Nerve sticks affect such immature minds so vastly :)
Your post has proved my point, and each and every loss we've suffered since EMP joined, is on our killbaord. We have nothing to hide, and you can see the kills there. Of course you never blob, 8 ships on one Drake? Indeed a fair fight, and inspiring victory :) I will not pay you a signle Isk for surrender, and I'm willing to keep fighting this until I personally have no ships left. And as I've taken no losses to you at all (personally), I doubt that'll happen anytime soon. :) Besides, it must be costing you what, 150 mil per week atm? Just think, if you didn't extend it, you'd have that Isk in no time at all ;)
Besides which, my leadership shouldn't be questioned. I can sleep peacefully at night, and to threaten petitions for anything you can't win, is lame, even by your tiny brain. I welcome your attempt however, as to petition me for sexual anything, would imply that we've at least spoken before. I await your next move. Of course, it'll probably be a blob, but if not, I'm sure you'll be able to find your dock button when we arrive :)
I bid you good day sir, although I'm sure those words are wasted on you, being how you're incapible of mature conversation :)
Tiger.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.27 22:56:00 -
[55]
Hehe, mature conversation coming from someone named Dik Gozinya. I've heard it all....
As far as the war fee, we got cash aplenty to afford 150mil a week. Which it's not. It's only 100mil unless the other corp EMP is fighting continues the war.
It puzzled me as to why you felt the screenshots had no merit. One shows him being engaged in high sec, the 2nd pic was me showing up late to the kill. You can see his wreck name and we are still in high sec.
How else could we have possibly killed him? Are you saying we fabricated the screenshots and killmail? Or are you saying we happened to just stumble upon his Megathrons wreck in high sec at a gate and decided to make all this up? Maybe your prior friendship precluded you to side with him, I don't know.
It's a pretty easy story to follow. We weren't at war with them at the time, we had never even heard of them at the time. We are located in Tash, they're way out in Verge Vendor. We much prefer targets closer to home tbh, but his thievery and subsequent smack talk garnered EMP a war dec.
That's nice that you offered to help them with their situation. It stinks that they didn't tell you about it before hand. They did indeed know. I wouldn't view your efforts as gallant though if you didn't consult your entire alliance before hand. I honestly think you and maybe EMP as well thought we might be scared off by an alliance ticker or something. Obviously, that's just my opinion.
It's obvious you took EMP at their word, and you seem to view anything we say as drivel. I spoke with your corpmate Iucha(sp) and we had a nice chat. He seemed to understand what the screenshots meant. I figured you would too. Apparently if you're not familiar with flagging/aggro mechanics it might be a bit confusing.
We definitely don't need an ego boost. I already blog on Eve-Pirate.com and my exploits are told on that site. I only commented here because people seemed to think the only reason EMP was getting picked on was because they were a "weak industrial and non-pvp experienced" corp. We had a reason. Whether you or anyone else feels the reason was valid or not is irrelevant really.
Once again, the "poor defenseless noob" description of EMP comes up. They got more money than we do. I know that much, they got 10x the manpower, they got a low sec homebase. How is that unfair. Again, we don't poll the corps we dec to see how PvP viable they are. We see 180 members and think "yay more targets!" and we saw both alliances are shootable we thought, "yay more targets!" even though we are vastly outnumbered in overall skills, cash and numbers.
I am disappointed you said we don't undock and all of our kills our ganks. Again, look at the killboard. I've been involved with 3 fights with you guys. One was initially a Drake and Eris vs my Myrm. I had friends show up, nothing wrong with that, just as you had my guys cornered until I arrived.
Just this morning I went into a system with 6 war targets. I sat and killed a Hulk and evaded a Curse, Domi, Jag, Cyclone and Geddon with my lil ol Thorax. When the Cyc warped he didn't engage. I scooped me some loot and warped out.
You said you weren't going to smack about tactics. You just did. I never fault people for not undocking when outnumbered or coming to fight with greater numbers. It's war, that's the name of the game. Win, not lose.
I do agree with you on the guerilla warfare though. It can be tough to hunt a small corp. Though I disagree on how hard it is to get organized to stop a threat. It would be easier if your entire alliance agreed on and was ready for war. Did you put it to a vote? Just curious.
Regardless, I enjoyed the fights I have been in against you guys. No smack talk is always nice. The real fun is just beginning though. Still, we are always open to negotiations should you change your mind.
