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CCP Abraxas	Posted - 2007.08.27 15:03:00 - [1] Welcome to Black Mountain. Black Mountain, or BM for short, is a long story that I'll be publishing in serial form on a biweekly basis. I expect it to end in April or May of 2008, after which we'll return to the usual type of solitary chronicles. The very first installment is called "On This Earth" and introduces its protagonist to a dangerous and alluring organization. The next installment comes out in two weeks' time, on Monday September 10. BM has two main characters, one of whom is a good person and one of whom is not. In time, this may change. The story is about personal freedom, and doing good things for bad reasons, and doing bad things for good reasons, and how people handle trauma and setbacks. It is also about temptation, and power, and what might have happened if a known historical character had fallen for a famous temptation. And, since this is me writing, it is about blood and violence and ducklings. You heard me. Be aware that BM's two main characters have already appeared in my chronicles, and I strongly recommend that you read " Post Mortem" before reading today's chronicle. For those of you who want to be fully prepared for the, you can also read " The Greatest Joke", which introduces BM's other main character. It's been a strange and difficult story to write. I hope you enjoy it.

Victor Valka Caldari Archon Industries	Posted - 2007.08.27 15:39:00 - [2] I fear for the sanity of your readers, Abraxas. Me? Don't worry, me and I will be just fine.
Big Pick Caldari Task Force Ranger	Posted - 2007.08.27 16:51:00 - [3] Two weeks! How am I supposed to wait two weeks for that which brings me to rapture?! Blast! I never should have read this first installment. Now I am doomed to inexorable biding. ===============================
Kyoko Sakoda Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.08.27 17:50:00 - [4] Ooh, sir. I must say that I am intrigued.
Freyya Axe Gang	Posted - 2007.08.27 18:43:00 - [5] Edited by: Freyya on 27/08/2007 18:44:15 very intriguing indeed... I assume the well dressed man we get to meet in this story is not the despaired and severely ill man we got to meet in The Greatest Joke? If he is he sure did undergo a tremendous transformation...to the readers eye at this moment though... I cannot wait to read the second installment as this opening piece has left me wanting... One thing i do wonder though, did you plan on PM and TGJ to be the prologues for the main characters in BM or did it just happen to become this way? ________________________________________________ NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS please sign :) i want purrty colours :( It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
wiggyman Caldari Gallentean Industry Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.27 18:51:00 - [6] excellent story, can't wait for the rest. i love the image above it, hope i can get a wallpaper version of it :) ----------- missiles - the cause of, and solution to, all ur PvE problems.
Matalino Gallente Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2007.08.27 20:07:00 - [7] Originally by: CCP Abraxas I expect it to end in April or May of 2008. Your going to leave us hanging every second week for 8 or 9 months. Looking forward to more. Just be sure to keep your promisses. No vacation for you until June. Originally by: CCP Prism X P.S. If you think you're reading some information through the lines here, you're wrong. I'm actually just bored.
Barrick Stormsworn Minmatar Rho Dynamics Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.08.27 20:31:00 - [8] Fantastic :-P I wasn't aware this was a series until this episode. Love seeing them tie together, and I look forward to future releases.
sugark Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.08.27 22:27:00 - [9] Really nice - thank you. I also enjoyed "Post Mortem" alot and can¦t wait for the next part :D _______________________________________________ Click pic to get a sig!
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.27 23:04:00 - [10] oh my --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote: "Players are fine, boost guns"
Big Pick Caldari Task Force Ranger	Posted - 2007.08.28 01:10:00 - [11] Originally by: wiggyman i love the image above it, hope i can get a wallpaper version of it :) The bewildered look on the inspector's face as his brains are flying across the room is classic. However I would have depicted Alad as nonchalant, even bored. Dispassionately dispatching a police inspector in a crowded bar, in front of another officer no less, is a very powerful statement of control and aplomb. ===============================
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.28 10:12:00 - [12] Fething. Cool. - The game is not the problem. The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.

CCP Morpheus	Posted - 2007.08.28 11:09:00 - [13] Absolutely brilliant, now you'll have me hanging over your desk wanting previews every day! I'll make sure he doesn't get a vacation folks.

