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Hachun K'ar
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Posted - 2007.08.29 14:24:00 -
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I know this has been brought up, and I understand why CCP doesn't allow account sharing (it's an essential lease of the software to one person).
Now, what if two people were to jointly pay for an account? Is that against the EULA for those two to access that account even if they were both paying half of the sub fees some how?
Thanks,
HK
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Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.29 14:26:00 -
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i would say that its still officialy againt the rules (because accounts can only be registered to one person), if you want a official answer maybe send a petition.
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Vladic Ka
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.29 14:27:00 -
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 Originally by: Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
i would say that its still officialy againt the rules (because accounts can only be registered to one person), if you want a official answer maybe send a petition.
Holy huge sig batman!
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.29 14:31:00 -
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EULA 2.A
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Establishing a New Account
When it is first run, the Software will prompt you to register a new Account online. Upon establishing a new Account, you will be entitled to play EVEÖ for thirty (30) days without paying the subscription fee (the "Trial Period"). If your Account is not terminated in accordance with the procedures set forth below within that thirty (30) day period, you will be charged the subscription fees as described during the registration process when you established your Account.
Only an individual, natural person who is an adult or, in the discretion of such an adult, his or her minor child, may establish an Account. You are responsible and liable for all activities conducted through your Account, regardless of who conducts those activities.
You may not share your Account with anyone, or allow anyone other than you personally (or your minor child, if you have registered an Account on behalf of your minor child) to access or use your Account. Joint or shared ownership or use of an Account by more than one user is prohibited.
Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVEÖ is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities. Business entities and anyone who is acting for or on behalf of a business or for business purposes may not establish an Account, access the System or play EVEÖ. Accessing the System or using the Game for commercial, business or income-seeking purposes is strictly prohibited.
The highlighted section means only one person can create an account and only one person may use it. Even if you guys share the cost for the account the account may still only be registered to one person and used by that person alone.
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SexxxSlave
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Posted - 2007.08.29 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Vladic Ka
Originally by: Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
i would say that its still officialy againt the rules (because accounts can only be registered to one person), if you want a official answer maybe send a petition.
Holy hijacking the thread batman!
fixed.....
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Hachun K'ar
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Posted - 2007.08.29 14:32:00 -
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Ah, thanks.
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Zhett Haukes
Insult to Injury
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Posted - 2007.08.29 14:34:00 -
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If you hadn't said anything, would they ever find out?
Unless they have spies in every corp and in your house...
*looks behind him*
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Hachun K'ar
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Posted - 2007.08.29 14:37:00 -
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Well it would be impossible to find out if we both used the same computer (since we're at Uni). Unless they have infiltrated the university..
*Screams like a little girl and runs into the dark corner*
That is, if we did share an account, which we won't, because they'll now be watching me 
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:08:00 -
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*withholds frustrated comment about the EULA*
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Dal Thrax
Multiverse Corporation
The Core Collective
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:10:00 -
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Though I should add that if you get shipped off to Iraq, a military POA, allowing somebody to see to your affairs, would under US Law trump the EULA. So there is one situation where you can have two people with access to one account (now what CCP an Icelandic company would do is such a situation is up in the air).
Dal
Originally by: Seleene
It seems to me that 'independence' is a relative term these days, determined mainly by the size and number of your guns.
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:10:00 -
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You need to be in a really big alliance, and need Titans and CynoNets 23/7 before you are officially allowed to ignore that part of the EULA.
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Elite Marksman
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Elite Marksman on 29/08/2007 15:12:41
If they wanted to, ban your account under the "we own everything and provide everything at our convenience" clause.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dal Thrax
Though I should add that if you get shipped off to Iraq, a military POA, allowing somebody to see to your affairs, would under US Law trump the EULA. So there is one situation where you can have two people with access to one account (now what CCP an Icelandic company would do is such a situation is up in the air).
Dal
Nope.
Been there, done that. EULA has nothing to do with national laws. It's your contract vs. a company.
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:17:00 -
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Oh wait, I forgot the other group allowed to account share.
23/7 Dedicated Farmers.
No CCP, you cannot rat in 0.0, run courier missions, or Level 4's for Caldari Navy 23 hours a day every single day, no matter how much you want to justify it to yourselves.