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T'Renn
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.27 22:56:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Nexa Necis
stuff
I'm not ashamed to say it, but I think I'm falling in love with you. You had me at Steely Dan. --
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.27 22:59:00 -
[57]
Originally by: T'Renn
Originally by: Nexa Necis
stuff
I'm not ashamed to say it, but I think I'm falling in love with you. You had me at Steely Dan.
Crud, I almost shot soda thru my nose when I read that comment.
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Phated1
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Posted - 2007.08.27 23:03:00 -
[58]
wow...
this is eve corp/alliance argument at its finest!
i love it
more! more!
and use more big words! they make you sound smart!
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Tigerfish Torpedo
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.27 23:33:00 -
[59]
Ahhhh, well it seems there was indeed some confusion over the purpose of this war. Although I do not take offense at your suggestion that I do not understand agression mechanics etc, I do appreciate that the screenshot could be portraying the truth. However, as I wasn't there (it was way before we joined this war), it could mean anything and without proof I don't believe anyone's word over anothers. I have myself, in the past greifed miners, who then became agro'ed when retaking their own ore. Although those days are long behind me, it leads me to not believe a simple screenshot of a Megathron wreck. Besides, at the time we had no friendship with them, only a previous diplomatic talk with the previous CEO over a year ago.
I do once again find it interesting, however, that you chose to raise EMPs extensive wallet within your previous post ("They got more money than we do. I know that much"). Again, I'm finding it harder to believe that this war wasn't financially motivated, but again I'd only be trying to work everything out on pure speculation.
As a side note, I'm not Dik Gosinya (and although I believe I know his identity, he doesn't speak for CRMSN).
I can only apologise for your disappointment, but this makes the third night now (in an op as I write this) and have seen 3 members log off as we sit outside station. We had one Myrm undock, but as soon as we locked him down, he redocked up and just sat there. Of course, I could try to employ the same traps that you use, but with the neutral alts you use to scout ahead, there really is little point.
To be completely honest, It's kinda sad that you choose to attack me personally over this war, whereas I'm only questioning your motives behind the war. I actually enjoy a fight without smack too, but it's been let down by you here. As for any resolve, it'll never happen. I won't ever pay ISK to anyone that can show such disrespect.
Regards,
Tiger.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.28 00:05:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Nexa Necis on 28/08/2007 00:09:24 Edited by: Nexa Necis on 28/08/2007 00:09:11 You question my motives? I've explain the reason why I've dec'd them. Sure I wouldn't mind making a profit in addition to some kills. Why is it I am only entitled to one motive behind a war? I can war for any reason I like or for no reason at all.
Just because we're at war doesn't mean we undock when we stand no chance. That's called knowing your limitations, not being a coward or chicken.
However, since you're making fun of them staying docked or logging out while docked, I can expect your alliance will always undock when outnumbered/outgunned? What did you have the Myrm camped with? 2 frigs? Or was it a Vaga, Curse and somehthing else? Specifics would be nice if you're going to call someone a coward.
I don't fault people for not engaging unless they make comments that others are doing it in the sense that it's lame or something.
Let's see how you feel after the war has been on for 1 month.
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Tigerfish Torpedo
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 00:12:00 -
[61]
1 month? It'll fly by in no time :)
See ya in space, I guess. That is if you guys are up for ...... Meh, I'll leave the smack for now. Lets just say, that I hope for some nice fights.
Oh, and yes. I had a little play with 2 Myrms, 1 Drake, 1 Domi and a Arazu whilst alone yesterday :) Was fun actually, although they couldn't kill my little Vaga...
Tiger.
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isometricantaliac
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Posted - 2007.08.28 00:16:00 -
[62]
Hmmm I can't help but wonder why anyone would get on a forum and announce that they are going to take another corp/alliances POS down, the only reason I can think of is because they are trying to make a name for themselves. (Hell they might have done it because they think they were going to get a slap on the back from everyone, who knows and cares?)
Having said that if this is really over 1 x 800 Cap booster charge I can only think that someone already had intentions of war-dec'ing this corp and the booster theft is only a poor excuse that is being used.
Now I am not sure of the cost of a war-dec but I am sure it is a lot more than the price of 1 800 booster charge, then add the cost of ammo that will be required to kill the POS and possible ships that will be lost and this whole thing starts to cost a lot more than it is actually worth.