Per Bastet Amarr B.O.O.M	Posted - 2007.08.28 11:22:00 - [14] MORE, I, and my Whole Corp are Demanding More.
maya ibuki2	Posted - 2007.08.28 13:07:00 - [15] very interesting premise abraxas-cant wait for more. liked the catching the truncheon in mid air bit :) very bruce lee lol
Liisa Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.28 14:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Big Pick Originally by: wiggyman i love the image above it, hope i can get a wallpaper version of it :) The bewildered look on the inspector's face as his brains are flying across the room is classic. However I would have depicted Alad as nonchalant, even bored. Dispassionately dispatching a police inspector in a crowded bar, in front of another officer no less, is a very powerful statement of control and aplomb. It is a demonstration of the power that he has behind him as well as control. I am guessing that in eve the local police force is, well, kind of like a security guard is to us. If you are a member of a group that has access to its own fleet of starships and maybe even capsuleers, then killing a local cop is only a problem so long as you are on the colony or on the station. Once you make it back to your ship and undock you are as free as the wind. ---------------------------------- Currently pursuing a "deviant playstyle."
Pang Grohl Gallente Sudo Corp	Posted - 2007.08.28 16:45:00 - [17] Reread The Greatest Joke and Post Mortem. I have to say that those are two very different recruiting methods. It makes you wonder who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. Si non adjuvas, noces (If you're not helping, you're hurting)
Indra Sebuchiore Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:52:00 - [18] Excellent as usual. Another good thing about it was that it made me go back and read the other 2; I'd forgotten how good they were as well. __________________________________________ "In girum imus nocte, et consumimur igni."
Riley Craven Caldari Copacetic Corporation	Posted - 2007.08.29 03:11:00 - [19] I want to say you rock and you suck at the same time... awsome intro, but man I HATE WAITING
Franga Caldari NQX Innovations Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.29 08:48:00 - [20] Well played, Abraxas. Good game. _____________________________ Eldo spanked my sig but I can't be bothered changing it just now.
Freki Grimnir Minmatar The Plexus Syndicate The Order of New Eden	Posted - 2007.08.29 10:02:00 - [21] This is the kind of chronicle I like and I'm so happy that it's going to last for ages. It's the little nightmare-ball-in-the-box aspect that I like; for me this adds to the mythos of Eve in general and helps fill out the universe. Just one thing though Abraxas - I am watching you! I need my fix of these and if you miss an instalment, if you're even a few hours late with one I'll....be very very upset and may have to write a strongly worded letter! Anyway enough o' my pish - superb work yet again mate. If I was wearing a hat I would doff it to you, if knew what doffing was. Keep it up.
Stakhanov Katana's Edge	Posted - 2007.08.29 11:33:00 - [22] Awesome chronicle. Originally by: Cipher7 If you manage to get baited, what's your skill, being a good victim?
BranBresil Caldari Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.29 15:10:00 - [23] One thing that just niggled at me though, was the use of "rapprochement" intentional, or was the intended meaning more akin to "reproach"? Because if rapprochement was correct I didn't quite anticipate her trying to ingratiate herself in such a manner, but they're your characters so obviously you know best heh, just wondering if you clear that up though. Other than that, great chronicle.
