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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.08.31 13:59:00 -
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I know I promised to have a second email out early this week but due to the patch, some other project and getting some resources setup this has been delayed.
I now have the forums created that we will be using, testing servers are being configured. I am still waiting on some additional tester information from our partners.
Once that is done and the new builds are in then it will be ready to go.
I will send you all a new email early next week with the updated timelines (though they still might get some other adjustments).
To all of those that missed the signup, I'm sorry but our 'roster' is full. There will be a further section to the beta progranm once we have the closed beta completed so you have not completely missed out.
I will also try to keep you all updated on our progress so that you can see what is coming.
Thanks again.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.31 18:55:00 -
[2]
Thanks for the fyi Lingorm.
Anxiously awaiting the start. 
Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE |
Valeo Galaem
InterGalactic Corp.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.08.31 20:28:00 -
[3]
Thanks for the update!
Thar be Pirates
You are not authorised to hack into CONCORD's mainframe
Your Wallet has been emptied!
CONCORD Encryption Methods |
Blue Wraith
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Posted - 2007.08.31 20:44:00 -
[4]
I got one of the new aluminum iMacs as well as a MacBook, and being a programmer and systems admin, I'd love to help beta this thing. Let us know when we can sign up for the next round. I hate I missed the first.
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.08.31 22:00:00 -
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Edited by: Kadesh Priestess on 31/08/2007 22:04:21
Lingorm, i hadn't received any emails about beta client at all despite i've signed up for testing in that thread. If email has been sent, it could have been rejected by my mailserver... isn't it better to send EVE-mail instead, if possible (and i request to do it this way if i was in mailing list, please)?
Btw, i've found job at last... so now i'm officially QA-engineer too \o/
Edit: lol, sorry, just few sec ago noticed your reply about bounced mails in another thread...
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Mannington Skank
Gallente
Allied Secret Service Operations
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Posted - 2007.09.01 07:59:00 -
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If you guys release a linux client Ill send you each 100 million isk, I promise! OoOoO.... /me waits happily.
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MonwrathDisortium
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.09.01 08:51:00 -
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I am excited to hear how this goes, thanks for keeping us updated.
I am very much looking foreward to uninstalling windows forever.
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Simon Monkoto
AirHawk Alliance
Insomnia.
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Posted - 2007.09.02 08:23:00 -
[8]
Now if I could just convince my alliance to use TS instead of ventrilo I'd be set.
Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Wachtmeister ([email protected]) |
Rexy
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.02 09:29:00 -
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i missed the beta 
they promised to use alsa for ts3, it's just it seems it will never arrive 
<unusual big structure 4tw> |
Raquel Smith
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.09.02 09:37:00 -
[10]
Looking forward to the OS X beta most! :)
Thanks for the update.
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oxman
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Posted - 2007.09.02 17:11:00 -
[11]
Thanks for the information :)
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LoneCold
Gallente
FireTech
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.09.02 18:48:00 -
[12]
Awesome, this is good news, just a shame I missed the signup :(
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Da Basher
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Posted - 2007.09.02 23:46:00 -
[13]
Yes good news... Also sorry I missed the signup :(
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Vedm
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Posted - 2007.09.03 11:29:00 -
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With a sore regret to have this Eve-Mac beta signup missed, I'm still looking forward to get into the next beta section.
Wonder if I could subscribe for the news on the subj? Is there any 'Eve-Mac' RSS of some sort? 
Or would you just put all commenters of this post on a waiting list, with a further ingame-mail notice upon the event?
Please, I'd really hate to miss the next roster-list like this.
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Merende Macaco
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Posted - 2007.09.03 16:11:00 -
[15]
Thanks for the update, was wondering when the actual testing was due to begin. Looking forward to the next email!
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Tenshi Mudo
Circle Group
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Posted - 2007.09.04 15:51:00 -
[16]
Awesome :3 Thanks for the update - I can almost feel the warmth of EVE in its glory on the 24" iMac. *drool*
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Aki Yoshioka
Caldari
The White Star Consortium
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Posted - 2007.09.05 09:39:00 -
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Edited by: Aki Yoshioka on 05/09/2007 09:39:26
 Originally by: Simon Monkoto
Now if I could just convince my alliance to use TS instead of ventrilo I'd be set.
Ventrilo works in Wine. It needs some work to make it run, but it is possible..
"Why do I work for Cloak? Three reasons. First, they pay very well. Second, the work needs to be done. Third. Hm. Well, if I told you that, I'd have to shoot you. Ha-ha. Actually, that wasn't a joke." |
Fredou
Gallente
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.09.05 16:15:00 -
[18]
nice.. and good news
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UberL0rd
Minmatar
Brotherhood of Polar Equation
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.09.05 16:52:00 -
[19]
Originally by: Aki Yoshioka
Ventrilo works in Wine. It needs some work to make it run, but it is possible..
The work being changing the default in/out from DirectSound to wave mapper - heh.
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UberL0rd
Minmatar
Brotherhood of Polar Equation
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.09.05 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Fredou
nice.. and good news
Meeeh, this is better news
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Fredou
Gallente
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: UberL0rd
Originally by: Fredou
nice.. and good news
Meeeh, this is better news
I know... i did voted up this one but it wont happen i think...
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RuriHoshino
Minmatar
The Mission Guys
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:36:00 -
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Whew. I was beginning to fear that my seven layers of spam filters had eaten any further response. Though I suppose it's still possible... hey, has anyone gotten this "new email" yet?
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.09.05 21:22:00 -
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I've got it. Glat that lingorm reminded about account name since it was the only piece i forgot to mention :)
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RuriHoshino
Minmatar
The Mission Guys
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Posted - 2007.09.06 00:46:00 -
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Okay, now I have too. This is exciting! And kudos to Lingorm for driving this forward and for keeping everyone informed. Outstanding.
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Man Enkai
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Posted - 2007.09.06 07:22:00 -
[25]
Good. Waiting for the second email with loosing my patience;)
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Hugh Ruka
Caldari
Free Traders
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Posted - 2007.09.06 20:27:00 -
[26]
Edited by: Hugh Ruka on 06/09/2007 20:28:19
hmm ... I just discovered I got a mail too ... seems I missed it :-((
but it's only good so ... I don't have time for EVE these days ...
Originally by: Aravel Thon
Originally by: Nith Batoxxx
Hi my alt just leanred to fly the ferox...............
I am so so terribly sorry...
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Vedm
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Posted - 2007.09.07 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hugh Ruka
hmm ... I just discovered I got a mail too ... seems I missed it :-((
but it's only good so ... I don't have time for EVE these days ...
Oh, may I get myself into the beta testers' roster instead of you then? Please?
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2007.09.07 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Vedm
Oh, may I get myself into the beta testers' roster instead of you then? Please?
The first email was to gather details to choose who would be in the first beta roster. Possibly not all those that replied even made it in to the roster.
The second email on the 5th is confirmation for those on the roster I guess.
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Hugh Ruka
Caldari
Free Traders
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Posted - 2007.09.07 12:23:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Solbright
Originally by: Vedm
Oh, may I get myself into the beta testers' roster instead of you then? Please?
The first email was to gather details to choose who would be in the first beta roster. Possibly not all those that replied even made it in to the roster.
The second email on the 5th is confirmation for those on the roster I guess.
I was thinking the same, that's why I made the post that I missed it. Should have used a mail that I visit more frequently :-(
Originally by: Aravel Thon
Originally by: Nith Batoxxx
Hi my alt just leanred to fly the ferox...............
I am so so terribly sorry...
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myfaith
Vertigo Project
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.07 15:31:00 -
[30]
My system is waiting for the new beta test... pls feed it! 
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Elseer Radak
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.08 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Lingorm
I know I promised to have a second email out early this week but due to the patch, some other project and getting some resources setup this has been delayed.
I now have the forums created that we will be using, testing servers are being configured. I am still waiting on some additional tester information from our partners.
Once that is done and the new builds are in then it will be ready to go.
I will send you all a new email early next week with the updated timelines (though they still might get some other adjustments).
To all of those that missed the signup, I'm sorry but our 'roster' is full. There will be a further section to the beta progranm once we have the closed beta completed so you have not completely missed out.
I will also try to keep you all updated on our progress so that you can see what is coming.
Thanks again.
Any chance of extended the closed beta sign up time frame? I never knew it was around and I'm a paid cedega user and a professional QA person. I currently can't use EVE on Linux as Cedega is limited to using one account at a time, since I pay for two full accounts, I can't use them when using Linux. I would love to help test this!
Elseer R.
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Reality: A consensual experience
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2007.09.08 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Elseer Radak
I currently can't use EVE on Linux as Cedega is limited to using one account at a time, since I pay for two full accounts, I can't use them when using Linux.
Huh? You can install as many games as you like in Cedega. It's no trouble to add a second copy of Eve.
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Akira Zendragon
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.09.08 15:47:00 -
[33]
Sweet!
I'm getting an iMac in a few weeks and currently own a G4 Powerbook. Would love to help when you open up the testing.
One step closer to ditching windows 
Join channel "Eve University" or go here |
Ellioth Swann
Amarr
Aquilia Cohors Praetoria
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.08 16:50:00 -
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Edited by: Ellioth Swann on 08/09/2007 16:50:28
I would also gladly take part in testing!
Quote:
One step closer to ditching windows
Oooooh yeah! :).
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Woodenne
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.09 10:09:00 -
[35]
Wow...you release a Linux client, you're going to get a flood of subscribers.
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badgerfruit
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Posted - 2007.09.09 20:41:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Woodenne
Edited by: Woodenne on 09/09/2007 10:39:37
Wow...you release a Linux client, you're going to get a flood of subscribers.
Sign me up.
and me !!!!!
*drools*
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Taris Arrathan
Minmatar
S.A.S
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.10 08:01:00 -
[37]
If it's possible please let me test for the MAC-client! :D
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eViLek
Rave Technologies Inc.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.09.10 08:32:00 -
[38]
I would be interested with Linux client ;)
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Agonnie
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Posted - 2007.09.10 17:21:00 -
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I play on a 20" 2GHz Core Duo iMac with 2GB RAM and a ATI X1600 with 256MB of VRAM, I'm very interested in joining the Mac beta program, I've beta-tested MMORPGs since Asheron's Call. Feel free to contact me !
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farfrael
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Posted - 2007.09.10 20:23:00 -
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got the second email on the updated email address i provided but nothing since then
that normal?
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Selenica Draper
Caldari
Nexus Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.11 00:13:00 -
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Looking forward to the clients being released
If you need more testers you can add me to the list for the Mac OS X client beta. I have two Intel Macs(Macbook & iMac) that I'd be willing to spend time testing Eve on.
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Drudenhaus
Caldari
Initrode
The Core Collective
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Posted - 2007.09.11 01:03:00 -
[42]
I could almost ditch Windows in the event a Linux client is released... Almost...
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Man Enkai
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Posted - 2007.09.11 09:45:00 -
[43]
Originally by: farfrael
got the second email on the updated email address i provided but nothing since then
that normal?
I've received only one email... still waiting for the second...
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Scott Finestone
Caldari
Transgenic Cybernetics
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Posted - 2007.09.13 22:24:00 -
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Sign me up for the Linux client
Funny that a friend of mine was joking about me going to CCP and code a Linux client for them as a summer job You've stolen my summer income! 
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Bish Ounen
Gallente
Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.09.14 13:34:00 -
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You can give my slot to someone else. I received the invitation right about the same time I got laid off. I won't be playing any games until I am gainfully employed again. Thank you for the opportunity, I'm sorry I won't be able to take advantage of it.
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Skuttis
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Posted - 2007.09.14 13:38:00 -
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Edited by: Skuttis on 14/09/2007 13:40:56
Sign me up also for Linux beta if possible.
Lack of linux client was the reason I took a break from Eve before and I really wish to keep playing eve, so will gladly helping out with beta testing.
Working with computer support so hopefully can be of good service in testing with feedback.
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Dronte
Minmatar
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.14 13:44:00 -
[47]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
To all of those that missed the signup, I'm sorry but our 'roster' is full. There will be a further section to the beta progranm once we have the closed beta completed so you have not completely missed out.
Sorry to say it but it looks like you've missed the party in this round
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Selenica Draper
Caldari
Nexus Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.16 12:17:00 -
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Any chance we will be able to get some details about the beta from players participating - or do you think there's an NDA? :)
I know the Mac client will probably get some attention from Apple, as they dedicate a page for Mac compatible games on their own website. I'm sure it will even catch the attention of current mac users who've not succumb to using Bootcamp for gaming.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 09:27:00 -
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OK Update Time!!!11ElevenOne.
I am waiting for the latest build to come through and as soon as it does I will be posting it up on our download service and sending out the link.
No there is no NDA as there is nothing 'new' in this client that is not in the current client. Testers are free to discuss there 'experience' with others we just remind them that they have been asked to help us find any bugs that are left (and I am sure they will find some) so that we can fix them before we open the software up for anyone to look at.
Any other Questions?
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.09.17 11:06:00 -
[50]
Yes, send the link already
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Amaratha
Black Screen of Death
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:18:00 -
[51]
Damn those slow folk @ Transgaming 
Prod them with a stick and gets us some beta time Lingorm My Clock is currently saying its officially "Later O Clock"
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.09.18 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: Amaratha
Edited by: Amaratha on 17/09/2007 17:21:56
Damn those slow folk @ Transgaming
Prod them with a stick and gets us some beta time Lingorm My Clock is currently saying its officially "Later O Clock"
Even closer update!
[11:40:19] <Lingorm> Mini, I am expecting the client today, and if it p[asses the tests will by added to the download service and made available to the testers later today.
ATM I'm guessing it failed a test
*pout* It didn't arrive. i am trying to chase TG at the moment.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Amaratha
Black Screen of Death
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.09.18 10:58:00 -
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Damn those slackfobs, go get 'em Lingorm! I hope we dont have this problem with future builds
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Lanarr
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Posted - 2007.09.18 21:49:00 -
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Longtime gentoo and wine user here, is it too late to partake in the official Linux client beta?
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Luucas
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Posted - 2007.09.19 03:25:00 -
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Can someone who has been using it with a Mac provide some feedback as to how it is performing etc please? I'm hoping to be able to lose bootcamp if it goes well.
Alternatively I'd be happy to test it out and provide feedback myself on my new model MBP ;)
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.09.19 09:12:00 -
[56]
State Of Play.
We had to do a new build to exclude the 'Microsoft' files from our client build so that it can be legally distributed.
I am now in the process of getting this build to TG for them to wrap it.
Will update with ETA on the installer when I know it.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Rells
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.19 16:19:00 -
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thanks for the update man. Looking forward to it immensely.
Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken! |
Zhett Haukes
Blood Corsair's
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.09.19 16:29:00 -
[58]
I suppose it is too late to sign up for this. I will just trust other mac users to test it for me!
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Skl'a Rh'a
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Posted - 2007.09.19 17:02:00 -
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Oh i'm so disappointed i just noticed this.
Well if you still need an extra tester on linux, just drop me a line through email. I would be glad to help out.
I'm an IT professional and linux enthousiast for quite some years now.
Hope to see this wrapped clients fast so i can get rid of windows on my home system.
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farfrael
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Posted - 2007.09.19 18:02:00 -
[60]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
State Of Play.
We had to do a new build to exclude the 'Microsoft' files from our client build so that it can be legally distributed.
I am now in the process of getting this build to TG for them to wrap it.
Will update with ETA on the installer when I know it.
Thanks for the update
About these Microsoft files, understand you cannot bundle them but could a list _please_ be provided so that we know which ones are required (anybody remembers the problem with the fonts?)?
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Asif BADKARMA
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.09.19 18:52:00 -
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I signed up for this before the deadline but didnt get a mail :-(
little help ?
