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TornSoul
BIG
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Posted - 2007.08.27 04:32:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 27/08/2007 04:35:22
BIG will once again host betting for the Alliance tournament.
This time the 4th Alliance Championships (AT4)
The AT4 website is now live, and you can start making your bets!!!
So - What excactly do we offer?
We offer the standard "bet on the team you think will win overall", but also a range of other bet types We even offer "late entry" bets, which is bets made *after* the tournament has started!
- Who will win overall (early entry).
- Who will win overall (late entry).
- Who will make it to the semifinals (early entry).
- Who will make it to the semifinals (late entry).
- Who will win a particular group (early entry).
- Who will make it to round 2 (early entry).
(The two best of each group goes through to round 2)
Bets have to be made before round 1 starts (2007.08.31 15:00) Bets have to be made before round 2 starts (2007.09.09 15:00)
On the site you'll among other things find the "Bet Calculator", making it a bit easier to determine excactly what to put in the infobox when you transfer your ISK to BIG Games.
Make sure to use it, if at all in doubt about what to enter in the infobox. Updating of bets is done automatically via the EVE API, so the text entered needs to be spot on for the program to recognize it. Any mistake and your bet will be treated as a donation - Thank you very much!
On the site you will also be able to see the bets already made! (look for the link on the "Betting" page)
Apart from the betting we naturally also supply the full schedule for the tournament (which is sortable by group and time!), and group makeups.
Lots of info there - And all in one place!
Go have a look around.
BIG Lottery [url |
TornSoul
BIG
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Posted - 2007.08.27 04:33:00 -
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Reserved BIG Lottery [url |
Attak
Trioptimum FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:09:00 -
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Spoiler: FREGE will win.
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.08.27 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: Attak Spoiler: FREGE will win.
I believe Frege is the alliance that left a pos unanchored for us to steal. The ones who left a carrier in the bubble without a shield pw or set to shoot at all. The ones who warped a carrier into our camp fit with expanders. If Frege wins ill give away 1 bill isk. -------------------------- Piwate Bunny Wuv
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.08.27 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Zaethiel If Frege wins ill give away 1 bill isk.
Dibs.
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Zaethiel
Originally by: Attak Spoiler: FREGE will win.
The ones who warped a carrier into our camp fit with expanders.
The tractor beam was a good idea though.
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Kreul Intentions
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.27 13:20:00 -
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Off-topic postings removed. Please stay on topic or refrain from psoting.
Thank you.
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.27 14:56:00 -
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how does the site work what odds will there be and how will odds be showed?
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TornSoul
BIG
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Posted - 2007.08.27 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Nyack how does the site work what odds will there be and how will odds be showed?
Theres no odd's as such.
Think of it like a pot where everyone puts in their ISK, and the winners split the content (minus a 10% admin fee).
BIG Lottery [url |
Imperius Blackheart
Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.27 23:09:00 -
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Excellent stuff, thanks :)
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.28 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Nyack how does the site work what odds will there be and how will odds be showed?
Theres no odd's as such.
Think of it like a pot where everyone puts in their ISK, and the winners split the content (minus a 10% admin fee).
isnt that odds? couldnt you setup the site to calculate that? i think it would attract alot more traffic to your site if it had odds showing.. maybe not on all but atleast for a few categories
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.28 06:45:00 -
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it might be hard to calculate for the categories taht will have mutliple winners like who will make their group etc.. but for overall winners it should be fairly easy?
i bet there are soem math geeks here on teh forum that cn help to figure it out =)
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TornSoul
BIG
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Posted - 2007.08.28 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Nyack it might be hard to calculate for the categories taht will have mutliple winners like who will make their group etc.. but for overall winners it should be fairly easy?
i bet there are soem math geeks here on teh forum that cn help to figure it out =)
It's easy enough to do.
The problem is that it will change each time a new bet is made.
So when you win, the odd's might be different than when you made the bet. This will probably be more confusing - Not to mention I'll be getting alot of mails about "The odd's where higher when I made my bet" (those in the opposite camp ofc never complains :-) )
The current listings on the website should give you a rough idea about who are the betting favorites etc.
BIG Lottery [url |
TornSoul
BIG
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Posted - 2007.08.28 20:16:00 -
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I've added group letters to the Bet 5 listings.
Maybe that helps a bit?
BIG Lottery [url |
Nyack
GREY COUNCIL Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.28 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Nyack it might be hard to calculate for the categories taht will have mutliple winners like who will make their group etc.. but for overall winners it should be fairly easy?
i bet there are soem math geeks here on teh forum that cn help to figure it out =)
It's easy enough to do.
The problem is that it will change each time a new bet is made.