A 4 billion ISK ransom is a lot of ISK even for bigger corps/alliances so at a guess I would have to think that EMP may very well not have that much ISK that they can just throw away or *iss into the wind.
I guess when it all comes down to it if you were going to dec this corp anyway just do it rather than use 1 cap booster charge as an excuse because from where I stand that just doesn't justify what is now happening. The funny thing about all this is the person that actually stole the booster will end up loosing nothing more than the ship you already destroyed because he can just leave the corp and let the corp worry about all the other crap.
Anyway may the best corp/alliance win and may you all have plenty of fun doing whatever it is that comes out of this whole mess.
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Niron Werls
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.28 00:17:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Tigerfish Torpedo
We had one Myrm undock, but as soon as we locked him down, he redocked up and just sat there.
Sure did
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.28 00:25:00 -
[64]
Hehe, nice screenie Niron. You coward! How dare you not engage with those odds! Whimp! Puss! Scaredy cat!
Once again, it's all in the details. I'd love to see you undock with those odds and not redock and fight to the finish. Until you do, stfu.
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Tigerfish Torpedo
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 00:36:00 -
[65]
Following a course of insults, it ends with the dramatic climax of stfu. I'm actually impressed, sir. And once again, I did fight those odds last night, alone. I only broke off due to a suspected trap I believe you were trying to spring, along with the effect of that Arazu's dampeners. Now do I need to re-type the details of that fight, or will you attempt to read what I previously wrote, and save me the energy of trying to communicate with such limited intelligence? Anyhows, I'm about to head South, and carry on watching the undock ramp on some station :)
Oh, my respects to the Stealth Bomber pilot that I caught a little while ago. Nice to see some of you are capible of a fair fight with no smack :)
Regards,
Tiger.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.28 01:45:00 -
[66]
Tiger,
Thanks for setting me and everyone else straight. Much appreciated. I completely understand now. Only your side is allowed to camp gates and stations. Only your side is allowed to run from a fight. Only your side can use "traps" and such. My mistake there. Again, I apologize. We will stick to dying recklessly at every given opportunity.
As far as Dik Gozinya goes, it's a member of your alliance, it's obviously Silenthunter's alt. Class act there.
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Tigerfish Torpedo
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 02:06:00 -
[67]
Try to understand;
You're the aggressor in this war, not me. I had to pull my guys off their other operations just to come and "babysit" you guys in station :) Besides which, I never said you weren't allowed to do everything in your previous post. I just think you speak too highly of your own victories, when the outcome is hardly a surprise considering the gorilla tactics you employ. Sit in station when we're roaming, and hunt us when we're not. We've had three TRAPS run from us tonight, and considering you guys won't fight when we have even numbers, or even when you outnumber us 2:1, it's hardly a surprise that my guys view your pilots as cowardly. In fact, one even stood up for you until yesterday, when my Vagabond entered system alone (with no backup) and your 4 ship camp immediately ran to station and docked up. I've never once seen 2 Myrms, 1 Drake and whatever else it was run from a single ship. It was truly hysterical.
That said, I believe that Isometric's comment about your motives being lame, may have had some merit. Maybe you can begin to understand why I doubt your reason for this war is genuine. Screenshot of Megathron wreck, or not.
Either way, it'll be interesting to see how many haulers and barges we lose tonight, and how many hours we can camp you tomorrow. That's how it's been for 3 days, and I doubt you'll change tactics now. Not whilst you're so bravely beating up those little miners :)
Regards,
Tiger.
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.08.28 02:08:00 -
[68]
The POS? Is it dead yet?
Originally by: High Sierra note to self: dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.08.28 02:12:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Tigerfish Torpedo Try to understand;
You're the aggressor in this war, not me. I had to pull my guys off their other operations just to come and "babysit" you guys in station :) Besides which, I never said you weren't allowed to do everything in your previous post. I just think you speak too highly of your own victories, when the outcome is hardly a surprise considering the gorilla tactics you employ. Sit in station when we're roaming, and hunt us when we're not. We've had three TRAPS run from us tonight, and considering you guys won't fight when we have even numbers, or even when you outnumber us 2:1, it's hardly a surprise that my guys view your pilots as cowardly. In fact, one even stood up for you until yesterday, when my Vagabond entered system alone (with no backup) and your 4 ship camp immediately ran to station and docked up. I've never once seen 2 Myrms, 1 Drake and whatever else it was run from a single ship. It was truly hysterical.