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Mortiferus Stella
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Posted - 2007.09.19 20:29:00 -
[62]
I just got my new new MacBook Pro and I am very interested in becoming a beta tester.
This would save me from installing bootcamp and vista. I am also experienced computer user and software devloper (but only boring business applications), so I think I can help to hunt the bugs.
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Xylle Blackstar
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Posted - 2007.09.19 22:06:00 -
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I would LOVE to test the Mac client if possible
I am an IT Expert and have done alot of Beta testing in the past.
Is it possible to get in on the testing? If not then you guys need to hurry case I am sick of dualbootin ;)
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.09.20 00:31:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Xylle Blackstar
.... you guys need to hurry case I am sick of dualbootin...
Tell me about it. The only reason why I have Bootcamp is because of EVE. Otherwise I would have kicked Microsoft OS to the kerb like a 3-pence-hooker after the sailors left town.
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Thrawnfl
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Posted - 2007.09.20 06:10:00 -
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I'd like to test this out, though I know I wont be using Cedega as its Subscription based.... no way in hell im gonna pay a subscription for a game service so i can play eve which im already paying a subscription for.
But im running on wine ok'ish right now but will never fight in it, I'll stick to windows for that.
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Dronte
Minmatar
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.20 06:26:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Thrawnfl
I'd like to test this out, though I know I wont be using Cedega as its Subscription based.... no way in hell im gonna pay a subscription for a game service so i can play eve which im already paying a subscription for.
If you had been reading up on the forums you would know that CCP has hired Transgaming to work for them, meaning they have already been paid. You are not gonna get or need a full version of Cedega, you get a specially Cedega wrapped EVE Client, running in a specially made Cedega version, which can ONLY run EVE and nothing else. Therefor you do NOT need to buy a subscription for Cedega or anything else than pay your EVE subscription.
This fact has been stressed more than once on the forums. CCP will *NEVER* force anyone to pay more than the EVE subscription to be able to play EVE with an official client.
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solbright altaltaltalt
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Posted - 2007.09.20 06:50:00 -
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I think he's a bit out of touch with regard to Wine's performance also.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.09.20 15:35:00 -
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Update.
Just got off the phone with Transgaming.
Some small issues with the MS-less build that we are taking care of.
You will not need to copy ant of the files over as transgaming provide their own implementations of them in the environment. We are just going through ans seeing what is needed and what is not needed to make sure that things are all good.
Sorry for the run around on this and I hope to have better news for you early next week.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Rells
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.20 16:08:00 -
[69]
NP man. We are all eager to see it though. 
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Man Enkai
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Posted - 2007.09.20 21:15:00 -
[70]
Just keep us all up to date with all of these things. 
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Dwindlehop
Scholars Lawyers Courtiers Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.09.21 18:09:00 -
[71]
Thanks for the update, Lingorm.
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Man Enkai
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Posted - 2007.09.22 04:18:00 -
[72]
CCP Lingorm, what about new graph engine (Trinity2) : Is fellows from Transgaming ready for it?
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.09.22 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: DahMainMan on 22/09/2007 16:45:28
This may sound stupid, but i assume the actual reason its takin so long is transgameing. i bet thay are laggin on makin a actual instaler addon thingymajig. but by advice fellas. as far as this client. just get wine or buy a copy of cedega for 15 bucks. and give it a test. atleast at this point perhaps we could help out ccp hammer down a few problems even b4 we get this linux wrapper from cedega. trust me, this will take quite a while to finish. and it wil be buggy and crapy from the start. expect that from tansgaming. thay are quite small, i did not come here to bash them, but this is the way IT IS. we have a while to go till we can just run a file and get eve in linux. but its already damn near close to that.(Wine,Cedega)
so, just get eve goin in any way u can in linux, also my i advice one thing, there is a linux nvidia and ati driver installer called Envy, it will install the best drivers from ati-amd and nvidia, I get 45 more fps with a 7950 Gt. For once eve runs almost better in linux than xp, usin the 100.**. nvidia drivers. case in point, whoever said eve is what is makin linux run at lower fps?
http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
BACKUP yer darn xorg.conf file. im not gonna hole yer hand. but if i have too i will. but just goto that page, read up. download install. and update yer drivers. trust me, if all works out well. you will see liquid smooth fps. well, damn near anyhow. Hope This Helps.
Dmm Out.
 
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.22 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: Sevarus James on 22/09/2007 22:46:53
Originally by: Man Enkai
CCP Lingorm, what about new graph engine (Trinity2) : Is fellows from Transgaming ready for it?
This is a good question, but the answer is that most of the current FPS shooters using modern gfx ARE working. There are some known issues currently with shaders, but given that EVE's current engine is older than a lot of games that currently DO work via cedega using dx9c, I'd say we'll be fine when EVE's gfx get bumped up to that spec.
Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE |
Phersephone
Caldari
AFK
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Posted - 2007.09.25 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Update.
Just got off the phone with Transgaming.
Some small issues with the MS-less build that we are taking care of.
You will not need to copy ant of the files over as transgaming provide their own implementations of them in the environment. We are just going through ans seeing what is needed and what is not needed to make sure that things are all good.
Sorry for the run around on this and I hope to have better news for you early next week.
its early next week :) is there any update on this? i'm buying a new IMac this weekend and would really like to run eve on it :)
cheers
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Crimsonjade
Union Of Xtreme Military
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.26 17:45:00 -
[76]
zomg missed the sign up for beta, but but pwwweaaase keep us Mac users informed. we await mmorp heaven.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.09.27 09:19:00 -
[77]
Any updates? It is Thursday, September 27th. 
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Fredrick Engly
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Posted - 2007.09.27 12:18:00 -
[78]
RHCE, MCSE, MAX Osx User..would love to get in on this beta at some stage :).. certainly add value to you guys :)
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NETbreed
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.27 15:54:00 -
[79]
Okay, so I know I'm late to the party. I had a long hiatus from the game due to giving up my PC in favour of a MacBook Pro, and I'm only now getting back into EVE.
In the past week I've been suffering the pain of trying to play EVE using CrossOver Office and/or Parallels, with varying degrees of success. In light of said pain, I'd love the opportunity to test the EVE Mac OS X client, and as a software developer I should be able to give you useful feedback regarding bugs, etc.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.09.27 16:05:00 -
[80]
Edited by: CCP Lingorm on 27/09/2007 16:13:53
*Fanfare*
Client builds are going through the final test at Transgaming. I will be downloading them overnight and tomorrow morning (all things going well).
I will be sending out an email to the Beta testers tomorrow with instructions on the program and access information to the test server that will be used.
The client itself will be available for download on Monday for you all to have at it.
We only have 2 small issues that are not show stoppers.
These are :
Crash on Quit on the Mac client (does not seem to corrupt any files so we are going ahead)
JPEG Scaling (some avatars are missing some decorations)
There you have it. We are going ahead and you should all be testing happily next week. I am still organizing extra forum access to record your findings.
We will also be running at least 2 patch tests during the Beta program so be aware that you will be required to patch the beta to test the patching system.
EDIT : We are already working with Transgaming on the new features coming in Trinity 2 and making sure that everything will be supported on the different clients.
We are also trying to plan some EVE on alternate platform stuff for Fanfest, but this has not been confirmed yet.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Capn Hack
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.27 16:41:00 -
[81]
yay! so glad to see things are moving again. :D
i do have a couple of tiny questions if you think you could answer them. will antialiasing work in the game? cider appears to have trouble with it and some games (c&c3 antialiasing settings do nothing) but, since boot camp is the only way to get it with osx, itd really be nice to have it. also, will windowed mode be supported by the testing phase? id rather run it in a window if i can (toggling the config file setting), but im thinking theres a tiny chance that might introduce some bug that wouldnt appear in fullscreen.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.09.27 16:49:00 -
[82]
Windowed mode is disabled in the EVE client on Mac and Linux but the Transgaming wrapper has window control.
So you set the EVE Client to the Resolution you want than then resize the Window via the Transgaming tools.
I will find out about the Anti-aliasing.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Miusho
Hyrule Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.27 19:59:00 -
[83]
I want in! /cry
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Phersephone
Caldari
AFK
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Posted - 2007.09.27 20:50:00 -
[84]
nice... now please let a few more of us into the test !!!! please :)
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Bob Niac
Gallente
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.27 23:27:00 -
[85]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Windowed mode is disabled in the EVE client on Mac and Linux but the Transgaming wrapper has window control.
So you set the EVE Client to the Resolution you want than then resize the Window via the Transgaming tools.
I will find out about the Anti-aliasing.
Wait .. huh? Cider has no virtual desktop?
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myfaith
Vertigo Project
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.28 08:59:00 -
[86]
Guys don't joke... I could kill to have that client!!
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Aeon Jonas
Caldari
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2007.09.28 09:32:00 -
[87]
Please let more people in. Please! You would get sooooo much feedback it would be unreal. At least when its opened to more put it in the login announcement/news bit if you could so more people know and can get in. We don't all remember to check the forums :P.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 09:48:00 -
[88]
I would love to let more people in but our test server will only handle a certain amount of load.
There will be an Open Beta following the Closed beta but the details of that are still being decided.
As an UPDATE I have the Mac installer.
Expecting the Linux installer later today.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Khanin Gher
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Posted - 2007.09.28 10:45:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Khanin Gher on 28/09/2007 10:46:40
Thx for the update Lingorm, very much appreciated. It doesn't even matter that much if i was late to get into the closed beta (although i would still like to get in), seeing the whole thing advance makes me happy.
Soon Windows will be a memory of the past.
EDIT: Corrected a typo
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:36:00 -
[90]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Windowed mode is disabled in the EVE client on Mac and Linux but the Transgaming wrapper has window control.
So you set the EVE Client to the Resolution you want than then resize the Window via the Transgaming tools.
I will find out about the Anti-aliasing.
If the 'wrapper' hold true to cedega standards, then anti-aliasing will, or should be available in conjunction with the features specific to ati /nvidia's drivers (for linux).
That said, I never use it with the current client as while there is some "smoothing", the frame rate hit is just not worth it, and as well, the client without looks very good regardless.
It would be nice to see if this is improved over current cedega capabilities, but I'd rather have the fps personally.
That all said, I anxiously await the beginning of the testing. Thanks for the heads up Lingorm!
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Capn Hack
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:02:00 -
[91]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Windowed mode is disabled in the EVE client on Mac and Linux but the Transgaming wrapper has window control.
So you set the EVE Client to the Resolution you want than then resize the Window via the Transgaming tools.
I will find out about the Anti-aliasing.
great, thanks for that :)
i just found out that i can get antialiasing to work in parallels with the ati displays utility. so far ive not had any luck with opengl overrides and cider tho, presumably because its not actually using opengl..
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Doc Nielsen
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:24:00 -
[92]
Any news, Lingorm?
We are a great bunch of linux users out here who'd love to get weekly updates on the development of the future of our gaming system... it will be our lifeline, and we are longing to ditch microsoft OS completely.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:46:00 -
[93]
We have tested the mac client and it looks good.
Still got a few things to test with the Linux client.
I am delaying my email till monday due to some support systems no being ready.
But the files will be ready to go then and all you testers can have at it.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:53:00 -
[94]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
We have tested the mac client and it looks good.
Still got a few things to test with the Linux client.
I am delaying my email till monday due to some support systems no being ready.
But the files will be ready to go then and all you testers can have at it.
YARRBBBBQQQ!!!!!
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C4FF
Gallente
The Ninja Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.28 15:15:00 -
[95]
room for one more? im getting a macbook on monday so this would be a great way to play!
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Deadspace Dave
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Posted - 2007.09.28 19:06:00 -
[96]
I missed the call for beta testers, so I'm watching with extreme interest from the outside. Please hurry! My MacBook Pro really needs to jettison this Boot Camp partition.
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Adel Sorra
Gallente
Steel Beasts
Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 21:31:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Deadspace Dave
I missed the call for beta testers, so I'm watching with extreme interest from the outside.
Same here. I switched to linux the same day i found out i can play eve on linux with cedega
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Heypop
Gallente
Silver Star Federation
Stain Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.29 03:20:00 -
[98]
My MacBook Pro thirsts for some EvE Love
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Encad Briht
Minmatar
Space-Bar
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.09.29 07:36:00 -
[99]
Get the CrossOver Trial, works for 30 daya and EVE works right out of the box (DLs/istalls even self with the package)
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Fasthand Joe
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Posted - 2007.09.29 17:34:00 -
[100]
I'm curious; what exactly the Cedega-based Linux client will offer over a standard Linux+Wine installation?
If the 'update' process will work; that'd be good... as that's the only thing I see obviously not working on my Linux+Wine installation. With each EVE update; I have to d/l the 'whole' 600Mb client instead of just using the auto-updater.
FHJ.
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Guardian Angell
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:11:00 -
[101]
That's great! Could I join the testing? Mac Mini 1.83Ghz Core Duo. EVE works on Crossover for me, with sound too (till 2 patches ago).
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Posted - 2007.09.29 23:33:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Fasthand Joe
If the 'update' process will work; that'd be good... as that's the only thing I see obviously not working on my Linux+Wine installation. With each EVE update; I have to d/l the 'whole' 600Mb client instead of just using the auto-updater.
Since binaries should be the same, i guess that wrapper/installer will ship as package (that should be installed as usual package into root), and it will automatically download+install game to home folder for each user (~/.eve most probably), so that theoretically 2 or more users should dl game corresponding number of times (ofc there'll be ways to avoid it, but they're not so user-friendly).
And this package will be used to run eve... transgaming supplies us with package... CCP with game client...
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solbright altalt
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.29 23:43:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Fasthand Joe
I'm curious; what exactly the Cedega-based Linux client will offer over a standard Linux+Wine installation?
It's about convenience. Not having to worry about getting all the dependencies yourself. The same reason why people pay for certain Linux distros.
Quote:
With each EVE update; I have to d/l the 'whole' 600Mb client instead of just using the auto-updater.
You might want to try using the auto-patcher again. Works flawlessly for me. As does downloading the patch and manually running that.
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Leliel Gehenna
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Posted - 2007.09.30 22:07:00 -
[104]
Will the new Eve Client also be available for Linux and Mac on or soon after its release? It seems like a waste to put effort into porting the existing Eve client to other operating systems when there's a new version on the horizon.
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Makko Verillia
Caldari
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.01 03:13:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Makko Verillia on 01/10/2007 03:14:30
I have kind of a fundamental question. How hard is the framerate hit going to be? I've used EVE in WINE, Cedega, on XP, on Vista, etc. all on the same hardware. I would like to see a significant framerate increase over an EVE+WINE or even current EVE+Cedega. Will this happen?
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Capn Hack
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.01 03:41:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Makko Verillia
Edited by: Makko Verillia on 01/10/2007 03:14:30
I have kind of a fundamental question. How hard is the framerate hit going to be? I've used EVE in WINE, Cedega, on XP, on Vista, etc. all on the same hardware. I would like to see a significant framerate increase over an EVE+WINE or even current EVE+Cedega. Will this happen?
i cant speak for cedega, but cider (transgamings wrapper for osx) performs extremely well with the games that have been 'ported' using it so far. i assume that having transgaming themselves working with ccp on this will give very close to native performance with cedega too, and it should certainly be better than a less tweaked port using something like wine.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 13:39:00 -
[107]
Mail Sent with instructions and the link to the Mac download.
Will email again with the link to the Linux version when it has passed the internal check and has been uploaded to the download service.
Have fun Mac Testers.
Linux Testers soon I promise.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.10.01 13:55:00 -
[108]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Mail Sent with instructions and the link to the Mac download.
Will email again with the link to the Linux version when it has passed the internal check and has been uploaded to the download service.
Have fun Mac Testers.
Linux Testers soon I promise.
Downloading now.... YAY... You have no idea how long I have been waiting for this. I really hope we could kick this baby out real soonish...
