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Reprisa Gallente InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.08.31 03:10:00 - [1] Edited by: Reprisa on 31/08/2007 03:10:42 Thus, do i hereby declare war on all miscreants and tyrants out there to hastle friendly and peaceful passersby. Alas. I have mad a grevious error. I hath thought pirates of evil scum and brutes. thus Pirates Image corrects mine error. ~~~Famous for no particular Reason~~~
Bacchanalian Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.08.31 05:12:00 - [2] Interesting statement from an NBSI dog who hails from an alliance who fires on all neutrals without pause. Star Fraction is recruiting, join the revolution!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2007.08.31 05:59:00 - [3] Bacc: Are you surprised? IGS is not exactly known for its lack of hypocricy. ----- Mixed Metaphor is now recruiting! Contact me for details.
Reprisa Gallente InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.08.31 18:24:00 - [4] Ah yes. Interesting statement from someone who is NBSI controlling their own space. funny. A buddy of mine in a neutral corporation was traveling through x-70...and was suddenly set upon by Star fraction forces. To whom he was inherrently neutral. Interesting indeed. ~~~Famous for no particular Reason~~~
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.08.31 18:28:00 - [5] Originally by: Reprisa Ah yes. Interesting statement from someone who is NBSI controlling their own space. funny. A buddy of mine in a neutral corporation was traveling through x-70...and was suddenly set upon by Star fraction forces. To whom he was inherrently neutral. Interesting indeed. First, the Star Fraction has a longstanding policy of never shooting neutrals and paying recompense in the event of any accidents or mistakes. We are not an NBSI entity. Second, we do not seek to control any space, let alone the X-7OMU system. Third, provide proof that this 'buddy' of yours was a neutral and was fired on by Star Fraction forces. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Petter Sandstad Taggart Transdimensional Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.31 21:26:00 - [6] Edited by: Petter Sandstad on 31/08/2007 21:28:34 Originally by: Bacchanalian Interesting statement from an NBSI dog who hails from an alliance who fires on all neutrals without pause. Well, as your honourable leader once said that Originally by: Jade Constantine As of now, Jericho Fraction is officially a "pirate corporation" ,I don't think you should be the first to criticize IRON here. But with that being said, there's nothing wrong with NBSI. Which policy an owner of space chooses is up to the owner.
Aeaus Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.08.31 22:22:00 - [7] Originally by: Petter Sandstad Which policy an owner of space chooses is up to the owner. Owning space is an absurd idea within it's own right. I would love to see some proof of Jade ever claiming SF, even JF by itself being a pirate corporation. --
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.08.31 22:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Petter Sandstad Well, as your honourable leader once said that Originally by: Jade Constantine As of now, Jericho Fraction is officially a "pirate corporation" ,I don't think you should be the first to criticize IRON here. I am looking forward to you providing the full context to this alleged remark or better yet a link to it. Until then, it's spurious hearsay. What is known, and very well, is that TTI chose to hire the avowedly piratical M3G4 and Space Invaders corporations to attack the NVA. Perhaps you might reflect on the track-record of TTI when it comes to piracy and direct support for piracy before seeking to smear others. Further, Jericho Fraction and the Star Fraction have always followed a strong policy of not shooting at neutrals. This being so, if we are or have been 'pirates' we have been the only pirate organisation in the history of the cluster that has not shot at neutrals. Periodically these little smear campaigns crop up and just as frequently they are discredited as baseless. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Petter Sandstad Taggart Transdimensional Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.01 00:40:00 - [9] Originally by: The Cosmopolite I am looking forward to you providing the full context to this alleged remark or better yet a link to it. I am at this time unfortunately not able to retreave the original document of this, what I had were merely my own personal notes. But I can provide the full context, and I am afraid that I did not include the full context of the quote. Let me therefore just quote the end of that document, which will make it clear why she wrote it as "piracy": Originally by: Jade Constantine (Neutrals and allies need not fear, we have other fat fish to fry) Monsieur Shamis, lets speak directly and see if we can agree a neutral standing at worst, you and we have shared enemies and both wish to see the Phoenix Alliance toppled, ridiculous to shoot each other when fat PA merchantmen infest the free realms of Pureblind. Love and peace (and a hearty YARRRRR!) So I suppose it does not apply under what most people consider piracy, but then again neither would IRON's acts (which was what started this discussion). Originally by: The Cosmopolite What is known, and very well, is that TTI chose to hire the avowedly piratical M3G4 and Space Invaders corporations to attack the NVA. Perhaps you might reflect on the track-record of TTI when it comes to piracy and direct support for piracy before seeking to smear others. As you very well know these corporations did not function as hired pirates, but as mercenaries. Primitive ones I must admit, but still mercenaries. TTI has always opposed piracy, and it neither recruits nor supports pirates.