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Nyphur Pillowsoft Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.09.01 06:27:00 - [31] Originally by: Tamia Clant 500m is the cost by ME slot, and since i have 72 of them, it would actually cost the griefer 36 billion. Taking the fact that there are more research alliances out there, some of which have prices of over twice as mine, we can safely assume that it would cost over 200 billion for a griefer just for player-run ME lab slots. Good point. The cost is prohibitive in npc stations. Have you considered what would happen if someone were to use it in an outpost's research facility that was set to 0 cost? When people are going to lose an outpost, they often sabotage it. They ruin the production slots by filling them all with shuttles for a month and renew office rents to keep them locked up for 2 months. Wouldn't this allow them to permanantly destroy the labs on a caldari outpost or conquerable station? Eve-Tanking.com - We're sorry, something happened.
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.01 06:34:00 - [32] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: Tamia Clant 500m is the cost by ME slot, and since i have 72 of them, it would actually cost the griefer 36 billion. Taking the fact that there are more research alliances out there, some of which have prices of over twice as mine, we can safely assume that it would cost over 200 billion for a griefer just for player-run ME lab slots. Good point. The cost is prohibitive in npc stations. Have you considered what would happen if someone were to use it in an outpost's research facility that was set to 0 cost? When people are going to lose an outpost, they often sabotage it. They ruin the production slots by filling them all with shuttles for a month and renew office rents to keep them locked up for 2 months. Wouldn't this allow them to permanantly destroy the labs on a caldari outpost or conquerable station? That tactic in its self is messed up to be honest. There should be a "Wreck The Place" option when station changes occur to the victor go the spoils not the sour milk! Local Thread 107-b
Auron Shadowbane Teeth Of The Hydra R i s e	Posted - 2007.09.01 07:31:00 - [33] Originally by: Captian Internet Why is it that every little detail that offers danger in highsec = this you mean total bull****? ^^
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.09.01 07:34:00 - [34] Griefing is good.. This type of griefing is simply an undocumented exploit IMO.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.01 08:33:00 - [35] As owner of the largest research alliance in the game, I agree completely with Tamia. The BPO's in question have zero wastage automatically, so researching them has zero effect. If this becomes a big deal for any of you researchers out there, click the link under my sig and join the other 500+ people using my towers. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here

CCP Oveur	Posted - 2007.09.01 08:44:00 - [36] It's getting fixed. Till then, if it's being done, you can petition it. Executive Producer EVE Online

Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.01 09:10:00 - [37] Originally by: CCP Oveur It's getting fixed. Till then, if it's being done, you can petition it. Concise, to the point, and fixes a problem. Thx Oveur.
Lord MuffloN Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.01 09:14:00 - [38] Originally by: CCP Oveur It's getting fixed. Till then, if it's being done, you can petition it. Damn you! Why can't we get to greif carebears? :(
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.09.01 10:08:00 - [39] Originally by: Lord MuffloN Originally by: CCP Oveur It's getting fixed. Till then, if it's being done, you can petition it. Damn you! Why can't we get to greif carebears? :( Get some alts in enemy alliance, then tie up all their research slots for years. Said enemy can't do anything about it, so it does the same thing to your stations. Empire research slots turnr with 6 months+ wait line, griefers add multi-years jobs to the queues. Reseach become almost impossible within 2 months, important parts of the indusrty crumble, you end up paying 30% more for your ships, invention crippled, T2 price skyrocket again, and so on... The thing about griefers in Eve, is that most of their actions have indirect consequences that will end up biting them in the butt. They just don't realise it. ------------------------------------------ What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.01 10:18:00 - [40] Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Lord MuffloN Originally by: CCP Oveur It's getting fixed. Till then, if it's being done, you can petition it. Damn you! Why can't we get to greif carebears? :( Get some alts in enemy alliance, then tie up all their research slots for years. Said enemy can't do anything about it, so it does the same thing to your stations. Empire research slots turnr with 6 months+ wait line, griefers add multi-years jobs to the queues. Reseach become almost impossible within 2 months, important parts of the indusrty crumble, you end up paying 30% more for your ships, invention crippled, T2 price skyrocket again, and so on... The thing about griefers in Eve, is that most of their actions have indirect consequences that will end up biting them in the butt. They just don't realise it. Blame television. It's why most of these kiddies can't understand the concept of penalty / reward over time, wars of attrition, and have a thirty second attention spahey look! A bunny!