Multi Point	Posted - 2007.08.29 18:29:00 - [24] Edited by: Multi Point on 29/08/2007 18:33:44 Abraxas, While not having the least bit of interest in this thread and what it represents per se, it seems a good place to ask; to whom were you intending to appeal by using the graphic execution-style head shot to advertise your story? Why bother to comment if I'm not interested, you ask? Because you subjected everyone who visits the EVE Online home page to this picture unwillingly and without warning. The artwork is very good, and therefore the impact is quite visceral. That may have been your goal, so yes, you may indeed infer that it worked and that I am a bit put off by it. However, while hoping to attract an audience, it is not unfair to ask how many repelled with that graphic who might otherwise have been interested, unless your writing also appeals only to a small niche. If not, though, a different lure may serve you better. Respectfully, Don Griffith
Big Pick Caldari Task Force Ranger	Posted - 2007.08.30 03:34:00 - [25] Edited by: Big Pick on 30/08/2007 03:34:28 Originally by: Multi Point Edited by: Multi Point on 29/08/2007 18:36:16 Edited by: Multi Point on 29/08/2007 18:34:07 Abraxas, While not having the least bit of interest in this thread and what it represents per se, it seems a good place to ask; to whom were you intending to appeal by using the graphic execution-style head shot to advertise your story? Why bother to comment if I'm not interested, you ask? Because you subjected everyone who visits the EVE Online home page to this picture unwillingly and without warning. The artwork is very good, and therefore the impact is quite visceral. That may have been your goal, so yes, you may indeed infer that it worked and I am a bit put off by it. However, while hoping to attract an audience, it is not unfair to ask how many were repelled with that graphic who might otherwise have been interested, unless your writing also appeals only to a small niche. If not, though, a different lure may serve you better. Respectfully, Don Griffith Let me being by complimenting you on the eloquent and tasteful expression of your concern. I, admittedly neither the creator of the work in question nor whom to which your comment is addressed, posit that the image should be viewed in a different context. The image is not, as you intimate, an advertisement for the chronicle. It is a visual representation, an illustration if you will, of a pivotal event in the chronicle. The difference between the two is subtle but important. Eve is a dark and brutal universe. The characters introduced to us through the backstory are flawed, fallible and controversial. They are so because they are human. This means that while dark and brutal, Eve is a fundamentally human universe. As such, there is no definition of good and evil. Remember, one Minmatar's oppressor is another Amarrian's embodiment of the divine. Good and evil are products of our, the player's, individual interpretations of the stories and characters. The chronicles are not, therefore, statements, nor analyses, nor arguments. The chronicles are bits of information, snapshots from the Eve universe. Each one provides a little more insight with which we can formulate our own interpretations. What good does it do to advertise information? It would be a bit like trying to advertise history. To more directly answer your question: the devs are intending to appeal to you with the graphic execution-style head shot. But not in an effort to attract attention; you are a captive audience, being that you yourself are part of the Eve story. They are appealing to you because they want you to react and think, exactly as you have. So by responding so eloquently to the image, you have demonstrated why the image exists in the first place. For that, I thank you. ===============================

CCP Abraxas	Posted - 2007.08.30 10:19:00 - [26] Originally by: Freyya I assume the well dressed man we get to meet in this story is not the despaired and severely ill man we got to meet in The Greatest Joke? One thing i do wonder though, did you plan on PM and TGJ to be the prologues for the main characters in BM or did it just happen to become this way? Nah, it's not that guy. We'll meet him in the next instalment, called "Inertial". Take note, though, that he wasn't severely physically ill as such. He's dying, certainly, but his illness will have no effect on his physical well-being until, well, it ends. "Inertial" goes into more detail on this. As for planning it ... sort of. I always had plans for TGJ, but they were substantially different from what Black Mountain turned out to be. The next two stories, "Inertial" and "The Room", will basically retcon those plans and provide the reader with a different explanation for the mystical boxes. PM was a one-off, but the character was so popular that I decided to use her for something else. When I got the idea for Black Mountain, she was a perfect fit. This is the problem with publishing something like TGJ and intending to write more about it later. When you finally get around to it - TGJ is a year old by now - you're a different person and a different writer, with all the change of style and interest and tone that this implies. Originally by: CCP Morpheus Absolutely brilliant, now you'll have me hanging over your desk wanting previews every day! I'll make sure he doesn't get a vacation folks. I wonder if I should tell him that the entire Black Mountain series is already available on CCP's private access... Originally by: Pang Grohl Reread The Greatest Joke and Post Mortem. I have to say that those are two very different recruiting methods. It makes you wonder who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. It does, yes. And that's not the last time in Black Mountain where you'll be wondering about that issue. Originally by: BranBresil One thing that just niggled at me though, was the use of "rapprochement" intentional, or was the intended meaning more akin to "reproach"? It was intentional, and a total brainfart at the same time. Thanks for pointing it out; I'll have it corrected right after I stop beating my head against the desk. Originally by: Multi Point While not having the least bit of interest in this thread and what it represents per se... My goodness. You sound exactly like the food critic in Ratatouille. Big Pick has already given an excellent and detailed answer to this, but I'll add one more detail: The data I have on page access indicates that this piece has not only achieved the highest three-day number of reads of any story, ever, but that it has also acquired a high number of re-reads. In addition, the time each user is spending on the page corresponds to its reading time; so whatever else the picture did to its viewers' minds, it did not have a detrimental effect on their interest in the story itself. It appears that the "small niche" you mentioned is not the group of people attracted by the picture, but the few bodies who found it distasteful.

ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.08.30 13:25:00 - [27] Looking forwards to the rest of this - Eve chronicles seem to be the only way for non-roleplayers to tap into Eve's fluff. Certainly the only entertaining way, given how dreadfully dull the PvE experience actually is.
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.08.30 13:38:00 - [28] Multipoint: Murder with lasers in space is fine, but murder in bars with handguns is bad? I give the entire Eve player base my express permission to shoot me in the back of the head should i ever feel the need to condemn and, perhaps worse still, over-analyse a spectacularly tame cartoon on a videogame website.
Big Pick Caldari Task Force Ranger	Posted - 2007.08.30 17:18:00 - [29] Originally by: ry ry Multipoint: Murder with lasers in space is fine, but murder in bars with handguns is bad? I give the entire Eve player base my express permission to shoot me in the back of the head should i ever feel the need to condemn and, perhaps worse still, over-analyse a spectacularly tame cartoon on a videogame website. The funny thing about a postmodern world is that while it is based solely on the interpretation of the individual, the uniqueness of every individual's life experience makes no two interpretations the same. Thus, no one interpretation can, nor should, be considered more right than any other. (That was a really smart-assed way of saying that everyone is entitled to their own damned views.) Originally by: CCP Abraxas Big Pick has already given an excellent and detailed answer to this, I feel all warm and fuzzy inside! Wait... that could be heartburn... no its a good warm and fuzziness. Originally by: CCP Abraxas It appears that the "small niche" you mentioned is not the group of people attracted by the picture, but the few bodies who found it distasteful. My first thought when I saw the Black Mountain image was, "w00t @ AbraXXas!". My second thought was, "What a vulgar display of lawlessness, immorality and gore. Awesome!" ===============================
Kakita Jalaan Viriette Commerce and Holding	Posted - 2007.08.31 08:03:00 - [30] Moar! ______________ Join the Family
Letheeth Kayl Amarr Chosen Path FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.31 08:45:00 - [31] (this is at a previous poster in this thread)-> I'm pretty sure, that as a capsuleer pilot, I could shoot one of the lift guards out of the blue on my way from my ship to my Corporation's private offices/lodgings (you know, the the guards that are meant to keep non pod pilots from getting up there), and say something completely false such as "he made sexual advances on me, and I felt threatened." I sincerely doubt there would be a serious investigation in the matter, and unless I was in Amarr, I'd probably just have to pay some kind of fine (what's a few million isk though? A new ship, a clone? you make me laugh impovershed serf working for 5isk/hour). So, yeah, the whole being able to kill tens of thousands with a single thought, or spare just as many with just as little . . . makes us . . . above? the "law." If I was in a more "lawless" portion of space (read no concord or well fitted navy to tell me that I don't get to do what I want) and I was forced to take the clone express back from a bar, you can bet your keester, that thantos, and grandma's life savings I'm going back and blowing up the whole colony in retaliation. They will know Wrath and Righteousness incarnate from my Holy Amarrian Lasers. I agree that the picture was deeply disturbing. The whole killing people I can see, and have a connection with (even if it was only to see with my own eyes the person was alive and infact, human) is disturbing, much more so, than say pushing a little red button that will kill a notional 10 million (I'm sure it'd be much different for the "notional" 10 million people on the receiving end of that red button). I needed an explaination, and the story did a superb job. GREAT WORK ABRAXAS. Would you please send me the ip address, and login information to the secure Eve network where you have the rest of the story hidden? It'll save me alot of money and time, over flying to iceland, and trying to locate the archive manually (I'm very bad at reading binary, or hex for that matter). I particularly like how the non descript, yet well dressed man has a rutheless undertone to him. After the Atira figured out the ploy aimed at getting her attention, it kind of changes the game a bit . . . that poor bastard inspector did die, so this man is obviously willing to sacrifice anyone and everyone (except himself of course) for whatever his goals are. I DEMAND to know more aobut "Shoeless Joe," the inspector who was so thoughtlessly killed by his employers (I bet he thought he was working for a legitimate company or some such, like ORE or CreoDon). You said yourself, that if enough people demand, you'll deliver. 1 and counting Put down the mirror and return to live With pain With sin With despair Live with penance in God's glory Lesson of Tobias and the Mirror Scriptures Verses26-29
Jim Outright Gallente Fuzzyness Enterprizes Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.08.31 12:31:00 - [32] Further praise Abraxas .. well written and enticing stuff! -- I fart clouds of tritanium after flying my freighter.. Anyone else?
