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Orikon Maru
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Posted - 2007.09.01 01:59:00 -
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I am an eve newbie. I started my trial about one month ago; I am now on a full account. I joined a corp that is very friendly to newbies of all stripes. We were of course almost immediatly wardeced :)
Now this is not a complaint about wardecs, nor is it a complaint about empires wars. Both are fully within the rules of the game. I was pleasantly surprised that instead of panic, wailing, and complaints about how unfair it all was, for the most part it was met with a "oh well, better start stockpiling ammo again." The more experienced players started to instruct the new players in wartime disciple (how not to be an easy target), how to outfit our frigs, etc. I have had the opportunity fly in several fleet opps now. We've had some losses, we've killed some ships. These are my observations so far:
1) If you are interested in PvP, start flying PvP now. Fly ships that you can easily replace. If you are a newbie this means frigs with T1 fittings. Even for someone running level 1 missions they are dirt cheap and easy to replace. Dont think that you need to wait for 3 million, 5 million, 10 million skill points before you can compete. If you can fly a frig and fit a warp disruptor you are usefull. If you can fit a microwarpdrive at the same time you are even more usefull. The experience you gain from practical combat is worth as much or more as the skill points you stockpile.
2) Get some friends. There is safety in numbers. Join an active corp that runs frequent opps. Watch the more experienced players, listen to your FC.
3) Fly smart, fear nothing. Dont think its all about how uber your ship is or the fact that you have tech 42 faction double officer secret squirel omega modules. Newbie ships can kill a battleship, you just need to fit the right, fly them hard, and bring enough of them.
4) Turn off the effects and audio. It keeps the lag monster away.
5) Have a little perspective. Its a game. Its also a pvp intensive game. Its almost certain at some point you will come into conflict with other players. Be ready to do your best to defend yourself. Trying to avoid conflict just lets them shoot you in the back.
Anyway, thats the view from here, one month in. So far this is coming together as a great game.
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Firkragg
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.01 02:14:00 -
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See this is what i keep trying to explain to my corp mate. He keeps going on about how he wants to max his skills and have a ton of isk so he can T2 fit his T2 ship so that he is able to go in and kill everyone. What he doesnt get though is that pvp is about 80% combat experience and 20% skillpoints and without the former hes just gonna end up with a rather expensive T2 wreck on his hands.
The big shame is that if he just grabbed a t1 crusier and dived in he would have great fun :)
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.09.01 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 01/09/2007 02:18:59
Originally by: Orikon Maru I am an eve newbie. I started my trial about one month ago; I am now on a full account. I joined a corp that is very friendly to newbies of all stripes. We were of course almost immediatly wardeced :)
Now this is not a complaint about wardecs, nor is it a complaint about empires wars. Both are fully within the rules of the game. I was pleasantly surprised that instead of panic, wailing, and complaints about how unfair it all was, for the most part it was met with a "oh well, better start stockpiling ammo again." The more experienced players started to instruct the new players in wartime disciple (how not to be an easy target), how to outfit our frigs, etc. I have had the opportunity fly in several fleet opps now. We've had some losses, we've killed some ships. These are my observations so far:
1) If you are interested in PvP, start flying PvP now. Fly ships that you can easily replace. If you are a newbie this means frigs with T1 fittings. Even for someone running level 1 missions they are dirt cheap and easy to replace. Dont think that you need to wait for 3 million, 5 million, 10 million skill points before you can compete. If you can fly a frig and fit a warp disruptor you are usefull. If you can fit a microwarpdrive at the same time you are even more usefull. The experience you gain from practical combat is worth as much or more as the skill points you stockpile.
2) Get some friends. There is safety in numbers. Join an active corp that runs frequent opps. Watch the more experienced players, listen to your FC.
3) Fly smart, fear nothing. Dont think its all about how uber your ship is or the fact that you have tech 42 faction double officer secret squirel omega modules. Newbie ships can kill a battleship, you just need to fit the right, fly them hard, and bring enough of them.
4) Turn off the effects and audio. It keeps the lag monster away.
5) Have a little perspective. Its a game. Its also a pvp intensive game. Its almost certain at some point you will come into conflict with other players. Be ready to do your best to defend yourself. Trying to avoid conflict just lets them shoot you in the back.
Anyway, thats the view from here, one month in. So far this is coming together as a great game.
"insert golf clap here" Well said. That and you have "the attitude" that's needed to play EVE. Have fun and blow **** up. ___________
Desolacer> Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
Zaqar> CCP |

DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.09.01 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Firkragg See this is what i keep trying to explain to my corp mate. He keeps going on about how he wants to max his skills and have a ton of isk so he can T2 fit his T2 ship so that he is able to go in and kill everyone. What he doesnt get though is that pvp is about 80% combat experience and 20% skillpoints and without the former hes just gonna end up with a rather expensive T2 wreck on his hands.
The big shame is that if he just grabbed a t1 crusier and dived in he would have great fun :)
Well he'll learn, quite well. ___________
Desolacer> Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
Zaqar> CCP |

Golden Helmet
Caldari No way I'm going to Deep Core Mining
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Posted - 2007.09.01 03:41:00 -
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Finally, a smart newbie with a clue on how to play Eve!
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Kadreal
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Posted - 2007.09.01 04:10:00 -
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I prefer to keep audio on. It helps alert me to possible shootings incase they are behind me or if I'm not paying attention to the screen too much.
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Moridin920
Gallente Dust Echoes FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.01 05:36:00 -
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You, sir, are officially not a n00b or noob. You are a newbie, or rookie (much less offensive). Anyone who calls you n00b in a derogatory way just for being new to the game is officially a rear end in a top hat.
It's really refreshing to see people like you, who actually listen to what veterans say without ignoring 95% of it and proceeding to then complain about the tragedies that result.
Have fun and good luck in Eve! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience our piracy may have caused you, but, we are pirates and, sadly, this is our way." |

Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.01 05:38:00 -
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I wish i could get it through my new players skulls to stop flying that shiny battleship into lowsec/pvp when they have no chance in hell of surviving
I keep telling them, grab a frig, you will do way better and when you lose it you wont miss it, but nooooooooo Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve-Forums:
Quote: Smacking my own alt in a nerf-thread while drunk, he was irritating a Hauler full of tech II n00bs, Oops.
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Galan Amarias
Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.01 05:46:00 -
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Bravo.
The answer to empire ganking |

Redbad
Minmatar Tempered Steel Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.01 07:34:00 -
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Quote: You can loose every battle, but still win the war, if it wasn't worth the effort of your enemy.
Quote: Combat in EVE is about economics. Calculate you chance to take more with as little as possible.
Welcome to the game, you are actually playing it!
RB
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.09.01 07:44:00 -
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Sadly the majority of Eve players experience PvP in a different way 
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
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Twilight Interloper
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Posted - 2007.09.01 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Sadly the majority of Eve players experience PvP in a different way 
HA!!
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Lord MuffloN
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.09.01 09:12:00 -
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Welcome to EVE, and since your already on the dark side we don't need to lure you over, fly rough, unsafe and have fun
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Agent 77
Cryptic Technologies Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.09.01 09:43:00 -
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Quote: Sadly the majority of Eve players experience PvP in a different way
LOL 
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MonwrathDisortium
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.09.01 09:58:00 -
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well done, you get it and will go far.
this should be a sticky :)
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Blood Corsair's The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.09.01 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Galan Amarias Bravo.
X2. 
[Video]Blood Corsairs - Day One |