"Well you know, I hear that these Hatians are really dedicated gamers and they can do that and they pay us lots of nice yankee dollars for our yachts, and I think we should leave alone."
That's right, 1 hour sleep a day super humans. Not account Sharers. Not at all, oh no.
Muppets.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:17:00 -
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Another game had these, was it, "sitting" rules in place, worked rather fine.
Person A is on holiday.
Person B could watch his account.
Person A petitions that person B gets "sitting rights".
Person B can, if granted, now sit for a limited amount of time and with limited options by the other persons account.
This could be implemented in EVE i think. Usually these kind of "account sharing needs" are based on setting skill training.
Petition for a permit for someone else to "sit" your account and change skills.
This could be done with, perhaps, setting the account to a "sitting" status so only option to use ingame is to change skills.
Or...some such nonsense 
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:24:00 -
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You'd have to do something really bad for us to take legal actions because of a EULA violation. 
Wrangler
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Nicho Void
Gallente
Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Nicho Void on 29/08/2007 15:26:36
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You'd have to do something really bad for us to take legal actions because of a EULA violation.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:29:00 -
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Wrangler, side question: What if an associate (friend, family member, whathaveyou), lets say my younger sibling, opens up an account, but the payment comes out of my pocket, does this still violate that clause of the EULA even though I only give him/her the cash to pay for it and I dont know the user/pass and other details of the account?
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:30:00 -
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Quote:
You may not share your Account with anyone, or allow anyone other than you personally (or your minor child, if you have registered an Account on behalf of your minor child) to access or use your Account. Joint or shared ownership or use of an Account by more than one user is prohibited.
if its your kid, its all good, and they dont care who pays for it as long as it isnt shared 
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Malashek Vatrii
Non-Conformist Amarr Loyalists
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:33:00 -
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I just don't see how you can't eliminate account sharing, since, IP Address system is so, weak. And there are excuses for anything except 23/7 macroing. "Oh, I fly regularly between England and Denmark, that's why you have an IP from England and Denmark logged to my account".
All sorts, so CCP, do you have ways of catching account sharing?
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Ker Ching
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:37:00 -
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So, in theory, if an account is logged on and active 23 hours a day it must be violating the EULA. Why aren't these accounts banned?
Originally by: Sahwoolo Etoophie
Please stop posting threads. *click*
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Fester Addams
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:38:00 -
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Like always when you are dealing with an EULA you must always remember that while the EULA states alot of things as law they may not be law in your country, in reality trying to enforcing such rules may actually be against the law.
All of that is however moot as the most important part of the EULA is that CCP may choose not to do buisness with any one of us, if they choose to not do buisness with an account then the account will effectivelly be banned.
In short, I follow the EULA to the best of my abilities.
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Rude Bwoy
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:42:00 -
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well, i suppose enforcement of any bans due to infringement of the EULA is subject to the owner's digression.
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.29 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
Wrangler, side question: What if an associate (friend, family member, whathaveyou), lets say my younger sibling, opens up an account, but the payment comes out of my pocket, does this still violate that clause of the EULA even though I only give him/her the cash to pay for it and I dont know the user/pass and other details of the account?
No, as long as one person only has access to the account, and the account is registered to that person, I don't see us having any issues with it.
Wrangler
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Dark Guardian
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Posted - 2007.08.29 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ker Ching
So, in theory, if an account is logged on and active 23 hours a day it must be violating the EULA. Why aren't these accounts banned?
If such 23 hour active access continues more than a few days (hey, some geeks are young), then they probably are banned. They won't be posting here confirming, because ... they're banned :) |
Montague Zooma
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.29 16:41:00 -
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My cat likes to swat at my keyboard while I'm playing. I hope that's not a EULA violation.
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Rashell
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.08.29 16:43:00 -
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Dont think you can ban an account for being on 23/7...i know a few people that leave their computer running 24/7, logged into their game constantly. Even though most of the 23/7's are probly chinese farmers or whatever, im sure there are a few normal geeks in there that dont mind a large power bill and fire hazard 
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.29 16:44:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=544825&page=1#9
Originally by: CCP Fear
But as has been pointed out here, you can always start a trial account. That way your friend can also keep his character if he wishes to continue playing for example (as account sharing is forbidden ;) )
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584621&page=1#16
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You'd have to do something really bad for us to take legal actions because of a EULA violation.