Lord MuffloN Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.01 10:36:00 - [41] Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Lord MuffloN Originally by: CCP Oveur It's getting fixed. Till then, if it's being done, you can petition it. Damn you! Why can't we get to greif carebears? :( Get some alts in enemy alliance, then tie up all their research slots for years. Said enemy can't do anything about it, so it does the same thing to your stations. Empire research slots turnr with 6 months+ wait line, griefers add multi-years jobs to the queues. Reseach become almost impossible within 2 months, important parts of the indusrty crumble, you end up paying 30% more for your ships, invention crippled, T2 price skyrocket again, and so on... The thing about griefers in Eve, is that most of their actions have indirect consequences that will end up biting them in the butt. They just don't realise it. Blame television. It's why most of these kiddies can't understand the concept of penalty / reward over time, wars of attrition, and have a thirty second attention spahey look! A bunny! Oh, but I'm very very aware of this, but you know, I don't take that much damage of this.
Falbala Gallente Les Enfants de Gaia	Posted - 2007.09.01 10:44:00 - [42] The worst that can happen is that unresearched BPO will become the norm for production, it will raise prices significantly but that wouldn't be the end of everything.
Lord MuffloN Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.01 10:45:00 - [43] oh and, it just might force people into lowsec and put up their own POS'es as they'll have to R'n'D them somewhere
Falbala Gallente Les Enfants de Gaia	Posted - 2007.09.01 10:53:00 - [44] Part of the problem is that it costs much more to research a ship than a low tech module or ammo, but the slot reserved is the same. So slot specialization with fixed prices would help a lot.
dgsdfgasgasgsdfg	Posted - 2007.09.01 11:02:00 - [45] Originally by: AirWalker Originally by: ttrrwafsfamfjkasjf griefing all of empire and successfully raising the average wait time of NPC slots by at least 25% of what they currently are is what this is all about. everyone get out your tin foil deflector beanies Uh maybe you are already wearing them this has nothing to do with any conspiracies...
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.01 11:37:00 - [46] Nerf Unpronounceable Forum Alts Local Thread 107-b
Drizit Amarr Lonely out here Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.01 13:07:00 - [47] Edited by: Drizit on 01/09/2007 13:10:15 I was going to set up a POS in Empire for our corp to use for research. This would allow us to avoid the NPC stations and help reduce the load. The problem is that CCP has put such a high requirement on Empire standings that we just can't do it. This even applies to a lowsec POS. I'm sure many Empire corps would do the same if the standings requirement was lowered significantly to player standings instead of corp standings. It is really annoying that so many systems in Empire have no stations and we still can't put a POS in them. I would have thought CCP would have made it more possible to put a POS in a system with no stations already by having far lower standings requirements for those systems. --
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.01 13:12:00 - [48] Originally by: Drizit Edited by: Drizit on 01/09/2007 13:10:15 I was going to set up a POS in Empire for our corp to use for research. This would allow us to avoid the NPC stations and help reduce the load. The problem is that CCP has put such a high requirement on Empire standings that we just can't do it. This even applies to a lowsec POS. I'm sure many Empire corps would do the same if the standings requirement was lowered significantly to player standings instead of corp standings. It is really annoying that so many systems in Empire have no stations and we still can't put a POS in them. I would have thought CCP would have made it more possible to put a POS in a system with no stations already by having far lower standings requirements for those systems. .3 space ftw? Local Thread 107-b
AirWalker Amarr Galactic Response Team	Posted - 2007.09.01 14:24:00 - [49] for the record i've checked 4 regions now and i've only found one of these jobs and it was my own...... and thats checking me pe and copy slots
Albert O'Balsam	Posted - 2007.09.01 15:08:00 - [50] Not only is it pretty dificult for a corp to get a POS up in high sec, its just not easy enough to make these slots rentable to the general public. I just cant be bothered with the hassle of making our labs open to the public with all the faffing about that that entails, but if there was a simple way of me being able to make my labs rentable and then just leave it to get on with it - I would do it today.