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Instructist
Caldari
Meat 2 Veg
The Omni Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.01 13:57:00 -
[109]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Linux Testers soon I promise.
can't wait :)
do you happen to know if desktop switching will be disabled in the linux client ? it would help the disabling of windowed mode (like we allready use in cedega)
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Capn Hack
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.01 14:10:00 -
[110]
nice one, thats the first (reasonably) on-time delivery ive had in a long time :)
just a heads up, safari was giving me cheek about downloading the disk image so any mac users with stalled/incomplete downloads should attempt it with firefox instead.
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Raquel Smith
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.01 14:48:00 -
[111]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Mail Sent with instructions and the link to the Mac download.
Downloaded, installed, but the darn thing still says incompatible release when I put the IP in place of Tranquility.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.10.01 14:59:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Jinx Barker on 01/10/2007 15:01:31
Originally by: Raquel Smith
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Mail Sent with instructions and the link to the Mac download.
Downloaded, installed, but the darn thing still says incompatible release when I put the IP in place of Tranquility.
They are working on it, same here.
Also, try not to exit the client, it currently crashes on exit no matter what you do and you need hard reboot. You can not force-quit it either, if you Apple/Tab out. So just let it run, but, she sure as hell eating my CPU I am running activity monitor and my CPU load is at 45% . She only used 606 MB/of 2GB RAM, which is a blessing.
Edit:
Best way to Quit the client at the moment: Command/Tab out of the client, then, Use your Activity Monitor, and then "Force-Quit" the client from the activity monitor, the only way to quit the client w/o hard reboot.
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Capn Hack
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:03:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Capn Hack on 01/10/2007 15:07:50
edit: err.. yea, see post below :)
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Raquel Smith
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:05:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Jinx Barker
Edited by: Jinx Barker on 01/10/2007 15:01:31
Originally by: Raquel Smith
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Mail Sent with instructions and the link to the Mac download.
Downloaded, installed, but the darn thing still says incompatible release when I put the IP in place of Tranquility.
They are working on it, same here.
Also, try not to exit the client, it currently crashes on exit no matter what you do and you need hard reboot. You can not force-quit it either, if you Apple/Tab out. So just let it run, but, she sure as hell eating my CPU I am running activity monitor and my CPU load is at 45% . She only used 606 MB/of 2GB RAM, which is a blessing.
Edit:
Best way to Quit the client at the moment: Command/Tab out of the client, then, Use your Activity Monitor, and then "Force-Quit" the client from the activity monitor, the only way to quit the client w/o hard reboot.
Use Command+enter to go to windowed mode! Then you have access to dock and such and things to force quit it.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:08:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Raquel Smith
Use Command+enter to go to windowed mode! Then you have access to dock and such and things to force quit it.
Thank You. did not even think about that.
It still wont quit for me properly, even with dock access.
Have to use the AM to force quit it.
But the Windowed Mode is good. Much easier access.
Thanks again.
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Raketefrau
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:11:00 -
[116]
Ironically, I've got Eve working fine in Crossover, no complaints.
What's keeping me in Windows is EveMon.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:16:00 -
[117]
Edited by: CCP Lingorm on 01/10/2007 15:17:25
OK people. maybe I did not put in in the email clear enough.
You need to wait for the client to get it's status information from Tranquility (Incompatible Protocol) and THEN enter the test server IP and move out of the server box. The client will THEN get the connection information from the test server and you should be able to log in.
We are aware of the Crash on Quit issue and it only applies to the Log in screen on the Mac (we are hoping to get a fix soon) but it was deemed acceptable to continue with that issue.
There is also an image scaling issue with portraits but it is graphical only.
PS I has the Linux clients. Am uploading them as I type ...
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Raquel Smith
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.01 16:09:00 -
[118]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Edited by: CCP Lingorm on 01/10/2007 15:17:25
OK people. maybe I did not put in in the email clear enough.
You need to wait for the client to get it's status information from Tranquility (Incompatible Protocol) and THEN enter the test server IP and move out of the server box. The client will THEN get the connection information from the test server and you should be able to log in.
We are aware of the Crash on Quit issue and it only applies to the Log in screen on the Mac (we are hoping to get a fix soon) but it was deemed acceptable to continue with that issue.
There is also an image scaling issue with portraits but it is graphical only.
PS I has the Linux clients. Am uploading them as I type ...
No joy still.
I start Eve, go into window mode
Wait for Tranquility to display its status (Incompatible (Release))
Change the IP, click outside the box. Status still is Incompatible (Release)
Enter my username/password and hit connect. Error dialogue.
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Bob Niac
Gallente
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 16:55:00 -
[119]
Yep.
This morning EST (or is it EDT? i dun care.) the server was not avialable. Now server is ping-able, but autopatch doesnt kick in/server doesnt like the client.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:18:00 -
[120]
There was an error in the IP Address I gave you.
Updated email sent out with the Correct IP address for the Test Server.
Sorry for the Confusion.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Raquel Smith
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:26:00 -
[121]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
There was an error in the IP Address I gave you.
Updated email sent out with the Correct IP address for the Test Server.
Sorry for the Confusion.
Cheers. Now it complains about my username/password.
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:38:00 -
[122]
Had you followed instructions describing your login/password? They're not the same as on TQ
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Raquel Smith
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:41:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Kadesh Priestess
Had you followed instructions describing your login/password? They're not the same as on TQ
Yep. tried my account name as the login and password and still no dice. Tried even with common misspellings.
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Khanin Gher
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:51:00 -
[124]
Thx for the update Lingorm. Are the mails for the linux testers out the door too? If so, guess i'll have to wait for public beta.
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Man Enkai
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:59:00 -
[125]
Yeah. Waiting in progress. Waiting for the Email of the month - a letter with magic link. Penguins in space!
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RuriHoshino
Minmatar
The Mission Guys
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Posted - 2007.10.01 18:05:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Raquel Smith
Yep. tried my account name as the login and password and still no dice. Tried even with common misspellings.
Same problem here. Case sensitive?
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Bob Niac
Gallente
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 18:12:00 -
[127]
Nod both accounts shot down. tried capitalizing letters, etc.
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Bob Biac
Caldari
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 18:14:00 -
[128]
Note: acct #2
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Asperger
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.01 18:15:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Man Enkai
Yeah. Waiting in progress. Waiting for the Email of the month - a letter with magic link. Penguins in space!
Hopefully, soon!
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Andrew Highwind
Caldari
Highwind Galactic State
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Posted - 2007.10.01 21:14:00 -
[130]
I'm also getting the whole invalid username/password error.
I figure everything should be sorted out by the time I get home from work, but I'd just like to add my voice to those that can't login right now because of that.
But, so far it looks awesome, and I can't wait to fully test it!
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.10.01 21:33:00 -
[131]
Yea, User Name/Password is obviously an issue.
I only see 4 users online on the server, and I assume that it is not reflective of the actual number of testers.
So, we just have to wait on the password issue clarification.
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.01 23:50:00 -
[132]
About yer fps and what not, be advised to get max fps, install the 100.**.*** nvidia driver. not sure about ati.
if u want its automated, then install the envy program.
envy can also instal ati drivers. USE IT! i got 45 more fps by drivers alone, ppl have to realise. the problem is NOT with linux or eve or wine/cedega. its the videocards own drivers that are causing this lowerd fps. once wine is optimized, code wise we will get proly another 10-20 fps..thats it.
btw, tested eve with wine .45 or whatever it is, and it runs with no flaws..just a bit of mouse flicker. AWSOME.
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aquontium
Gallente
Fourth Circle
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2007.10.02 01:44:00 -
[133]
I'm getting username/username and username/password errors for both my accounts (and yes I'm registered for the beta ).
As the mac feedback forums don't seem to exist yet, I'd also mention that Eve hung when I quit from login screen, with 'Do not display this message again' checked. It took a quick fiddle with the power button for my Mac to love me again.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.10.02 04:09:00 -
[134]
Originally by: aquontium
I'm getting username/username and username/password errors for both my accounts (and yes I'm registered for the beta ).
As the mac feedback forums don't seem to exist yet, I'd also mention that Eve hung when I quit from login screen, with 'Do not display this message again' checked. It took a quick fiddle with the power button for my Mac to love me again.
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
We are aware of the Crash on Quit issue and it only applies to the Log in screen on the Mac (we are hoping to get a fix soon) but it was deemed acceptable to continue with that issue.
There is also an image scaling issue with portraits but it is graphical only.
And
Use Command+enter to go to windowed mode
Use Activity Monitor to force quit EVE client
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.02 09:06:00 -
[135]
There was an issue with the script that created the account. It added some numbers to the passwords.
Please email me and I will send you your passwords for the test server.
For your information when submitting bugs the build number of this client is : 37464
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Dronte
Minmatar
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.02 09:23:00 -
[136]
Any news on the Linux client, Lingorm?
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.02 09:51:00 -
[137]
Linux client should be up for download later today (GMT).
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:01:00 -
[138]
Un update, for those who will be logging in the first time:
Be patient, it takes a while to actually log into the server.
You will see "Acquiring Bulk Data" - for a while, and then it will load, so do not Quit/Re-Enter it wont help, just go have soda, feed your fish, or something, then it will work.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:22:00 -
[139]
You bad bad people ..... you broke it *grin*
Test server rebooting.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Aeon Jonas
Caldari
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:27:00 -
[140]
Is there any possible idea at all of a roughish date for when it will be opened for others to test at all? Even the end of this year? Or what? Sometihng to give us hope. I thout fdor a nice surprise that it may be fully realaesed and tested fully when Rev 3 comes out. That would be a huge launch. Though I doubt that will happen considering how soon it is supposed to be and how far testing is in.
Also is the server that you are testing on isolated like Test Server (Sisi) or is it actually engrossed on the Tranq server?
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:31:00 -
[141]
We have worked hard internally and the closed beta is more of a sanity check of the client.
We are still confirming final Dates for release but we will be having an Open Beta Phase, which will be run against Tranquility.
My estimate is that you should see full support for this on tranquility in a couple of weeks and full availability soon after that.
But please do not quote me on it, these are my guesses not confirmed facts.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Aeon Jonas
Caldari
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:35:00 -
[142]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
We have worked hard internally and the closed beta is more of a sanity check of the client.
We are still confirming final Dates for release but we will be having an Open Beta Phase, which will be run against Tranquility.
My estimate is that you should see full support for this on tranquility in a couple of weeks and full availability soon after that.
But please do not quote me on it, these are my guesses not confirmed facts.
Sorry to ask but I didn't quite understand. The Open Beta hpase when run against Tranq that means not on Tranq but on seperate server liek Sisi. Sorry I had to get up early today, my brain is fried.
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Dronte
Minmatar
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:58:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Aeon Jonas
Edited by: Aeon Jonas on 02/10/2007 10:41:45
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
<snip>
Sorry to ask but I didn't quite understand. The Open Beta phase when run against Tranq that means not on Tranq but on seperate server like Sisi? Sorry I had to get up early today, my brain is fried.
EDIT: Shocking spelling mistakes
It means that open beta will be able to connect to TQ, the current closed beta runs on a completely seperate server, not TQ and not sisi. If it werent to be run on TQ in the open beta phase it would mean a LOT of work for GM's copying users to the new server etc.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.02 12:19:00 -
[144]
I am getting a couple of questions about travelling.
The test server loads systems 'On demand' not at startup.
This means that there could be delays on moving/jumping/gating into a system. Just wait a couple of minutes for the system to load and try again.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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XiZ0r
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.02 12:28:00 -
[145]
Damn I missed for the first beta test, just got my new iMac 24"..
Hope I still can get on the test list.. *wink wink*
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.02 12:42:00 -
[146]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
I am getting a couple of questions about travelling.
The test server loads systems 'On demand' not at startup.
This means that there could be delays on moving/jumping/gating into a system. Just wait a couple of minutes for the system to load and try again.
A fact of life for us 0.0'ers post downtime every time. lol. Welcome to smack talking gates. :D
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.10.02 18:50:00 -
[147]
Edited by: Kadesh Priestess on 02/10/2007 18:52:07
In case i hadn't chance to check if my login/pass are correct should i send email requesting new login/password or not? If former, isn't it better to send them everyone without any requests?
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:04:00 -
[148]
Some days you can't win.
I have just been informed that we have had a fan failure on the testing server that we are using for the Test Server. it now keeps overheating and shutting down.
We are organising a replacement ASAP and I will let you know how we are going with that as SOON as I have news.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:29:00 -
[149]
Linux client yet? or problems?
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 11:18:00 -
[150]
The Linux Client is up and ready to go, but I am waiting to send out instructions till we have the server replaced.
Should still be today though.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 11:27:00 -
[151]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Some days you can't win.
I have just been informed that we have had a fan failure on the testing server that we are using for the Test Server. it now keeps overheating and shutting down.
We are organising a replacement ASAP and I will let you know how we are going with that as SOON as I have news.
Only one word comes to mind here: M U R P H Y
Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE |
rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.10.03 11:44:00 -
[152]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
The Linux Client is up and ready to go, but I am waiting to send out instructions till we have the server replaced.
Should still be today though.
wewt !
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Coniglietta Magica
The Burning Orphans
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.03 14:36:00 -
[153]
You could replace the fan =)
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Khanin Gher
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Posted - 2007.10.03 14:37:00 -
[154]
Very nice Lingorm.
*Khanin Gher sends Mr Murphy far far away, in the hope he doesn't screw up the chance of receiving instructions for the beta.*
Mr Murphy has bin here for long enough.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 15:59:00 -
[155]
Email Sent.
Linux install is now available.
Have fun and remember that this is not a high spec server and if you ALL log in at once then it will lag, so please be gentle.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Dronte
Minmatar
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:14:00 -
[156]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Email Sent.
Linux install is now available.
Have fun and remember that this is not a high spec server and if you ALL log in at once then it will lag, so please be gentle.
I SO owe you a beer at the fanfest! :)
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Khanin Gher
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:17:00 -
[157]
Apparently Mr murphy wasn't quite as far away as i would have liked. Guess i'll have to wait for the open beta.
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 17:19:00 -
[158]
I had some problems with spaces at the end of the md5 link. Just a heads up in case someone gets problems with the md5 verification. (Remove the extra spaces and it should download the correct file instead of a 404 error thingy.)
(This applies to the linux version.)
2007-07-19 20:26
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Trek
Minmatar
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 17:51:00 -
[159]
I had some problems with the installer from the debian package. it seems to add an additional .md5 to the filename. I changed a bit in the updater.py file to fix it... But I somewhat doubt I'm allowed to redistribute the file . Anyone with some programming experience can do it, even I who have never written a line of python in my life!
Is this something others have experienced too?
Trying to start the game now...!
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 17:56:00 -
[160]
Edited by: Scorpyn on 03/10/2007 17:55:52
Originally by: Trek
I had some problems with the installer from the debian package. it seems to add an additional .md5 to the filename. I changed a bit in the updater.py file to fix it... But I somewhat doubt I'm allowed to redistribute the file . Anyone with some programming experience can do it, even I who have never written a line of python in my life!
Is this something others have experienced too?
Trying to start the game now...!
This is related to the previous post I made. Instead of right-click+save as, just copy the link and download it that way. If you check the contents of the md5 file, it'll probably just be a 404 error html thingy.
2007-07-19 20:26
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Redrig Bayer
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.03 17:59:00 -
[161]
Have I missed it in thread, or have we yet to get the beta forums for the test plans etc.?
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farfrael
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:05:00 -
[162]
Will Eve also continue working with the "normal" version of Cedega?
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Trek
Minmatar
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:12:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Scorpyn
Edited by: Scorpyn on 03/10/2007 17:55:52
Originally by: Trek
I had some problems with the installer from the debian package. it seems to add an additional .md5 to the filename. I changed a bit in the updater.py file to fix it... But I somewhat doubt I'm allowed to redistribute the file . Anyone with some programming experience can do it, even I who have never written a line of python in my life!