Hmm, what is CCP trying to tell us with the and ;) emoticon?
From my perspective it seems like CCP spokespersons are trying to have the cake and eat it too by giving us ambiguous signals.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.08.29 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: Kazuma Saruwatari on 29/08/2007 16:55:50
I think the issue of account sharing would apply more if both you and the person you're sharing the account try to get on at the same time.
That's definately going to get logged, and thanks to the EULA, grounds for banning or other such actions.
Wrangler: thanks for the answer :D
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.08.29 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You'd have to do something really bad for us to take legal actions because of a EULA violation.
So the faction Nyx that I looted is why I'm being chased by rl concord? 
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Agent Li
Caldari
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2007.08.29 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You'd have to do something really bad for us to take legal actions because of a EULA violation.
Just shutting off the account, though, is not a legal action. And is pretty cheap.
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Agent Li
Caldari
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2007.08.29 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
I recall Kieron mentioning once that CCP don't care about account sharing within the immediate family, mostly because they can't tell when two clients connecting from the same IP are being run by one person or more. Is that still the case?
I think they would notice it more in corps where people intentionally share accounts (so, for example, people can share a freighter or something costly and useful).
But, considering that people can log on to Eve from different computers with the same account, I'm not sure that looking at IPs can prove much.
Now, if a person connected from an IP in the US, and suddenly, two hours later, connected from an IP in Australia, you might have a case.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2007.08.29 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Li
Originally by: Nyphur
I recall Kieron mentioning once that CCP don't care about account sharing within the immediate family, mostly because they can't tell when two clients connecting from the same IP are being run by one person or more. Is that still the case?
I think they would notice it more in corps where people intentionally share accounts (so, for example, people can share a freighter or something costly and useful).
But, considering that people can log on to Eve from different computers with the same account, I'm not sure that looking at IPs can prove much.
Now, if a person connected from an IP in the US, and suddenly, two hours later, connected from an IP in Australia, you might have a case.
Exactly, the rule is designed to prevent certain cases of abuse like corps sharing cyno characters or titan pilots. It doesn't seem to be designed to stop me changing skills for my little brother.
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Gibbal Slogspit
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.08.29 17:31:00 -
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Lemme shove you another scenario CCP if I may out of general curiousity, this EULA rule has boggled my mind since I started playing, it seems to limit me severely. Its rightfully there to protect account hacking.
Heres a scenario, in this instance, both of these people will technically break the EULA.
- Someone is at his/hers my mates hous, both have an account.
- They frequently go to each others houses, and play eve. They both log in on the same computer. They dont know each others log in details.
- Obviously they can't both be actively playing the game, only one can, yet they both are logged on, so the control of both accounts is in one hands.
Now in this scenario, would these people be punished for violating the EULA?
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Marek Payne
Insult to Injury
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Posted - 2007.08.29 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Zhett Haukes
If you hadn't said anything, would they ever find out?
Unless they have spies in every corp and in your house...
*looks behind him*
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Rex Cramer
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Posted - 2007.08.29 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You'd have to do something really bad for us to take legal actions because of a EULA violation.
I know of a certain capital ship pilot who's account is shared, beyond a shadow of a doubt... We were sparring in a system with a Nyx in one time, I was watching him with my scout and talking to him in local, he logged off and back in instantaneously (as if someone logged him in while he was already logged in), then started speaking to my in local as if we weren't speaking before, and this time with completely different grammer, spelling, and so on (one person said 'you', the other said 'u' etc)... Then 3 minutes later, the same thing happened and the first guy was back, saying he'd lost connection!
That's the worst way to account share in my opinion... I didn't bother petitioning it, it wouldn't be of any use... CCP have more important things to deal with than 2 guys and a Nyx... Like defending Querious...
