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Balcura
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Posted - 2007.08.29 21:11:00 -
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Waxau
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2007.08.29 21:17:00 -
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......Its a vital fuel for pos.......
Plus, liquid ozone is needed in most capitals, in some way or another, whether its cynos, or what have you. The fact that its ORE, means it doesnt have a racial type, thus a generic fuel.
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Balcura
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Posted - 2007.08.29 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau ......Its a vital fuel for pos.......
Plus, liquid ozone is needed in most capitals, in some way or another, whether its cynos, or what have you. The fact that its ORE, means it doesnt have a racial type, thus a generic fuel.
Vital POS feul... sure, but in relitively low quantities. It is also one of the largest ice refine products out there as ever single ice rock provides heavy water in one part or another.
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Waxau
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2007.08.29 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Balcura
Originally by: Waxau ......Its a vital fuel for pos.......
Plus, liquid ozone is needed in most capitals, in some way or another, whether its cynos, or what have you. The fact that its ORE, means it doesnt have a racial type, thus a generic fuel.
Vital POS feul... sure, but in relitively low quantities. It is also one of the largest ice refine products out there as ever single ice rock provides heavy water in one part or another.
Just because its plentiful, doesnt give it an instant need for a use. For the simple fact of 'its everywhere', isnt a good reason. Heck, if thats how you claim balance, and such - I want my jump fuel to be Ozone too!
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Balcura
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Posted - 2007.08.29 22:14:00 -
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People so very rarely listen to an idea, then think....
If you are flying a racial ship then I completely understand the "consumption" of racial ores. I was making a statement about the market adjustment based on an entirely new capital (changing the balance of capitals in the game) requiring the same fuel.
It doesnĘt both me that ORE uses the racial isotopes, but as you made the comment above I agree liquid ozone would have been a better choice as well with one small issue, jump bridges and cyno generation both use liq ozone to power those abilities.
Heavy water is the only ice material to have 1 use (pos fuel) the other ice products can be used in various capacities. Strontium - POS reinforcement mode, Dread siege mode and now industrial mode on the ore ship. Racial Isotopes - Dread, carrier, mothership and titan transport jumping liquid ozone - POS fuel, cyno generation and jump bridges operation Heavy Water - POS fuel
Think before you speak as there may be a subtle thing that you miss based on lack of knowledge, but if you are just being argumentative then take this as a your thinking is in error and not everyone agrees with the way you believe things should work.
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dutchfighter
Chickens with an Attitude
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Posted - 2007.08.29 22:25:00 -
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You should think yourself before you speak.
The industrial core module used by the capital ore ship requires heavy water to activate..........there you go heavy water has 2 uses....satisfied good.
The reason why the ORE vessel uses oxygen is because of it's origen. ORE is a syndicate based corporation........syndicate = gallente low sec = gallente tech = oxygen isotopes.
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sov68n
Caldari RABBLE-RABBLE Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.08.29 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: dutchfighter You should think yourself before you speak.
The industrial core module used by the capital ore ship requires heavy water to activate..........there you go heavy water has 2 uses....satisfied good.
The reason why the ORE vessel uses oxygen is because of it's origen. ORE is a syndicate based corporation........syndicate = gallente low sec = gallente tech = oxygen isotopes.
aaaaaannnnnnndddd topic resolved ---
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Skavenger
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Posted - 2007.08.29 22:52:00 -
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Whoa whoa wait a minute... You mean to tell me, that you all read and thought about the problem without thinking about what he wants done?
Think about it: He wants a Jump Drive (you know like portable stargate/warp engine type thing) to be powered... by water?
uh.. so... like a dam? in your ship? please explain how that would work for a warp engine...
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TheHyperion
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Posted - 2007.08.29 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Skavenger Whoa whoa wait a minute... You mean to tell me, that you all read and thought about the problem without thinking about what he wants done?
Think about it: He wants a Jump Drive (you know like portable stargate/warp engine type thing) to be powered... by water?
uh.. so... like a dam? in your ship? please explain how that would work for a warp engine...
Hydro-electric jump engines of course. Because the water is HEAVY it will spin the turbines faster!!