Is this something others have experienced too?
Trying to start the game now...!
This is related to the previous post I made. Instead of right-click+save as, just copy the link and download it that way. If you check the contents of the md5 file, it'll probably just be a 404 error html thingy.
Nope, I had already noticed the two %20 in the link and I had downloaded the correct checksum. So it is a completly different error! But if I am the only one experiencing it, so much the better.
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:19:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Trek
Originally by: Scorpyn
Edited by: Scorpyn on 03/10/2007 17:55:52
Originally by: Trek
I had some problems with the installer from the debian package. it seems to add an additional .md5 to the filename. I changed a bit in the updater.py file to fix it... But I somewhat doubt I'm allowed to redistribute the file . Anyone with some programming experience can do it, even I who have never written a line of python in my life!
Is this something others have experienced too?
Trying to start the game now...!
This is related to the previous post I made. Instead of right-click+save as, just copy the link and download it that way. If you check the contents of the md5 file, it'll probably just be a 404 error html thingy.
Nope, I had already noticed the two %20 in the link and I had downloaded the correct checksum. So it is a completly different error! But if I am the only one experiencing it, so much the better.
odd... because I got the additional .md5 at the end at first aswell, but that was with the extra spaces, and when I removed them I didn't get that anymore...
Anyway, a much simpler way than editing a file to fix it would be to simply rename the file
2007-07-19 20:26
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Trek
Minmatar
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:27:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Scorpyn
odd... because I got the additional .md5 at the end at first aswell, but that was with the extra spaces, and when I removed them I didn't get that anymore...
Anyway, a much simpler way than editing a file to fix it would be to simply rename the file
Great minds think alike, I tried that first too!
Leading to it trying to untar whatever.dat.md5 which of course didn't work out that well either!
Anyhow, does the client work for you (and others)? I get splash and crash...
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LinDon
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:32:00 -
[166]
I got this:
F1 2007-10-03 20:31:42,334 INFO In verify_md5 with /home/linuxdonald/Desktop/EveOnline-linux-000769.dat.md5
F1 2007-10-03 20:31:42,335 INFO In /home/linuxdonald/Desktop
F1 2007-10-03 20:31:42,344 INFO Running md5sum -c EveOnline-linux-000769.dat.md5.md5
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Coniglietta Magica
The Burning Orphans
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:35:00 -
[167]
I am getting:
Sorry, we were unable to unpack the game in the temporary directory /home/jeremy/.cedega/.game_updating.
It looks like it is trying to unpack the md5 file?
F1 2007-10-03 12:32:09,533 INFO Running md5sum -c EveOnline-linux-000769.dat.md5
F1 2007-10-03 12:32:12,541 INFO Killing progress bar...
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Trek
Minmatar
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:37:00 -
[168]
Originally by: LinDon
I got this:
F1 2007-10-03 20:31:42,334 INFO In verify_md5 with /home/linuxdonald/Desktop/EveOnline-linux-000769.dat.md5
F1 2007-10-03 20:31:42,335 INFO In /home/linuxdonald/Desktop
F1 2007-10-03 20:31:42,344 INFO Running md5sum -c EveOnline-linux-000769.dat.md5.md5
Yeah that looks an awful lot like the problem I had.
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LinDon
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:44:00 -
[169]
I find an way:
You must copy the *.*dat and *.*dat.md5 file in the trash and then you must type in the konsole eve single user isntall and when the setup ask about the *.*dat file you must copy the *.*dat and *.*dat.md5 in the same folder and chosse the *.*dat file over the setup programm and than setup will go :)
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Somied
Caldari
Princeps Corp
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:44:00 -
[170]
I installed game succesfully but it doesn't start and I don't know what could be the problem.
I run /usr/bin/eve and checks download, untars game, everything seems to be fine, until it tries to start the game:
Last part of console output:
F1 2007-10-03 20:35:13,775 INFO In Updater::need_update. Needs updating list is:
F1 2007-10-03 20:35:13,776 INFO [False, False, False, False, False]
F1 2007-10-03 20:35:13,777 INFO Perform the update.
F1 2007-10-03 20:35:13,777 INFO In cleanup_tempdir
Running... /home/arcepi/.cedega/.ui/runGUI
arcepi@lithium /usr/bin $ err:client:receive_fd FD went missing; attempting recovery
wine client perror:0: write/writev: Bad file descriptor
And then nothing happens.
If I run ps, I get a 'wineserver' process in 'Traced' state:
arcepi 8793 0.0 0.2 7296 1060 ? Ts 20:35 0:00 /home/arcepi/.cedega/.winex_ver/winex-eveonline-000038/winex/bin/wineserver
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Instructist
Caldari
Meat 2 Veg
The Omni Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:59:00 -
[171]
anyone able to login at all ?
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Trek
Minmatar
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:12:00 -
[172]
Edited by: Trek on 03/10/2007 19:13:32
Originally by: LinDon
I find an way:
You must copy the *.*dat and *.*dat.md5 file in the trash and then you must type in the konsole eve single user isntall and when the setup ask about the *.*dat file you must copy the *.*dat and *.*dat.md5 in the same folder and chosse the *.*dat file over the setup programm and than setup will go :)
Good find! It only misbehaves when the installer finds the files in one of a few predetermined directories.
Putting the dat and md5 in a subdirectory and browsing for them manually in the installer will do the trick.
edit: Still no success with running the client however...
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:17:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Trek
Anyhow, does the client work for you (and others)? I get splash and crash...
I got far enough to know that my password didn't work
Did you run the configure thingy before trying to start the game?
(I'm running 64 bit ubuntu here btw)
2007-07-19 20:26
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Coniglietta Magica
The Burning Orphans
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:22:00 -
[174]
Nice catch, Also if you have tried to install it in multiuser mode into a different folder you will have to install to that folder to get it to work. (I hope)
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Coniglietta Magica
The Burning Orphans
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:26:00 -
[175]
Ok, I went from splash to black screen like the Arial fonts are not installed.
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Moriiko
Nakama
Gemini Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:47:00 -
[176]
Hey, i signed up for the beta test and had all the emails since except the one with the link?
Was i removed :o :(
I would appreciate some help with this one :)
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Coniglietta Magica
The Burning Orphans
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:49:00 -
[177]
So what we know so far:
1. The files must be stored outside of the home directory. Create a sub directory and put them in there. You can keep the .deb file in the home directory.
2. Install the deb file.
3. Run the EVE icon, this will eventually prompt you to brows to the installation package, and allow you to install.
4. If at any point you have tried to do a multiuser install you need to do a multiuser install to get eve to install otherwise it still thinks that it needs to be installed into the multi user directory.
5. For me I am able to load eve, I get a splash screen then a black screen as if there are no fonts installed. I tried to install fonts manually and this still did not fix the issue.
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Man Enkai
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:51:00 -
[178]
Edited by: Man Enkai on 03/10/2007 19:52:02
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Email Sent.
Linux install is now available.
Have fun and remember that this is not a high spec server and if you ALL log in at once then it will lag, so please be gentle.
Email wasn't received :(
The only one was "Welcome to the Linux/Mac Beta Test Program" from Shay S. McAulay.
 which was replied with my account and other details...
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Coniglietta Magica
The Burning Orphans
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:14:00 -
[179]
Ok,
6. Add:
audio=0
audiodriver=0
voiceenabled=0
to the prefs.ini
I can see the login screen =)
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Bob Niac
Gallente
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 20:52:00 -
[180]
shouldnt have to disable sound and voice is not active on the beta node
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Valeo Galaem
New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:20:00 -
[181]
Edited by: Valeo Galaem on 03/10/2007 21:33:02
I get splash and crash on the Linux client. Trying to get some logs to send in a bug report.
I've been running EVE via Wine for 6 months so I doubt its my system configuration.
..and BTW, at the moment, EVE is easier to set up under Wine than using Transgaming's option. Installation needs to be more streamlined if nothing else.
EDIT: I can run Transgaming's build of EVE using Wine just fine, no splash and crash. I would like to run the Log Server but I don't know how to run it in the same Cedega environment as EVE. Can anyone give a quick run through? Until I can at least do this, there is nothing I can test.
Thar be Pirates
You are not authorised to hack into CONCORD's mainframe
Your Wallet has been emptied!
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:30:00 -
[182]
I'm pretty sure that automatic (without any questions, or with minimum amount of) installer will be shipped with the final version
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:44:00 -
[183]
i have been able to install the EVE online client on my linux debian system using the .deb package , the .dat file and the .md5 file .
i had only to add the "python2.4-dbus" package using :
$ apt-get install python2.4-dbus
after this i have been able to run :
$ dpkg -i eveonline_000035_all.deb
after that running "eve" from console as user i have accepted the license and following the instructions i have installed the game (i had to manually select the folder where to find the .dat file , some users have already reported it on forums ) .
after install , when i run the game i can see the splash screen and i have audio too.
The problem is that I CANT login inside the game , it give me error about password .
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UberL0rd
Minmatar
Brotherhood of Polar Equation
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:46:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Jinmey
The problem is that I CANT login inside the game , it give me error about password .
I have the same issue. You need to email Shay for your password.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:47:00 -
[185]
Something has gone horribly wrong with my Mac client....
Few hrs back Bob Niac and I were happily shooting at jove battleships - and then.... this happened:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0710/EVE-Gone_Bad.png
Basically I get a flashing screen, like my video went or something happened... I do not know.
All I know I can login into Server, but I cant really do anything because I have them crazy lines running through my screen.
I removed EVE and reinstalled it again, did not help.
Any of you guys know if I can hard-rset settings somewhere in the files itself/package contents?
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Bish Ounen
Gallente
Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:20:00 -
[186]
I'm getting this error:
"The game package appears to have been corrupted.
md5sum returned this errorcode: 256"
when first starting EVE. It tries to download the GUI updates and then errors out with this error.
Anyone have a clue what this means?
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Coniglietta Magica
The Burning Orphans
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:29:00 -
[187]
Dude, the answer to your questions are above.
Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
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Bish Ounen
Gallente
Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:48:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Coniglietta Magica
Dude, the answer to your questions are above.
Dude, no they aren't.
I have done EVERYTHING specified in the previous pages and still I get the error I already mentioned. The biggest thing I am seeing is that everyone else is stating that after clicking the EVE icon in the menu, it asks you to "browse to the installer". Yeah, I NEVER get this. I get the agreement, the single/multi user selection option, and then it just goes straight to downloading the updated GUI, and then the failure error. So no, the stuff above doesn't help, I wouldn't have posted if it did.
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Coniglietta Magica
The Burning Orphans
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:52:00 -
[189]
Did you copy the .deb and the .md5 into a different directory?
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Bish Ounen
Gallente
Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:57:00 -
[190]
Yep. Plunked them into a sub-directory to start out, so I never actually ran into this issue. However, I think i solved part of it. for some reason firefox copied a .part file of the md5 into my home directory. I suspect I have a corrupted download. I'm going to wget both the dat and the md5 files and try again.
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Coniglietta Magica
The Burning Orphans
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:30:00 -
[191]
did you modify the py scripts at all? if not it sounds like it is corrupt.
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Bish Ounen
Gallente
Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:53:00 -
[192]
Nope, didn't touch the py scripts. i already had the latest version of python installed, so i didn't have any need to mess with them.
I actually DID get it to finally install. I simply selected the "Download from the internet" option, and the installer automatically pulled in the files it needed from Cedega and it installed just fine.
I do suspect a corrupt .dat file from the e-mail link though, since the auto-download feature did NOT download the .dat and md5 from the same location. So I'd imagine that we have a corrupt .dat file on CCP's download site that simply needs to be replaced.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 02:14:00 -
[193]
Password problem here. Emailed for it.
The installer worked perfectly here on an ubuntu 7.04 machine. (Of course, I'm already a cedega customer, so it better!  ) The gdebi installation of the .deb file was my method of installation as "single user".
The .md5 worked after page >save as and getting rid of the trailing stuff.
Game launched and got to the log in screen with no issues. It defaults to 640x480 fullscreen, but closing the client restored proper rez to the machine (which was an issue with cedega's client FS in the past.)
Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE |
Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.10.04 03:43:00 -
[194]
Edited by: Kadesh Priestess on 04/10/2007 03:43:43
Quote:
The game package appears to have been corrupted.
md5sum returned this errorcode: 256
I have this one too. Non-modified files (except for removal of additional spaces from md5 link before i've downloaded it), single-user install option.
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 05:05:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Bish Ounen
Edited by: Bish Ounen on 03/10/2007 22:32:48
I'm getting this error:
"The game package appears to have been corrupted.
md5sum returned this errorcode: 256"
Check the contents of the .md5 file, it's probably a 404 error html thingy.
Don't download the md5 file by right-clicking on it in the mail and select save as, because that link is corrupt. Copy the text into a browser window or something and download it that way.
2007-07-19 20:26
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.04 06:23:00 -
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just move the .md5 and .dat file into a dir on yer desktop called eveinst, when the installer cant find the file on say yer desktop(or where you ran it from) it will then ask you to point the installer to the files it needs, thus point it to yer dir you moved the two files into a bit ago. the .md5 and .dat ones. That will do yah. Have Fun. *Stickey.*
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:55:00 -
[197]
My Mac client is still cooked.... I do not know what has happened.
Lingorm, when all the Linux Login/Install issues get solved, I know it must be pretty hectic where you are at the moment, is it possible to finally get access to the beta test forums - because things get lost in all of us posting in the same 2 threads....
And I would really like to get back into it.
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 17:05:00 -
[198]
There were some problems with sound choppiness when aura was speaking, but it seems that switching to alsa has solved that issue.
For some reason, the game reports that it's running in 60Hz even though the monitor says 85Hz. The fps in station is fairly low, around 30-55 with a geforce 8800 ultra card. Vsync (vblank) is on, but it should still be higher - I blame bad nvidia drivers (others have done some testing on that, showing that the nvidia drivers do indeed suck for the 8 series in linux).
In space, all icons are at the same place (usually at the ship it seems) for some reason. Same thing with the map.
2007-07-19 20:26
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Capn Hack
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.04 17:50:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Jinx Barker
Something has gone horribly wrong with my Mac client....
Few hrs back Bob Niac and I were happily shooting at jove battleships - and then.... this happened:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0710/EVE-Gone_Bad.png
Basically I get a flashing screen, like my video went or something happened... I do not know.
All I know I can login into Server, but I cant really do anything because I have them crazy lines running through my screen.
I removed EVE and reinstalled it again, did not help.
Any of you guys know if I can hard-rset settings somewhere in the files itself/package contents?
sorry i didnt reply here sooner, but theres a chance you can fix this by deleting the eve online preferences folder in ~library/preferences. thats where the client stores all the stuff that would otherwise go in my documents in doze, as well as cider config stuff for the game. beyond that folder and the game app theres nothing that gets modified anywhere else on your computer.
if that doesnt fix things you should try running some other game that uses 3d hardware to check that its not a problem with hardware (overheating, et al).
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farfrael
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Posted - 2007.10.04 17:56:00 -
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ok, progress report so far:
1) client installed fine, no problems (text of the help bubbles is wrong on the type of installation screen by the way)
2) got my password from CCP (thanks)
3) launched game, and got stuck at "acquiring bulk data".
It has now been 5 minutes and the client is still stuck on the "acquiring bulk data" screen.
My "normal" eve installation works fine (tested it 5 seconds before) so the problem seems to be with either the server or the client ...
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.04 18:03:00 -
[201]
Edited by: Scorpyn on 04/10/2007 18:03:09
Originally by: farfrael
ok, progress report so far:
1) client installed fine, no problems (text of the help bubbles is wrong on the type of installation screen by the way)
2) got my password from CCP (thanks)
3) launched game, and got stuck at "acquiring bulk data".