That said, I believe that Isometric's comment about your motives being lame, may have had some merit. Maybe you can begin to understand why I doubt your reason for this war is genuine. Screenshot of Megathron wreck, or not.
Either way, it'll be interesting to see how many haulers and barges we lose tonight, and how many hours we can camp you tomorrow. That's how it's been for 3 days, and I doubt you'll change tactics now. Not whilst you're so bravely beating up those little miners :)
Regards,
Tiger.
The lifestyle of the "coward" or the overly cautious is often quite cheaper than the life of the "Lerooooy"
Also congradulations on flying the honda civic of eve *snip* Your signature was removed for being t3. Please email [email protected] with a link to your signature graphic if you have questions. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) |
Tigerfish Torpedo
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 02:14:00 -
[70]
No, the POS still stands.
Yes, the way of the coward is indeed cheaper :)
And LOL btw, at the Honda Civic remark :) Still giggling over that.
Tiger.
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.08.28 03:18:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Tigerfish Torpedo No, the POS still stands.
Well this thread was a waste
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T'Renn
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.28 03:26:00 -
[72]
I happen to think it's quite epic that this war was started over a single stolen cap booster 800. --
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Phated1
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Posted - 2007.08.28 07:22:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Phated1 on 28/08/2007 07:22:57 i think its amazing that this forum battle continues after its obvious neither side is going to achieve anything here!
edit: and who the hell is Miss Fitz anyway? didnt traps claim no knowledge of her?
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 08:21:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Phated1 Edited by: Phated1 on 28/08/2007 07:22:57 i think its amazing that this forum battle continues after its obvious neither side is going to achieve anything here!
edit: and who the hell is Miss Fitz anyway? didnt traps claim no knowledge of her?
She is my maid and ******* lover, leave her alone.
recruitment thread Join channel Hells Angels Inc
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.08.28 09:18:00 -
[75]
Perhaps the question you should be asking is "Who owns EMP industries, where does there isk go, where do the pilots who show any talent get harvested off to, and if you're in EMPIN; why the hell am I just a slave to these people?"
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Dukkai
Gallente E.M.P. Industries The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 09:35:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Gaven Blands Perhaps the question you should be asking is "Who owns EMP industries, where does there isk go, where do the pilots who show any talent get harvested off to, and if you're in EMPIN; why the hell am I just a slave to these people?"
spoken like a true ore thief....
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ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 10:11:00 -
[77]
Edited by: ApaKaka on 28/08/2007 10:12:03 I frankly don't see why either party has to sit on forums (and presumably in-game) and smack, lie and whine.
It's a legitimate wardec (any wardec is, whatever the reason), stfu and fight, show courtesy and give gf's!
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Dukkai
Gallente E.M.P. Industries The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 10:37:00 -
[78]
Originally by: ApaKaka Edited by: ApaKaka on 28/08/2007 10:12:03 I frankly don't see why either party has to sit on forums (and presumably in-game) and smack, lie and whine.
It's a legitimate wardec (any wardec is, whatever the reason), stfu and fight, show courtesy and give gf's!
signed....
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Jack Paladin
Gladiators of Rage Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 10:45:00 -
[79]
If this war will last more then two weeks nobody will know that emp or crimson existed. Nexia is not known for mining skills but for other stuff. Eve-search and google is your friend. Only reason i see about this forum war is to show alliance members that they still exist and bite back. But average moe,joe and liu who are loosing ships on daily bases will start thinking otherwise. |
Howling Jinn
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.
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Posted - 2007.08.28 10:56:00 -
[80]
wow awesome!! totally!!
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:00:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Dukkai
Originally by: Gaven Blands Perhaps the question you should be asking is "Who owns EMP industries, where does there isk go, where do the pilots who show any talent get harvested off to, and if you're in EMPIN; why the hell am I just a slave to these people?"
spoken like a true ore thief....
Why thank you.
Always funding PvP through PvP. No slaves or alts required.
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Dukkai
Gallente E.M.P. Industries The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 11:03:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Gaven Blands
Why thank you.
Always funding PvP through PvP. No slaves or alts required.
?? I'm not an alt...