Anyway, small amounts of account sharing go on all the time... People go on holiday and get their friends or parents to change skills for them, people lose the internet and get their friend to swap a skill... I think the best way to solve this problem would be to add in an out-of-game skill changing program (perhaps via this website), so that you didn't have to call your mate up and say "Hey Steve, I'm just getting on the plane to Los Angeles now, can you shove BS 5 on for me? I forgot to do it before I left"...
Just a thought! 
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.29 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Leroy Payne
So if I was to petition some accounts which I know for a fact are shared, and your own IP logs would confirm this beyond any reasonable doubt, what exactly would CCP do about it?
I've been a "victim" of this in the past, the consequence of such petition may lead to the person who was not the account holder to recieve a warning. And should a secondary warning be given, it would lead to more severe actions. Worst-case-scenario is that both people's accounts gets banned.
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Akile
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Posted - 2007.08.29 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You'd have to do something really bad for us to take legal actions because of a EULA violation.
So transferring a character off of a stolen account isn't an EULA violation right?
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syphurous
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.29 22:49:00 -
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I log in on two different IP's all the time, infact its probably more than that being my home internet is on a dynamic IP. Using IP's would be fruitless in alot of accounts, un;ess of course those IPs belonged to ISP on different continents.
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Suz1
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Posted - 2007.08.29 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Dal Thrax
Though I should add that if you get shipped off to Iraq, a military POA, allowing somebody to see to your affairs, would under US Law trump the EULA. So there is one situation where you can have two people with access to one account (now what CCP an Icelandic company would do is such a situation is up in the air).
Dal
Despite the fact that many EULA's directly condtradict some state and federal laws, there has yet to be a case where the EULA was not upheld in court. Because, when you click the "I agree" button (or equivalent) you are agreeing to be bound by a contract between you and the company. |
Akile
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Posted - 2007.08.29 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Suz1
Originally by: Dal Thrax
Though I should add that if you get shipped off to Iraq, a military POA, allowing somebody to see to your affairs, would under US Law trump the EULA. So there is one situation where you can have two people with access to one account (now what CCP an Icelandic company would do is such a situation is up in the air).
Dal
Despite the fact that many EULA's directly condtradict some state and federal laws, there has yet to be a case where the EULA was not upheld in court. Because, when you click the "I agree" button (or equivalent) you are agreeing to be bound by a contract between you and the company.
Even then the company gets to pick and choose what to enforce.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.29 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: syphurous
I log in on two different IP's all the time, infact its probably more than that being my home internet is on a dynamic IP. Using IP's would be fruitless in alot of accounts, un;ess of course those IPs belonged to ISP on different continents.
Well that'd be a start. I know our alliance is packed full of Americans, Europeans, and Australians (and probably a decent smattering of others). If an account is in Australia one minute and Texas the next, they can probably start investigating a bit closer...
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Sharupak
Minmatar
Knights Of the Black Sun
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.08.30 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Sharupak on 30/08/2007 00:24:29
Edited by: Sharupak on 30/08/2007 00:23:52
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EULA 2.A
Quote:
Establishing a New Account
When it is first run, the Software will prompt you to register a new Account online. Upon establishing a new Account, you will be entitled to play EVEÖ for thirty (30) days without paying the subscription fee (the "Trial Period"). If your Account is not terminated in accordance with the procedures set forth below within that thirty (30) day period, you will be charged the subscription fees as described during the registration process when you established your Account.
Only an INDIVIDUAL, NATURAL PERSONwho is an adult or, in the discretion of such an adult, his or her minor child, may establish an Account. You are responsible and liable for all activities conducted through your Account, regardless of who conducts those activities.
You may not share your Account with anyone, or allow anyone other than you personally (or your minor child, if you have registered an Account on behalf of your minor child) to access or use your Account. Joint or shared ownership or use of an Account by more than one user is prohibited.
Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVEÖ is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities. Business entities and anyone who is acting for or on behalf of a business or for business purposes may not establish an Account, access the System or play EVEÖ. Accessing the System or using the Game for commercial, business or income-seeking purposes is strictly prohibited.
The highlighted section means only one person can create an account and only one person may use it. Even if you guys share the cost for the account the account may still only be registered to one person and used by that person alone.