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45thtiger011
Gallente 45th TIGERS Phoenix Supremacy
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Posted - 2007.08.30 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Skavenger Whoa whoa wait a minute... You mean to tell me, that you all read and thought about the problem without thinking about what he wants done?
Think about it: He wants a Jump Drive (you know like portable stargate/warp engine type thing) to be powered... by water?
uh.. so... like a dam? in your ship? please explain how that would work for a warp engine...
ok, by the sounds of it you don't know what heavy water is...
so for power from heavy water: strip out the Oxygen and whack the resulting heavy hydrogen isotopes in a fusion reactor. boom power, done.
it's as more 'real' science than a lot of things you see in this game so don't whine I'm going to live forever or die trying! |
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Allestin Villimar
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Posted - 2007.08.30 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: TheHyperion
Originally by: Skavenger Whoa whoa wait a minute... You mean to tell me, that you all read and thought about the problem without thinking about what he wants done?
Think about it: He wants a Jump Drive (you know like portable stargate/warp engine type thing) to be powered... by water?
uh.. so... like a dam? in your ship? please explain how that would work for a warp engine...
Hydro-electric jump engines of course. Because the water is HEAVY it will spin the turbines faster!!
Please don't reply. I need to know if my mental powers are capable of killing people over the internet.
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Waxau
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Allestin Villimar
Originally by: TheHyperion
Originally by: Skavenger Whoa whoa wait a minute... You mean to tell me, that you all read and thought about the problem without thinking about what he wants done?
Think about it: He wants a Jump Drive (you know like portable stargate/warp engine type thing) to be powered... by water?
uh.. so... like a dam? in your ship? please explain how that would work for a warp engine...
Hydro-electric jump engines of course. Because the water is HEAVY it will spin the turbines faster!!
Please don't reply. I need to know if my mental powers are capable of killing people over the internet.
Dont play with fire. You're just going to hurt yourself...
Or water for that matter.
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Skavenger
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Posted - 2007.08.30 01:29:00 -
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Edited by: Skavenger on 30/08/2007 01:29:53
Originally by: 45thtiger011
Originally by: Skavenger i said stuff
ok, by the sounds of it you don't know what heavy water is...
so for power from heavy water: strip out the Oxygen and whack the resulting heavy hydrogen isotopes in a fusion reactor. boom power, done.
it's as more 'real' science than a lot of things you see in this game so don't whine
um... heavy water is just regular water with deuterium atoms, hydrogen atoms that have a new neutron.
because of the changes in the atom it creates an even stronger bond with the oxygen and makes it slightly more dense, like 10%. Because of the stronger bonds, im pretty sure if you wanted to use hydrogen in your fusion reactor, it would be a lot easier to get it from actual water.
Also im not entirely sure how you would take the plasma of the hydrogen in said fusion reactor and use it as energy to power something... i think thats covered in your boom power done part...
anyways i was trying to be funny sheesh...
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Dalts
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:52:00 -
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Well stronger bond it yes, but then since u need the hyrdogen-2 isotope to actually get a fusion reaction with the lithium then u kinda have to use heavy water, hydrogen-1 isotope would just do not much
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Akiman
Gallente Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:19:00 -
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i want my blasters able to throw throwing axes
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Praetoria
Gallente ICE is Coming to EVE Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.31 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: Balcura Edited by: Balcura on 29/08/2007 21:17:11This can still be changed as there are no ORE capitals running the systems as of yet. Please look at this and understand that you added another class of ship that will jump with oxygen isotopes (pushing the price higher) making that isotope more used then any other in all the regions. It can and will be worked around, but please consider making the ORE ship run off of heavy water.
Balcura, the first one will be running on September 8th.
And ICE Is Coming to EVE is selling it fitted AND with a fuel pack of 30k Oxygen Isotopes so that you won't bother about the fuel for your first moves :)
Get the very first Rorqual of New Eden ! Auction here : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584695
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Saint Lazarus
C R Y O
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Posted - 2007.08.31 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Akiman i want my blasters able to throw throwing axes
This is teh only reply I understood therefore it wins \o/
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