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Raven Foxfire
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Posted - 2007.08.28 12:01:00 -
[83]
Hmmmm....... Industrial corp in low sec....... PvP corps in low sec.... Industrial corp that seeks safer enviroment [thats not "hiding" behind their alliance] in low sec.... Industrial corp that makes money through missions and mining.... People with good social skills and mission running skills.... People with good Deep Core Mining skills, and exhamuers 5...... Wouldnt't you EXPECT them to have at least one PvP corp in the alliance to help ortect them? Attacking the Industrial corp pos in war is a good strategy.... In case some one said it wasn't Cant produce ships for A)Missions and B) your pvp corp if you can't make money. Now on the other side. I stole ALL T2 loot from a wreck the moment I jumped to Urlen 5 days ago. Did I care if I got poded with Implants and my ship killed:no. Did the person kindly ask for his rightful wreck back ? :yes Did I sold it already.....Yes When he saw a Raven wreck "The person from EMP industries" He was probally thinking there could be some decent loot.... "I would too " Would he expect a lot of faction loot? Did you ever stop to think if he ever expected faction loot? But he sadly only got a cap booster "Not good wreck stealing on his hand" After he got killed... he could of silently left and acted like nothing happened So... Long story short! Can anyone tell me where the big juicy high sec T2 fitted wrecks are
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ApophisXP
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Posted - 2007.08.28 12:03:00 -
[84]
These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corporation. |
Raven Foxfire
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Posted - 2007.08.28 12:04:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Tigerfish Torpedo No, the POS still stands.
Yes, the way of the coward is indeed cheaper :)
And LOL btw, at the Honda Civic remark :) Still giggling over that.
Tiger.
I "GOD" here by declare this thread...... In the famous words of State War Academy.... OMGWTF PONIED
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DarthMopp
Gallente I.O.S. - I.D.I.O.T.s in outer Space
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:05:00 -
[86]
If i donate 1 800-CapBooster can this silly war end then ?
You can contact me ingame :)
Entertaining thread for my personal downtime (10am to 6.30 pm...called "work")
Keep em coming !
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Karl Mattar
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Aunni Ti Tsuun Consortium
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:11:00 -
[87]
You know, all of you EMP supporters, you can say what you want about TRAPS, but they bring the proof to the table. You may not like it, but anyone with half a brain can see what happened here.
If you are telling me that a 1000 member alliance can't handle a small roving gang of war targets, then Torpedo you have absolutely no business bringing an alliance outside of a starter system. Mining veldspar in 10.0 security is more your style, apparently. Get off your high horse and pay them off already. It's obvious you can't defend yourselves. You are going to be found by many more pirates now that the word i out - you are in low sec and defenseless
Finally, anyone who can't read those screenshots and see what happened is clueless about game mechanics. It doesn't matter if you steal 1 booster or Estamel's modified whatever, you a) flagged yourself to a PvP gang like a stupid idiot, and b) drew the attention of a motivated PvP corp known for taking offense and doing something about it. Not knowing your enemy is bad enough, but getting all righteous about your own mistake is plain stupid. Pride kills.
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:20:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Dukkai
Originally by: Gaven Blands
Why thank you.
Always funding PvP through PvP. No slaves or alts required.
?? I'm not an alt...
Well after DT, you can get back to slaving then.
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Tigerfish Torpedo
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 13:47:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Tigerfish Torpedo on 28/08/2007 13:50:17 Hey Karl,
As a point of interest, I request that you too learn some facts before picking a side, and flaming the other.
CRMSN stands at 500 members, not 1000. The 1000 man alliance that is at war with TRAPS, is a second alliance named Ooh Shiney, and I do not speak for them. Try getting things straight before making suggestions on issues to which you have no business, nor clue.
As a second matter, we are not hiding, nor will we surrender. I do not consider any action I've taken with regards to EMP to be a mistake either. We are fighting these guys when they give us the chance. This war is still young, there's plenty of room for the result to shift a little.
Good day,
Tiger.
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Dukkai
Gallente E.M.P. Industries The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:52:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Gaven Blands
Well after DT, you can get back to slaving then.
U kidding? I'm gallente, not minmatar... :)
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Tigerfish Torpedo
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:57:00 -
[91]
The fee is extortion, plain and simple. Make it the price a single 800 cap booster, I'll maybe consider it. Also, don't forget that this theft happened before I had any connection with EMP.
Already not motivated to pay the fee they ask, my PVPers were bored and are enjoying this war. I'm happy to let it run its course.