JADE DRAG0NESS Dark Scorpions Fate Weavers	Posted - 2007.09.01 01:31:00 - [33] Looking foward to finding out whats in the boxes. "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
Htrag The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2007.09.01 21:40:00 - [34] I'm obviously in the minority, but I find that picture to be distasteful on the front page of eve-o... dl My Vid!
Beren Haderach Amarr Archon Industries	Posted - 2007.09.02 21:09:00 - [35] Awesome writing. I wonder if it shouldn't be a short story (instead of a chronicle), however...
Lukas Rox The Scope	Posted - 2007.09.03 13:44:00 - [36] Abraxas, this was simply great! Like watching first episode of a very good series, that you want to see the next episode right away. Quote: He held up a glass of water. "Drink it." She took the glass and downed it before he had a chance to say anything else. Quote: He pulled out a small box about the size of a fist and opened it. She looked at its contents and winced. "What do you see?" he said. Now you've got my attention, what was in that box? And what was in the water? And why people collapse because of those boxes? Damnit, can't wait until the next chrnicle. --- Visit in game for nice items links http://eve.interkam.pl/eveships
Lief Siddhe University of Caille	Posted - 2007.09.06 22:30:00 - [37] Very nice story, keep it up! As far as the picture goes (as a comic fan): it is actually not distasteful - notice that the gore and blood are skilfully hidden behind the holo-screen, and not the focus of the picture. Besides, this is a game where capsuleers destroy groups of ships with hundreds and thousands of crew on board - yet a graphic of a murder is somehow too much? This game includes violence in its content (as do about 90% of all games in one form or another), and EVE stories and graphics are usually anything BUT graphic violence. So I guess this won't turn into a manga-style bloodbath any time in the future. Waiting for the next one! I was somewhere around Old Man Star, on the edge of Essence, when the drugs began to take hold
Xanther Stareater Minmatar The Older Gamers	Posted - 2007.09.08 22:26:00 - [38] I am a complete EVE fiction noob. So given that, is there a way to subscribe to a reminder about this story ??
Maximillian Power Minmatar The Dark Protectorate	Posted - 2007.09.09 14:46:00 - [39] Nice story - and nice writing. Looking forward to reading the rest.
Dominar Solon Gallente Black Justice	Posted - 2007.09.09 17:24:00 - [40] This was an excellent short. I can not however express enough that the use of 'basically' should be used as little as possible. To say ô..we are basically assembling a ***** team...ö removes the mood of a story line and will set the reader to think of it more as ammature writing. Overall though this was the only thing that threw a wrench into being pulled into your story. Consider also that while you covered the surrounding environments that we would be visiting in this story there was nothing that set this place apart. Where where we, why did we elect to go here, what list of bars did we have? These kinds of questions need answers to compound our mood of the story and envelope the reader more. The more detail that wafts into our visual mindset the more clear we can see. While a writer must refrain from inundating us with details they are needed to bring the story to a culminating point in which the reader can expect to receive there climax.
Meleric Caldari Alpha-Hirogen Phoenix Allianz	Posted - 2007.09.09 18:30:00 - [41] More !!!!! Great Story !!!!!
