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Kolwrath
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.30 14:55:00 -
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" Well they are not going to be like uber hacks or you know, they are not just going to be just more damage and more resist. We are really trying to have them fill a certain niche, so what we are planning on having for the Revelations 3 patch is Black Ops battleships, which are more stealth oriented, more for getting behind enemy lines, more recon types of things. Maybe some special features with perhaps their own jump drives, and their own jump portals that will only allow certain ships through."
OMG TEH WICKED! 
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Xoria Krint
The Movement
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Posted - 2007.08.30 14:56:00 -
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Wow! Thats cool news!
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:13:00 -
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Ill take one of those for ratting in 0.0 please. :)
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Khorian
Gallente
Excidium.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:13:00 -
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So what skills should we start to train up in preparation? :)
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lofty29
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:17:00 -
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Noah Ward: The other type of Tech 2 ship we haven't come up with a name yet, but it's going to be like a mission runner battleship. A huge number of our player base are not these big PvPers, they are mission runners for their empire, and you know doing their thing. While the ships will be really good at PvP, they will have things like bigger cargo bays for loot. They will have better locking times, better tracking, a lot of utility slots. Things that if you are a mission runner, what would be your ideal battle ship.
Gluck balancing that 
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Gluck balancing that
Dont really see the problem... caldari will have the best tanking, gallente will have the super high dps, amarr and minmatar gets whatever the others dont want. :)
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
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lofty29
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: lofty29
Gluck balancing that
Dont really see the problem... caldari will have the best tanking, gallente will have the super high dps, amarr and minmatar gets whatever the others dont want. :)
Uhm, I mean, what's to stop someone from flying those into PVP...having an ubertanked caldari, or a wtfhighDPS gallente bs would just create more whining *****es. Not that I don't want a t2 megathron but when they said "We dont wanna make them uber-hacs" all those months ago, I really expected them to be a little more creative than "a few more slots and a bit more tank / dps and call it a mission ship"
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Uhm, I mean, what's to stop someone from flying those into PVP...having an ubertanked caldari, or a wtfhighDPS gallente bs would just create more whining *****es
And what's to stop this from happening now? :P
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 30/08/2007 15:26:46
Originally by: lofty29
Uhm, I mean, what's to stop someone from flying those into PVP...having an ubertanked caldari, or a wtfhighDPS gallente bs would just create more whining *****es. Not that I don't want a t2 megathron but when they said "We dont wanna make them uber-hacs" all those months ago, I really expected them to be a little more creative than "a few more slots and a bit more tank / dps and call it a mission ship"
My idea is to give 100% bonus to tractor beam to double its range and speed for example. Then nobody would rather pick those ships for pvp than the current ones. Then again, it might be faster to use a normal battleship and loot afterwards with a fast ship. Then the new ships would not be used...
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:26:00 -
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Imbalance usually comes from using ships in a way that was not intended for them to be used.
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MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:31:00 -
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Noah Ward: The other type of Tech 2 ship we haven't come up with a name yet, but it's going to be like a mission runner battleship. A huge number of our player base are not these big PvPers, they are mission runners for their empire, and you know doing their thing. While the ships will be really good at PvP, they will have things like bigger cargo bays for loot. They will have better locking times, better tracking, a lot of utility slots. Things that if you are a mission runner, what would be your ideal battle ship.
You are actualy making carebear-mobiles? Seriously?
This game seems to be growing a lot of fur latley... How long till they start adding *shudder* hugs?
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Xtreem
Gallente
Naughty 40
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:34:00 -
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should be interesting
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 30/08/2007 15:36:36
Originally by: MITSUK0
You are actualy making carebear-mobiles? Seriously?
This game seems to be growing a lot of fur latley... How long till they start adding *shudder* hugs?
You might have noticed that probably every Eve player runs missions at some point. So I dont really think its a bad idea.
If these mission runner ships all have missiles as their main weapon, then we're talking. That would add something new to every race besides Caldari. Missiles are the best for missions, generally.