So when you win, the odd's might be different than when you made the bet. This will probably be more confusing - Not to mention I'll be getting alot of mails about "The odd's where higher when I made my bet" (those in the opposite camp ofc never complains :-) )
The current listings on the website should give you a rough idea about who are the betting favorites etc.
isnt that understood.. people having some clue on betting knows that odds cahnge until the betting is closed.. internet betting sites and poker sites made it more public knowledge.. i think it would add some freshness to EVE-tv aswell if the commentators knew the currents odds on the matches?
or atleast when the betting is closed u can update with odds?
could atleast have it for tournament overall winners and tournament overall winners (late entry)
would be awesome to bet on your site and go watch it after i made the bet to see what the odds are.. something more for me to do while at work =)
this would make it worth while to visit your site more and see what the odds are and maybe get tempted to bet even more =) a reason for gamblers to revisit your site
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QwaarJet
Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.08.29 00:00:00 -
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I still don't see any money put on us......Spiral where are you?
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.30 00:16:00 -
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Displaying the odds in a X to Y format once the betting is closed would be cool. Would be an interesting something extra for the presenters to talk about.
And I've placed my bet --------
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TornSoul
BIG
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Posted - 2007.08.30 21:02:00 -
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Odds has been added to the listings
BIG Lottery [url |
Lunara Yoshi
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.31 07:01:00 -
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I suppose you will try an update as soon as the 'early entry' line is crossed? The betting seems a bit more timid than last time around.. not too much advertisements either..
Oh well, I put some cashz0rs in, now everybody just has to be on the other guys and the guys I bet on have to win and ... lol :) hf all
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DTee
The Huns
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Posted - 2007.08.31 10:04:00 -
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Edited by: DTee on 31/08/2007 10:11:38
Hi TornSoul,
Excellent way to make the tournament interesting. I definately agree, Odds would be great. After the bets have closed! Thanks for this hope it makes you lots of iskies
edit: Odds are being shown now, Great work!
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.31 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul Odds has been added to the listings
Heh, the guy who bet on R0ADKILL could be in for a big payout. They're one of the favourites, and theres only 1 bet on them at 239,50. That means (if I understand it right) that if they get through, that person wins some 200 million isk ------
Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts! |
Slash Harnet
Minmatar Industrial Services INC
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Posted - 2007.08.31 14:23:00 -
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Is the AT4 website down? I've already bet, just wanted to see the odds.
signature removed ... Pirlouit I finally got my sig nerfed once, I feel like a forum warrior! |
TornSoul
BIG
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Posted - 2007.09.02 00:01:00 -
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Just a quick FYI : It is still possible to make bets (bet type 2 and 4), even though the tournament has started.
Bets can be placed until 2007.09.09 15:00 on Bets 2 (Overall winner) and bet type 4 (who will make it to the semi finals) BIG Lottery [url |
Imperius Blackheart
Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 10:06:00 -
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How often is the bets overview page updated?
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TornSoul
BIG
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Posted - 2007.09.02 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Imperius Blackheart
How often is the bets overview page updated?
Every 65 minutes - Via the EVE API interface.
Once in awhile "something" happens to break the update cycle however. I'm at a loss as to why this is - I've been trying to find the bug for over a month... (it updates the BIG Lottery as well).
So sometimes it can be more than the 65 minutes...
Right now I can see it has stopped - So I'll have to give it a kick to get it up and running again BIG Lottery [url |
TornSoul
BIG
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Posted - 2007.09.02 14:24:00 -
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It apparently bears repeating that only bets 2 and 4 are still open.
I can see in the wallet export that people are still putting down other bets as well.
These bets will *not* be refunded, but treated as donations - to the BIG Lottery.
BIG Lottery [url |
Imperius Blackheart
Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul It apparently bears repeating that only bets 2 and 4 are still open.
I can see in the wallet export that people are still putting down other bets as well.
These bets will *not* be refunded, but treated as donations - to the BIG Lottery.
I know I was tired when put in my late bets, but it wasn't me was it?
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul It apparently bears repeating that only bets 2 and 4 are still open.
I can see in the wallet export that people are still putting down other bets as well.
These bets will *not* be refunded, but treated as donations - to the BIG Lottery.
Disable those options on the drop-down bet calculator, or better yet, have anyone selecting those options be subject to big, red, "You're an idiot" text.
To clarify: not that it was me. And, IMHO, the "stupid tax" should go to offset the 10% fee on the winners' earnings, not to the unrelated BIG Lottery.
--P
Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. |
TornSoul
BIG
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Pilk And, IMHO, the "stupid tax" should go to offset the 10% fee on the winners' earnings, not to the unrelated BIG Lottery. --P
The same wallet (the one of BIG Games) is beeing used for both the BIG Lottery and the AT4 betting.
It's simply easier to default payments to BIG Lottery donations - As I (the program) can't tell the payments apart if they dont follow the rules (for how to enter a AT4 bet)
BIG Lottery [url |
DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.09.03 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: DHB WildCat on 03/09/2007 01:27:51 Hoping you can help with my bet. I accidently sent a 100mil bet before the tourny started to BIG GAMES or whom ever it was but forgot to add my AT4-140. I immidiately sent a 1 ISK bet with the corrected AT4-140 and a mail with my apologizes for the mistake. Can you confirm my bet since I do not see it on your betting overview? If it is invalid Ill retract my bet.
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