My interaction only began on this board, when our enemy started attacking me personally. Knowing how the forum vultures always side with whoever starts the smack talk, I wanted to make my personal stance known, and that of my alliance.
Tiger.
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KapnKaboom
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Posted - 2007.08.28 14:59:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Tigerfish Torpedo No, the POS still stands.
Yes, the way of the coward is indeed cheaper :)
And LOL btw, at the Honda Civic remark :) Still giggling over that.
Tiger.
The station still stands? Well, that settles it. Epic FAIL on their part. Given that they can't follow through on their initial promise, I'm guessing you'll have little trouble with them Tiger. Have fun BBQing them!
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Tigerfish Torpedo
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 15:00:00 -
[93]
But, just to clarify, as I re-read the post by Karl;
""If you are telling me that a 1000 member alliance can't handle a small roving gang of war targets, then Torpedo you have absolutely no business bringing an alliance""
I didn't bring the 1000 man alliance, and yet that little insult was aimed at me (by name).
Regards,
Tiger.
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Shozo
Pay Now inc
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Posted - 2007.08.28 15:21:00 -
[94]
Everyone needs to just shut up. This thread at this point is the opposite of intelligent. Both parties involved here are spewing forth such utter crap it's hilarious. So, I guess in the spirit of humor...carry on so my work day can be amused by the stupidity of this thread.
Seriously though...TRAPS has it right...loot theft aside...they DO NOT need a reason to war dec anyone let alone EMP. So, any arguments in that regard are completely irrelevant. The smack talk and constant defense on both sides of this is making everyone look like fools. Just shut up. Let your fighting do the talking and quit with the useless forum fighting that's just making you all look like 5 year olds. If any of you think that this is casting a positive light on your corporation, alliance, or members...you're very poorly mistaken. I seriously doubt anyone is reading this thread thinking highly of either side of the argument. And Tiger...you're an Alliance executor...why oh why would you even bother posting here in the ways that you have? It's weak and poor leadership(from both parties). Just shut up and put up.
YARRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tigerfish Torpedo
Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.28 15:23:00 -
[95]
You raise a good point, and I shall do just that. This will be my last post here, until such time as I deem another attack personal.
Good day to all,
Tiger.
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dralid
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.08.28 15:50:00 -
[96]
Cba to read the whole story, so is the POS dead or not? -- Where do the wild roses grow? |
Drama Kirlan
Gallente Rush Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.28 17:41:00 -
[97]
Oooh I know EMP.They tried exactly the same to my old corp Dichotomy. Smack talking, piracy and theft and then cried their backsides off when we dec'ed them shortly followed by them joining Rougue Method Alliance. Shame we dident have the funds to carry on the alliance dec
Go guy's give em hell
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Solid Wilko
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.08.28 18:14:00 -
[98]
So they come to the forums and post about killing a POS but then fail to kill it?
Utterly Pathetic
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Karl Mattar
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Aunni Ti Tsuun Consortium
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Posted - 2007.08.28 20:27:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Tigerfish Torpedo Edited by: Tigerfish Torpedo on 28/08/2007 13:50:17 Hey Karl,
As a point of interest, I request that you too learn some facts before picking a side, and flaming the other.
CRMSN stands at 500 members, not 1000. The 1000 man alliance that is at war with TRAPS, is a second alliance named Ooh Shiney, and I do not speak for them. Try getting things straight before making suggestions on issues to which you have no business, nor clue.
As a second matter, we are not hiding, nor will we surrender. I do not consider any action I've taken with regards to EMP to be a mistake either. We are fighting these guys when they give us the chance. This war is still young, there's plenty of room for the result to shift a little.
Good day,
Tiger.
My apologies, Tiger. You are correct, I was mistaken on who had the numbers. A 500 man alliance has much less of a chance against a small roving gang of war targets than a 1000 man alliance.
Pay the man. Hell, I'm anti-pirate, and even I can see the writing on the wall. Get it over with and you will make it back in a day or two of hardcore mining.
This post isn't even intended as a flame, though I'm afraid you might take it that way anyway.
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Miss Fitz
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Posted - 2007.08.29 00:04:00 -
[100]
This was a 180 man corp, which after a few days of war is now down to under 100 people. They are a prime example of **** poor management and lack of discretion when recruiting. As usual, they ran, hid quit corp, smack talked and now joined an alliance and also had another alliance dec us for good measure. It just reflects on the character of its founder and the current CEO imho
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Vandamsel
Gallente Dark Star LTD Dogs of War.