Arushia Nova Labs Empire Research	Posted - 2007.09.01 19:02:00 - [51] Originally by: Albert O'Balsam Not only is it pretty dificult for a corp to get a POS up in high sec, its just not easy enough to make these slots rentable to the general public. I just cant be bothered with the hassle of making our labs open to the public with all the faffing about that that entails, but if there was a simple way of me being able to make my labs rentable and then just leave it to get on with it - I would do it today. You may be able to join empire research as a pos-owder corp. Talk to Alvara for details. Tired of Waiting? Use Empire Research
SiJira	Posted - 2007.09.02 17:10:00 - [52] so if someone does this and is petitioned the slot can be completely refreshed as i the job was never placed? ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
KISOGOKU	Posted - 2007.09.17 16:19:00 - [53] Time to action first one spotted on TQ ,filling petition under exploit atm . 3106 days and 12 hours left for PE lvl 1. For ppl who look to it, it is at hogimo (citadel region) Originally by: CCP Oveur It's getting fixed. Till then, if it's being done, you can petition it.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.09.17 16:23:00 - [54] Originally by: Lord WarATron Originally by: Luigi Thirty I thought you couldn't set any jobs longer than 30 days now except supercaps? As Conrad Black would do, he would set multiple 29 day, 23 hour jobs :) And we all know what happened to that ****, now don't we?
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.09.17 16:32:00 - [55] Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Lord MuffloN Originally by: CCP Oveur It's getting fixed. Till then, if it's being done, you can petition it. Damn you! Why can't we get to greif carebears? :( Get some alts in enemy alliance, then tie up all their research slots for years. Said enemy can't do anything about it, so it does the same thing to your stations. Empire research slots turnr with 6 months+ wait line, griefers add multi-years jobs to the queues. Reseach become almost impossible within 2 months, important parts of the indusrty crumble, you end up paying 30% more for your ships, invention crippled, T2 price skyrocket again, and so on... The thing about griefers in Eve, is that most of their actions have indirect consequences that will end up biting them in the butt. They just don't realise it. I seem to remember you screamin EXPLOIT EXPLOIT when you were wardeced and blown up. Your one of these multi alt serial whiners. SKUNK Originally by: Jeximo I also like how your cat only managed to hit the enter button when he/she jumped on your keyboard.
34534bobalt3244	Posted - 2007.09.19 12:21:00 - [56] How many people are actually doing this?
Major Death Caldari Space Salvage Incorperated	Posted - 2007.09.19 12:36:00 - [57] Edited by: Major Death on 19/09/2007 12:36:27 Quote: How many people are actually doing this? Its EvE, so the question is more 'How quickly will they start?'. In some ways it makes sense to lockdown all the research slots to ruin your competition. I believe that a two Corps, m1cr0$0ft and @PP13 are already doing this in two different regions. My original sig was 'Enjoy lag free play in a dynamic space MMORPG'. It was remove for lack of EVE content! ;)
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.09.19 13:16:00 - [58] stupid griefers! ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.09.19 13:59:00 - [59] Originally by: Captian Internet Why is it that every little detail that offers danger in highsec = this my chum assures me that, back at the dawn of IT time, there was a snippet of code that could actually do that. apparently by a combination of setting the monitor's refresh rate to some obscenely high value, and the computer's user leaving their monitor turned on for several hours as it built up to terminal vsync, the poor old CRT would eventually detonate. alternatively, he may be a ******* liar.

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