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Shao'lin
Balls Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 00:38:00 -
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I've just started selling snake implants from my lp store, and I'm finding it near impossible to actually sell them... people just put up theirs for 1isk less than mine, which i put up for the same as most on market.
Is there any way to get them sold without being an evil undercutter?
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2007.08.30 01:05:00 -
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Nope. No way to stop it. Ship them out to a different location and sell them, or undercut yourself.
,,, *cough*mysig*cough*,,,,
Improve Market Competition!
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Hanoi Hana
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Posted - 2007.08.30 01:26:00 -
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 Originally by: Kylar Renpurs
Ship them out to a different location and sell them, or undercut yourself.
I don't know if that's good advice. I could undercut myself all day long... :)
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Veidiven
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Posted - 2007.08.30 03:39:00 -
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i never buy the .99 stuff if i see someone trying to undercut i skip over them.
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2007.08.30 04:00:00 -
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Unfortunately you have no choice in it if the undercutter is selling in the same station. You set a higher buy order than their sale? They sell their items to you at that higher bid.
And don't joke about undercutting yourself,,, I did that selling items once,, knocked myself down about 400 isk p/u (resulting in about a 20% loss of profit) across 3 days.
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Shao'lin
Balls Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 04:04:00 -
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I guess I'll just see if people want to buy snakes in lonetrek instead of jita.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.08.30 05:37:00 -
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If only there was a way to sell to EVERYONE instead of only one region at a time... *ponders*
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.08.30 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Shao'lin
I've just started selling snake implants from my lp store, and I'm finding it near impossible to actually sell them... people just put up theirs for 1isk less than mine, which i put up for the same as most on market.
Is there any way to get them sold without being an evil undercutter?
Selling HG imps in Jita? Heh you couldn't choose harder task to accomplish. This market is heavily camped, as you say it is almost impossible to sell anything unless you undercut by massive amount of ISK or camp all day with them.
My advice - either sell the implant off market (trade chans, contracts) or look at all Snakes and choose the one with lowest number of sell orders - see how often they update. If there is some Snake without updates in last 3 hours, you have good chance that campers don't have this one in stock and you will be able to sell it.
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Always buying: pirate implants & high-end hardwirings
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.08.30 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Veidiven
i never buy the .99 stuff if i see someone trying to undercut i skip over them.
You can't choose sell order to buy from. If you skip .99 guy and buy from order under him, you still get undercutters goods, but you pay him more than he asked. 
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Sphynx Stormlord
Gallente
Anqara Tech
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Posted - 2007.08.30 08:07:00 -
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Snake implants come from LP stores now?
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.08.30 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Sphynx Stormlord
Snake implants come from LP stores now?
The words every trader loves to hear. A consumer who doesn't know where the items he is buying comes from. And coming from someone actually posting on the forum makes it even better... as the vast majority are far less informed than those who spend time reading and posting here. Business is good when game changes are made 
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Tailhook
Caldari
Hotchies
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Posted - 2007.08.30 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
The words every trader loves to hear. A consumer who doesn't know where the items he is buying comes from. And coming from someone actually posting on the forum makes it even better... as the vast majority are far less informed than those who spend time reading and posting here. Business is good when game changes are made
Honorable people who refuse to buy from the undercutters are also good, who would say no to cashing in an a little extra  Not that game mechanics would allow you to anyway
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Sphynx Stormlord
Gallente
Anqara Tech
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Posted - 2007.08.30 12:35:00 -
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The scary thing is that I wasnt a consumer, I was a trader; and I though that they only came from npc drops now.
But maybe all the fuss earlier was about them no longer being available from Intaki Space Police, rather than just not available.
SO, have there been any change to snake availablility with this rev 2.2 patch?
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.08.30 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sphynx Stormlord
But maybe all the fuss earlier was about them no longer being available from Intaki Space Police, rather than just not available.
That is correct. 
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Always buying: pirate implants & high-end hardwirings
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Shao'lin
Balls Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 20:23:00 -
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er I was joking... serpentis missions don't give snakes from the LP store, they actually suck for running really badly. I wouldn't bother to anyone whos considering starting to run them.........
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SencneS
Amarr
Balsarferskratchin Inc
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.30 20:32:00 -
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I wish you COULD skip over the .99 seller and purchase from the one you WANT to purchase regardless of price!
If they allowed this in the game, there would be some serious market changes. Some people just can't stand 0.01 under cutters and out of spite would deliberately buy from the 0.01 higher seller.
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joebert
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.08.30 20:55:00 -
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Place orders for smaller amounts at a time.
If you're undercut, undercut them with another small batch.
If you're not undercut, you'll sell at full price, but slower & without being undercut as they wait for you to list your whole stash so they can undercut you easier, which you wont do.
Even if you end up playing undercut teeter-totter, you'll still have batches that will be the better price half the time, or the undercutter will run out of goods to undercut you with.
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Shao'lin
Balls Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.31 01:16:00 -
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i'd be willing to sell them 20m under the undercutting price just to avoid the annoyance... its that bad. Just need to find some buyers :P
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.08.31 02:15:00 -
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If you keep playing the .01 isk game, or some such similar small amount and you can't babysit your items it won't sell. Actually dropping your price by real amounts is a much better idea, less people will want to undercut you.
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Shao'lin
Balls Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.31 03:21:00 -
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I tried dropping 10m, they undercut that price.
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.08.31 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: Veidiven
i never buy the .99 stuff if i see someone trying to undercut i skip over them.
Have you heard about sell order codes?
Some use the 2 last digits, like 99, to indetify which orders are theirs.
So while .99 might be because of undercutting, its not a good rule of thumb.
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Terminus adacai
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.08.31 09:18:00 -
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LOL, if you choose Jita as your market, you already lost.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.08.31 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Shao'lin
I tried dropping 10m, they undercut that price.
You don't have to drop 10m each time. Dropping 1-2 mill each time is enough to annoy these micro-undercutters. They may just let you drop your price eventually and let you sell off so they can jump their price again.
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.08.31 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: Shao'lin
I tried dropping 10m, they undercut that price.
You don't have to drop 10m each time. Dropping 1-2 mill each time is enough to annoy these micro-undercutters. They may just let you drop your price eventually and let you sell off so they can jump their price again.
Doesn't work on this particular market. Too many people competing, too many of them being 23/7 campers.
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Always buying: pirate implants & high-end hardwirings
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.08.31 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Robacz
Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: Shao'lin
I tried dropping 10m, they undercut that price.
You don't have to drop 10m each time. Dropping 1-2 mill each time is enough to annoy these micro-undercutters. They may just let you drop your price eventually and let you sell off so they can jump their price again.
Doesn't work on this particular market. Too many people competing, too many of them being 23/7 campers.
*shrug* I am not giving uninformed advice on this particular market. If someone really wants to sell something then doing what I stated is the fastest way to sell if you're stuck to the market. But the contract system is likely better.
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