Chococat
Applied Eugenics Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.01 11:13:00 -
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The force is strong in this one
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Arial Stargazer
The Evil Pirates
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Posted - 2007.09.01 11:38:00 -
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Gotta love your corps attitude to war too. Most Empire corps run and hide at the mere mention of it. Post with your main so we can give your corp it's props/War Dec.
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Karrade Krise
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Posted - 2007.09.01 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Sadly the majority of Eve players experience PvP in a different way 
LOL!!!!!!!!!! haha, that's great :D Funniest thing I've ever seen/heard.
Welcome to EVE, kill stuff and have fun 
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Grunanca
Fusion Mercenaries Mercenary Services
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Posted - 2007.09.01 12:10:00 -
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Wont be surprised to see you in a command ship in 2 years, you got the spirit
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Isotobe
Caldari Laughing Leprechauns Corporation
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Posted - 2007.09.01 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Orikon Maru I am an eve newbie. I started my trial about one month ago; I am now on a full account. I joined a corp that is very friendly to newbies of all stripes. We were of course almost immediatly wardeced :)
Now this is not a complaint about wardecs, nor is it a complaint about empires wars. Both are fully within the rules of the game. I was pleasantly surprised that instead of panic, wailing, and complaints about how unfair it all was, for the most part it was met with a "oh well, better start stockpiling ammo again." The more experienced players started to instruct the new players in wartime disciple (how not to be an easy target), how to outfit our frigs, etc. I have had the opportunity fly in several fleet opps now. We've had some losses, we've killed some ships. These are my observations so far:
1) If you are interested in PvP, start flying PvP now. Fly ships that you can easily replace. If you are a newbie this means frigs with T1 fittings. Even for someone running level 1 missions they are dirt cheap and easy to replace. Dont think that you need to wait for 3 million, 5 million, 10 million skill points before you can compete. If you can fly a frig and fit a warp disruptor you are usefull. If you can fit a microwarpdrive at the same time you are even more usefull. The experience you gain from practical combat is worth as much or more as the skill points you stockpile.
2) Get some friends. There is safety in numbers. Join an active corp that runs frequent opps. Watch the more experienced players, listen to your FC.
3) Fly smart, fear nothing. Dont think its all about how uber your ship is or the fact that you have tech 42 faction double officer secret squirel omega modules. Newbie ships can kill a battleship, you just need to fit the right, fly them hard, and bring enough of them.
4) Turn off the effects and audio. It keeps the lag monster away.
5) Have a little perspective. Its a game. Its also a pvp intensive game. Its almost certain at some point you will come into conflict with other players. Be ready to do your best to defend yourself. Trying to avoid conflict just lets them shoot you in the back.
Anyway, thats the view from here, one month in. So far this is coming together as a great game.
Welcome to EVE, give us a shout when you feel upto 0.0 and I'm sure we can find you a good place to call home in EVE.
Regards,
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MITSUK0
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Posted - 2007.09.01 14:14:00 -
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Huzzah!
I love it when someone dives in and doesnt listen to all the "oh you will die and that is bad!" ******s in the noob corp channels.
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Hanshin Kool
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2007.09.01 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Hanshin Kool on 01/09/2007 19:11:47
Originally by: MITSUK0 Huzzah!
I love it when someone dives in and doesnt listen to all the "oh you will die and that is bad!" ******s in the noob corp channels.
That's why I like the Royal Amarr Institute. Not all that whining in the corp channel...
Actually...not a lot of anything in the corp channel....
Hello? Hello? :)
To the op: Good job. If my 'net connection was more stable I'd be right out there too. Le sigh.
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.01 19:20:00 -
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Yaaarrrrrr.....Wardec's are fine, free high sec pew. The only way to truly grasp the pew is to go outlaw and pirate.
Come to the dark side my son.
recruitment thread Join channel Hells Angels Inc
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4ron
Gallente Dark Star LTD Dogs of War.
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Posted - 2007.09.01 19:45:00 -
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big Kudos to you dude, have fun playing EvE :)
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Otto Theftis
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Posted - 2007.09.01 20:29:00 -
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You sir, have the right attitude. Kudo's for hitting the hard part of the eve learning curse.
With that attitude, I sense you being an FC someday.  |

Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.09.01 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Arial Stargazer
Gotta love your corps attitude to war too. Most Empire corps run and hide at the mere mention of it. Post with your main so we can give your corp it's props/War Dec.
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i do think that is his main, as he is in ivy league and they are in 2 wars 
fun fun, really must do more pvp myself.
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wictro
FinFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.02 01:00:00 -
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this is a fine example of attitude, and eve forum post.
compare the reaction of commune:
this thread
vs.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=582805
same people, kinda same topic.
sometimes eve makes you mad that you were born. suck it up, and keep on kicking!
all the best, -wic
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.09.02 01:16:00 -
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And from the other side of the spectrum... everyone remember Liz Kali? 
Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
Originally by: TheDagda *click* For the love of the jovians stops necroing
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wictro
FinFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.02 01:23:00 -
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i'll never forget liz :)
that was the right attitude tough, maybe a tad too large mouth :D
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