It has now been 5 minutes and the client is still stuck on the "acquiring bulk data" screen.
My "normal" eve installation works fine (tested it 5 seconds before) so the problem seems to be with either the server or the client ...
The "acuiring bulk data" step took a loooooooong time for me. Just wait a bit more. Go and have a coffee or something. And walk the dog. And make dinner. And breakfast. Stuff like that.
2007-07-19 20:26
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.10.04 18:06:00 -
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Well, i've avoided error #256 as mentioned above - just placed dat- and md5-file in ~/Desktop/<any-name>, if placed inside home directory or on Desktop installer finds them and returns error for some reason.
I'm happy, now i'll try to log in :)
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Kempeth
Gallente
Thunderbolts
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Posted - 2007.10.04 18:24:00 -
[203]
I'm only getting the splash screen but nothing happens after that. I'm running Ubuntu and the Install worked without a problem. The Event Log does not show anything about it... Anyone an idea what I could do?
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.10.04 20:04:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Capn Hack
sorry i didnt reply here sooner, but theres a chance you can fix this by deleting the eve online preferences folder in ~library/preferences. thats where the client stores all the stuff that would otherwise go in my documents in doze, as well as cider config stuff for the game. beyond that folder and the game app theres nothing that gets modified anywhere else on your computer.
if that doesnt fix things you should try running some other game that uses 3d hardware to check that its not a problem with hardware (overheating, et al).
It Worked!!!!
Thank you. I will go an try to reproduce the issue. It happened when I was playing with display settings in the client.
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UberL0rd
Minmatar
Brotherhood of Polar Equation
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.10.04 23:04:00 -
[205]
Well, things are looking ...... average! mini maps are now rendering correctly and slider bars are now rendering correctly (was broken in wine). I think I'm seeing a few extra special graphical effects too, but as I'm not flying the same ships or even at similar stations it's hard to say.
However, fps is not better or worse than under wine (I was hoping for a boost! but heh). Whilst you can target things, the targeting box is way off. Normally lower right corner, or slap in the middle of the ship.
But my main beef is the installation. It's not slick guys. The tgz layout is like a file sysem - why? It's just an installer!
Once you have it installed, it did not create any icons or menu entries in my GNOME environment (non root single user install).
CEDEGA_PATH=~/.cedega exec ~/.cedega/.ui/runGUI -GAME EveOnline-linux
Will start the game :)
The slickest install I've seen is a shell script that extracts files from itself to a temporary area and then runs the graphical install. I forget which did that, but from memory it was UT from EPIC/loki games.
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Instructist
Caldari
Meat 2 Veg
The Omni Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.05 00:55:00 -
[206]
Originally by: UberL0rd
The slickest install I've seen is a shell script that extracts files from itself to a temporary area and then runs the graphical install. I forget which did that, but from memory it was UT from EPIC/loki games.
loki installer for linux gamers... can be downloaded at linux-gamers.net :)
as of the CEDEGA_PATH=~/.cedega exec ~/.cedega/.ui/runGUI -GAME EveOnline-linux
just use /usr/bin/eve its created when you install the game :)
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Norwood Franskly
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Posted - 2007.10.05 04:56:00 -
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Edited by: Norwood Franskly on 05/10/2007 05:02:26
Installed the Linux version using the rpm, odd bug after installing the rpm I had to manually run a second installation as well, by typing "eve" into the terminal.
Splash screen works agreed to license agreement now just trying to figure out how to change ip address as its given me incompatible version error.
edit got ip set right account didn't work.
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.10.05 06:24:00 -
[208]
Edited by: Kadesh Priestess on 05/10/2007 06:26:30
Originally by: UberL0rd
But my main beef is the installation. It's not slick guys. The tgz layout is like a file sysem - why? It's just an installer!
Once you have it installed, it did not create any icons or menu entries in my GNOME environment (non root single user install).
Agreed... my vision of perfect installation:
Installer asks only 1 question - if i want it to dl game and install it or if i already have data file on my PC.
No root installation (as far as i understood multi-user install is root install), it's stupid - users can't update client at all. And setting write permissions for root space goes against commonly used practice. If i want to install it as root - i'll login as root and install. Everything placed in root has to be processed using package manager. And checkinstall -D isn't solution cuz as far as i understand list of eve files is changed from time to time.
ALL files should be stored in ~/.eve folder, please no forced creation of ~/EVE - i hated it in wine, and game couldn't be launched if folder was deleted.
Engine and installer should come as package (the most convenient way; for me, at least) and be updated from repo. Repo for engine and installer, updates from TQ for game itself. Maybe separate installer for singularity with eve_test engine package and that will install SiSi1 game into ~/.eve_test...
And released installer should either follow standard gtk/qt themes or utilize cool graphics that matches login window (last released theme, currently black from rev2)
Also package name and version of installer are weird, something like 'eve' and '0.0.0.35' would be highly appreciated in the release :P
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Jinmey
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Posted - 2007.10.05 08:21:00 -
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OK, i got my password i have been able to login, create some characters, but when i select a character and try to login the client close and im back to the desktop .
I stuck on "entering game as XYZ..." for some seconds then im back to desktop.
on console i can see errors like :
"IOError: [Errno 10] No child processes"
someone already know a solution to this problem ?
thx in advance .
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Instructist
Caldari
Meat 2 Veg
The Omni Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.05 08:25:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Jinmey
OK, i got my password i have been able to login, create some characters, but when i select a character and try to login the client close and im back to the desktop .
I stuck on "entering game as XYZ..." for some seconds then im back to desktop.
on console i can see errors like :
"IOError: [Errno 10] No child processes"
someone already know a solution to this problem ?
thx in advance .
have you changed any settings in the cedega gui ?
i had some issues when choosing some basic tweaks. if the problem persists, try launching eve in a window (use the cedega gui for it)
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.10.05 09:28:00 -
[211]
Anyone with the GM tools... Please transport me to Polaris solar system
I transported myself way the hell out there on the edge of the universe, and every time I emergency warp, my client locks itself... I am not having too much luck here. So I am unable to transport myself....
Again, any of you guys are bored... would read this post before loging into server, just transport me back to Polaris please. Would really appreciate it.
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UberL0rd
Minmatar
Brotherhood of Polar Equation
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.10.05 10:21:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Instructist
as of the CEDEGA_PATH=~/.cedega exec ~/.cedega/.ui/runGUI -GAME EveOnline-linux
just use /usr/bin/eve its created when you install the game :)
Not on a single user non root instance - no permissions to write anywhere except for ~ and /tmp
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Dronte
Minmatar
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.05 10:24:00 -
[213]
Originally by: UberL0rd
Originally by: Instructist
<snip>
Not on a single user non root instance - no permissions to write anywhere except for ~ and /tmp
The /usr/bin/eve script works fine for me in a singleuser install, from .deb package. The deb package obviously needs to be installed as root, but rest is installed by my unprivileged user.
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Solbright altaltaltalt
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Posted - 2007.10.05 10:50:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Valeo Galaem
I get splash and crash on the Linux client. Trying to get some logs to send in a bug report.
I've been running EVE via Wine for 6 months so I doubt its my system configuration.
Same for me - Splash and crash. I also have an out of date install of Cedega with an old install of Eve that was working as a reference for me but now stalls at the splash. I'm guessing there is a conflict with the three different installs.
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Solbright altaltaltalt
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Posted - 2007.10.05 10:52:00 -
[215]
The pure Wine install is still working without a hitch.
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Encad Briht
Minmatar
Space-Bar
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.10.05 13:46:00 -
[216]
Ok, played a bit with the Mac Client, atm using the normal client with CrossOver,
The sounds working, which is fine, graphics as far as i could check are ok as well,
except some faulty textures, like Warptunnel, Amarr Stations.
The UI and the cursor need some fixing when in Window mode, it seems to switch back and forth between system and EVE cursor and changes the position a bit (like 9-10 pixels in upperleft diagonal direction).
Some UI Elements (as station symbols, like when your in a belt) are not showing the right position, they show up on abot 110¦ part rotation always at the same place and then vanish at all.
In Station everything seems proper, nothing major occured there.
Scrolling is a bit of a problem as it seems Cider has a problem with the two finger scrolling of the trackpad.
Seems like a good start, but i need some serious introduction in those GM Commands
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.05 20:05:00 -
[217]
Edited by: Scorpyn on 05/10/2007 20:11:06
Some weird stuff :
When the client is starting and when switching to the login screen, it's also switching to 1024x768. No big deal - it's switching back to 1280x1024 when it's entering the game. However, there are some weirdness connected to it :
* The client does not realize that it's running at 85Hz. For some reason it thinks it's running at 60Hz. For most of the games, this is fixed by switching directly from the resolution used by the desktop to the same resolution ingame, but that is not possible since EVE is switching to 1024x768 inbetween.
* I disabled all modes except 24 bit, 1280x1024 in xorg.conf and restarted the computer. This *should* have made it impossible for the client to switch to 1024x768 during the login screen, but unfortunately it does not seem to care about what's possible so it's switching to 1024x768 (85Hz) anyway. I checked the xorg.conf file to make sure that it didn't edit it, and it appeared to be unchanged.
* After removing all modes except 1280x1024@24, the client dies when trying to log in (after clicking connect). Well, it dies once - starting eve again and repeating the procedure works for some reason.
I looked in the config stuff (for eve) to see if there was a way to fix this, but I couldn't find anything obvious.
2007-07-19 20:26
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.10.05 20:27:00 -
[218]
Edited by: Kadesh Priestess on 05/10/2007 20:27:04
I had lots of problems with input =/ it seems that wrapper thinks that ctrl and alt keys are pressed (so when i press just 'e' ingame it disables all effects).
Huge pain with login too (i have to copy login/pass and then paste them with mouse) because of this problem.
Everything else is fine so far.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.10.05 20:51:00 -
[219]
An Update for Mac Users:
1) DO NOT CHANGE FULL SCREEN/WINDOW MODE OPTIONS from within the game UI 'Esc' Menu.
2) Use Command+Enter key to Change the mode.
3) Then Use the Resolution Changing options in the 'ESC' menu.
4) DO NOT touch the Window/Full Screen Option. Leave it as it is, that can cause a client to go crazy.
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Merende Macaco
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Posted - 2007.10.05 22:39:00 -
[220]
Edited by: Merende Macaco on 05/10/2007 22:41:11
I'm having a bit of trouble getting past the install, Slackware apparently lacks the required python-GTK tools, so the install script cacks on the sanity check.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/eveonline/cedega_installer.py", line 15, in <module>
import pygtk
ImportError: No module named pygtk
The tgz package installed without a hitch though. I'm still trying to track down a third-party version of the required package.
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Andrew Highwind
Caldari
Highwind Galactic State
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Posted - 2007.10.06 04:30:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Jinx Barker
An Update for Mac Users:
I found this out the hard way. Trashing my prefs was the only way I could fix it.
Anyhow, have any Mac users noticed a color shift in their display when Eve is launched and running? I can't really describe it too well, because I'm almost colorblind, but there's definitely a shift while playing Eve. It goes back to normal after the app has been quit. I noticed it today during login and on the select a character screen, and I wanted to know if it's just an "isolated to me" kind of thing. I haven't created a color profile, and I'm just using the default one with my Alu iMac.
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Sakoth
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Posted - 2007.10.06 07:46:00 -
[222]
Any one have this problem?
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Larger size (1280x1024)
I get the same result in both OpenSuse 10.3 & Ubuntu 7.10.
Both Wine and Cedega works fine but not the CCP version.
I've tried all kinds of different settings and resolutions.
Copied the Arial fonts. Enable/Disable vertex/pixel shaders.
P4 2.8Ghz
Geforce ti 4200 (legacy drivers)
1GB RAM
OpenSuse 10.3 & Ubuntu 7.10
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Raquel Smith
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.06 09:40:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Andrew Highwind
Originally by: Jinx Barker
An Update for Mac Users:
I found this out the hard way. Trashing my prefs was the only way I could fix it.
Anyhow, have any Mac users noticed a color shift in their display when Eve is launched and running? I can't really describe it too well, because I'm almost colorblind, but there's definitely a shift while playing Eve. It goes back to normal after the app has been quit. I noticed it today during login and on the select a character screen, and I wanted to know if it's just an "isolated to me" kind of thing. I haven't created a color profile, and I'm just using the default one with my Alu iMac.
Yes I've noticed this too.
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Spartanas
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Posted - 2007.10.06 12:26:00 -
[224]
Edited by: Spartanas on 06/10/2007 12:26:27
When trying to login, I get "Status Unknown", the DT for the Mac/Linux test server is long past. Anyone know what's going on?
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.06 14:47:00 -
[225]
Also, i cant get out of polaris. nore can i get any skills with the get skills button for items and ships, it will just say upgrading a certan skill to say lvl 5..and it stops..untill i hit esc like 20 mins later. is this just horrid lag? or should the test server be a bit better of a machine?
i can understand limited server space and what have you, but come on.
Dmm, Out.
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Instructist
Caldari
Meat 2 Veg
The Omni Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.06 15:35:00 -
[226]
Originally by: DahMainMan
Also, i cant get out of polaris. nore can i get any skills with the get skills button for items and ships, it will just say upgrading a certan skill to say lvl 5..and it stops..untill i hit esc like 20 mins later. is this just horrid lag? or should the test server be a bit better of a machine?
i can understand limited server space and what have you, but come on.
Dmm, Out.
Alot have not been given the correct GM privs, you would need to email shay for that.
Ask someone that writes in blue text to help you get out of polaris, and to give you a ship/fittings/skills, just ask in the corp chat, i am sure you will get help :)
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Instructist
Caldari
Meat 2 Veg
The Omni Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.06 15:39:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Andrew Highwind
Originally by: Jinx Barker
An Update for Mac Users:
I found this out the hard way. Trashing my prefs was the only way I could fix it.
.......... etc...
Also an update for linux users... found out the hard way my self, splash and crash. trashing the settings helped.
However server is down so i cant seam to see if the updates have fixed anything :(
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Capn Hack
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.06 18:39:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Andrew Highwind
Anyhow, have any Mac users noticed a color shift in their display when Eve is launched and running? I can't really describe it too well, because I'm almost colorblind, but there's definitely a shift while playing Eve. It goes back to normal after the app has been quit. I noticed it today during login and on the select a character screen, and I wanted to know if it's just an "isolated to me" kind of thing. I haven't created a color profile, and I'm just using the default one with my Alu iMac.
no colour shift for me (monitor set to srgb profile and calibrated), but there is a gamma shift. most games will do that when you launch them since they have their own gamma setting which will brighten/darken the entire screen. that could be what youre experiencing, but if theres a definite shift in hue rather than just brightness then you may have found a bug.
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.06 22:59:00 -
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anyone find it odd, how wine runs eve so flawless at 1600x1200at85hz with all the goodies turned on, yet. this cedega wrapper has some major problems..bolth gfx and installer. seems to me ccp best watch out, cause transgaming will try and lock there installer to eve forever. Beware. cedega is nice, but its now an old uneeded thing of the past for linux gamers. keep that in mind ccp.
and on a biger note, wtfh is it that is killin my fps in this test, yet wine runs 80+ fps. in cedega 35.
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Valeo Galaem
New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit
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Posted - 2007.10.07 08:25:00 -
[230]
Edited by: Valeo Galaem on 07/10/2007 08:26:50
Originally by: DahMainMan
anyone find it odd, how wine runs eve so flawless at 1600x1200at85hz with all the goodies turned on, yet. this cedega wrapper has some major problems..bolth gfx and installer. seems to me ccp best watch out, cause transgaming will try and lock there installer to eve forever. Beware. cedega is nice, but its now an old uneeded thing of the past for linux gamers. keep that in mind ccp.
and on a biger note, wtfh is it that is killin my fps in this test, yet wine runs 80+ fps. in cedega 35.