Shadow Ballet Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.09.10 15:40:00 - [42] Hey! Where's chapter 2 then? It's the 10th... and I'm bored at work... Help! A superb story so far, very intriguing
Talia Tigerpaw	Posted - 2007.09.24 22:51:00 - [43] Edited by: Talia Tigerpaw on 24/09/2007 22:53:20 Personaly I did not enjoy the "headshot drawing" nor that of the "nude" restrained women in the chair. Not because I have something against dark art. But because I do not play Eve to be reminded about "real ongoing crimes", infact that is the last reason I play Eve. When I want to do that I go elswhere. My concern is mostly with the last drawing of the women. I got friends that practice Falun Gong, and you do not have to be very smart to imagine how they see it. The women is near naked, most likely raped or sexualy mutilated. That is how they will see it because it will hit home. Plus the way she is restrained is also familiar. Let me add that I think I speak for the few women actualy playing Eve, when I say that **(yes word is even blocked out) is one thing the Eve Universe could do without in graphic content. But I gues this is a battle between those that want everything to be "realisticly human" to the extreme, and those that just want a great storyline(No I do not mean a childrens story) and a place to relax. Here I also speak about the ***stories in the pirat logs in game. Last I want to say that yes you can consider this post political. But fact is that near 10% of Chinas population right now is outlawed and "free game"(undergoing same methods), so when you make this kind of art it is Political by default. To make it and then say we can not comment on that fact, would be highly hypocritical.

CCP Abraxas	Posted - 2007.09.24 23:53:00 - [44] Originally by: Talia Tigerpaw I do not play Eve to be reminded about "real ongoing crimes", infact that is the last reason I play Eve. There's nothing wrong with your desire to read escape fiction. I deal with all sides of humanity, good and bad, and sometimes I write ugly things. I have no problem with anyone who doesn't want to read them. However, I caution you not to assume - whether implicitly or not - that this kind of ugly fiction excuses or ignores real-world issues. Instead, you may want to consider what purpose I might have had in writing the execution scene that you refer to, and what that scene says about Draea and the people she works for. I even had the art altered; in the first version, the bound woman was dressed in moderately sexy clothing that barely contained an ample body, and I demanded that she be reduced to a terrified victim. There is a point to this, as there always is, and it's not to take things to extremes for their own sake.

Aries Acheron Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:17:00 - [45] Originally by: Talia Tigerpaw Edited by: Talia Tigerpaw on 24/09/2007 22:53:20 Personaly I did not enjoy the "headshot drawing" nor that of the "nude" restrained women in the chair. Not because I have something against dark art. But because I do not play Eve to be reminded about "real ongoing crimes", infact that is the last reason I play Eve. When I want to do that I go elswhere. My concern is mostly with the last drawing of the women. I got friends that practice Falun Gong, and you do not have to be very smart to imagine how they see it. The women is near naked, most likely raped or sexualy mutilated. That is how they will see it because it will hit home. Plus the way she is restrained is also familiar. Let me add that I think I speak for the few women actualy playing Eve, when I say that **(yes word is even blocked out) is one thing the Eve Universe could do without in graphic content. But I gues this is a battle between those that want everything to be "realisticly human" to the extreme, and those that just want a great storyline(No I do not mean a childrens story) and a place to relax. Here I also speak about the ***stories in the pirat logs in game. Last I want to say that yes you can consider this post political. But fact is that near 10% of Chinas population right now is outlawed and "free game"(undergoing same methods), so when you make this kind of art it is Political by default. To make it and then say we can not comment on that fact, would be highly hypocritical. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it. I'm reading through this series right now, but suffice to say... you have to live with it. To put it in somewhat BS-sounding terminology, Fiction uses events that have not actually happened to reflect upon the human condition. To ignore darker aspects of reality is to rob us of the full range of what reality is like. And that's when things get dangerous. Sheltered individuals produces a poorer society, and one more prone to actual violence or other such darker behaviors of people. As to your Falun Gong friends.. but before you ask CCP to discontinue fake artwork about a woman being bound, you should probably get them to stop producing the same too. It happens, yes. But they don't need to fake photographs of it. But that's enough politics. Back to arguing about if Serpentis or Guristas drop better stuff... ~~~ Survive Eve! Eve Tribune
General God	Posted - 2007.10.05 11:39:00 - [46] good story mate :D
Nidhoggr Gallente Bloody Agressive Dudes	Posted - 2007.10.16 12:22:00 - [47] I`m astound! Your writing is intelligent and intruiging. Very nice. Please continue your writing

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