Or drone carriers for every race. Even sexier, since I dont really like missiles.
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
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Sli'co Scoser
Gallente
World Order
The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:44:00 -
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Why don't they just give out Gist/Pith fitted CNRs to every mission runner and a free 5 mil skillpoints in missiles and shields and call it good?
Frankly, the devs need to do some actual chatting with players from all aspects of the game (missions, PvP, industry, forum smacktalkers, etc.) to figure out what to do with the "mission" BSes before they ham-hand them up.
Also, who loots in a BS? It's all about the pimped looting/salvaging destroyers for speed and ease.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sli'co Scoser
Frankly, the devs need to do some actual chatting with players from all aspects of the game (missions, PvP, industry, forum smacktalkers, etc.) to figure out what to do with the "mission" BSes before they ham-hand them up.
Start talking then. :)
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:48:00 -
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 here we go again...
All CCP needs to do is make one of each race's battleships more mission-friendly. Raven's done, Domi could use work, I dont even want to know for the Amarr and Mimmatar.
Black Ops Battleship?! Great, I forsee the covert ops frigate soon becoming extinct...
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:50:00 -
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The bit about FW is encouraging.
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:56:00 -
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It's not possible to judge the concepts based on a tiny blurb with who knows what kind of inaccuracies, but on the surface both Covert and Mission BS make me think, "  ".
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Ithoriel
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sli'co Scoser
Also, who loots in a BS? It's all about the pimped looting/salvaging destroyers for speed and ease.
I loot and salvage in my Lootageddon 
It's called "conspicuous consumption" 
A BS with no turret/ launcher slots but with bonuses to tractor range & speed and to salvaging - sounds ideal to me.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ithoriel
A BS with no turret/ launcher slots but with bonuses to tractor range & speed and to salvaging - sounds ideal to me.
You're just going to stare them to death then? :)
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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Granmethedon III
High4Life
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.30 15:59:00 -
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Want the mission BS to stay balanced? Prevent it leavinh Hi-Sec so it can't be used in pvp.... :p
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4rc4ng3L
Finite Horizon
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: 4rc4ng3L on 30/08/2007 16:03:06
....im so confused 
This is a terrible, terrible idea ccp, if its actually true. Confusing as to why, and terrible as to WTF BALANCING!?!?
I think this is all lies, has to be! Doesnt it!! 
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Ithoriel
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:00:00 -
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I kill 'em with the Absolution, loot & salvage in the BS ..... and it should still have a drone bay ..... for the salvaging drones
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
You're just going to stare them to death then? :)
Never underestimate the wrecking hits you can get with harsh language.
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Ithoriel
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:02:00 -
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.... and anyone who's met me in chat knows I could just talk them to death
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Ironnight
Caldari
x13
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:03:00 -
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A stealthy battleship, hmmmm, however it would be nice with a battleship with its own jumpdrives.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 30/08/2007 16:05:55
Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Jim McGregor
You're just going to stare them to death then? :)
Never underestimate the wrecking hits you can get with harsh language.
I think the opponent needs to have a brain first. :) NPC's... they are like a poor terminator. Just coming straight at you, and it takes 20 of them to make a dent in your armor. :)
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Never underestimate the wrecking hits you can get with harsh language.
I lol'ed
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Raem Civrie
Sons of Enelaise
Enelaise
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kolwrath
Linkage
" Well they are not going to be like uber hacks or you know, they are not just going to be just more damage and more resist. We are really trying to have them fill a certain niche, so what we are planning on having for the Revelations 3 patch is Black Ops battleships, which are more stealth oriented, more for getting behind enemy lines, more recon types of things. Maybe some special features with perhaps their own jump drives, and their own jump portals that will only allow certain ships through."
OMG TEH WICKED!
This is almost verbatim what me, spiral, ifni and pardux discussed in denmark last month...
I r prophetic
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:17:00 -
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I like the idea of black ops battleships much better than mission runner ones.
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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