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.09.01 01:03:00 - [10] POSTSCRIPT I have found the remark in question and it has a clear context: link (post 47) I think only people with absolutely no sense of humour could interpret that as anything other than a playful way of saying that Jericho Fraction would be shooting its -10 targets while, as usual, leaving neutrals alone. In other words, practising NRDS RoE. Another smear swiftly debunked. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal

Reprisa Gallente InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.01 23:06:00 - [11] leave it to JF to turn a harmless joke into intergalactic politics. lol ~~~Famous for no particular Reason~~~
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.01 23:29:00 - [12] Edited by: Mebrithiel Ju''wien on 01/09/2007 23:33:13 The only harmless joke around here is IRON. Hate to sound like a flame, but I haven't seen IRON in the intergalactic politik arena since they fled to the drone regions. Picking on Star Fractions long-term tenacity and influence in politics, considering the history they have with your former home region, you should have minded your words instead of provoking an arguement with them. Just saying... [VETO./Omerta] The families of Violence and Silence
Reprisa Gallente InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.01 23:46:00 - [13] where in my main post does it say anything about JF? lol ~~~Famous for no particular Reason~~~
Ka'lorn Font'a Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.02 04:53:00 - [14] Edited by: Ka''lorn Font''a on 02/09/2007 04:53:37 Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien The only harmless joke around here is IRON. Hate to sound like a flame, but I haven't seen IRON in the intergalactic politik arena since they fled to the drone regions. Picking on Star Fractions long-term tenacity and influence in politics, considering the history they have with your former home region, you should have minded your words instead of provoking an arguement with them. Just saying... I am quite disturbed, to find myself agreeing amicably with a pirate with the stature such as Mebrithiel, and indeed VETO. IRON fled from the North, and the Political Screen, like a cowardly dog looking for his master. The thought of a member of IRON... 'defending' stifles a laugh innocent passers by, makes me pity the innocent fools whom would trust you with their lives. Flee far, little pup. Your disillusions of 'nobleness' are just that. Disillusions.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.02 08:46:00 - [15] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 02/09/2007 08:45:58 Originally by: The Cosmopolite POSTSCRIPT I have found the remark in question and it has a clear context: link (post 47) I think only people with absolutely no sense of humour could interpret that as anything other than a playful way of saying that Jericho Fraction would be shooting its -10 targets while, as usual, leaving neutrals alone. In other words, practising NRDS RoE. Another smear swiftly debunked. The Cosmopolite But isn't it true that Jericho Fraction made a press release during their Venal days stating that neutrals would be fired upon? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.09.04 13:06:00 - [16] Originally by: Rodj Blake But isn't it true that Jericho Fraction made a press release during their Venal days stating that neutrals would be fired upon? It's my recollection that the spokesperson for the NVA, who happened to be a member of Jericho Fraction, made a press release reflecting NVA policy which Jericho Fraction itself did not agree with or act on. So, no, what you say is not true as the release was not a Jericho Fraction release. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.04 13:22:00 - [17] Originally by: The Cosmopolite Originally by: Rodj Blake But isn't it true that Jericho Fraction made a press release during their Venal days stating that neutrals would be fired upon? It's my recollection that the spokesperson for the NVA, who happened to be a member of Jericho Fraction, made a press release reflecting NVA policy which Jericho Fraction itself did not agree with or act on. So, no, what you say is not true as the release was not a Jericho Fraction release. The Cosmopolite So JF does not feel the need to follow alliance policy? Interesting... Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.09.04 15:52:00 - [18] Originally by: Rodj Blake So JF did not feel the need to follow the policy of the alliance of which they were arguably the dominant member? Interesting... As you indicate, the history of the tumultuous politics of the NVA are arguable, if not controversial. I don't think much of relevance to this topic can be drawn from it other than that Jericho Fraction, and subsequently the Star Fraction, have always placed their principles before simple political advantage. I would certainly hope that would be of interest to some. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.04 16:03:00 - [19] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 04/09/2007 16:07:12 Originally by: The Cosmopolite I don't think much of relevance to this topic can be drawn from it other than that Jericho Fraction, and subsequently the Star Fraction, have always placed their principles before simple political advantage. I would certainly hope that would be of interest to some. The Cosmopolite The relevance stems from the comments regarding NBSI policies in this thread from a JF member. It seems odd that Bacchnalian would be so dismissive of NBSI when JF used to be in an alliance practising just that. However, since I have no wish to make this thread into one about JF, rather than discuss the slippery nuances of your policies I shall simply refer interested parties to the original press release so that they may decide for themselves. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Khavi Vetali Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.09.04 18:55:00 - [20] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 04/09/2007 16:07:12 Originally by: The Cosmopolite I don't think much of relevance to this topic can be drawn from it other than that Jericho Fraction, and subsequently the Star Fraction, have always placed their principles before simple political advantage. I would certainly hope that would be of interest to some. The Cosmopolite The relevance stems from the comments regarding NBSI policies in this thread from a JF member. It seems odd that Bacchnalian would be so dismissive of NBSI when JF used to be in an alliance practising just that. I find it more telling that when said alliance decided upon a stance of NBSI, JF refused to follow that decision, instead adhering firmly to their RoE of not engaging neutral entities. I also think that the smear attempts present in this thread, most notably your own Rodj, are highly amusing. How many times now have you rehashed this same argument? __________________________

Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.09.04 19:59:00 - [21] He's tried this line of argument a lot of times. Problem is some of us were there while it was happening. Jade did those announcements because she was the PR voice for the NVA while as a corporation we resolutely refused to do the NBSI thing. This led to us getting thrown out of the NVA when it turned into the PA a couple of weeks later. But we've explained this to Rodj so many times its clear he's not interested in the facts just the same old smear. Ironic really to have a guy that gladly shelters under the protection of the NBSI IAC and friends but hey ... nobody told us Amarrians were immune to hypocrisy Star Fraction is recruiting
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.04 20:32:00 - [22] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 04/09/2007 20:35:40 And here was me thinking that the SF didn't see the relevance of their former actions in the territorialist NVA... Still, since they've never let let a lack of relevancy get in the way of a good smear, I suppose that it's to be expected. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.09.04 22:15:00 - [23] Originally by: Rodj Blake And here was me thinking that the SF didn't see the relevance of their former actions in the territorialist NVA... Still, since they've never let let a lack of relevancy get in the way of a good smear, I suppose that it's to be expected. Just as you never lose an opportunity to not so subtly insinuate something contrary to the facts. The former actions you speak of are first and foremost a refusal to compromise on our principles of never shooting neutral entities. Further, Jericho's actions within the NVA were always directed at opening the region and opposing those within that political entity that wished to close it. Please, do continue to remind people that when the NVA voted to adopt NBSI policies, Jericho Fraction refused to do so. Please, by all means, continue to give us an opportunity to point out that Jericho Fraction placed its principles before political convenience. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Reprisa Gallente InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.06 03:21:00 - [24] drama queens /o\ ~~~Famous for no particular Reason~~~
Rudy Metallo Feral Instinct	Posted - 2007.09.08 04:41:00 - [25] I'm going to kill that disgrace of a man. Say what?
Jonny Damordred Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.08 05:01:00 - [26] Originally by: Reprisa drama queens /o\ From a member of IRON, this is high comedy. Run along back to the drone regions, kid, the men are talking. Cheers, Jonny D. -----


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