You hear that ladies? No implants! You can get them from the faction store once you get in the game.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: syphurous
I log in on two different IP's all the time, infact its probably more than that being my home internet is on a dynamic IP. Using IP's would be fruitless in alot of accounts, un;ess of course those IPs belonged to ISP on different continents.
The problem is, some people may use a proxy server for their connection, for any variety of reasons. I have in the past used a program that switched the proxy every 10-20 minutes, so one minute it looks like my connection is from Germany, the other from the UK, the next from California. While I have never used this for any games, just my web browser, some people could indeed have their entire connection routed with this program, and while they continue to play from one computer, the IP address would show continent changes.
As for dynamic IPs, an IP address will indicate ISP, so while your specific IP will be different, the indicated ISP would be different.
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
Do Or Die And Live Or Try
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Posted - 2007.08.30 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Gibbal Slogspit
Lemme shove you another scenario CCP if I may out of general curiousity, this EULA rule has boggled my mind since I started playing, it seems to limit me severely. Its rightfully there to protect account hacking.
Heres a scenario, in this instance, both of these people will technically break the EULA.
- Someone is at his/hers my mates hous, both have an account.
- They frequently go to each others houses, and play eve. They both log in on the same computer. They dont know each others log in details.
- Obviously they can't both be actively playing the game, only one can, yet they both are logged on, so the control of both accounts is in one hands.
Now in this scenario, would these people be punished for violating the EULA?
What you describe is computer sharing, not account sharing. That is not against the EULA.
But, if you log into your account and let you friend play it, that might be considered account sharing.
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Mannington Skank
Gallente
Allied Secret Service Operations
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Posted - 2007.08.30 10:44:00 -
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Damn, remind me to never let you guys use my car... my insurance company says that only i can drive it...
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.08.30 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral Nova on 30/08/2007 12:11:28
It's pretty clear this rule is here for a very few reasons:
- To prevent people sharing accounts then putting in petitions when stuff goes missing. CCP can just say 'sorry account was shared' and that's the end of that. They don't have to spend alot of GM time sorting out problems that people created by giving out the password. They can focus on the accounts that have really been hacked etc (I even know of one guy who had an employee put a keylogger on his PC and steal eve-isk, only to face real life criminal charges (and lose his job) for the key-logging and other various related charges that were discovered only due to the isk dissapearing).
From what I gather, CCP don't take any action on account sharing unless they see serious problems (you cause them petitions / maybe it's logged in 23 hours a day I dunno). Basically, when you cost them real life $$$ by breaking the EULA, then it's something you can only expect them to enforce. On the other hand if enforcing that EULA will only cost them $$$....
Realistically, there's no way to differentiate account sharing from PC sharing / network sharing beyond doubt.
I'm sure it was said at one stage, don't share your password with anyone, although it's probably ok if you already share a toothbrush or some such.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
Revelation Space
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Posted - 2007.08.30 14:04:00 -
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Just out of curiosity, if I am paying for my daughter to play I'll be responsible for the account. I'll need to be able to login and pay the sub... however she will also need to login and play the game.
By that definition I am breaking the EULA as two people know the account credentials, however how else can a minor play EVE at theiur parents expense?
/shrug
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
Revelation Space
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Posted - 2007.08.30 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mannington Skank
Damn, remind me to never let you guys use my car... my insurance company says that only i can drive it...
...and ironically if you get caught, you get a real life ban!
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candidx
Caldari
Core Complexion Applied Technology
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Posted - 2007.08.30 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Moon Kitten
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=544825&page=1#9
Originally by: CCP Fear
But as has been pointed out here, you can always start a trial account. That way your friend can also keep his character if he wishes to continue playing for example (as account sharing is forbidden ;) )
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584621&page=1#16
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You'd have to do something really bad for us to take legal actions because of a EULA violation.
Hmm, what is CCP trying to tell us with the and ;) emoticon?
From my perspective it seems like CCP spokespersons are trying to have the cake and eat it too by giving us ambiguous signals.
OMGG this from a goon
i cant comment on TCF as I dont have spies in there, but as for goons and RA its more prevelant than pint glasses in pubs.
you really are the master pot pet/kettle/black
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