I'm halfway tempted to learn scripting and just write an installer for EVE on Linux via Wine myself.
I'm in the beta test of course, but am completely unable to test anything at the moment because EVE just does a splash and crash and makes no dump nor can I figure out how to get the LogServer to run to record what is happening. I have actually run the special "for Cedega" build of EVE in Wine with no problems, so the issue lies with Transgaming.
I know everyone has their preferences, but at the moment mine lay with Wine being the superior software.
On a side note, the current build on Sisi (38060) splash and crashes in Wine so possibly this might be somehow related... At least that I can bug report.
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Anders1
Caldari
Coalition of Nations
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:48:00 -
[231]
So wait, uh, is the Linux client just EVE packaged together with Cedega? Not ported using winelib like Google Earth, or Kylix?
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Moff Tigriss
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Posted - 2007.10.07 12:45:00 -
[232]
The server is still offline :(
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rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.10.07 12:47:00 -
[233]
Yes, wtf ?
Also, how about throwing in some more hardware. If you want your community to betatest a product you might as well put some money and effort in it. Staring at 'Loading bulk data' for 15 minutes is not really motivating you know.
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rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.10.07 12:50:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Anders1
So wait, uh, is the Linux client just EVE packaged together with Cedega? Not ported using winelib like Google Earth, or Kylix?
Yes, looks like it. It's EVE in regular Cedega basicly, but they now created an installer to go along with it. I am kind of hoping they did some EVE specific optimizations to boost FPS, but I saw other people who experienced an FPS drop
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:23:00 -
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FUBAR!
This whole project is fubar, this is classic transgaming work, thay build stuff half assed, so thay can drag it out for half a year, all the while ccp has to hand em $$$ for a project that we DONT need. DO YOU WANT THEM STUCK TO EVE FOREVER?!?!? SO THAY CAN MAKE IT SUCK!??!
look at the proof for ffs.
my wine install can run it all, plus many other games, you ccp guys need to heed our linux users warning, we know our stuff. been usin cedega for years..and for years i have hated it, onley reason i used it..well did use it, cause it did work..kinda. now wine has blown it out of the water.
case in point, thay moved almost all there linux focus to just cider, there lile mac wrapper, why?? cause wine was about to own there sorry asses..again. onley thing TG has in cedega is a buncha copy protect code that just Bloats it, its wine code is waay old vs what wine itself is running, yah see? wine plays catch up with windows, transgamin plays catchup with wine, so on.
DUMP THE CRAPPY CEDEGA!!!!!
now ccp do this, make more than one installer, ie have yer transgamin pack. but also have say a exe made for linux in general(to be ran by wine). ima see if i can get this wine to run the installer package for the test, if i can.. ima dump yer client like a bad habit, untill it gets WAY better. cause this is bull s*it, u will help a rip off company like TS, as thay feck the wine project for code. pfft.
you best learn a bit more about linux(comunity), b4 u get a company that had been fuxin the linux comunity for a few years now, to help you fux us over, thanks. looks like Ts is trying to get us by the balls, from the looks of this crappy outcome.
HEADS UP CCP! thay will latch onto you like a leech.
i dont like yer waays of doin this ccp. it will blow up in yer face.
P.S. ./Wine eve-install-4839483*.exe owns j00 :P
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Capn Hack
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:44:00 -
[236]
its obvious that a lot of linux users are unhappy with transgaming, but.. whats to stop you just using the vanilla pc version of the client in wine? if that works better, do it. nobody is forcing you to use the cedega version..
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Moff Tigriss
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Posted - 2007.10.07 14:48:00 -
[237]
And during this time, the server is always offline...
But, if the "EVE on linux" is a simple repackage of Cedega with EVE, without more optimizations or specific code, well...
"OMGFG, my 8800 make 15 fps in 800x600, docked in station, w00t !"
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:06:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Capn Hack
its obvious that a lot of linux users are unhappy with transgaming, but.. whats to stop you just using the vanilla pc version of the client in wine? if that works better, do it. nobody is forcing you to use the cedega version..
Yer a smart one, how can i connect to the TEST server with a normal windows version?? i cant, ie i would have to hack up the BETA installer to get the version for the linux beta. To Connect To The
linux beta test.
So yes, im bein forced. (with the beta)
Thank you, Try again.
pfft. try to hold back stupid stuff like that dude, "daah if u dont like it, dont use it..daaah".
but! moreover, fix the server!! :)
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Capn Hack
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.07 15:47:00 -
[239]
Originally by: DahMainMan
Yer a smart one, how can i connect to the TEST server with a normal windows version?? i cant, ie i would have to hack up the BETA installer to get the version for the linux beta. To Connect To The
linux beta test.
So yes, im bein forced. (with the beta)
Thank you, Try again.
pfft. try to hold back stupid stuff like that dude, "daah if u dont like it, dont use it..daaah".
but! moreover, fix the server!! :)
why would you want to connect to the test server if you have a fully working client in wine? the test server is only there for the mac and linux betas, but nobody needs to take part in or use those betas, or the associated server, if they have a working version going already. its for testing the client; the server isnt whats being tested so connecting to it with any unofficial/custom port would mean people start reporting bugs that arent there in the official beta, and that would damage the testing process.
the only things the official ports have over the others is that patching may be easier, and those tiny little bugs that appear will be dealt with. if thats not enough reason to use the official port then you have no need to connect to the beta server. unless, that is, youre only in there to play with the gm tools and see what its like to fly a titan, and arent testing the client at all..
its not nice to call peoples posts stupid unless you at least understand what youre talking about, and it reflects badly on you.
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.07 18:19:00 -
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so, u think my reason is to fly a titan? my good sir, i have yet to fly anything other than an ibs. and am stuck in one system, these gm tools u talk of. will be useless to me rather as i wanna test for gfx erros odd bugs and what have you. and ALSO compare them with wine/windows and what not.
but, u do it yer way ill do it mine, seems u like to tell me to love it or leave it.
at this pont im just trying to get the wrapper to just play the normal client, so i can atleast get to testing. however its not goin well. I take it, it wont hurt anythign as long as I stick to the same wrapper as the beta. it will just allow me to test on tran for a bit..so i can test..SOME THING.
Dmm, Out.
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Valeo Galaem
New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit
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Posted - 2007.10.07 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Valeo Galaem on 07/10/2007 18:47:36
If you are using Transgaming's Linux client, EVE is installed in "~/.cedega/EVE Online/c_drive/Program Files/CCP/EVE".
There are 2 major problems with EVE on Wine at the moment. I don't know if these are fixed in the TG version but from what I've heard there are way more than just three (I can't run the thing myself to test it without it crashing).
To be clear, the following are Wine issues, not TG's which would be a much longer list right now.
1) PNG images (i.e. from the mini-map browser and in mission briefs) are corrupted and instead show random icon tiles or noise or both. This is at least due to certain combinations of software (NVIDIA drivers?). A probably related problem is that sometimes ship icons are rendered with the ship's base textures transparent, but this is more of a cosmetic issue - the ship models in space are rendered properly.
2) Changing resolutions can be a problem, as some display setups can give improper resolution options to EVE. For instance, I'm running a dual monitor setup using NVIDIA's TwinView, but EVE only sees one resolution option that spans both monitors. Needless to say, it becomes very unresponsive in this mode (and is even worse that this is the default). This can be worked around most of the time by running EVE in a virtual desktop the first time (which supplies standard resolutions to the game) by running "wine explorer /desktop="" eve.exe". Then you switch EVE to full-screen mode, set the resolution you want, set it back to Windowed mode, exit, and the resolution change will stick.
3) I'll toss in a third minor issue, and that is installation. You have to get Wine, MSTTCoreFonts, EVE installed, and at least the Arial font accessible via the "./windows/fonts/" folder (I used sym-links, but that's read-only). An installer script could be made to simplify the process. Or, prepackage the client using winelib.
I can understand CCP wanting to go with Transgaming for reasons of support. A company "dedicated" to maintaining compatibility is better for your customers than relying on the volunteer work of another community. Though, I think Wine could work if CCP opened communications more, and both projects would benefit.
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Your Wallet has been emptied!
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.10.07 19:55:00 -
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There's 3rd way - CCP can have dedicated developer/dev team to support eve in wine (by making own packages or submitting any needed patches to jit).
But i ask to stop whining about wine vs cedega, there're another threads on this subject, and this one is about TG's products.
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.08 04:02:00 -
[243]
Ty!
I agree. onto the testin of the beta.
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Moff Tigriss
Gallente
IMpAct Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.08 11:28:00 -
[244]
CCP, please fix the server issue. You have a motivated and dynamic community, but if that lasts for such a long time, that will not go.
Although he have some flammers there, the effort to adapt itself to Linux is very appreciated. But, please, correct the test server.
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Capn Hack
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.08 17:58:00 -
[245]
Originally by: DahMainMan
at this pont im just trying to get the wrapper to just play the normal client, so i can atleast get to testing. however its not goin well. I take it, it wont hurt anythign as long as I stick to the same wrapper as the beta. it will just allow me to test on tran for a bit..so i can test..SOME THING.
problem is that you cant just start switching out parts of the client because it would damage the test. the full client and test client are different builds, so any bugs you find after splicing together the full client and test wrapper may not exist with the proper test client. doing things like altering bits of the client on your own can lead to a lot of wasted time for the dev team as they try to pin down or reproduce a bug that doesnt (or shouldnt) exist. due to that you wouldnt be able to test anything anyway.
whatever problems anyone has with transgaming, its not the only choice youll have. itll still work in wine, crossover, parallels, and (i think) fusion so your choices arent being limited by ccp going with tg. thats my last word on it anyway.
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Instructist
Caldari
Meat 2 Veg
The Omni Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:33:00 -
[246]
Test server is up again.
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RuriHoshino
Minmatar
The Mission Guys
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Posted - 2007.10.08 18:34:00 -
[247]
Dunno if anyone's tried this on a Mac with the integrated GMA950 card, but it's completely useless. I have a MacBook and a Mac Mini, and while they don't run it spectacularly under Windows it's perfectly acceptable.
On both these machines my framerate in station with the Mac client hovers around 5-10. When I undock the screen fills with garbage and I only see flashes of background and objects, and I come close to measuring performance in Seconds Per Frame.
Contrast this with the Crossover install which ran nearly as well as the Windows client sans sound. I gotta say, this has been a big letdown.
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Kadesh Priestess on 08/10/2007 19:26:06
Lol, sorry, i have few 'rocks' to throw too.
In Russia, we often use layout switchers that automatically convert 'qwerty' to 'йцукен', 'ghbdtn' to 'привет', etc (just replaces one letter with another one (yeah, two letters on one button, rus and eng) from another layout). Not so long ago i've described problems with text input... dunno it they were caused by cedega or xneur (the one we use on linux, for windows there's punto switcher), maybe it's xneur, but fact that xneur+wine installation runs pretty well disappoints me 'a bit'...
Bug filed, at least now i know source of a problem and can take part in testing too with xneur killed :P
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Solbright altaltaltalt
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Posted - 2007.10.08 19:51:00 -
[249]
Internationalisation is a well known long standing advantage that Wine holds over Cedega. Clipboard cut'n'paste also doesn't work in Cedega while working nicely in Wine.
I presume these issues have carried over to the new packages. I don't think I'll be dropping Wine anytime soon.
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.10.08 20:02:00 -
[250]
With xneur active i had to copy my password before game launch and paste it into password field after... so at least partially it (copy/paste) works
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.09 02:22:00 -
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ok, wine works well, yes I/We know. im sorry for steering the topic off path, this is about THIS beta only. this is our job fellas. we must report all errors..we unlike the rest of cedega users, have a direct(mostley) to the MAKERS of cedega, so our erros we post must be fixed if TG wants there $$$, WE HAVE THEM BY THE BALLS FOR ONCE! so get to it! :)
Our Will Be Done.
Here is my first bug, when you click on the local and corp x button, it WILL close down the window..only way to get her back is to restart the client.
so, there is my 1st bug. :)
Dmm, out.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.09 03:26:00 -
[252]
First report after installation and testing on two separate machines.
Ubuntu 7.04 + nvidia .100.19 drivers on both test machines
1. x2 3800 amd nvidia 7950GT 512meg ram oc, 2 gig ram sata drive
Installation fine with caveats posted already regarding directories.
Client starts in 10x7 fullscreen. Login successful. changing resolution via escape key works. closing client does NOT screw up X, as it has in the past.
Frame rate is no different to normal cedega installation on this machine.
(40-50fps in station, 35-55fps in space.)
Character creation screen(s)- no issues.
GFX corruption on starting area asteroids. Some stations are also corrupted. This is NOT an issue with normal tranq client+cedega or wine.
2.
Second machine:
xp2400 amd fx5200 geforce 1 gig ram (system.)
Installation works same as #1.
Client hangs at splash screen.
No further testing can be done on this box as it crashes with a python error (when launching from command line.)
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.09 04:43:00 -
[253]
on yer second system, try to turn off vertex and pixel shaders, or atleast set them to a lower version, try to turn it off first. that may help. also check for fonts.
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UberL0rd
Minmatar
Brotherhood of Polar Equation
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.10.09 09:16:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Sevarus James
Client hangs at splash screen.
No further testing can be done on this box as it crashes with a python error (when launching from command line.)
What is the error?
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Spartanas
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Posted - 2007.10.09 14:27:00 -
[255]
Server is down again for me, via Mac client...anyone else having the same problem?
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.09 17:37:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Spartanas
Server is down again for me, via Mac client...anyone else having the same problem?
Works now...
It's probably going up and down a bit simply because it's a test server.
2007-07-19 20:26
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Moff Tigriss
Gallente
IMpAct Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.09 19:29:00 -
[257]
I have a problem. All is ok, but :
Login : ok
Character selection : ok
"Loading Data" : ok
*"splash music" is remplaced by "classic space music"*
"Entering space" : back to desktop
Anyone have an idea ?
No tweaks, charac creation ok...
Ubuntu 7.04, Radeon 9800pro with well installed drivers
Thx
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Solbright altaltaltalt
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Posted - 2007.10.09 21:25:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Moff Tigriss
Anyone have an idea ?
Try deleting the cache and settings folders c_drive/Local Settings/...
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.10.09 21:29:00 -
[259]
Edited by: Kadesh Priestess on 09/10/2007 21:29:51
What should i do to get ships? I have GM priveleges, but don't have enough cargo to get ship into cargohold, and 'spawn' menu item returns an error... any way to forward it directly into station docks?
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.10 01:46:00 -
[260]
few more bugs, this is about all i can test, as i still dont have admin privs, i have sent a few emails..asked in here many a times.
anyhow, here is what i have seen so far.
no target select icon.
icons of systems/belts and so on, that normal move about the sides of yer screen just stick to the lower left and/or right of the screen.
when in windowd mode, there is no titlebar to click on to drag the window about yer desktop.
bad bad bad fps.
So, welp there is that. so far.
see if u can fix my admin rites. as its a pain bein stuck in this place, i wanna goto empire. so i can test torp exp render, and other things that may still be messing up.
Than You,
Dmm Out.
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Kempeth
Gallente
Thunderbolts
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Posted - 2007.10.10 05:54:00 -
[261]
I got a friend to try the Cedega Test Build as well. Just like me his installation does "splash and crash"(tm). It might have some connection to the os as we are both running Ubuntu feisty. Also the normal client has the same symptoms under cedega.
I would love to help further but I can't seem to find any errors or log files.
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.10 08:07:00 -
[262]
For all u splash n crashers, please post yer system specs, and video driver version.
also u need arial.ttf in yer fonts dir.
Thank you.
OH! also, this crash can be derived from audio issues, see if u can try and set it for oss or alsa, perhaps bolth, fiddle with the mix of them. post yer results.