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Posted - 2007.08.29 11:26:00 -
[101]
Originally by: dralid Cba to read the whole story, so is the POS dead or not?
noope
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RyoukoBoi
E.M.P. Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.29 14:53:00 -
[102]
WOW
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Tenacious Kitty
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:39:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Phated1 Edited by: Phated1 on 28/08/2007 07:22:57 i think its amazing that this forum battle continues after its obvious neither side is going to achieve anything here
Flame wars continue because everyone thinks that they can get the last word in and deliver the "killer blow".....not on a forum with at least a hundred members you can't
Originally by: T'Renn I happen to think it's quite epic that this war was started over a single stolen cap booster 800.
quite.....its going into the EVE encyclopedia dramatica article
remember everyone - EVE ONLINE IS SERIOUS BUSINESS
TK
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:49:00 -
[104]
Originally by: RyoukoBoi WOW
Funny, all of this is happening because you stole a cap booster.
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2007.08.29 21:09:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 29/08/2007 21:09:00
Originally by: Nexa Necis We offered you 350mil to end all hostilities and you said you don't negotiate with terrorists.
zomg i had to stop to read right there. i think im laughing or something.
please blow them up several times for quoting the monkey in the white house.
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RyoukoBoi
E.M.P. Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.30 00:33:00 -
[106]
i just found out all the things that had happened today lol
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port22
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.08.30 02:00:00 -
[107]
I was in a corp that was at war with EMP. I left this corp because of an internal argument that had nothing to do with any invovled wars. To my knowledge 5 dreads plus support turned up and put the EMP pos into reinforced mode. Why was the pos not finished off the following day?
Originally by: Temp Boi Port FTMFW Period.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.30 02:39:00 -
[108]
Port22,
I am not sure. I really wasn't interested in the POS popping, but a few corpmates wanted it down so our friends in REPO offered to help. I believe they had 2 POS's, and subsequently took one down. REPO/TRAPS put it into reinforced but weren't able to follow through on its demise.
Though some good news is their alliance has shown the first signs of *****ing.
2007.08.29 22:21 The war between Lonely Maple Prospecting Group and The Really Awesome Players is coming to an end. Lonely Maple Prospecting Group has surrendered to The Really Awesome Players. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
One corp is out. More will follow or I'm thinking they all will retreat to their 0.0 space to let the people with sovereignty fight the battles for them. Kind of like EMP did with them.
EMP players have been non-existent from our killboard this week strangely. Though the rest of the alliance seems quite active and more than happy to mine in their easily destroyed Hulks. I even caught one guys mining Osprey AFK at a gate this morning. 3 of the best named cargo expanders was his gift to me.
Sad to say though their alliance constantly smack talks after every loss. We probed a guys Incurus out who was AFK and flying 2k m/s in a random direction. I got my Inty and snagged him. He sat and trash talked the kill in local. Then convo'd me to ask my strategy. WTF? Another pilot just lost his Myrm and he said that they're asking my corp for 1 vs 1's and we're declining them and refusing to engage in "fair" fights.
These guys are a barrel of laughs. I can't wait to post my story on Eve-Pirate.com. Be sure to look for it in the coming weeks.
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port22
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.08.30 04:34:00 -
[109]
I have to say its rather dissapointing the pos was not popped considering the OP's premature claim that the pos was indeed going to be coming down.
Right now I really have no reason to want it down or up, but if your gunna make threats on forums 'Miss Fitz' and friends, it would be good to follow through with those threats or risk looking stupid to your enemies and future potential targets.
That said I have no love for EMP or their new alliance buddies. Personally i think the CEO of EMP's new alliance has shown just how much of a tard someone can be on the forums. Nothing personal 'tigerwhoeveryouare', your posts reflect this as fact not fiction.
Originally by: Temp Boi Port FTMFW Period.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.08.30 05:20:00 -
[110]
Keep in mind Miss Fitz has nothing to do with TRAPS. We never made such a claim/boast. We especially wouldn't post it here or anywhere advertising it.
Personally, I think it was one of their alts to entrap people into stopping by or something.
I was kinda bummed it wasn't completely blown up, but oh well. There's always tomorrow.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Revelation Space
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Posted - 2007.08.30 11:07:00 -
[111]
...and in other news, blasters don't kill people. Piwats do.
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