Dmm Out.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.10 10:01:00 -
[263]
I have been organising getting transgaming onto these forums so that they can take your feedback directly and directly respond.
So very soon (tm) you will be seeing some Dev's in the C C P corp with names like TG xxxx. These are the Transgaming developers.
I will let them introduce themselves to you when they log in.
We have also hired a couple of new developers up here that have Linux experience and expect them to chime in with suggestions as well. They are CCP Sputnik (who works for me in the QA Engineering team) and CCP EinarTh (who works for CCP Explorer in the EVE software group).
We will soon be moving this trial to a larger server and opening it up to more people.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Aeon Jonas
Caldari
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2007.10.10 11:05:00 -
[264]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
We will soon be moving this trial to a larger server and opening it up to more people.
EPIC WIN!
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Solbright altaltaltalt
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Posted - 2007.10.10 11:29:00 -
[265]
Edited by: Solbright altaltaltalt on 10/10/2007 11:30:15
Originally by: DahMainMan
For all u splash n crashers, please post yer system specs, and video driver version.
Card: GeForce 7600, AGP, 256 MB
Driver: 2.1.0 NVIDIA 97.55
Xorg: 7.1.1
Linux: 2.6.15-27-desktop, Ubuntu 6.06 (dapper), SimplyMEPIS 6.5
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Soy Black
Gallente
TalCorp Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.10 14:17:00 -
[266]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
We will soon be moving this trial to a larger server and opening it up to more people.
Great news!!! :) Looking forward to it!
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.10 15:00:00 -
[267]
Sol, try to install an app called ENVY , it will instal the best linux drivers that are out, that alone could help. As i have 7.04 installed with a fresh copy, and it works fine.
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Solbright altaltaltalt
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Posted - 2007.10.11 14:52:00 -
[268]
I'd like to see some more specs from others not reaching the login before I going risking this stable setup on mismatching kernel modules again.
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Trek
Minmatar
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.11 17:41:00 -
[269]
Originally by: Solbright altaltaltalt
I'd like to see some more specs from others not reaching the login before I going risking this stable setup on mismatching kernel modules again.
Another one:
Kernel 2.6.22.6
Nvidia driver 100.14.19 (on GForce 6600GT AGP)
I have tried changing a lot of stuff in the configuration but no change.
I get this message in .xsession-errors when trying to run Eve (if it helps anyone)
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
Major opcode: 20
Minor opcode: 0
Resource id: 0x3800004
Well that's pretty much it. Eve works just fine in Wine on the same system.
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Joey1
Caldari
Black Screen of Death
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.10.11 20:18:00 -
[270]
Could someone upload the .md5 file or just copy and paste its content onto the forums it seems to be down...
I have tried to use md5sum to make my own but it claims that it is incorrect...
Thanks
Joey1
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Valeo Galaem
New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit
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Posted - 2007.10.11 21:47:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Joey1
Could someone upload the .md5 file or just copy and paste its content onto the forums it seems to be down...
bdda6e33eee5da631afa04afaabf0a29 EveOnline-linux-000769.dat
Also having the splash and crash with Cedega, while it runs fine in Wine...
uname: Linux Nu11u5 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Wed Oct 10 06:00:47 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
client glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6600/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
OpenGL version string: 2.1.1 NVIDIA 100.14.19
Running Ubuntu Gusty beta with latest security and update packages. The NVIDIA driver was an Ubuntu supported package as well.
No settings were modified from the stock install of the client.
Thar be Pirates
You are not authorised to hack into CONCORD's mainframe
Your Wallet has been emptied!
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Moff Tigriss
Gallente
IMpAct Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.12 09:29:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Solbright altaltaltalt
Originally by: Moff Tigriss
Anyone have an idea ?
Try deleting the cache and settings folders c_drive/Local Settings/...
Nothing...
I tried to reinstall Eve, same crash.
Without the sound, or with OSS, same error.
System is cleared of any tweaks on xorg.conf, or modules/kernel.
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Raquel Smith
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.12 15:01:00 -
[273]
MacBook Pro feedback:
Function (F10 listed in shortcuts) keys don't work even when holding the fn key. fn+command+f10 works
Can't zoom out in space (2 fingers on touchpad and scroll)
Can't type # key (alt+3)
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Parkins
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Posted - 2007.10.12 18:34:00 -
[274]
unfortunatly im not in the beta testing, but does any1 have any experience with the new macbookpro with the gforce 8600m gt cards? how is the fps?
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Joey1
Caldari
Black Screen of Death
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.10.12 19:25:00 -
[275]
anyone else get an error claiming the game package is corrupt?
i am sure it cant be as i ran md5sum on it and showed same result as what the .md5 file had in it...
Any ideas?
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Adel Sorra
Gallente
Steel Beasts
Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.12 21:59:00 -
[276]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
We will soon be moving this trial to a larger server and opening it up to more people.
Count me in :)
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Raquel Smith
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.12 23:16:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Parkins
unfortunatly im not in the beta testing, but does any1 have any experience with the new macbookpro with the gforce 8600m gt cards? how is the fps?
Smooth in space and map. It's 100 fps in windows through boot camp, I imagine similar performance in OS X.
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Ixchel Polyxena
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Posted - 2007.10.13 11:36:00 -
[278]
Originally by: Raquel Smith
Originally by: Parkins
unfortunatly im not in the beta testing, but does any1 have any experience with the new macbookpro with the gforce 8600m gt cards? how is the fps?
Smooth in space and map. It's 100 fps in windows through boot camp, I imagine similar performance in OS X.
thx for your reply. im running eve in bootcamp, and yes smootly, but fps is very unstable, running up and down from 60 to 120. not very stabile... do you have any comments on that? how can i make it run more stabile? any new drivers maybe?
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Jinmey
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Posted - 2007.10.14 17:30:00 -
[279]
i have done a fresh install on my debian box but i have always the same problem :
-launch the game
-login
-" entering game as XYZ"
-CRASH
nothing usefull also running the launching the game from console, no errors, just crash .
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Moff Tigriss
Gallente
IMpAct Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.15 12:06:00 -
[280]
Oky, i have a solution. Make another charac, and select "In station" before click on "Create Charactere". That's work for me.
But... I need help for using tools :D
Well :
1024*768, fullscreen, all graphical options disabled, 15-20 fps undocked, 35-40 docked.
Pentium IV 3 Ghz, Radeon 9800xt, 1,5 Go of ram. AMD, please release our new linux driver
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.15 15:08:00 -
[281]
We are shifting things to a new server as the other one was required for some other testing.
Accounts have had most testing roles removed and will be completely closed out in the next couple of days. You will then be able to use you rnormal accounts on the new server as it will have a mirror of TQ (no more than a couple of months old).
Should have sent this out sooner, but I have been sick and not a work, so my apologies for the delay in this information.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Aeon Jonas
Caldari
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2007.10.15 15:14:00 -
[282]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
We are shifting things to a new server as the other one was required for some other testing.
Accounts have had most testing roles removed and will be completely closed out in the next couple of days. You will then be able to use you rnormal accounts on the new server as it will have a mirror of TQ (no more than a couple of months old).
Should have sent this out sooner, but I have been sick and not a work, so my apologies for the delay in this information.
Does this mean that everyone will be able to use this new server and get a mac client to test with as there are no special testing roles needed? And that it is a mirror of TQ so everyone can just download the beta client. Please say this is so. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee.
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.15 17:16:00 -
[283]
Edited by: Scorpyn on 15/10/2007 17:16:33
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
We are shifting things to a new server as the other one was required for some other testing.
Accounts have had most testing roles removed and will be completely closed out in the next couple of days. You will then be able to use you rnormal accounts on the new server as it will have a mirror of TQ (no more than a couple of months old).
Should have sent this out sooner, but I have been sick and not a work, so my apologies for the delay in this information.
Disregard the mail I sent in that case
Will the new server be the faster one that you mentioned previously?
2007-07-19 20:26
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oxman
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Posted - 2007.10.15 20:40:00 -
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F1 2007-10-15 22:38:10,598 INFO In mozcontrol_requires_updating... exit status of 0
F1 2007-10-15 22:38:10,898 INFO Read this line: GUI!000035,http://beta:[email protected]/winex-beta/updater/eveonline-000035-1-GUI-update.tgz
F1 2007-10-15 22:38:10,899 INFO Read this line: UPDATER!000035,http://beta:[email protected]/winex-beta/updater/eveonline-000035-1-update.tgz
F1 2007-10-15 22:38:10,899 INFO Read this line: ENGINE!eveonline-000038,http://beta:[email protected]/winex-beta/updater/cedega-engine-eveonline-000038.i386.cpkg
F1 2007-10-15 22:38:10,899 INFO Latest version of the engine is eveonline-000038
F1 2007-10-15 22:38:10,899 INFO We've got eveonline-000038...
F1 2007-10-15 22:38:10,899 INFO Cedega does not require updating
F1 2007-10-15 22:38:11,200 INFO Read this line: GUI!000035,http://beta:[email protected]/winex-beta/updater/eveonline-000035-1-GUI-update.tgz
F1 2007-10-15 22:38:11,200 INFO Latest build number of the Cedega GUI is 000035
F1 2007-10-15 22:38:11,200 INFO Current GUI build number is 000035
F1 2007-10-15 22:38:11,200 INFO Current GUI build number is 000035
F1 2007-10-15 22:38:11,533 INFO In Updater::need_update. Needs updating list is:
F1 2007-10-15 22:38:11,533 INFO [False, False, False, False, False]
F1 2007-10-15 22:38:11,533 INFO Perform the update.
F1 2007-10-15 22:38:11,533 INFO In cleanup_tempdir
Running... /home/oxman/.cedega/.ui/runGUI
/home/oxman/.cedega/.ui/gddb.py:24: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012.
import gddb_parser
/home/oxman/.themes/Glory-Simplex/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:540: Incapable de localiser le fichier image dans le chemin des pixmaps : ½ Menu-Menubar/menuline.png +
/home/oxman/.themes/Glory-Simplex/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:543: Background image options specified without filename
[oxman@sai ~]$ sh: lsb_release: command not found
sh: lsb_release: command not found
Freeze with black window after the first window with a picture.
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oxman
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Posted - 2007.10.15 21:43:00 -
[285]
Its on Archlinux 32 bits
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Dronte
Minmatar
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.16 08:51:00 -
[286]
Originally by: oxman
<snip>
[oxman@sai ~]$ sh: lsb_release: command not found
sh: lsb_release: command not found
Freeze with black window after the first window with a picture.
Try and make sure that you dont have any programs using the audio device running (XMMS, Xine, Firefox/Opera/Konqueror). You could also try and disable audio in your prefs.ini file. The lsb_release file isnt a showstopper (i had mine running even though i had the same error), but i found that the black screen "freeze" came when EVE couldnt get an exclusive lock on the audio device
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Darahk J'olonar
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Posted - 2007.10.17 21:46:00 -
[287]
Well not having the Beta client in front of me but reading about it has confirmed my fears. First and foremost it is nothing more than the current Cedega+EvE client combo, only packaged nicely in one big lump. The fact that neither Wine nor Cedega can handle SM3 on SM3 capable cards means that Trinity II is an exclusive upgrade to Windows users only as will the DX10 upg. be exclusive to Vista users. Now going on that wihtout the Trinity II benefits, those of which that matter most are the ones that make more use of the GPU are lost to linux users.
I really don't see what the big deal is here other than a .deb/.rpm/.tgz file that is a one step install so to speak. If CCP were serious in their efforts to make this game enjoyable for all they would drop the craptacular Direct X and re-write the entire engine using OpenGL so that every OS and platform can take advantage of the new whiz bang graphics and performance increase. The other option is for Transgaming to actually do something original and astounding and one-up Wine by making their product DirectX 9 compat and SM3 compat. Otherwise this is just a whole bunch of nothing.
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solbright altalt
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Posted - 2007.10.18 12:58:00 -
[288]
Originally by: Darahk J'olonar
Otherwise this is just a whole bunch of nothing.
Boring!
The new engine is the same on all platforms. The SM3 stuff is just a bit more glossy looks. You won't be losing out unless you consider the 3D visual effects as important.
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.18 13:42:00 -
[289]
We are already in talks with Transgaming around the SM3 issue and hope to have good news on that front soon(tm).
While it may not be supported initially Transgaming are hoping to to support it asap and are already developing other parts of their engine to support the other functions that are coming with EVE:Trinity like the improved IO stream (asynchronous).
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Kernel Sander
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.10.19 06:10:00 -
[290]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
We are already in talks with Transgaming around the SM3 issue and hope to have good news on that front soon(tm).
While it may not be supported initially Transgaming are hoping to to support it asap and are already developing other parts of their engine to support the other functions that are coming with EVE:Trinity like the improved IO stream (asynchronous).
Hey,
I just wanted to say, to CCP, thank you very, very, very much for this OSX client you're all working on.
EVE has long been the only Windows thing I run, and my PC is starting to get dodgy. I didn't want to stop playing the game, however, and am really glad that CCP is porting this game to OSX. I realize it's alot of work, and I know we all tend to give you guys tons of crap... so just wanted to step back and say thank you for your effort.
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Lord Fallion
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Posted - 2007.10.20 10:54:00 -
[291]
Is it still possible to download the Mac client somewhere. I've just booted Mac OS X on my old pc and would like to test it out.
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Crimsonjade
Stupid People Always Need Killing
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.10.20 20:40:00 -
[292]
one wittle question about the Mac client.
1 will it work on older ie non intel machines?
i love my old g4, but if it wont work on it.. its gonna be a coaster
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ElfeGER
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.10.20 21:22:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Crimsonjade
one wittle question about the Mac client.
1 will it work on older ie non intel machines?
i love my old g4, but if it wont work on it.. its gonna be a coaster
no it needs a x86 cpu as the code is running native, just api functions are reimplemented
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Crimsonjade
Stupid People Always Need Killing
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.10.20 22:54:00 -
[294]
Originally by: El***ER
Originally by: Crimsonjade
one wittle question about the Mac client.
1 will it work on older ie non intel machines?
i love my old g4, but if it wont work on it.. its gonna be a coaster
no it needs a x86 cpu as the code is running native, just api functions are reimplemented
ty sir
god i bought a dell. hell hath frozen over
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DahMainMan
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Posted - 2007.10.23 04:49:00 -
[295]
whats goin down with the beta test? i cant connect to the test server, is there a patch out?
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Shinzann
Beast Cat Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.23 16:54:00 -
[296]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
We will soon be moving this trial to a larger server and opening it up to more people.
When? Sign me up! Please.
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mrhateboy
Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.24 01:51:00 -
[297]
sign me up too
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Polkageist
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Posted - 2007.10.24 05:59:00 -
[298]
sign me up too
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rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.10.24 10:12:00 -
[299]
I find CCP's lack of updates disturbing.
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solbright altalt
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Posted - 2007.10.24 10:34:00 -
[300]
I think Lingorm has been out of action for a bit. So, the testing has gone into limbo for the moment.
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Slime Andrew
Empirius Enigmus Navy
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.24 11:07:00 -
[301]
Any news about open beta? How is work going? Anything? Anyone?
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solbright altalt
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Posted - 2007.10.24 13:05:00 -
[302]
Originally by: Slime Andrew
Any news about open beta? How is work going? Anything? Anyone?
Ditto: I think Lingorm has been out of action for a bit. So, the testing has gone into limbo for the moment.
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Da Basher
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Posted - 2007.10.25 01:36:00 -
[303]
sign me up too...
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.10.25 08:56:00 -
[304]
We are running some formal tests at the moment.
We will soon be making the client available for public testing on one of the test servers.
Will update you with dates as I know them.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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Raquel Smith
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.25 09:10:00 -
[305]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
We are running some formal tests at the moment.
We will soon be making the client available for public testing on one of the test servers.
Will update you with dates as I know them.
Should we mac people hold off upgrading to leopard for testing?
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Creator of The Ruby API Library |
Ce Lau
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Posted - 2007.10.25 11:02:00 -
[306]
Good point! Although I'm not expecting Leopard to become available within the next few weeks ; hopefully the client will :-)
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Aeon Jonas
Caldari
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2007.10.25 11:16:00 -
[307]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
We are running some formal tests at the moment.
We will soon be making the client available for public testing on one of the test servers.
Will update you with dates as I know them.
This both Linux and OS X? Also will 10.5 be supported or will it work?
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Soy Black
Gallente
TalCorp Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.25 13:42:00 -
[308]
Originally by: Ce Lau
Good point! Although I'm not expecting Leopard to become available within the next few weeks ; hopefully the client will :-)
http://www.apple.com/
Tomorrow actually. :)
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Ce Lau
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Posted - 2007.10.25 15:13:00 -
[309]
:LOL: ermm, so it is :-D Vista, eat your heart out ;-P
On-topic: gimme the OS X Eve client and thou shall be rewarded!
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C4FF
Gallente
The Ninja Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.26 10:34:00 -
[310]
Still waiting guys. I know this is a big project but i cant wait to get playing!
C4FF.
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Pivalak
Happy hOur Mining and industry
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Posted - 2007.10.26 15:03:00 -
[311]
I'm looking forward to playing EVE on Linux with an official client for that platform.
So I wouldn't mind if a beta release were made available soon to play on Tranquility, even if that means living with a number of glitches for a while... :)
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Valdalen
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Posted - 2007.10.26 17:52:00 -
[312]
Edited by: Valdalen on 26/10/2007 17:52:26
WOOOO
Just got leaopard.. ITs not released "officially" for 6 more hours... but I preordered!
Time to do the clean sweep and reinstall!
Can't wait to try the beta on it!
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Triath Lon
Caldari
Keepers of Balance
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.10.26 19:46:00 -
[313]
Originally by: Valdalen
Edited by: Valdalen on 26/10/2007 17:52:26
WOOOO
Just got leaopard.. ITs not released "officially" for 6 more hours... but I preordered!
Time to do the clean sweep and reinstall!
Can't wait to try the beta on it!
I'm going right now to get my copy. I think i might have to wait in line for a couple of hours, but i'm not leaving without it.
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Jonathan Pryde
Caldari
Black Squadron
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Posted - 2007.10.27 07:27:00 -
[314]
Count me in for public testing.. I'd definitely try this out as a linux user and supporter
Jonathan Pryde
CEO, Black Squadron
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Mutter Rola
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Posted - 2007.10.27 22:12:00 -
[315]
I did install a linux partition today, and cedega ran an eve just fine - well, one installation of eve.
I have two accounts - when I fire up a second eve, the framerate on the second one drops below usable.
A question to those who are lucky beta testers: does transgaming port cover multi-accounts? I don't care about eye-candy, I do care if framerates will f***up missions and stuff ^^
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Narin Clain
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Posted - 2007.10.27 22:44:00 -
[316]
You can add me to the list of Apple users that are excited to try EVE on Leopard. Just installed it last night on my macbook pro. I'm looking forward to not needing an entire partition and separate boot just to play EVE.
Keep up the good work guys!
Cheers,
Narin Clain
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Lord XSiV
Amarr
Digital Research - Omega Protocol
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Posted - 2007.10.28 01:59:00 -
[317]
Ok. SO my quesiton is this - If they are making a 'mac' client is it going to be tied to the gui or run on the underlying OS? Reason being is that mac os is FreeBSD with a stupid gui so in theory any client made to run on mac should be able to run on a FreeBSD system.....
That would bring joy to me and be the absolute only benefit mac will have done for the world.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.28 03:46:00 -
[318]
Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 28/10/2007 03:51:50
Nevermind, just read the thread and found out this won't work on non-Intel Macs.
Not so good :(
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Soy Black
Gallente
TalCorp Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.28 05:50:00 -
[319]
Originally by: Lord XSiV
Ok. SO my quesiton is this - If they are making a 'mac' client is it going to be tied to the gui or run on the underlying OS? Reason being is that mac os is FreeBSD with a stupid gui so in theory any client made to run on mac should be able to run on a FreeBSD system.....
That would bring joy to me and be the absolute only benefit mac will have done for the world.
Not exactly true... it actually works the other way around. Something works for linux or BSD - can be recompiled TO the mac. This is from Wikipedia:
"Mac OS X is based on UNIX, most software packages written for BSD or Linux can be recompiled to run on it. Projects such as Fink, MacPorts and Pkgsrc provide pre-compiled or pre-formatted packages. Since version 10.3, Mac OS X has included X11.app, Apple's version of the X Window System graphical interface for Unix applications, as an optional component during installation."
And yes - OS X is BASED on Unix... however - the NUMEROUS changes to the code would really make what you are proposing not quite possible. Willing to be proven wrong however.
The good news though?
They are working on a linux client as well - there is documentation somewhere as to which versions will be supported.
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Solbright altaltaltalt
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Posted - 2007.10.28 10:24:00 -
[320]
Originally by: Lord XSiV
...in theory any client made to run on mac should be able to run on a FreeBSD system.....
Think about it a bit. Full games like Eve don't use the desktop GUI at all. What they need is 3D hardware rendering access. With which they then draw their own GUI. There is no getting round this driver requirement in any sensible manner.
To answer your question, if FreeBSD has the required 3D drivers available then you will have no problems running Eve via Wine. Wine's source auto-build system is superb! There is also prebuilt FreeBSD version of Wine.
Wine Downloads and Build/Install instructions
Have fun.
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BraveNewWorld
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.10.29 01:30:00 -
[321]
Count me in on this project!!! Eve is the only thing keeping a copy of windows on any of my systems. Oh yeah, also been in software testing and development for ~6 years...=)
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Kiara Ta'lei
Caldari
Sphinx Inc
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.10.29 11:04:00 -
[322]
Hearing that a Mac client was coming... plus the new graphics update, made me renew my EVE subscription. Feels good to be back and I hope I get to participate in the testing! :)
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Terrifiedkiller
Gallente
Copperhead Inc.
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.29 13:26:00 -
[323]
i so cant wait till the linux client comes out would love to test it
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Born Flyer
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Posted - 2007.10.30 00:16:00 -
[324]
Sign Me Up if EVE comes to the Mac then I can Stop using Windows!
Not to mention my Brother and Friends can play on their G5's!
Sweet!
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Marko Genesis
Amarr
The Green Machine
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Posted - 2007.10.30 09:31:00 -
[325]
Originally by: Born Flyer
Sign Me Up if EVE comes to the Mac then I can Stop using Windows!
Not to mention my Brother and Friends can play on their G5's!
Sweet!
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm quite sure EVE won't run on PPC's.
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Soy Black
Gallente
TalCorp Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.10.30 13:40:00 -
[326]
Originally by: Marko Genesis
Originally by: Born Flyer
Sign Me Up if EVE comes to the Mac then I can Stop using Windows!
Not to mention my Brother and Friends can play on their G5's!
Sweet!
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm quite sure EVE won't run on PPC's.
I believe you are correct. That's what I remember at least. :)
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Commander Kahn'Alzaor
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Posted - 2007.11.01 04:18:00 -
[327]
Finally got my Gutsy install up and running so bring on the public beta.
/me waits eagerly ...
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Todd Doughnut
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Posted - 2007.11.01 16:43:00 -
[328]
Great news about the beta, as a macpro user it will be great to erase my windows drive ....oops crysis demo just came out, bootcamp stays :D
Seriously the ability to use OSX while eve'ing will be such an amazing "upgrade". Almost as good as trinity. Better maybe. Oh man Ill be able to use ichat video to direct d'troops!
gotta start looking for that starwars holo effect for ichat!
Evil emperors only appear on teh holoz.
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Mal Plox
Keepers of Balance
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.11.01 18:10:00 -
[329]
So, Mac OS X support is going live next Tuesday. Anyone in closed beta has any updates for us?
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Lazlomass Arndt
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Posted - 2007.11.01 18:27:00 -
[330]
Sign me up for Beta Testing. I have two Intel Macs at home and a fleet of Macs at the office.
And, please, please, please keep us informed with anything, even speculation as to the beta release dates etc.
I've played eve under another Wine Client for OSX, Works however there are a few glitches. I'm concerned performance won't be that great. We might crash or get booted when there is too much going on. I guess we have to wait and see.
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Heypop
Gallente
Silver Star Federation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.03 13:49:00 -
[331]
Originally by: Mal Plox
So, Mac OS X support is going live next Tuesday. Anyone in closed beta has any updates for us?
Where did you read this? I must be blind, I am however very happy about this news.
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Prone Sultur
Gallente
Galactic Security Union
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Posted - 2007.11.03 14:09:00 -
[332]
He can't have officially read it. Wait for this day to end ;) *winkwink*
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Danzir Kasnov
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.03 17:37:00 -
[333]
The Linux & Mac launch on Tuesday was announced at fanfest.
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sweetcheese overlord
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Posted - 2007.11.03 17:52:00 -
[334]
Edited by: sweetcheese overlord on 03/11/2007 17:53:07
Hey I missed the Linux beta test sign up can I get in on it pretty please
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Bentula
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Posted - 2007.11.03 20:19:00 -
[335]
Originally by: sweetcheese overlord
Edited by: sweetcheese overlord on 03/11/2007 17:53:07
Hey I missed the Linux beta test sign up can I get in on it pretty please
You can get in on tuesday ok?
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2007.11.04 22:49:00 -
[336]
November 6 in Revelations 2.3.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
EVE Online, CCP Games |
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Ce Lau
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Posted - 2007.11.05 12:50:00 -
[337]
O_o
I do hope the public release will offer the following (OS X 10.5):
- waaaaaay better performance (currently getting 50-75% LESS fps under OS X compared to Bootcamp/XP)
- fix for sound bug
- People to shoot ;-P (ow, could that be because of Multiplicity?)
Seriously, the framerate is a serious issue, I don't even want to think about going into fleetbattles with this kind of fps (15-30 at most).
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Soy Black
Gallente
TalCorp Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.11.05 15:09:00 -
[338]
Originally by: Ce Lau
O_o
I do hope the public release will offer the following (OS X 10.5):
- waaaaaay better performance (currently getting 50-75% LESS fps under OS X compared to Bootcamp/XP)
- fix for sound bug
- People to shoot ;-P (ow, could that be because of Multiplicity?)
Seriously, the framerate is a serious issue, I don't even want to think about going into fleetbattles with this kind of fps (15-30 at most).
What type of mac are you using? If you are on a MacMini - I would completely understand. :P
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Ce Lau
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Posted - 2007.11.05 15:13:00 -
[339]
Hardly...
24" iMac Core 2 Duo 2Gb
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Soy Black
Gallente
TalCorp Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.11.05 15:55:00 -
[340]
Originally by: Ce Lau
Hardly...
24" iMac Core 2 Duo 2Gb
I understand your disappointment then!
Hoping for a good experience on my MacBookPro when it is live tomorrow... crossing my fingers.
Might it be a difference in the servers? Have you tried connecting to the test server while in windows via bootcamp to see if the performance is the same there? I have had great performance as well under bootcamp on the live servers - but I would love to have a reason to 100% rid myself of having windows on my mac - as that is the only reason I keep it around. BUT - if performance is unacceptable - like you are seeing...
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Darahk J'olonar
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.11.05 16:27:00 -
[341]
Edited by: Darahk J''olonar on 05/11/2007 16:31:57
I guess the question is will the new wrapped client be any better than the current Cedega+Windows client that folks are running now? I have been a long time subscriber of Cedega and if there is nothing notable I would like to just keep things as is so as to not bork my current installation.
Edit: Just read the official client notes and the Linux version does NOT support ATI yet Cider does. What is even more disturbing is that I can get EvE to play fine on an older laptop using Cedega and it has an ATI 9800 mobile chipset. Am I missing something here?
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Ce Lau
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Posted - 2007.11.05 18:25:00 -
[342]
Originally by: Soy Black
Originally by: Ce Lau
Hardly...
24" iMac Core 2 Duo 2Gb
I understand your disappointment then!
Hoping for a good experience on my MacBookPro when it is live tomorrow... crossing my fingers.
Might it be a difference in the servers? Have you tried connecting to the test server while in windows via bootcamp to see if the performance is the same there? I have had great performance as well under bootcamp on the live servers - but I would love to have a reason to 100% rid myself of having windows on my mac - as that is the only reason I keep it around. BUT - if performance is unacceptable - like you are seeing...
Good point! However unfortunately I was unable to patch the Bootcamp client to connect to Multiplicity so I'll just wait until tomorrow.
Like you said, if performance is unacceptable, Bootcamp stays (which would be a major no-no)
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Soy Black
Gallente
TalCorp Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.11.05 20:58:00 -
[343]
Yeah - just sucks cause I want that HD space back!!!!!
LOL - the only think keeping bootcamp on is EVE!!! :)
We'll see tomorrow!
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Ce Lau
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Posted - 2007.11.06 07:48:00 -
[344]
Edited by: Ce Lau on 06/11/2007 07:49:06
It's not even the discspace (that WIndows gobbles up at an alarming rate), but more the mere fact that M$ resides on my shiny Apple ;-)
Like you, I only keep Bootcamp around for Eve. Let's pray today will see the end of that as I will quite happily slam ERASE and end an era of Bootcamp ;-P
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Muscaat
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.11.06 11:15:00 -
[345]
Originally by: Darahk J'olonar
I guess the question is will the new wrapped client be any better than the current Cedega+Windows client that folks are running now? I have been a long time subscriber of Cedega and if there is nothing notable I would like to just keep things as is so as to not bork my current installation.
Just read the official client notes and the Linux version does NOT support ATI yet Cider does. What is even more disturbing is that I can get EvE to play fine on an older laptop using Cedega and it has an ATI 9800 mobile chipset. Am I missing something here?
Don't install the official client. From all reports it breaks any existing Cedega installations.
I run Eve in Wine - I couldn't get the official client to load or even give an error message, so it looks like I'll be sticking with that for the time being.
As for the ATi thing, I can only assume it's because ATi Linux drivers are in such a bad state and CCP/TransGaming don't want to have to deal with all the issues that ATi/AMD are ignoring.
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Darahk J'olonar
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.11.06 15:17:00 -
[346]
Originally by: Muscaat
Originally by: Darahk J'olonar
I guess the question is will the new wrapped client be any better than the current Cedega+Windows client that folks are running now? I have been a long time subscriber of Cedega and if there is nothing notable I would like to just keep things as is so as to not bork my current installation.
Just read the official client notes and the Linux version does NOT support ATI yet Cider does. What is even more disturbing is that I can get EvE to play fine on an older laptop using Cedega and it has an ATI 9800 mobile chipset. Am I missing something here?
Don't install the official client. From all reports it breaks any existing Cedega installations.
I run Eve in Wine - I couldn't get the official client to load or even give an error message, so it looks like I'll be sticking with that for the time being.
As for the ATi thing, I can only assume it's because ATi Linux drivers are in such a bad state and CCP/TransGaming don't want to have to deal with all the issues that ATi/AMD are ignoring.
Actually the new AMD/ATI drivers are fantastic and offer performance equal to or better than the nVidia binary blobs on high end hardware. As for the fubaring of current Cedega installs yes I was well aware of that and won't even bother trying. I am currently running Cedega+EvE without any hiccups same goes for Wine+EvE. Until I start reading about good experiences and painless installs and stable gameplay I am staying away from this wrapped mess.
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Ce Lau
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Posted - 2007.11.06 20:53:00 -
[347]
I took the liberty of starting a new topic on impressions and problems for the Mac client. Please feel free to post!
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